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Friday, April 26, 2013

Shane Douglas on the new Foley DVD


> So I was just watching For All Mankind when I saw that Shane Douglas appears as a talking head early in the doc. It's obviously a new video, too, shot for the documentary. Is this his first appearance on a WWE release aside from old footage?

Yup, dude's been basically blacklisted since he tried to jump with the Radicalz and then "changed his mind."  I'm pretty surprised actually.

48 comments:

  1. I bet he regrets that decision. Would have been a good mouth piece for them.

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  2. Douglas was gonna leave then changed his mind??? I thought he tried to jump but Vince said "thanks, but no thanks?"

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  3. I was just typing the same thing. Didn't K-Dogg try to jump too, and was also told to piss off?

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  4. I know Shane and Mick are longtime friends. Pretty cool for Mick.

    As for Douglas jumping with the Radicalz, it could have worked I think. Even without incessant F-Bombs Shane could cut a pretty fired up promo. Don't think he would have reached main event or anywhere close, but he could have survived for a while.

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  5. If WWE want to be serious with their retrospectives, they need Douglas. He was a big figure in 1990s wrestling.

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  6. Outside that shitty Promo what else was he good for?

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  7. What'd Konnan do to get that? I listen to the MLW podcast every week and don't think I've caught that

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  8. I guess it depends which side of the story you're getting.

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  9. The only good thing Shane could do was cuss. Whine about Shawn and Flair. I mean with all due respect the best thing he could do was cuss people out. Austin was originally the same way, but Austin could work and as much as I disagree with bad language - it was more part of Austin's redneck personality than him actually just swearing to be edgy. Austin started out controversial and edgy, but within two years - he was just a redneck. Shane, with all due respect, was nothing once they took away his cussing and his lame nicknames for wrestlers he didn't like. I'm sure the guy is a decent fellow, but he didn't have a like-able character, or in terms of heel-dom - you didn't love to hate the guy - you just wanted him to go away. Kind of like X-Pac heat.

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  10. Well he was the face of ECW during its PPV era.

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  11. I was being mostly facetious with the original post, by the way. I probably should have put "changed his mind" in quotes.

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  12. Hell if I know, man. I've heard conflicting thoughts on whether or not Vince and Konnnan have heat with each other, some say they can't stand one another, others say that they get along fine. Just longtime rumors...

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  13. Didn't Konnan bail on him during the early 90's.

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  14. I know he was Max Moon for about 20 minutes, but I have no idea why he left. Hey Scott, you know anything about this?

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  15. This might be the most spot-on thing I've ever read.

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  16. IIRC, he wasn't happy with his push and took off back to Mexico. Vince wasn't happy because he spent a fuck ton on the gimmick.

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  17. Your book's pretty thin. Not too many pages.

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  18. Can't Tell If Serious... but he theoretically was, since he was the big star of what turned into an upstart promotion... even if he's one of the guys in it who gained very little long-term success or notoriety from it.

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  19. Yeah, Shane always struck me as pandering because of that. But it DID work- the fans were ready for a non-PC, non-PG alternative, and boy howdy did ECW/Shane deliver. It's just too bad he sucked.

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  20. Basically, I agree. Shane was in the right place at the right time, and willing to basically be one of the first guys to REALLY rant with worked-shoots and use the "language of adults" (as Aaron Sorkin called it). It comes across as pandering now, but to an early-90s, post-grunge wrestling fan used to WWF & WCW cartoonishness, it was like an atom bomb of cool.

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  21. Just ok....not legendary or anything. Personally, I think his legacy will be his obsession with hating Ric Flair more than anything

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  22. Thats what I thought it was

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  23. Shane Douglas was basically an internet troll with a title belt. He shot on Flair, Michaels, etc. because part of ECW's rebellious nature was to take potshots at these sacred cows. We knew it at the time, but ESPECIALLY with almost 20 years of hindsight it's clear that Michaels and Flair were miles beyond anything Douglas could bring.

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  24. One of Heyman's major booking flaws with ECW was his attempt at creating a "Flair or Race as NWA champ" vibe by having continually giving heels long-term reigns with the ECW championship. The idea worked when it was a really interesting heel like Raven...not so much when it was a generic placeholder top heel like Douglas or Justin Credible.

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  25. I just saw Shane in the ECW doc Barbed Wire City, and the dude looks fat and old now.

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  26. Douglas always blamed others for his misgivings. Cornette said of him: ''Shane Douglas would only be happy if the match was Shane Douglas vs. Shane Douglas with Shane Douglas as the referee.''

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  27. There was that one time on Raw last year when a masked fan revealed himself to be SHANE DOUGLAS, and was then escorted out of the arena.

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  28. WELL I DONT RESPECT ANYBODY YANNO

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  29. Hah, there is a hardcore Douglas mark on this blog downvoting all the Anti-Douglas remarks.

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  30. With the run-in by Shane Douglas

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  31. "Shane Douglas was basically an internet troll with a title belt."

    Pure fucking POETRY sir!

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  32. The funniest thing about that whole saga was Shane making appearences In XPW against WCW's orders and going on a few long-winded rants about how he was going to take XPW to the next level and how he was sick of WCW and then he almost immediately went crawling back to WCW.

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  33. The Radicals could have used a good mouthpiece.

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  34. I was happy to see Douglas in the Foley documentary. Vader too.

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  35. I disagree. Douglas' reign would have worked if he wouldn't have been injured and unable to defend for like half of it.

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  36. Shane Douglas ceased being anything to the business when he goes to WCW and tells Ric Flair "that was just work".

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  37. I actually agree with this, he just looked like a tool when he tried to go WCW and then jump to WWF after those bridges were torched.

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  38. I agree with this, the issue is he talked this huge game like he should of had Flair or Michael's spot yet couldn't back that up in the ring.

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  39. I liked when the almost stable around Survivor Series 2000 when the Radicalz were sort of with Triple H, way better than Pac and NAO at that point.

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  40. This is what I was going to say. I got into ECW a little late, and the guy barely ever wrestled and when he did, it was no big deal. Taz vs. Bigelow was way more interesting to me.

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  41. It was a work - he used Flair to get himself over.

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  42. Nice of WWE to throw Shane a bone given HHH stole his gimmick. yes, HHH did it better and made more money... But from July 99 to December 1999 it was blatant theft,

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  43. No, I don't believe myself to be a fundamentalist, at least in the terms of how most people see the use of the term. I don't consider myself narrow minded. Hey, there was a time I cussed up a storm. None of us is righteous, no not one. I'll admit I don't like cussing, but before I was saved I'll be straight with you - I used to cuss. Maybe 15 years ago, I could dig Shane Douglas for being edgy and controversial, but it was more because you never heard other promotions shoot on wrestlers from other promotions before. Once WWE took it all over, those shoots were done. Respectably, you might think me as a hypocrite. I know Mr. Keith's stance, and honestly over three years ago I was a skeptic myself - but I examined the Bible and truth in the Bible and then I started studying other world-views, along with Atheism, Buddhism, etc.. and I find no other worldview at this time more historically accurate than Christianity. I know the skeptic/atheist argument, I'm hoping to get some time after exams and my summer classes to examine Bart Earhman again - the agnostic skeptic. I just personally feel the blood of Jesus Christ is real, it was a event that happened, and that He rose from the dead. Many don't believe, but I will respectfully try to express the gospel and the historical proofs of Christ. I understand how many feel, along with Mr. Keith - as I've noted before. Usually, I am here just to remember my childhood memories of wrestling - but I will respectfully defend and continuously study my faith.

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  44. Quote Unquote SirApril 27, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Konnan told some story on the podcast about how there was a misunderstanding early in his WWF run, after Shawn Michaels and Scott Hall accused him of trying to rip Vince off after Vince had spent a lot of money on the Max Moon gimmick.


    Apparently Hall apologized to Konnan later on, but the damage had been done and Vince wanted nothing to do with him.

    I wonder what a WWF Konnan run would have been like, but apparently the mishap during his Max Moon days prevented that from happening.

    Also, WWF probably wasn't interested in him in 2001 because he didn't have a very impressive WCW run (he tended to just be one of the less prominent members in several stables) and was pushing 40 at the time.

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  45. No, it's just that you've made references to it before and I always thought you were another CAPSLOCK MAN or Chin. Just some gimmick poster going for cheap jokes.


    But you're legit though.


    P.S. I have no interest in debating spirituality on a wrestling blog.

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