I'm sure that jokes about San Francisco were groundbreaking back in the day, but this just isn't funny. And I'm not even talking about the homophobic context. Wow, a joke about transvestites in San Fran. Haven't heard that before.
Ah, yes...old school promos. When wrestlers were men, and were able to step up to the mic and not sound like a man who had just rehearsed his lines over the weekend. Back in the early - mid 80's, before political correctness hit it's stride, alluding to San Francisco meant, yes, someone was being called out for his masculinity, or lack thereof. It was funny back in the day, but references such as this do not age very well. But when something like this gets posted, it should give the young 'uns a brief time capsule of "back in the day". If you were around back then, you would have laughed, because you just would not have known any better. Now roll the footage of 80's heel Ken Patera removing his track pants, and the crowd whistling at him! Hilarious!
I had forgotten about the 20/20 incident - I looked it up on the Internet earlier in the evening. Apparently he also challenged Mr. T to a fight backstage.
Not that the joke ages well or is particularly funny but personally a great joke or promo is about the delivery rather than what is actually said a lot of the time, and I was with Mene Gene on this one... I cracked up!
I've actually been cross country a fair bit. And shit's gross. You seen the women in Idaho? I have. You seen the women in North Dakota? I have.
And I know that other countries can't compete with America cause...they're not the United States. Unless you have some deep attraction to Ethiopian famine victims, the USA is the place to be. And SF is the creme de la creme of our fair country.
But keep deluding yourself that the goatherders you're fucking are as fine as the hill-climbing females of the City by the Bay.
Come to NYC. Or Boston the first day of college classes. SF loses. And, yes, I've been to all of these cities. Regardless, we can all agree that any major city beats Portland, OR.
Yeah...the Heyman/Madusa promo from just earlier today is a good example of that. It's terribly offensive, yet also effective. Of coruse, part of that is that Heyman used it as part of his heel character. Dr. D doesn't really integrate into the character as well in this one.
(I'm mostly fucking with people, I think the French aesthetic of beauty quite similar to my own and I know that there are attractive women all over the states ((well not Texas)) but SF has actual reasons for being more attractive. People are generally better educated, better fed and they walk a lot more. Oh, and Toronto is filled with attractive women the one time I went there.)
You ain't fucking anybody right now explains it. Boy can get lost if he doesn't get laid. Starts going stir-crazy out there in the desert. Begins thinking foreigner heifers can match a red-blooded American woman.
Get yourself to a head doctor before you lose yourself to the madness.
Are you implying that SF is all gay people? While, there is a large gay culture in SF, the gayest city in the US is I believe Minneapolis. So better start questioning Brock (or maybe not, if you value feeling in your arms).
Nothing about this promo makes it unique to Schultz. Any heel from 198? could have pulled off these lines. I think a lot of Heyman's promos are great b/c they only sound good coming from his character.
Okay, I can respect it, even if I don't fully agree.
I'm not a personal crusade to sway mass opinions but if you check out some of his promo work, it way more heat-seeking and has enough non-polish that it comes across as raw and grittier than his peers at the time.
I'm generally unfamiliar with Dr. D outside of the Stossel thing so I'll take your word for it and add him to my ever-expanding youtube "to watch" list.
Talk about ahead of its' time. A heel Beefcake in 1993 could have been announced as being "From San Francisco, California ... not that there's anything wrong with that."
I think any place more metropolitan (SF, Vancouver, etc.) is by and large going to have more attractive people then flyover states or areas where not too many people really wanna live.
crap, did you just put the Fuj over?
ReplyDeleteAnd now I want to find the Botchamania ending with this promo over anime. It's equally hilarious.
ReplyDelete"..what's wrong with YOU, Gene.?!?!"
ReplyDeleteIt's nice to see this tribute to DBry breaking the glass ceiling by you finally giving Fuj the main event slot he deserved. When is he taking over?
ReplyDeleteAh yes, I forgot how pro wrestlers used to use 'San Fransisco' as a code word. Wasn't Brutus Beefcake billed as coming from S.F. when he was a heel?
ReplyDeleteTremendous. "What's the matter with you, Gene?"
ReplyDeleteI'm sure that jokes about San Francisco were groundbreaking back in the day, but this just isn't funny. And I'm not even talking about the homophobic context. Wow, a joke about transvestites in San Fran. Haven't heard that before.
ReplyDeleteAh, yes...old school promos. When wrestlers were men, and were able to step up to the mic and not sound like a man who had just rehearsed his lines over the weekend. Back in the early - mid 80's, before political correctness hit it's stride, alluding to San Francisco meant, yes, someone was being called out for his masculinity, or lack thereof. It was funny back in the day, but references such as this do not age very well. But when something like this gets posted, it should give the young 'uns a brief time capsule of "back in the day". If you were around back then, you would have laughed, because you just would not have known any better. Now roll the footage of 80's heel Ken Patera removing his track pants, and the crowd whistling at him! Hilarious!
ReplyDeleteGene trying not to bust over laughing kills me. Great stuff
ReplyDelete"No big deal"
ReplyDeleteI was going to post that as a future POTD.
I don't care what anyone says, homophobic undertones nonwithstanding.
ReplyDeleteDavid Schultz is probably one of most underrated promo guys of all time.
He brings it everytime.
People say Billy Graham was 20 years early.
The same applies for Dr. D
Never saw much of Dr. D. Didn't he flame out right at the start of the Hulkamania era?
ReplyDeleteHilarious!
ReplyDeleteLove your name. Is that a reference to the television broadcast of the big lebowski
ReplyDeleteAfter the 20/20 incident, no promotion with serious thoughts of going national would really touch him.
ReplyDeleteVince paid out about 450K to Stossel, supposedly and then blackballed Dr. D.
I had forgotten about the 20/20 incident - I looked it up on the Internet earlier in the evening. Apparently he also challenged Mr. T to a fight backstage.
ReplyDeleteThe funny thing is that San Francisco women are way more attractive than women anywhere else in the country/world.
ReplyDeleteNot that the joke ages well or is particularly funny but personally a great joke or promo is about the delivery rather than what is actually said a lot of the time, and I was with Mene Gene on this one... I cracked up!
ReplyDeleteRight the first time, my friend.
ReplyDelete...and you base this off of the many trips around the planet you have taken?
ReplyDeleteI've actually been cross country a fair bit. And shit's gross. You seen the women in Idaho? I have. You seen the women in North Dakota? I have.
ReplyDeleteAnd I know that other countries can't compete with America cause...they're not the United States. Unless you have some deep attraction to Ethiopian famine victims, the USA is the place to be. And SF is the creme de la creme of our fair country.
But keep deluding yourself that the goatherders you're fucking are as fine as the hill-climbing females of the City by the Bay.
And promos like this are somehow still loss awkward and offensive than Lawler asking Goldust if he's queer in the late '90s.
ReplyDeleteCome to NYC. Or Boston the first day of college classes. SF loses. And, yes, I've been to all of these cities. Regardless, we can all agree that any major city beats Portland, OR.
ReplyDeleteYeah...the Heyman/Madusa promo from just earlier today is a good example of that. It's terribly offensive, yet also effective. Of coruse, part of that is that Heyman used it as part of his heel character. Dr. D doesn't really integrate into the character as well in this one.
ReplyDeleteIm actually not fucking anything at this moment,
ReplyDeleteBut I have lived in Germany for over 4 years. Been to Norway, France,Spain,England,the Azores, Switzerland, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Czech Rep.
Then Been to Sydney and Darwin
Traveled through Tokyo, Okinawa, Seoul and Singapore.
And roughly any major city in the Southeast of 'Murica.
Ive been to SF, Oakland, Vallejo, Richmond and Sac-town.
And Im not saying they aint fine up there, cuz they are.
But you said world as well and SF doesn't compare to cities like Barcelona, or Saarbrucken, Germany. Or Rotterdam.
Nowhere close.
I dont know bro.
ReplyDeleteMy girl just moved to Portland from Cocoa Beach and theres a reason I call her "Rackzilla"
But again, she is an import. So it may not count.
Could you please explain?
ReplyDelete"Dr. D doesn't really integrate into the character as well in this one."
I'm not fully understanding what you mean.
I've got a large stash of paper bags that says not all dudes like hot women.
ReplyDeleteWasn't impressed by New York. And I hate Boston.
ReplyDelete(I'm mostly fucking with people, I think the French aesthetic of beauty quite similar to my own and I know that there are attractive women all over the states ((well not Texas)) but SF has actual reasons for being more attractive. People are generally better educated, better fed and they walk a lot more. Oh, and Toronto is filled with attractive women the one time I went there.)
ReplyDeleteYou ain't fucking anybody right now explains it. Boy can get lost if he doesn't get laid. Starts going stir-crazy out there in the desert. Begins thinking foreigner heifers can match a red-blooded American woman.
Get yourself to a head doctor before you lose yourself to the madness.
Are you implying that SF is all gay people? While, there is a large gay culture in SF, the gayest city in the US is I believe Minneapolis. So better start questioning Brock (or maybe not, if you value feeling in your arms).
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, man. I guess I wasn't clear enough. Not all dudes like hot women. That's why I have a stash of paper bags: I likes the fatties. High five!
ReplyDeleteNothing about this promo makes it unique to Schultz. Any heel from 198? could have pulled off these lines. I think a lot of Heyman's promos are great b/c they only sound good coming from his character.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I can respect it, even if I don't fully agree.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a personal crusade to sway mass opinions but if you check out some of his promo work, it way more heat-seeking and has enough non-polish that it comes across as raw and grittier than his peers at the time.
I'm generally unfamiliar with Dr. D outside of the Stossel thing so I'll take your word for it and add him to my ever-expanding youtube "to watch" list.
ReplyDeleteTalk about ahead of its' time. A heel Beefcake in 1993 could have been announced as being "From San Francisco, California ... not that there's anything wrong with that."
ReplyDeleteSo does this mean we're in for weeks and weeks of SK lording it over Fuj while the rest of us watch?
ReplyDeleteActually, let's see how that plays out.
Ah, I getcha.
ReplyDeleteWell, I dunno where you live, but if it's in a flyover state I could see how that'd be vital.
Ugly bitches are easier anyway.
I think any place more metropolitan (SF, Vancouver, etc.) is by and large going to have more attractive people then flyover states or areas where not too many people really wanna live.
ReplyDeleteAh, Dr. D. Never anything super special in the ring from what I've seen, but a hell of a heel.
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