What are your favorite crossovers?
Naturally, kentacohut.
Beyond the unholy (and wholly delicious) marriage of KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut, I have a soft spot for cross overs. I think they're neat and even if they're not always *good*, it's always fun.
A Star is Burns - I caught this episode before 'hype' was a thing on the internet, and loved it. Here's a humdinger - when this first aired I was 9. I triple checked the math on that and its right. I remember because my mind was blown apart when the episode made a "Jetsons meet the Flinstones" joke, a tape I had accidentally taped over that *very* day. Unless my memory is fooling me which is very possible.
Obviously through 17 more years worth of re-watches and internet fiddling, I learned Groening was upset about the whole thing and took his name off the episode. Which always struck me kind of terrible. He tried to get the episode pulled, and said some really nasty things to James L. Brooks, who brought us Mary Tyler Moore for crying out loud.
Anyway the episode is a near classic. It's where "Boo-urns" actually comes from and it makes a wild point about trying to convince Homer to choose the 'better' film over the more entertaining one.
The Jetsons meet The Flintstones - I watched this tape all the time as a kid. Fun little plot and tons of fish out of water humor, which is good in pretty much any flick. I don't remember much about it now, but remember liking it at the time and being the first time I got a 'concept" for cross-overs.
Some more to think about:
The Onslaught Saga (any comic nerds want to explain this one too me? Is is worth reading?), The Avengers, Freddy Vs. Jason, No Crossover: The Trial of Allen Iverson, The Rugrats Go Wild, That time the Ninja Turtles met The Power Rangers, X-men: Days of Future Past, That time all those cartoon characters came together to say no to drugs, That time Jordan played baseball,
Naturally, kentacohut.
Beyond the unholy (and wholly delicious) marriage of KFC, Taco Bell, and Pizza Hut, I have a soft spot for cross overs. I think they're neat and even if they're not always *good*, it's always fun.
A Star is Burns - I caught this episode before 'hype' was a thing on the internet, and loved it. Here's a humdinger - when this first aired I was 9. I triple checked the math on that and its right. I remember because my mind was blown apart when the episode made a "Jetsons meet the Flinstones" joke, a tape I had accidentally taped over that *very* day. Unless my memory is fooling me which is very possible.
Obviously through 17 more years worth of re-watches and internet fiddling, I learned Groening was upset about the whole thing and took his name off the episode. Which always struck me kind of terrible. He tried to get the episode pulled, and said some really nasty things to James L. Brooks, who brought us Mary Tyler Moore for crying out loud.
Anyway the episode is a near classic. It's where "Boo-urns" actually comes from and it makes a wild point about trying to convince Homer to choose the 'better' film over the more entertaining one.
The Jetsons meet The Flintstones - I watched this tape all the time as a kid. Fun little plot and tons of fish out of water humor, which is good in pretty much any flick. I don't remember much about it now, but remember liking it at the time and being the first time I got a 'concept" for cross-overs.
Some more to think about:
The Onslaught Saga (any comic nerds want to explain this one too me? Is is worth reading?), The Avengers, Freddy Vs. Jason, No Crossover: The Trial of Allen Iverson, The Rugrats Go Wild, That time the Ninja Turtles met The Power Rangers, X-men: Days of Future Past, That time all those cartoon characters came together to say no to drugs, That time Jordan played baseball,
Best crossover-Allen Iverson
ReplyDeleteAllen Iverson's was pretty famous in the late nineties.
ReplyDeleteIf that's true, why do I have rings and he doesn't?-Mark Madsen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgOQO5MilfI
ReplyDeleteThe Judgement Night soundtrack.
ReplyDeleteI was also going to say Allen Iverson.
ReplyDeleteThe Avengers film for sure. To see those six heroes on film in a movie that was an amazingly fun time, comic fan wet dream.
ReplyDeleteSuper Smash Brothers.
ReplyDeleteJump Ultimate Stars.
Basically the same thing just with different fandoms
Remember Mugen X?
ReplyDeleteZero Hour is obviously my favorite crossover.
ReplyDeleteThat they retconned Hal Jordan's heel turn makes me sad.
Your first answer was correcrt... the combo long john silvers and taco bell feed troughs
ReplyDeleteSeveral people have said this... can someone explain?
ReplyDeleteYou must be the biggest Taco Bell fan I have ever known... Doctor.
ReplyDeleteYea, big fan. I eat really healthy but have 1 "cheat day" every 7-8 days. Typically consume as much taco bell, pizza, or long john silvers as possible in that 1 day.
ReplyDeleteSame here... though it ends up being like 1.5 days a lot of the time... I bet I consume more calories in those couple days than the rest of the week combined... it doesn't seem to have any effect though.
ReplyDeleteI was never able to get Mugen to work, and abandoned it
ReplyDeleteAllen Iverson was great at moving the ball from one hand to another while appearing to go the direction opposite his defender would think.
ReplyDeleteI think.
Onslaught was a Fatal Attractions retcon basically.
ReplyDeleteMagneto rips out Wolvies Adamantium... Xavier goes to mind wipe Magneto in retaliation... in the psionic transfer, Magneto's "evil essence" per se crosses over into Xavier and gestates into Onslaught.
Wiki it and move on
Mortal Kombat/ DC in theory, though the game wasn't the greatest. Taco Bell/ Pizza Hut would be pretty damn high up there, too.
ReplyDeleteI have never read it (though I do have the issue where Magneto rips out the adamantium... why did it take the master of magnetism so long to realize he might have an advantage over the guy with the metal skeleton?) but I always thought it sounded really good... but heard it was really awful... I guess I just like the idea of how overpowered Onslaught was...
ReplyDeleteHow did they explain the re-birth of the heroes that died?
ReplyDeleteDid you mean to respond to my other post? Because I just said I'd never read it
ReplyDeleteIt's the story that ended my comic fandom for five years.
ReplyDeleteJust a general thread reply!
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ReplyDeleteBasketball move that he was awesome at. Youtube like "allen iverson crossovers michael jordan" and youll see it, prob like a 20 second clip
ReplyDeleteDavid Bowie and Mick Jagger joining forces for "Dancing in the Streets." Rock n' Roll's proudest moment.
ReplyDeleteI've read Zero Hour a few times since it happened, and it really comes across as bombastic nonsense from Dan Jurgens much of the time. Plus the Monarch/Extent deal makes absolutely no sense.
ReplyDeleteBut it was certainly interesting in concept and the Parallax reveal was great.
Tim Hardaway
ReplyDeleteLove that movie!
ReplyDeleteWhen did Maxine go to the AWA? I don't remember her there at all, not saying she didn't, just wondering time frame. She did show up in the UWF in 86 as a valet for Jack Victory where she had a brief feud with Dark Journey. She would of been a perfect heel for GlOW.
ReplyDeleteThis happened. And you let it happen.
ReplyDeleteThe Monarch/Extant/Waverider portion of the story was confusing and unnecessary... as is anything involving Hank Hall... and the story line has been basically undone since then... but man did I think it was awesome when I was a teenager to see one of the true good guys absolutely lose his shit and become a heel so powerful he was going to rewrite the entire universe... combine the fact that Lantern was always my favorite in DC and I felt overshadowed in the DCU a lot, the fact that you can kind of see where he is coming from... and that I have been probably not unfairly accused of being a megalomaniac myself at times and it was basically written just for me... he even got good redemption later on when he reignited the Sun... but they had to go and retcon the whole thing all to hell and reveal Parallax as something else... very irritating.
ReplyDeleteMvC, full stop. ANd you do know that the Flintstones really aren't stone age...they are who live on the ground in the Jetsons' universe. Elroy's time machine just blew up and sent everyone plummeting to Bedrock.
ReplyDeleteWhat is the BoD's opinion on Turtles Forever? And its distant cousin, Back to Alvin;s Future (this was a spoof of BTTF in the season when the Chipmunks were doing nothing but movie spoofs. And it's pretty entertaining, as the 80s-style Chipmunks meet the Alvin Show versions)
I haven't seen turtles forever, but I do remember that Alvin and Chipmunks thing and thought it was pretty wild.
ReplyDeleteIt's the story that ended my comic fandom.
ReplyDeleteGotta be the time that a Star Wars convention met in Dallas, one block away from a Star Trek convention. Some of those Trekkies crossed over to the Star Wars side, set their phasers to ANNOYING and just totally fucked shit up. I saw a kid dressed as Yoda take a Tribble and set it on fire. It was utter fucking chaos.
ReplyDeleteThe line up for Jake Lloyd autographs reminded me of Lonely Virgil.
...it's the story that made me more than a casual fan of comics.
ReplyDeleteThe Jake Lloyd thing is the best thing I've read all week.
ReplyDeleteActs of Vengeance.
ReplyDeleteTHREADJACK!
ReplyDeleteThought I would share this with you guys. I'm sure all the Bret Hart are gonna love this.
http://www.brethart.com/bio/columns/story-about-goldberg-jericho
I can see Groening's point in that whole controversy bit- he has much more of an "indie cred" vibe than the others, and probably saw Brooks & Jean (and whoever else worked on The Critic) trying to shoehorn their new pet project up against his proven successful franchise. It looks dirty in a corporate perspective.
ReplyDeleteTo the credit of the show runners, they made sure to point out the gag over how dirty it was ("Hey, you're Jay Sherman! You're show's great- I think all kids should watch it!!.... UUUUGGGGHHHH, I suddenly feel so DIRTY!").
Days of Futures Past is a crossover?
ReplyDeleteFavorite Crossover in comics: Age of Apocalypse
Franklin Richards, the uber-powerful son of Reed & Sue, used his Phenomenal Cosmic Powers to re-set the universe in a little pocket universe he'd created, and the heroes sorta sprung out of that. I think. It's been years since I read Heroes Return.
ReplyDeleteHe always knew he could have controlled Wolverine.
ReplyDeleteHe has stated it quite a few times and as has controlled Colossus in the past.
Well they're crossing over with themselves!
ReplyDeleteMore and more suck.
ReplyDeleteThen why not do it?
ReplyDeleteTurtles Forever was pretty fun, though they kind of went over the top in making the '80s Turtles look stupid and goofy. Though watching Raph turn and talk to the camera while The Purple Dragon Guy is interrogating him was fucking hilarious ("WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO!? THERE'S NO ONE THERE!!"
ReplyDeleteOnce the Mirage Turtles show up, it's just icing on the cake (especially with the parody of the "80s superhero monologue" style popular ever since Frank Miller did it). Plus Bebop & Rocksteady save the universe.
But then how did they get into the universe that they're in now?
ReplyDeleteArchie Meets The Punisher.
ReplyDeleteBecause Magneto wasnt always a tyrant.
ReplyDeleteHe was always trying to save mutantkind and make them see that superiority is the way and co-existance.
He never wanted to fight them.
You confusing me.
ReplyDeleteTrue. I have always thought that were I mutant in that Universe I would likely have seen things the way Magneto did as opposed to Xavier... I always found the relationship between Xavier and Magneto to be one of the most compelling aspects of the Marvel Mutantverse
ReplyDeleteHe just says that Jericho learned stuff from Stu (and this is from YEARS AGO- Stu was still alive). Of course, that's incorrect, as Jericho would say years later that he was trained by a guy using the official "Dungeon rulebook" or whatever, and barely interacted with any Harts. But Bret also calls Chris "A Calgary Kid", proving he doesn't have all the facts right. He's probably hearing a ton of shit third-hand from a guy who knew somebody who saw the fight.
ReplyDeleteThere was a rap song against violence called "Self-Destruction". I got the cassingle back in 89. It was like a hip-hop "We are the World".
ReplyDeleteI also bought a paperback DC/Marvel crossover in the eighties with Superman and Spider-Man on the cover that pretty much blew my young mind.
The Cartoon All-Stars To The Rescue one blew my fucking mind as a child. I mean, Michaelangelo, Muppet Babies & Alvin and the fucking Chipmunks all coming together?
ReplyDeleteFuck that.
ReplyDeleteWe all in the same gang!!!
Xavier/Magneto = Macolm/Martin
ReplyDeleteI love that Cyclops and Wolverine are the new Xavier/Magneto
Yeah, I guess there were two songs like that.
ReplyDeleteReal shit, I love both.
ReplyDeleteCan't forget the split screen McMahons. Raw is Nitro. Nitro is Raw. " Is this really happening?"
ReplyDeleteEpisode of Transformers that Cobra Commander was on (they never said who he was but he screamed (Co-BRAAA!!! at the end.)
ReplyDeleteThe episode of Voltron where the Lion and Vehicle robots teamed up.
Also, Ray #0 is one of my favorite single issues ever, and the post-ZH Legion of Superheroes is the series that (temporarily) got my wife hooked on the DCU.
ReplyDeleteThis guy gets it.
ReplyDeleteLike the fantastic four go to the pocket universe, but they're in the regular universe now, right?
ReplyDeleteI thought he tried to cough out cobra at the end
ReplyDeleteBut I love that ep "almost human" or something like that.
Also, I thought there was more than one ep with the Lion/Vehicle Voltrons (3 iirc)
She did a few matches in the Summer of 85. From there, she went to the UWF.
ReplyDeleteI really think Damage was created just for that story... I know he had his own book, but it didn't last long... and where do you really go from there... you already saved the Universe after you've been around like a month... kind of hard to have him go stop bank robbers and shit.
ReplyDelete- The episode of Supernatural where the Winchesters appeared in an episode of Dr. Sexy, M.D.
ReplyDelete- The Janitor's appearance in The Fugitive
- Abed's appearance on Cougar Town/Abed's story about appearing on Cougar Town in the My Dinner With Andre episode of Community
And while I wouldn't call it my favorite or anything, the recent appearance by Spidey, Hulk, Iron Man, and Thor on Phineas and Ferb definitely had its moments (and even more hints that Ferb is actually a Timelord).
ReplyDeleteOkay this is how it went in a nutshell:
ReplyDeleteOnslaught absorbs the powers or Xavier/Magneto and tried to get Franklin Richards.
Onslaught is "self-destructing" so to speak and needs "energy" or else he blows up. Since he is comprised of mutant energy the xmen couldnt use their energy.
Crap, I just realized I was thinking of the Ray Annual #1. Never mind.
ReplyDeleteNow working as a deputy comms dir for the federal genome project. http://www.genome.gov/27545552
ReplyDeleteThat episode of power rangers with 10 red rangers.
ReplyDeleteReference responded to accordingly.
ReplyDeleteRight. The heroes reborn universe is franklins pocket universe. He brought them back in heroes return.
ReplyDeleteWhen I lived in the southwest, there were combo Long John Silvers and A&Ws. It was the greatest thing ever.
ReplyDeleteShame they couldn't keep that quiet beforehand. It was still nuts, but imagine how crazy that would have been if it was a surprise.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS6jtOihTCg
ReplyDeleteicarly/victorious
ReplyDeletewhen e.t. people appeared in star wars
ReplyDeleteanthrax/public enemy
when roger walked in the griffin's living room at the end of a family guy ep (separate shows, so it still counts)
asia (king crimson/uk x yes x buggles x elp)
Okay, I didn't see her in the AWA match listings anywhere. Maybe it was a PWUSA show as some of those aren't documented as well.
ReplyDeleteThanks
The Monarch deal had to be salvaged, as i recall. It was supposed to be Captain Atom's big heel turn but it never came to pass.
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna throw a vote in for Godzilla: Final Wars. Sure, the plot involving the humans and the aliens was Monster Zero by way of a B+ Matrix. But we got the blowoff to the Godzilla/Gigan feud, a pretty damn good Big Bad and the response to the Broderick movie that everybody wanted. All that and Don Frye.
ReplyDeleteThats correct, but its hilarious how you explained it.
ReplyDeleteHow the fuck could I forget EPMD's song "Crossover"
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC1psGZXZlw
The one I saw was one movie that they occasionally chop up into smaller episodes.
ReplyDeleteAnd he did cough out the "Cobra" line.
you right about the voltron joint. my voltrons is all out of order, so i have no clue what is what after sven gets hurt and the princess takes his place.
ReplyDeleteSo basically after ep 5, im fucked.
She participated in a battle royal that can be seen on YouTube. The commentary is in Japanese.
ReplyDeleteBoth your choices would be on my list. Jetsons meet the Flintstones was a staple of my childhood. I'll never forget the life lesson Barney taught me: the best way to fix a washing machine is smacking it with a giant club.
ReplyDeleteI saw that a few years ago. It's inexplicably appealing, even now.
ReplyDeleteIn the Japanese version Sven gets killed. The Vehicle Voltrons get repetitive and boring.
ReplyDeleteoh forreal?
ReplyDeletei never watched the original version of Go-Lion or whatever its called, just the dubbed, spliced american version.
i can remember back in like 84-85, my moms got me the black lion, but wouldnt pay for the other joints cuz she couldnt afford them.
They show the differences here.
ReplyDeletehttp://youtu.be/9w-aeU0KwuE
I collected them when I was little but got tired of that shit quick. (Even had the third Voltron nobody really talks about)
Man, I am so sorry, but I *really* wanted to like that movie, but it was pretty horrible...especially when you compare it to Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack. That's how you book a monster fucking heel.
ReplyDeleteI had Superman vs Muhammad Ali. Don't remember the plot, but I had the comic.
ReplyDeleteJLA/Avengers, full stop.
ReplyDeleteSo gay. SO gay.
ReplyDeleteDeron Williams has my favorite crossover; Iverson's was probably the best.
ReplyDeleteThere are a number of Baskin Robbins / Dunkin Donuts mashups in IL. You'd think that I'd indulge at every opportunity, given my love of ice cream and fat guy food in general. But, I have yet to set foot in one. I think it falls into the category of "oh, hell no. I'd have a fucking heart attack before leaving."
ReplyDeleteTim Hardaway
ReplyDeleteMan, how low down the manager totem pole are you if you're Jack Victory's valet? You're the valet for a guy who's most well known for being the valet for a mid-card tag-team!
ReplyDeleteUTEP two step!
ReplyDeleteAlso, the GMC Acadia.
ReplyDeleteWilliams has the best one of any current guys. I think Tim hard away had the best but AI had a nice one too.
ReplyDeleteYep. You know who else has a nice one? Mike Conley.
ReplyDeleteYessirrrrrrr
ReplyDeleteI thought the better crazy crossover was during a Family Guy opening they go to meet the new neighbors and it's Stan and his family. Then Roger pops out and of course Peters surprised to see an alien. Stan tells Peter he can't tell anyone and two seconds later Peter is calling Quagmire to tell him. Stan shoots Peter. Then Lois wakes up from her dream and from the bathroom out walks Hank Hill. I loved it because it was so batshit insane. By the way, they are doing a Family Guy/Simpsons crossover episode.
ReplyDeletei forgot about that one. good call
ReplyDeleteYeah, that was awesome and mind blowing as a kid. Too bad it didn't work as I still ended up smoking pot as a teenager.
ReplyDeleteWhen the ECW guys worked raw.
ReplyDeleteUltimo dragon coming to hog wild 96 to wrestle rey mysterio.
Probably my two favorite wrestling ones.
This is really going to date me but for television nothing in history has ever beat the Bob Newhart Show/Newhart crossover in the final minute of the last episode of Newhart. Un-fucking-believable.
ReplyDeleteLoved that!
ReplyDeleteThanks. I just found it. Yeah that's a PWUSA show.
ReplyDeleteThis, this, oh this. And speaking of MTM productions, any Xover they did on St. Elsewhere, cause it led to 90+% of the TV universe not existing.
ReplyDeleteYes they did one full-blown crossover, but on Vehicle Voltron, they'd drop little references to the Lion Team from time to time.
ReplyDeleteAnd to top it off, they introduce his brother in a later episode, so fortunately, World Events got away with saying he was Sven back for revenge. (However, HE dies too, so they have to cover up yet again...)
ReplyDeleteDidn't they do more episodes in America after they ran out of Golions, and had Sven appear on those? (NO I do not mean the 3D series in the '90s, um, yuck...)
I am one who liked both Voltrons, actually. Liked the one girl on the Sea Team.
Well at least you were able to keep one. I went through several when I was young.
ReplyDeleteSo Voltron II, aka the gladiators, eh? Then you'll love this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWYa7XC-mgA
Another bit of trivia: Golion was not supposed to be a Voltron. That honor would go to Daltanius, but there was miscommunication when they asked for the robot show with "the lion."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNV9qwguD1o
Was this back in the day? Cause I thought Jake Lloyd didn't go to conventions and didn't want anything to do with showbiz after that.
ReplyDeleteThat paperback was great, just finished reading it months ago.
ReplyDeleteCan we count when Joel guest starred on the 10th season opener of MST3K?
ReplyDeleteUrkel appearing on Full House.
ReplyDeleteHow about when they added Batman Beyond characters to Justice League Unlimited? And just a cameo, but I marked out for Phantasm showing up in that one season finale where they explain Terry's background. (Actually, the whole JL/JLU series was a big crossover between all the DCAU shows)
ReplyDeleteHow about Fonzie vs. Mork?
ReplyDeleteThat was fucking awesome. One day when I'm old and bored I'm going to start at Batman: TAS and go all the way through.
ReplyDeleteHillstreet, Remington Steele, motherfucking WKRP. MTM Productions really was an amazing powerhouse back in the day.
ReplyDeleteI dunno...I disagree. that's one time you hype the shit out of it. I know I got 2 friends who had already fallen back out of favor of pro wrestling come over that night just to watch the simulcast episode.
ReplyDeleteJamal Crawford's is murder.
ReplyDeleteI read a GREAT article on this years ago and I'll see if I can pull it. Apparently there were 12 robots to choose from and they paired it down to 4. They show the Lion version first then the Vehicle version. When the vehicle version didn't get the ratings they didn't release the 3rd on (called Albegas)
ReplyDeletePlease do find this article!
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