Tuesday, September 17, 2013

Top Twenty WWE Matches Of All Time


I originally wanted to do the top 20 greatest  North American matches, but I figured out that there are just way too many awesomely wrestled independent matches, and I was not quite sure where to put them on the list. So, I just decided to do a top 20 WWE list because I didn't want to go crazy from trying to include every single top-tier North American match. The reason I did this was because I was completely bored on a day off from work and school.

Top 20 WWE Matches Of All Time:

20. Raw 1997: Davey Boy Smith vs. Owen Hart —

Hart and Smith displayed some great athleticism that most WWF fans were not accustomed to at the time. This had tons of back-and-forth action and great pacing and timing. More importantly, there was reasoning behind each individual spot. They were not doing them just for the sake of doing them, like you might see in a typical independent match. If this match had longevity or more importance, it would be ranked higher.


19. Survivor Series 1996, Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin —

This was a very different match than their famous “I Quit” bout, but it was awesome nonetheless. This scientifically sound match built to the finish and transitioned at each turn. It should be noted that Steve Austin called most of this match as it proved that Hart knew he good was. Pre-neck injury Austin could mechanically wrestle with some of the best of them.

18. Summerslam 1994, WWF Championship: Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart —

This is the best cage match that had the escaping rule in effect. The teases and false finishes were both well done and greatly timed. There were so many times where the match looked like it was going to end before it finally did. These two just had great chemistry, and it was on full display here.

17. Wrestlemania 7, Career Match: Ultimate Warrior vs. Macho Man Randy Savage —

Savage carried Warrior to not only his greatest match ever, but also one of the best matches ever. Savage played to Warrior’s strengths, doing an excellent job of dictating the pace and setting up Warrior’s hope spots and comebacks. I used to believe matches that were called on the fly came off more natural, but Savage proved that a match could be mapped out in advance and come off equally organic and genuine. It really is a credit to Savage’s imagination that he could see everything playing out almost exactly when he was designing this match. The match also had one of the most historic and emotional moments in wrestling history when Savage and Elizabeth reunited. The entire post-match sequence was so well booked, and Savage teased and sold it beautifully. It also completely made up for a rather lackluster finish to the contest.

 16. Mind Games 1996, WWF Championship: Shawn Michaels vs. Mick Foley —

This match proved that Mick Foley was more than just a glorified stuntman. He went move-for-move, hold-for-hold and toe-for-toe with HBK for half an hour. Some wrestlers have a difficult time selling consistently because they lack the ability to tell a compelling story surrounding the injury. Foley sold TWO body parts at the same time and weaved a great narrative in which he had to adapt to those injuries. Both wrestlers played their roles and strengths, and the only thing that marred this match was the botched finish. Otherwise, it is virtually perfect.

15. Canadian Stampede 1997, Bret Hart, Owen Hart, the British Bulldog, Brian Pillman & Jim Neidhart vs. Steve Austin, Ken Shamrock, Goldust & the Legion of Doom —

This is one of the greatest booked multi-man matches ever. It had NUCLEAR heat and atmosphere, and it was incredibly well structured for a match that had that many wrestlers in it. The combination of intensity and psychology made this a prodigious match, but the pure emotion radiating from the crowd elevated it to an unprecedented classic.

14. Summerslam 2000, TLC I: Edge & Christian vs. The Dudley Boyz vs. The Hardy Boyz —

All the workers in this busted their tails to get this match over, and they got each other even more over in the process. These three teams refurbished WWE’s tag division and, in the process, transformed a once lacking tag division into one of the best in wrestling history. They essentially raised the bar every time they wrestled, too. This had bell-to-bell action with zero down time. It was innovative, told a great story, had very few contrived spots and countless “Holy Sh*t” moments. Most importantly, as the bodies piled up, the intensity continued to rise, all the way to the crescendo.

13. No Way Out 2002, Chris Benoit & Kurt Angle vs. Edge & Rey —

Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle were arguably the greatest “strange bedfellows” tag team ever, and the only reason they coexisted was that they would be suspended if they did not. They put their differences aside here and delivered one of the greatest tag matches in WWE history. They all wrestled each other differently, which brought an incredible level of psychology into the match. And quite awesomely, the wrestlers were three steps ahead of everyone watching. In other words, just when you assumed that they were going in one direction, they would go into a totally different direction. They built their reversals and counters based on their clichéd spots, and they made this into a bout that had so many twists and turns. Just a creative, action-packed match.

12. Raw 2001, Stone Cold Steve Austin & Triple H vs. Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit —

This is best non-gimmick tag match in WWE, and it is also incredibly underrated. There is no doubt about it: This should have been on PPV. If it had been, it might receive more of the recognition it rightfully deserves. The four used every trick conceivable to keep the babyface in peril on an island away from his partner and prevent him from making a “hot tag.” They did so much to build up the tag that the crowd absolutely exploded when Jericho finally tagged in Benoit. The work rate was incredible, and the wrestlers were able to read the crowd’s reaction, identify the boiling point, and then make the tag as the crowd was at its fieriest. This was also exceptionally hectic, with the action spilling out all over the announce table.

11. Wrestlemania 26, Streak vs. Career: Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels —

This was one of the most emotional roller coaster rides since HBK’s match against Ric Flair, but work rate was much better in this. The Streak seems essentially indestructible, but both wrestlers did an excellent job in building the idea that HBK had a chance of winning. This was accomplished through impeccably selling not only moves but the entire match as a whole. It took us on an eventful journey that we simply did not want to end, especially because we did not want either man to lose. Deliberately, however, Shawn Michael’s entire career was flashing before us (which enforced the fans rally behind him). Most of us did not think he was going to win, but we just did not want to believe he was going to lose. This also had all the other the usual elements a terrific match has: psychology, storytelling, timing, in-ring characterizations, etc. Even in his last match, Shawn was able to steal the show. How many wrestlers can say that?

10.  Money in the Bank 2011, WWE Championship: CM Punk vs. John Cena -

This had a big match feel to it that I have not experienced in WWE since possibly The Rock vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin at Wrestlemania 17. There was so much to win, and neither man could afford losing. The atmosphere made it feel as if the Chicago Cubs were facing the Boston Red Sox in the World Series. This had genuine, not fabricated, drama, intensity, and heat. And, most of all, Punk and Cena just didn’t do things for the sake of doing them. Everything made sense and fit the context of the story they were telling. Nothing happened that was impractical like, oh let’s just say Cena hitting a DDT, flipping Punk over, and then putting in the STF. No, instead, a spot in the match went like this: Punk went a cross body, but Cena caught him and rolled through. Cena went for a FU, but CM Punk wiggled out. He set him up for the GTS, but Cena caught Punk’s knee and locked in the STF. Sequences like that allowed everything to feel natural and to flow like a river.

This also had impeccable pacing and timing, and they magnificently built the match to its crescendo. The finish also enhanced the drama. Then, ultimately, Cena’s concern for his  “goody two shoe” image wound up being a character imperfection that caused him to fail. Sometimes, you know, nice people finish last. There were some sloppy spots, but it made me realize that it sold them being both fatigued and desperate better. There were also great things in this, such as Cena’s body language showing his nervousness as a result of the atmosphere in the beginning and then his intense determination toward the end; Punk changing his wrestling style to fit his new character, and the perfect blend of 80s storytelling and psychology but with today’s state-of-the-art moves and characterizations.

9. Royal Rumble 1992: Royal Rumble —

Pat Patterson was a mastermind at booking two things: finishes and Rumbles, and this match was a definitive illustration of that. Flair was booked to steal the show, and he did just that and then some. Every Tom, Dick and Harry tried to eliminate him, but he was able to overcome the odds. And, unlike Rumble matches nowadays, this had boatloads of star power, and it very much uncertain who was going to win. There were particular mini-stories that went on during the Rumble, which made things more captivating. It also helped the Rumble avoid some of the tiresome “let’s just do stuff until the bigger stars enter” routine that often plagues the match. This had prodigious elimination teases, too, particularly with the bigger stars. There were many occurrences when I believed someone was going to eliminate Flair, but he ended up finding a way to stay in the ring. The greatest booked and performed Rumble ever.

8. Royal Rumble 2000, Street Fight for the WWF Title: Cactus Jack vs. Triple H —

This was one of the best WWE feuds ever. Foley was frustrated of being constantly beat up by Triple H, so he brought back the most evil, sadistic and remorseless persona he had back: Cactus Jack. This was one of the greatest structured hardcore brawls ever. They did not do high spots to receive a cheap pop from the crowd. Every spot they did fit squarely in the context of the story they were trying to tell. Everything that they did had purpose. This was also a star-making performance from Triple H, as the fans started to take him more seriously after this. And even though he played a douchebag character, Triple H’s toughness shone, and the fans respected him for it. Mick Foley ended up making Triple H a star, and Hunter ended up making Foley more sympathetic. Talk about elevating each other to a higher level.

7. WrestleMania X-Seven, WWF Championship: Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. The Rock —

When I evaluate a wrestling match, I take everything into consideration, including the way the booking team built up to the match. With that in mind, the Rock and Austin’s angle was one of the most dynamic stories ever told in professional wrestling. Granted, Austin’s heel turn did not work out in the long run, but what happened in the aftermath doesn’t change a thing about how outstanding the rising action leading up to their encounter was. After being hit by a car, Stone Cold was just not the same ass-kicker that he had been before the accident. This was clearly communicated when failed to put Triple H away once and for all in a loss at No Way Out.

Austin’s heel turn came as a total shock to many, but in retrospect, the WWF writing staff brilliantly left a trail of breadcrumbs for anybody who had paid close attention. In a sound byte that was replayed over and over in promos leading up to the match, Austin told the champ “I need to beat you, Rock. I need it more than anything.” What seemed like traditional fare for a pre-match build took on new meaning after the match. Austin knew he lacked the killer instinct he once had, but he desperately wanted to become champion, so he sold his soul to the devil himself… Mr. McMahon. The match itself was amazingly energetic, and it had 60,000 fans in attendance all screaming at the top of their lungs as the two biggest megastars of the 90s slugged it out and pulled out all the stops to be crowned champion. This match had as much of a “big fight” atmosphere as you’ll find anywhere. After adding up all the intangibles, this match deserves to be ranked as one of the all-time greats.

6. No Way Out 2001, Three Stages of Hell: Triple H vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin —

This phenomenal, old school fight mirrored the intensity of Tully Blanchard and Magnum T.A.’s “I Quit” cage match from Starrcade ’86. Simply put, it was just two guys that hated one another trying to kill each other, and that was all it had to be. This match had everything a brawl needs: It was brutally violent, cleverly booked and diligently worked, with both wrestlers playing their respective roles to a tee. The finish played marked a pivotal moment that contributed to Austin’s heel turn, too, as noted above. Additionally, the stipulations were creative, unique, and made the bout feel more like all-out warfare than a sanctioned match.

5. WrestleMania X, Ladder Match for the IC Title: Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon —

I did not think I could love this match any more than I already did. That was before Kevin Nash talked about how many things upper management told them they could not do. Michaels envisioned, layered and structured the entire thing, and singlehandedly made the ladder match what it is today. This still holds up today, even though the bumps aren’t seen to be that exceptional nowadays, because HBK scripted a mesmerizing story while wrestling a ladder and, oh yeah, Razor Ramon too. The thing I also liked about this was its believability. In contrast to many ladder matches, this one actually gave off the impression that it could be real. This was beautifully paced, timed and executed, and, most importantly, innovative. To this day, it remains the greatest ladder match ever, and it is all because of Shawn Michaels.

4. WrestleMania III, Intercontinental Championship: “Macho Man” Randy Savage vs. Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat —

This is the greatest 15-minute match ever and way ahead of its time. It was a light heavyweight bout that had nonstop action and executed the most flawless looking spots I have ever seen. The pace was constantly accelerating, while the psychology was off the charts. Other than its originality, the thing that makes this superior than any of its imitators was its flow and realism. Savage and Steamboat did not reach for any convoluted spots (which, in most cases, just seem contrived and hurt a match’s flow). The finish was flawed, no doubt about it. The involvement of George “The Animal” Steele was unnecessary. I am not a fan of him saving Steamboat, even if Savage was trying to end his career. I believe a babyface should overcome arduous situations by themselves. The finish also was just way too complicated to impeccably pull off, and they should have done a finish that would have been much easier to do, too.Nonetheless, Steamboat received a deafening reaction when he won, so, ultimately, it really did not matter and is just me nitpicking. Regardless, a mediocre finish does not mar an otherwise outstanding, immaculately choreographed match.

3. Badd Blood 1997, Hell in the Cell: Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker —

This was the only time the Hell in the Cell match had a purpose behind it other than “I hate you, you hate me. Let’s fight in a Cell”. Before this, a cage match was a way to settle a difference without people interfering, but someone realized that it was making the wrestlers look very nonathletic since they could not climb a cage (something I was able to do at the age of 10). Therefore, being the smart booker that he is, Jim Cornette came up with this genius idea. He will tell you that it was not an original idea. It was just a hybrid between War Games and the Memphis Cage Match, but the design and purpose were brilliant nevertheless. The towering structure served twin purposes, both as a barrier preventing any outside interference and simultaneously a death trap devised to keep Shawn Michaels from escaping the comeuppance he deserved at the handers of The Undertaker. The latter point really sold this match, as Undertaker brutally beat the hell out of Shawn Michaels. HBK’s shuddering bumps and exquisite selling made the pain seem very genuine, and just when it appeared HBK was finally going to get the upper hand and deliver one of his signature moves or his finisher, Undertaker shrugged it off, leaving viewers wondering if it was even possible for HBK to emerge victorious.

And that made the finish even more powerful. I do not know why people seem to hate it so much. In one fell swoop, they finally debuted Kane, they made him look like a total badass by tearing the locked Cell door clean off its hinges, and they allowed the cowardly heel Michaels to win yet another tainted contest, all without damaging The Undertaker’s credibility. Honestly, it’s Booking 101. And what better way to end the HBK and Undertaker feud than with the heel coming out on top. This was a very original and intense match that included the long-awaited début of Kane. Everything about it was just about perfect.

2. WrestleMania 10: Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart —

Bret Hart wrestled twice this night, as he faced Owen Hart in the opener and then Yokozuna for the WWF Championship in the main event. This was a technical masterpiece and arguably the best ever. The timing of the spots, the smooth transitions, the unparalleled chemistry, and both wrestlers being able to progressively build the match all the way to its crescendo solidifies this as the blueprint on how to correctly carry out a wrestling magnum opus.

On top of that, the match told a great story. Owen Hart was fed up being overshadowed by his older brother, so in order to exercise his demons, he decided to prove once and for all that he was better than big brother Bret. The contest illustrated that Bret was definitely the superior wrestler, as he was always one step ahead of his young brother. But Owen was able to pull off a key reversal that allowed him to pull off a major upset. Owen treated his fluky win as though it had been a dominant performance, which helped him develop into an even more exaggerated, overemotional heel. After Bret Hart finally conquered his long-lasting quest to become WWF Champion, Owen came out with a look on his face that said, “Did you forget something? You didn’t beat me.” What was supposed to be a beautiful moment for Bret ended up as a bittersweet moment, because Bret knew that even though he finally won the title, his loss to Owen earlier in the night cast a shadow over what should have been the biggest night of his career. Like I said, there is a case for this match as the greatest of all time thanks to phenomenal booking with superb work rate to match.

1. I Quit Match, WrestleMania 13: Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin —
This was not a wrestling match. This was a battle. These two were both incredibly gifted wrestlers that just seemed to click with each other. As a result, they put on some compelling bouts. On an otherwise uninspiring WrestleMania card, both of these ring magicians defined the suspension of disbelief. This match had nuclear heat, as it gave off the notion that both men truly wanted to massacre each other. They turned a completely bored crowd into one that was on the edge of its seat. And really, that’s just a figure of speech because nobody was sitting down. Everyone in the arena was standing. It had everything you could want in brawl: psychology, storytelling, emotion, selling, realistic facial expressions, an incredible atmosphere and prodigious booking. 

Above all, both men pulled off exactly what Vince McMahon wanted them to do: Bret Hart turn into a narcissist that only was concerned about winning, which made the fans feel as if he completely turned on him. And while Stone Cold wasn't your conventional babyface, this brawl revealed his inner face-like qualities. He had heart and perseverance, and he showed that he was never going to quit. The finish exemplified just that, as refused to tap out to the Sharpshooter to the point where he passed out from the pain. Contrary to modern wrestling, signature moves had a great deal of significance back then. Hart would never lock in his finishing submission maneuver just to inject drama into a match. When Hart put an opponent in the Sharpshooter, winning was usually a foregone conclusion. Long story short, it was a surreal moment when Austin lasted as long as he did in the Sharpshooter. This match was historic, important and just flat-out tremendous.

64 comments:

  1. Taker/HBK from WM 25 > Taker/HBK from WM 26.

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  2. There might be a couple disagreements here.

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  3. I read #20. The list no longer had any credibility.

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  4. Mainly because Taker tweaked his knee early on during the rematch. Both matches were great (or better), but 26 could never get into the highest gear.

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  5. It is a pretty damn good match, maybe not #20 all-time to everyone, but not out of place there either.

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  6. Center justified?

    Way too much Bret and not enough Shawn.

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  7. I cannot wait for the discussion on this list.
    I love topics like this.

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  8. Finally, a best match list on this website with a near-acceptable amount of Bret Hart.

    I am not being sarcastic.

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  9. OK - so how would you rank these matches?
    People can spout off that the list has no credibility, blah blah blah. But how about you offer up some points of discussion.

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  10. So, uh... Bulldog/Owen is better than...


    *Any of the Rock/Mankind matches, Rock/Benoit, Rock/Angle, Rock/Jericho... let alone the hot sexy magic of Rock/HHH at Backlash?


    *Shawn/Taker at 25, Shawn/Angle at 21, Shawn/Benoit/HHH at 20, Shawn/Jericho at whatever your favorite one of their series was, Shawn/Diesel at Better Enemies (or at WM 11, while we're at it), Shawn/Austin at KOTR, Shawn/Cena in London, or Shawn/HHH at Summerslam?


    *Eddie Guerrerro never existed. Ok then. For that matter, neither did Brock Lesnar. Or Curt Hennig. Or Batista. Or if they did exist, none of them had a better match than Owen/Bulldog on Raw.


    *Speaking of Bulldog, remember those great matches he had against Bret and Shawn? Neither does Kyle.


    *Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus from Extreme Rules, vs. Punk from any time you like, and vs. anybody else (Ziggler, Shield, Cena, etc.) did not exceed the quality of Owen vs. Bulldog on Raw.


    *Needs more Macho Man. But, then, what doesn't?




    In summary... this is not a list I endorse.

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  11. No Hogan/Warrior?

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  12. Someone advocating that Diesel/HBK from WM11 should be on a Top 20 list...yikes.

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  13. No. I listed over twenty matches myself, I'm pretty sure. My point is that Owen/Bulldog is nowhere near top 20 land. I don't think Diesel/Shawn WM 11 is, either, but I think it's better than Bulldog/Owen.

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  14. Hart/Hart is WAY too high. Swap it with Punk/Cena and you start to get a list.

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  15. Work rate-wise, this list is hard to argue with. Each match had a lot going for them and I can watch many of these over and over again, although I'll admit to not having seen every match on the list.


    For me, though, a lot of the best matches are more about the story than the work rate between the ropes. Some matches that I would include as favorites that aren't on this list here:


    Hogan vs. Savage, WrestleMania V - Probably Hogan's best PPV match, and the culmination of a year-long story that had me drawn in from jump street.


    Tag Team Survivor match, Survivor Series 1988 - Probably the earliest double-turn I can remember, and while not as skillfully articulated as the Hart-Austin WM13 match, it was definitely fun. Monsoon and Ventura sold the story throughout the end stages of the match, too, with the Powers toying with the Conquistadors and not eliminating them, giving them a cake win once Fuji managed to get the Demos counted out.


    Hart Foundation-Demolition, SummerSlams 1988 and 1990 - Both matches had great stories leading up to the matches, and the Harts winning the gold in 1990 was a great mark-out moment for me.


    Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle, WrestleMania XX - Just a fun match with a great ending.


    I'm sure there are a bunch of others that I'm forgetting about now, but those are the ones that pop off the top of my head. There are a bunch of great tag matches from the 80s that are great to watch, too, but I don't know which ones to single out.

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  16. It's totally out of place. Vince Russo was given total control of creative after that abomination of a show. Mediocre match, no business being on this list. The rest of the list was decent, if not totally out of order.

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  17. Shit shows can have one fine match buried under the rubble.

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  18. I don't think that match makes a top 100 WWE matches ever.

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  19. What's with the Davey Boy Smith-Owen Hart hate? Scott Keith rated that five-stars, and I think Meltzer did too.

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  20. Jesus Christ pick a Benoit or Angle match, how about Austin-Benoit from Smackdown 2001.

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  21. It may have been a bad episode of RAW, but it was a fantastic match.

    It's 'top 20 matches of all times'. Not 'top 20 matches that headlined great shows'.

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  22. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    I would pull the Bret-Owen cage match from SS '94, and add Undertaker-Angle from No Way Out 2006. One of thosse slow-build-to-an-awesome-finish kind of matches. The first match that truly showed me that The Undertaker can change his style and adapt to the worker he's with.

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  23. Had Benoit not PISSED away his legacy like he did I'm 100% positive HHH/HBK/Benoit would've made a list like this. But, you know. Honestly I would've rather lived in a world where Benoit got some help and he was exposed to the wrestling world as a flawed human being who had issues to deal with and wasn't a saint who just happened to be a great wreslter. Not as someone who we found out had these issues, WHEN IT WAS TOO LATE.

    Now to the wrestling world. he's a reminder of the worst extreme of what a wrestler is capable of if they put their mind and body through the torture that he did, night in and night out.

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  24. .....in your opinion.

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  25. Idiots looking to make a name for themselves. That is what is with the hate!

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  26. Are you talking about the Bulldog/Owen match?
    If so, wow.

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  27. I don't know. My only thought is that it wasn't a very 'historic' match. It was part of a mediocre episode of RAW for a tertiary title that existed mainly for DBS to carry around in Europe. The angle, show, and overall feel wasn't as 'historic' as some other matches on the list.

    But I agree - it was a great match.

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  28. They probably didn't even read what the author said either. They just scrolled down, looked at each match, and compared it to their list. Otherwise, someone would be giving the author for doing a great job in describing why he picked the matches that he did. Regardless, it would be boring if we all thought the same way, because then there would be no point in doing lists, and the world would be pretty boring.

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  29. You must have tears in your eyes.

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  30. Way too much Bret and Shawn. Not enough Melina and Alicia Fox.

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  31. It's definitely a good match, and I'd go an easy 4.25 on it... but it's basically it's ultimately just a really good TV match, and not one that (I personally think) holds a whole lot of re-watch value. Now, sure, there's probably 70+ matches with a credible top 20 case (or, you know, fifteen if you remove Shawn, Bret, and the SmackDown Six), but I just don't see that match as being on that level. I feel basically the same about his pick for #19: definitely a great match, but it isn't hard for me to name 30 or so that I think are better.

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  32. Yeah, I'm not sure if I'd include it in my top 20....but I'm not going to argue about someone else including it. These type of things are subjective, and people are going to be biased towards certain styles, wrestlers, time periods, etc. they enjoy the most.

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  33. He went to Kyle's hotel room with tears in his eyes to tell him it was the greatest list he's ever seen.

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  34. Your_Favourite_LoserSeptember 17, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    should #13 be no mercy '02?

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  35. All great matches, but they're the same great matches that always appear on lists like this with numbing regularity, so these lists just all start to blur into one for me.

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  36. When McMahon first said Benoit was erased from WWE history, I was saddended that all he did wouldn't be remembered... but I have tons of Benoit stuff on old DVDs and absolutely no desire to watch it. None at all.

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  37. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 17, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    It so easy to separate Benoit the Wrestler from Benoit the Brain-Damaged Deviant. At least, for me it is. I have no issues watching his matches today. He had a tremendous IN RING legacy. Ban him for life, sure. But don't pretend he didn't matter. Pete Rose is banned from the Hall of Fame, but he is still the all time hits leader. It wasn't erased. He may not have committed anywhere near the crimes that Benoit did, but it's the same type of situation. People need to get over this tragedy like they need to get over the loss of ECW, and the NWO, and the lack of a Cena heel turn.

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  38. Benoit was actually included on this guys list. I was simply offering up a "point of discussion". I felt that match was a good replacement for #20, which I personally felt is the most over rated match possibly ever.

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  39. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 17, 2013 at 3:28 PM

    Must have been awkward.

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  40. It's not so easy for me.


    It was easier for me before I had a child of my own. But now I just can't stomach it.

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  41. Sure it is my opinion , just like I disagree with people that say Steamboat-Savage or Steamboat-Flair matches suck.

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  42. I can still watch his matches, but I feel guilty for doing so.

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  43. The list is pretty decent, but there is no argument in the free world where HHH/Taker makes the list from WM26, but WM 25 gets omitted. The 1st match was just a rock star event that I could watch for the next 10 years. And it's been a long time since a crowd has lost their mind like that for 30 minutes. There is just no logic there.

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  44. Austin/Rock WM X7 is 1 in my book. Yea you can nit pick the finish but the two biggest stars of their generation, at the apex of their ability and popularity, main eventing the greatest ppv ever (IMO). Not

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  45. Wow. I am an idiot. Edited, and thanks. Good points.

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  46. I also liked how the 26 match built off the 25 one. Like a great sequel.


    They're both incredible matches.

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  47. I think in a vacuum 25 was slightly better. The build up, stipulation, and the emotion of 26 nudge it ahead of 25 in my book. Theyre both great matches obviously.

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  48. No offense or anything, but I think you're overreacting to one guy's opinion. I mean, personally, I think it's kind of odd that you mentioned Batista as being on the same level as Brock, Hennig, and Eddie, but I won't respond with several paragraphs.


    Different strokes for different folks, that's all.

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  49. Just like I did for the "Top Fifteen PPVs" thread, I'll throw my twenty favorite WWE matches on here just for the hell of it:


    - Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat ("WrestleMania 3")
    - Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect ("King of the Ring, 1993")
    - Undertaker vs. Mankind ("King of the Ring, 1998")
    - Rock vs. Mankind ("Royal Rumble, 1999")
    - Hardys vs. Edge & Christian ("No Mercy, 1999")
    - Hardys vs. E&C vs. Dudleys ("Summerslam, 2000")
    - Steve Austin vs. Triple H ("No Way Out, 2001")

    - Hardys vs. E&C vs. Dudleys ("WrestleMania X7")
    - Kurt Angle vs. Shane McMahon ("King of the Ring, 2001")
    - The "Royal Rumble" Match ("Royal Rumble, 2002")
    - Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle ("Unforgiven, 2002")
    - Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle vs. Big Show ("Vengeance, 2003")
    - Randy Orton vs. Mick Foley ("Backlash, 2004")
    - John Cena vs. JBL ("Judgment Day, 2005")
    - Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker ("WrestleMania 25")
    - Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker ("WrestleMania 26")
    - Christian vs. Alberto Del Rio ("Extreme Rules, 2011")
    - Christian vs. Randy Orton ("Over the Limit, 2011")
    - CM Punk vs. John Cena ("Money In The Bank, 2011")
    - Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena ("Extreme Rules, 2012")


    [I'll also add that - as I've said many times before - my favorite match of all time is Yoshihiro Tajiri vs. Steve Corino from ECW's "Hardcore Heaven, 2000".]


    Keep in mind, this is just my personal faves, it's not supposed to be about having historical significance or what others think of as being the best. Think of it as "The Twenty WWE Matches that Stu Has or Could Watch Repeatedly Without Getting Bored". And in all honesty, I actually had trouble coming up with twenty; I'm sure that there are some that I forgot to list, as I'm doing this off the top of my head, and I know that there are plenty of highly-acclaimed matches that I'm not as into. There are also some matches that I really loved, but just have no interest in going back and rewatching (usually because I think they're too long to sit through once I know the ending).


    As it stands, though, I think this is a pretty good idea of what I'm into: I like scientific clinics and hardcore bump-fests, but don't really like the "Main-Event Style" of the top stars punching and kicking and reversing finishers.


    So, umm, yeah. Criticize away.

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  50. This is a really good read and I have zero problems with the list. I'd probably have angle vs taker at no way out 2006 and maybe the Benoit vs angle match from the Royal rumble, maybe perfect vs Bret at ss 91 or Bret vs hbk at survivor series 92

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  51. I love Cena/Brock, its probably my favorite match of the past 5 years. I think it should have made the list. If it had ANY historical significance or had been at a bigger PPV, itd be viewed differently.

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  52. I disagree with about half the list (be it through placement or exclusions), but this was still a finely written piece. Some of the analyses and summaries put me right back to when I was watching the matches for the first time. It was so well done that I'm almost mad that we've reverted to a "top" or "best of" list because it cheapens the prose here. This might be better off with a title saying, "Here's 20 awesome matches I have unique opinions on and wish to explore"

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  53. Trips/Taker at WM27 is probably too polarizing to be on any type of "general consensus" list.

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  54. I guess my main thing is I thought Kyle Fitta was gone from this site. Solid list, HBK-Taker from 25 should be there obviously.

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  55. True. I personally think it's a great match, but I understand why many don't like it. Actually, if I wasn't so lazy, that would be an interesting list : the 20 most polarizing matches in WWE history.

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  56. Great #1


    One of my a-time favorites.




    Great list.

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  57. I know 'time' allows certain matches to gain mythical status but I feel Punk/Lesnar from this past Summerslam should rank quite highly... it was an absolutely brutal affair that has resurrected Lesnar as the monster he should have always been portrayed throughout his recent run.

    Also is it fair to discount Benoit's matches? I think RR03 against Angle and the WMXX main event are two of the best matches ever with the latter being the greatest 'wrestling' match in WM history IMO.

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  58. Agreed it was for many the pinnacle of pro wrestling for a generation. Also the highest grossing North American PPV of all time.. (actually frustrates me when they talk about the buy-rates now being higher but only because it includes international whereby in the past it was free).

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  59. Ooh, I like that.


    The Bret/Shawn "Ironman" match has got to be on there. I can also see Rock/Foley "I Quit" (almost disturbingly violent) and Vince/Shane at WM17 (over-the-top "sports entertainment" match) being on there.

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  60. Watching both live, I thought Shawn might win at 25. Never got to that point at 26, which it hurt it for me.

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  61. Others that come to mind:
    - HHH vs. Benoit vs. Michaels is one of the best matches ever, regardless of what happened later.

    - Angle vs. Benoit is an absolute classic.
    - Punk vs. Lesnar.
    - Angle vs. Lesnar.

    - Angle vs. Cena



    I can't possibly argue against your #1 pick.

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  62. I think that's probably #1 on a "most polarizing" list.

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  63. Rock vs. HHH Ironman from Judgment Day comes to mind

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