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Saturday, August 11, 2012

JR Book?


Scott,
Do you think we'll ever get a tell-all book from someone like Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler, or any other long-term WWE loyalists?  We get plenty of "former writers" coming out with info, but guys like JR and King have been around for a LOT of backstage stuff and would probably represent the best "tell-all" possibility.  Your thoughts?

No, they know where their bread is buttered and we won't get anything juicier than JR's ultra-diplomatic "aw shucks" blog postings from him or Lawler.  Now someone like Warrior, who was around it all and burned all his bridges, would likely have been the best bet for that sort of thing.  

But more importantly, what does any of this have to do with AW getting fired?  

119 comments:

  1. What about Michael Hayes? He has been in just about every promotion and has been behind the scenes forever at the this point in WWE. 

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  2. My thoughts exactly Scott.

    JR Book?!

    Fuck that, A.W. GOT FIRED YO!
    Thats the real newz!

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  3. You called it Scott after the Kobe comment. Which is so stupid because I don't even think most people noticed or cared. I rewand it twice and still never actually heard him say it. Anyway AW didn't take the firing lying down. Here's his twitter response. Did he burn some bridges?


    “AWPromotions is no more ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for your support and hate, it’s been a great run. Now I get to do me which isn’t PG!”

    “@TitusONeilWWE & @DarrenYoungWWE thank you for allowing me to speak on your behalf. You guys are the best and I’m glad to call u my friends!”

    “I’ve offended the wrong people that taught me how to have ATTITUDE It was the #WWE that made me bold and now it has turned it’s back on me”

    “Let this be a lesson to up and coming talent in the WWE don’t try and be great like the Rock or Stone Cold. WWE isn’t the same…”

    “Just be normal shut up and be a yes man so you can collect your check and feel like your special. #SELLOUTS!!”

    “I remember a time when the WWE didn’t care about breaking the mold but now everyone is so afraid of their own shadow. #RemeberTheFans”

    “Thanks to the fans who showed me support over the whole Kobe thing and to those I upset I apologize again. Remember It’s entertainment folks”

    “I really do hope Linda wins that election because If not then all of this BS has been for nothing. #GoLinda!!”

    “Thank you WWE for creating me and then killing me because I only portrayed what I grew up watching… The #WWE!!”

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  4. Al Wilson got fired? Didn't know he was still around...

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  5.  Yah, I didn't catch it (or Cole's apology) when I watched live.

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  6. The two books I'd really like to read that don't exist yet are Undertaker and Vince himself. Undertaker would have a lot of insight into the politics over the years because he was kind of both above it and outside of it, and it'd be interesting to hear how his "locker room leader" status coalesced and to hear a little about his personal life behind the gimmick. Vince is a no-brainer, although I'd want him to have it split into two books, Clinton-memoir style, so he could go into a lot of detail (remembering how much ground Flair's book covered in a short book, he glossed over a LOT.) But as far as a "tell-all" that had insight into the booking and covered a long time period, maybe Kevin Dunn or Kerwin Silfies? They've been around forever and would know a lot about the inner workings of the company, plus it'd be interesting to get some insight into the technical end of producing WWE.

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  7. I'm a huge fan of Wrestling books, but the thing I cannot stand is ghost writing in my autobiographies. I'm reading William Shatner's autobiography right now and it's pretty good, and you can tell a lot of his own words went into it - but also that he had help.

    I don't think it's a secret I'm a hardcore mark for Mick Foley, and have read Have A Nice Day, Foley is Good, Countdown to Lockdown, and his two novels, Scooter and Tietem Brown (which is not too bad, to be honest). Anyway, those books are very obviously written almost exclusively by Foley, for better or for worse, trips to tangent land and all. It's cool to read his first book over and over again as you get older because you pick up on more stuff. It reveals the little tid-bit that Foley once broke Johnny Ace's arm in Japan, and I had no idea who that was until my most recent re-read.

    Compared to The Rock's book, which was so obviously ghost written it hurt. Not to mention it was written IN CHARACTER for large chunks of the book. This was very annoying. 

    Another thing I hate is being "worked" in a book. I think Moolah or Mae Young's book said from the start she was going to work the reader, thus making the entire thing a pointless promo.

    For a book by JR, I dunno. I think he cares about the business too much to dish, and despite being humiliated on national television on multiple occasions, wants to protect the business. Plus, as much as I am a fan of JR, and all he's been through, I don't know if I care as much about him as I do what he thinks about others. I worry that book, to succeed, would need to essentially be a glorified shit / hit list of people he's met, liked, and hated.

    Plus, to be really interesting, he'd have to dive into how he prepares to call a match, which involves going over specific spots that could happen in the match, and so on, and I worry that'd expose the business.

    I hear Will Reagel's book is pretty good, as are Jericho's two tomes. Thoughts?

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  8. Twitter: Letting people go through the emotions of a breakup in a terribly public way.

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  9. I agree about the JR blog posts, they are annoyingly diplomatic. 

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  10.  It'd be interesting to hear him come up with new and exciting reasons for why a black wrestler rubbed him the wrong way.

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  11.  I'd stand by Jericho's books. The first one is very very good, the second one is just as good during the wrestling portions.  The Fozzy parts dragged quite a bit for me, but they weren't bad or anything.
    haven't read Regal's book.  I'd love to, though, he's bound to have a pretty interesting perspective and seems like a good enough dude.

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  12. I recently finished both of Jericho's books. The first one (A Lion's Tale) is incredible, definitely in my top 3 wrestling bios. Pick that one up without question. Undisputed.. not so much. It's basically a lot of Fozzy-talk and restrained whining about his early WWF tenure. There is a great chapter in there about Benoit, though. I'd rate that one a 5/10 in general. It's not bad, but it's hardly essential reading when there's so much better stuff out there.

    Kind of interested to read that Regal book now, though..

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  13. JR doesn't really pull any punches on those round table shows so I don't think it would be a problem.

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  14. One person who I think would have a good tell-all book is Jeff Jarrett.He went back and forth between WWF and WCW between 94-2001 and was there for the NWO, Austin era and WCW downfall era. He also started TNA and could talk about the issues there.
    He also knows that he will never be back in the WWE so he may not care who he badmouths there.

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  15. Its no secret Flair4thegold is a Flair mark
    Its no secret MagnumDA is a Kevin Nash fan
    Its no secret Drunk Murphy loves ROH and indy wrestling as a whole.

    I have no clue who you are.

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  16. I also never got the impression that Jarrett bullshits a lot, at least in comparison to other wrestlers. 

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  17. Is he known that way?

    I know he dropped an N bomb on Mark Henry, or someone, a few years ago that rankled a few, but I always thought that was just him thinking he was "cool" enough to get away with it, rather than intending it as a slur.

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  18. Yeah, it was a "What's up my nigga?"

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  19. Vince's book would be like Hogan's, so full of shit that it wouldn't be enjoyable.

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  20. Your best bet for an awesome book will be Jim Cornette.  He's been everywhere, done everything, and doesn't give a shit cause he's torched every bridge.

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  21. I thought it was "I'm more of a nigger than you are!" which, while misguided, is basically him just saying he thinks he's cooler than Henry. 

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  22. He wrestled in Confederate flag pants

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  23. Only when he's cutting a promo

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  24.  Yeah I change my vote. Heyman would be good too but then you still get the whole "full of shit" problem.

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  25. Best existing wrestler memoirs that I have read (which is nowhere near all of them by any means): 1. Have a Nice Day, 2. A Lion's Tale 3. Hitman: My blah blah blah 4. Foley is Good 5. Undisputed when he's talking about wrestling

    Worst by the same standards: 1. Heartbreak & Triumph (all ghostwritten dreck and basically just traces the nuts & bolts of his career with very little insight beyond his big Mea Culpa on Montreal 2. To Be The Man (not that bad, really, but he covers way too much ground with way too broad of a stroke) 3. Controversy Creates Cash (an entertaining read, actually, but he's so full of his own slimy shit that it will make your head throb 4. Undisputed when he's blathering on about his stupid band that no one listens to 5. Hardcore Diaries (Mick being Mick is great but he just lopes around and around and never gets to the point, plus he should just come out & admit he just wanted to fuck Melina).

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  26. This was exactly my understanding.

    Inappropriate perhaps, but not malicious.

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  27. I very much doubt that JR, or anyone who was ever really in the loop with Vince will ever write a book.  He seems to take good enough care of his generals that they stay in line.

    Bret's book was good, although on each re-read I'm a little more disappointed in just how huge a mark he was for himself, and for wrestling on the whole.  Foley's first two were good, until his tangent against the PTC or whatever at the end of the second, that lost me a little bit.

    I haven't read a lot of others..  I've read Dynamite's book and I remember blowing through it in one sitting so it must have held my attention, although I don't remember much of it now, it's been a while.  And Sex, Lies, and Headlocks was good but isn't well regarded for accuracy.  I think that's all I've read.

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  28. Maybe it's just me, but I've always gotten the feeling that Bischoff actually believes his own hype and bull, whereas Heyman just revels in being a bullshitter and tries to see how much he can get away with. Almost like the audience is in on the joke with Heyman.

    I remember seeing a clip where Heyman claimed that his mother was a Holocaust survivor, and I honestly couldn't tell if he was telling the truth or just messing with the host.

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  29. "In the beginning, God created 'Wrasslin'. Now wrasslin' was long and boring, darkness and smoke were over the ring, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the arenas.

    Then God said 'Let us make Promoters in my image', so God created Vince McMahon, far surpassing God's own brilliance and image.

    And Vince said 'Let there be Sports Entertainment', and there was Hulkamania. Vince saw that the light was good, and he separated the sports-entertainers from the two-bit, podunk, hillbilly promoters. Vince called the light 'Raw' and the dark 'Nitro'. And there was 'WrestleMania' and there was 'Livewire'.

    And on the seventh day, Vince created John Cena."

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  30.  I actually think both Jericho books are great. Even though the second one goes into things other than wrestling I don't think it takes away from the entertainment of the book. Jericho's books are the closest one's to Foley's books in quality.

    Jericho isn't afraid to point out people that didn't like him. Including HHH. He's diplomatic about it but at least he's honest. I feel bad for Jericho that his none wrestling career never took off because I actually think he has some comedic talent. His one scene in the terrible movie McGruber was pretty hilarious.

    I read Reagel's book years ago. My buddy and I used to read pretty much every wrestling book that came out. Dynamite Kid's book is really good as well. But I honestly can't remember what made Reagel's book so good. I just remember liking it. I should go back and read that again.

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  31.  I was under the impression he'd also gotten on the bad side of more than a few black wrestlers over the years, I remember he and Lashley not getting along, ferinstance.

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  32.  Took the words out of my mouth.  It's a shame, he could write a HELL of a book.

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  33. I hadn't heard that, but could be true I guess.

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  34. Hulk Hogan's book is the worst one I've ever read.

    I tend to read HBK's book and Bret Hart book together and get an idea of the bullshit they were on.

    Side note: If you haven't read it, Dynamite Kid's book is worth checking out.

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  35. IMO - He gets bitchy sometimes when people ask him questions or gives an opinion he doesn't like.

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  36. I hav a feeling it would start off, "In the beginning Vince created SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT..."

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  37. I disagree.  I was on Twitter (hooray) when the comment was made and A LOT of people noticed.  It even showed up on TMZ.

    And honestly, I think AW really misses the point.  He compares his actions to that of Rock and Austin and to what he grew up watching.  Yes, the Attitude Era had A LOT of shocking stuff on it, but it's also important to note that those shocking moments were scripted and preplanned.  And they were also within the boundaries of what was going on at the time.  

    And even pros like Rock and Austin have acclimated to the new surroundings.  Notice Austin no longer flips the bird when he does his 4 turnbuckles pose?  And while the Rock pushed the envelope during his run with Cena, he was still no where near the stuff he had done during the Attitude Era.  And both of those guys would have been smart enough to know that at AW's level, it would be inappropriate to make a rape joke during the PG era.

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  38. I really like To Be the Man.  Funny stories and I don't feel like there was much BS.  Bischoff's book is a weird blend of delusion and some really good insight.  All his stuff about making Nitro the opposite of Raw in the beginning was right on.

    Foley should have waited after Have a Nice Day to write another wrestling book.  Foley is Good covers a tiny portion of his career and goes off on tangents and lists and then the whole section defending the business.  Hardcore Diaries, again covers too little.  Never read Countdown to Lockdown, but I imagine it suffers the same problem.  Had he combined all those books into one, it woulda been up the with Have a Nice Day.

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  39. Cornette has a book, sort of.    "The Midnight Express & Jim Cornette 25th Anniversary Scrapbook".  

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  40. I think JR has an interesting book in him, but I also don't think he'd ever write it until he decided to retire for good from the WWE.  And I don't see that happening for a long time.  The guy obviously loves pro wrestling.  

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  41. I think Cornette is sooo partisan the same could be said of his book.

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  42. I don't know. Big Show made a Kobe joke in '03 during a battle rap with Cena. To me, that was so close to the actual even that should be more controversial regardless of target audience. Plus, they let Heyman make very thinly veiled pedophile jokes about Lawler in '97 during that PG era.

    Jericho's flag stomping also seems like a worse offense since he broke the law in the process...but he's still around.

    I'm wondering if AW's reaction behind the scenes was similar to his twitter reaction and that's what got him canned. Seems like if one showed some contrition and took a suspension or something as punishment he'd still be around...unless they were already looking for an excuse to can the guy.

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  43. Seriously. That shit's in writing. Much more difficult to let time heal the wounds if you want to come back.

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  44. I had read that was just the tip of the iceberg though. Although this was in the dirtsheets so grain of salt, etc.

    Bill Watts is the most notorious wrestling racist, correct?

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  45. Anyone else glance at this and assume the question was about Lawler or JR booking the shows? I think that's an idea that has some potential. We saw how well Hayes did with SD! a few years ago. I think the best bookers might be guys with TONS of experience, but are so old that they can no longer credibly book themselves into the show.

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  46. 1997. 2003.

    That was a decade ago or more. This is 2012. Tracy fucking Morgan has to apologize for stuff he says on stage or get fired.

    A.W. is no Tracy Fucking Morgan.

    They can put someone else in that gimmick, call him A.W. and by October no one would be the wiser so why risk it?

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  47. Pure Dynamite is awesome and sad at the same time, very much like Dynamite himself.

    I wouldn't take Hogan's work of fiction if it was handed to me for free.

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  48. Wait, I like Kevin Nash?

    The purpose of that Nash thread was for me to be able to tear that big, clumsy bastard down and say the things that many people believe, but won't say themselves.

    Same goes for AW.

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  49. An honest and revealing book by Vince could sell millions of copies I think. Hell even if Vince gave someone complete access to him, the family and most of the staff it could be incredible (best case scenario: Walter Isaacson, his shit rules).

    Undertaker would be interesting only if he explains that "wrestler's court" stuff that apparently used to happen back in the 90's. That story (I think Foley talked about it initially?) was the douchiest thing I've ever heard about the business.

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  50. Yeah jerichos book was really good.

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  51. I don't think it would be a very good idea. I'm not at all a fan of the Memphis style of wrestling, and while JR would go back to treating wrestling like a sport again, his stint as booker in WCW in the early 90s was boring as hell and generally awful.

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  52. Ding ding.

    I've made my feelings known on this whole matter.

    http://www.rspwfaq.net/2012/08/smackdown-august-10-2012.html#comment-616237606

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  53. Even just the way he words things makes you want to punch him in the face. "Will Stone Cold Steve Austin show up in the WWE again in the future? If I were a betting man, I'd say likely so. However certain people who appear to have gone into business for themselves would suggest otherwise. One thing is for sure, the Texas Rattlesnake has a long road ahead of him in terms of physical fitness and getting back in shape blah blah bluuuurughhghghg STFU JR!!!

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  54. You blew it, brother, when you said the words "Honest" and "Revealing".

    I heard and read enough about McMahon from his infamous Playboy Interview.

    Trust me, it's fucked. Something about having a stepfather that would beat him with a pipe wrench any time young Vince would speak up, and then they'd sit down together and laugh while watching The Jackie Gleason Show.

    Then there's this nugget, the "mother" of all nuggets...

    PLAYBOY: Eventually, you escaped from your stepfather.
    MCMAHON:
    By the time I was 14 I was on my own. I was pretty much a man then.
    Physically at least. In other ways I'm still becoming a man.
    PLAYBOY: Was the abuse all physical, or was there sexual abuse, too?
    MCMAHON: That's not anything I would like to embellish. Just because it was weird.
    PLAYBOY: Did it come from the same man?
    MCMAHON: No. It wasn't...it wasn't from a male.

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  55. "Bill Watts is the most notorious wrestling racist, correct?"

    Is that accurate?  He booked Ron Simmons to be the first ever black WHC and also ran mid-south which had JYD as its top face for years.

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  56.  That and his "You Shoot" (3.5 hrs), his "Guest Booker" (3 hrs) and "TImeline WWF 1997" (3 hrs) is better than reading a book.  Search that out if you are a Corney fan.

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  57. LOL I know, I found that out after reading it.

    Guilty of kneejerk this time.

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  58.  And had Ernie Ladd as his booker. There was some big stink over his comments that a white business owner should have the right to refuse whoever he wanted in his restaurant, which got back to Hank Aaron at Turner and caused a kerfuffle.

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  59. There were pedophile jokes about Lawler as late as 2006. I swear I remember Joey Styles saying something along the lines of "shouldn't you be at the senior prom right now Jerry?"

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  60.  I hated Hardcore Diaries. It's just all over the place, and while I hate to say it, I really didn't care all that much about Funk/Dreamer in the first place. Had they done it Mick's way it would have been entertaining but it just wasn't the main event brilliant idea he thought he was. Many times he's complaining about how it's being booked and I'm thinking "Tommy Dreamer hasn't been relevant since 2000, and never in WWE, and Funk is like 60 years old". The Melina stuff was just weird. He swears he didn't want to fuck her (and it's Melina, I'm sure he if he wanted to he could make it happen) but if he didn't it's just odd - again, the person he sees so much in just isn't the big deal he thinks they are.

    I liked Flair's book but it made me hate him. Hearing about the territory system and the days of the NWA Champion was really interesting to me. It was a great read up he got to the mid 90's. Then it's all about how stupid WCW was for pushing the nWo and not the Horsemen and how everyone associated with WWE is the best at everything. Arrogance and ass-kissing, that's Flair's book in a nutshell. 

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  61. flair4dagold, showing us why he's the 16-Time World Champion.

    WHOOOO!

    I could spend all day watching this stuff, but then I wouldn't get SHIT done, lol.

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  62.  It happened very recently: 1000 RAW they list how old Kardashian, Katy Perry, and Miley were when RAW debuted... Cole looks at the King and says "And Jerry the King Lawler was in his prime."

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  63. Bill's son could throw a hell of a dropkick.

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  64. So, basically, we can assume Vince thinks the Lawler pedo jokes are funny but the Kobe jokes aren't. Therefore, AW is firing, Lawler jokes continue.

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  65. Ah, that must be what I remember reading.

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  66. OMG. Ive said this like a thousand times.

    Obviously, Im still midcard.

    Also would like to add his original RF shoot from 2001 when he was still with the WWF (kinda) in OVW.

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  67. OMG to be the Man has to be the second worst wrestling book ever.

    1st goes to Hulk hogans book. Terrible.

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  68. I want a New Jack book.

    Even though I have the majority of his shoot tapes.

    Speaking of shoots, i love how shoot interviews are bascially career retrospectives from guys that arent in the WWE fold with a lil "burning bridge" aspesct to them rather than something like New Jacks 2004 shoot.

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  69. 2006 wasn't the PG Era. The company is doing everything it can to promote its company in a favorable mainstream light after the SI steroid/Benoit incidents. When somebody does something on TV that has talking heads on ESPN thinking the WWE is still that kind of sex-and-filth company that everyone thought it was five years ago, the kind of light that had the company losing sponsors left and right, that person's head will roll.

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  70. The Rock's book was fucking horrible. Not only was it blatantly ghostwritten, but it even skipped over stuff that would've seemed important ("Rock" talks about his first WM match and DOESN'T bring up his father joining him in the ring? The fuck?). Foley's experience with a ghostwriter in his second book def. shed some light on the process.

    Only good use for the Rock's shitty book was using it as an oversized weapon in WWF No Mercy.

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  71. JR is the LAST person who would ever want to write a tell-all book. You can feel his annoyance every time he answers a question on his blog asking about some kind of backstage politicking and shenanigans. 

    Not surprised about AW. 
    "The fact of the matter is," as HHH would say, is that WWE has worked hard on cultivating a positive image over the last few years, and anything that has talking heads on ESPN ripping WWE for this sort of thing, is the type of thing that can really hurt them. The last thing they want is for people to think it's still "THAT kind of company", where they think of blood, language, and misogyny that really hurt the company during the firestorm of bad press they endured in 2006-2007 with the SI steroid report and the Benoit murder-suicide. Rape jokes is not exactly the thing they'd want to be associated with, and for good reason. It may not bother the IWC demographic but that's not the audience the company is concerned about.

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  72. You shot who in the what now?

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  73. Bonzai, have a belt, brother. You win.

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  74. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I really want to read Diana Hart's book. If it is as absurd as Bret Hart says it is, I could use a good laugh.

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  75. I really felt bad reading about Jericho's first title win, as he kept hearing different things as to who was going to be the first Undisputed Champ. Because of that he didn't have his dad and wife come to the show because he didn't want them to come to the show if he wasn't going to win the big one. 

    Then he gets locked out his hotel room.

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  76. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5582181&page=1

    This guy copied and pasted the text onto a forum. Enjoy.

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  77.  Holy fuck it's Cody Webster. Quick, someone go dig up Eric Katz & Eliot Smilowitz.

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  78.  I enjoyed reading To Be The Man but it was just too insubstantial for a career like Flair's. Granted, it would have been huge if he'd have gone into explicit detail the way Foley had, and Flair probably doesn't remember as much. But for a lot of the territory days and his earliest days in JCP/NWA/WCW, he just kind of flies through the years and mainly tells a lot of drinking stories. I didn't hate reading it but it left me wanting so much more, which is almost worse.

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  79. I could never see JR writing a tell-all book. This guy went on one of those Legends of Wrestling roundtables and talked about how Ed Ferrera's mocking of him hurt him and his family yet is degraded on a bi-monthly basis by Vince McMahon pretty much the same way. As much I respect Jim Ross for what he's done in wrestling, the dude's got no balls.

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  80. What about Chyna's book? I haven't read it but what I've heard is that it's the tome all bad biographies should be ranked against.

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  81. ..actually Hogan's book WAS given to me for free. I could only stomach it for short periods of time. He had a chpter on how long it took him to shave his chest..


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    ..I kid you not.

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  82. One thing I loved about Jericho's second book was his relationship with The Rock. I didn't think that the two were really on good terms at the beginning of Chris' WWE career but it was cool reading of how Rock gave him a bit of a pep talk when he felt was failing and how he believed in him being talented enough to make it work.

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  83. Depending on what side of the face you hit him would he feel it?

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  84. He's not cooler than 2011 Mark Henry.

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  85. I have to agree with Flair on the Horsemen bit I mean, Mongo McMichael could have led wrestling to its next golden age!

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  86. Don't forget the gay jokes JR used to make about Pat Patterson.

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  87. Tito Santana said in his book that Dick Murdock got pissed at him and showed him his KKK membership card.

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  88. Wow, no mentions whatsoever for Gary Michael Cappetta and Terry Funk's awesome books, where's the love guys?

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  89. I read the anal rape excerpt online..  She was definitely going for shock value.

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  90. Someone made a .doc file out of her book a few years ago. I still have it archived somewhere. For as much shit as she got for writing it, Bret's book confirmed at least a third of it.

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  91. Were you actually expecting "War & Peace" or something? Flair's book was a WWE production. It wasn't going to be anything close to a tell-all.

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  92. Chyna's book probably went to the discount bin faster than any other WWE book ever. Total dreck.

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  93. Were you just itching to type that word? At least censor it.

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  94. Since it was mentioned, when is Warrior's book coming out anyway? I heard it was supposed to be out last year but now it looks like it's gone through more delays than the Red Dawn remake.

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  95. I remember when fans would get on him for hyping the "Hoss" types he goes for (if he got the book, I would imagine a WWE filled entirely with ex-football players doing clotheslines and power moves), and he quit his blog as a result. He also did a lot of criticizing of WCW's guys for being weak and injury-prone.

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  96. Yeah, I remember a bullshit story in it about how he fought TWENTY KIDS AT ONCE, and how he basically called up Pat Patterson for a solo show of his in-ring stuff, and when told to "work Heel" he just MAGICALLY felt home and at ease with the process. Reading that even in my early 20s I was like "yeah, fucking right".

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  97. It's weird- I actually felt Jericho's first book was rather mediocre. I literally forgot every single thing in it, to the point where I read his second and was like "wait, what happened to his mother?". His second, while full of stuff about his band (and he warns about that, and even outlines it in his chapters which have stuff to do with wrestling), was extremely fascinating character stuff, especially about how his first WWF run was kind of fucked, and the mental shit he had to deal with for Chris Benoit's murder/suicide.

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  98. I think an "honest" Vince book would be the greatest one ever, but the problem is, Vince doesn't strike me as a guy who even knows what the truth is anymore- much like Eric Cartman in that one "South Park" episode, he is so full of shit that the things he WISHES were true quickly become the "facts", and anything else is just BULLSHIT AND LIES, DAMMIT!

    It's like... he's not even really LYING, he's just genuinely sure that he's exactly 100% right.

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  99. I do remember finding the portion of the book where Rock was playing football in Canada interesting.

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  100.  You're right. That should read "I thought it was "I'm more of a nigger than you are!" which, while
    misguided, is basically him just saying he thinks he's cooler than
    H***y."

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  101. Yeah I read that too...some definite wtf stuff

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  102. The north korea story in flairs book is pretty epic though.

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  103. And they just recently inducted a convicted rapist into their Hall of Fame.

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  104. You're wrong.

    Someone would definitely notice if Sheamus started coming out with PTP and started calling himself A.W.

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  105. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

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  106. Why? He's quoting someone else.

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  107. Decent people have the decency to censor that word.

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  108. I look at what Vince says (or would write) about the WWE in the context of a quote from "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" - "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."

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  109. I just want to know who blew up his limo and what happended to the fbi agent?

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  110. Whens your tell all book coming out?

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