Monday, November 11, 2013

QOTD 60: Millitarily speaking.

So if you ask me, regardless of whether or not you think there's a need for war in our world, The military is fucking cool. MREs are cool, Apache Helicopters are cool, Navy Seals are cool, The fancy ass technology Darpa is developing is cool, that god damn crazy ass robot being made (also I think by Darpa?) is cool.

Hell, when my buddy joined the millitary, his two recruiters were the nicest folks in the world to me, despite the fact that if you tucked my arms and legs in you could probably bounce me like a ball.

Anyway, it's Veteran's Day today in America, and I know a few, so I figured we could talk about not only how grateful we are for our military veterans, but how fucking bad ass it is to be one.

What do you think is the coolest part of being in the Military? Have you served? What's a cool little fact folks may not know, that *You* know that you think we'd like to know? If you're not from America, feel free to jump in and tell us how it works in your country, you crazy Canuck you.



Second hand stories I've heard:

When training on landmines and such, I guess drill instructors told recruits that while the mines they were training on weren't live, they contained just enough explosive to like, wound or Mame a person's hand. This was a lie, but created a cool sense of urgency to the training. Neat!

There seems to be a good amount of gamesman ship between the Army, Marines, Air force, and Coast Guard. I guess the Army calls Marines "rocks with lips" and everyone gives the A.F crap for for getting to ride bikes during basic training. For some reason I think that's cool.

I guess a good way for a civilian to make money is to work at an on-base restaurant like Burger King or Subway, which I guess the Military sets up for troops. The funny thing is that when you're in Iraq, I guess you don't pay with actual money, instead using little paper money chips. Wild!

I'm a fat kid, so the technology behind MREs are pretty neat, too. for the uninformed it's essentially a self-heating meal. You pull out the food, shake up a little packet thingy, and boom, tasty warm mystery meat. I can't imagine it's fun to eat all the time in face of danger and possible death, but as a civilian, that shit was cool.

I think I got a 75 on my ASFAB when I took it, which I guess is decent. If I wasn't required to be physically fit, I'd join in an instant. 


1,616 comments:

  1. Your_Favourite_LoserNovember 11, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    'I figured we could talk about not only how grateful we are for our military veterans, but how fucking bad ass it is to be one.'


    no offense, but i think you're way over-romanticizing things. for example, i have an uncle who served in vietnam, and he won't talk about it. i really don't think he looks back on the time as bad ass.


    my cousin retired from the marines a few years ago, and while he certainly has tons of funny stories about all the people he encountered, during his retirement ceremony, he made sure to stop and say, 'i started out on this journey with a lot of people who aren't here anymore, so i'd like to take a moment to remember them" so i don't think he has the view that being a vet is some kick-ass thing.



    so yeah, might wanna tone it down a bit.

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  2. I understand. I for sure have much reverence for the toll serving one's country can take on a person's psyche and how draining and it be to a person's spirit, but I figured since I've never served I didn't really have the authority to kind of be like "Lets somberly talk about The Military". But I hear what you're saying.

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  3. Dude, there was absolutely nothing wrong with your post -- I have nothing but the utmost respect for those who've served -- War is a horrible thing and I'm grateful that I've never had to experience it firsthand but the good folks brave enough to sacrifice all so our favorite loser can misguidedly disagree with you are pretty kick-ass in my opinion

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  4. Watching The Longest Day right now actually. Such a great movie with an amazing cast, so many great actors in it. It's probably tied with Saving Private Ryan as my favorite WW2 movie. I enjoy a good war movie. Sub topic: favorite war movies?

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  5. I like Jar Head, Saving Private Ryan, The Men who Stare at Goats, and Three Kings.

    Three Kings is probably my favorite of all time.

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  6. Mres are disgusting. The technology and nutritional values are cool information if youre into that stuff but taste wise pretty bad. The one thing people probably dont know is deployment lengths. Army goes up to 18 months at a time, air force and marines up to six months no clue about navy

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  7. Big Red One -- Lee Marvin (I challenge you to show me a more believable bad-ass actor, Mark Hamill (in the middle of being Luke Skywalker), Robert Carradine (pre-Nerds) -- Blackhawk Down -- Band of Brothers, The Pacific -- The old Combat TV show -- MASH movie -- Dirty Dozen -- Kelly's Heroes...

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  8. US Marine Corps infantry from 2003 to 2007, deployed to Iraq. Lost several good friends in the fight(s). I'm a firefighter now and, while the comeraderie is comparable on some levels, I am thoroughly convinced that there is nothing like the relationships and experiences of a grunt unit. We have a fanatical loyalty to each other that doesn't end when we get out, but most of us don't romanticize the things we've done. There are people who have been to combat and there are FAR far more who have not. I don't mean to put the combat side of the house up on a pedestal (well, maybe I do a little), but I think it's important to understand that there are different "echelons" of people's experiences. The dude who spent his formative years in Korea and Vietnam as an infantryman has a totally different experience than the guy who rode a desk during the wars.


    As for something most people don't know? The more a person advertises the things they did on deployment, the more skeptical you should be. The guys who were really no-shit in the fight are not likely to discuss it openly, aside from with their peers. The guy who brags about the shit he did, probably didn't do it or is at least exaggerating. These are the guys whose punk cards we love to pull, when you catch em in the act. It's not about feeling superiority, it's about keeping people in check because there are so many of our peers who HAVE been in the real deal and many who did not come back. I love that people show respect to vets, but hate that there are those who take advantage of that respect.

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  9. Absolutely right. As a combat Marine myself, I can vouch for that attitude whole-heartedly. We make it so much about taking care of each other that when we lose them, that's all that matters. The guys who brag about combat like it's a video game probably never actually experienced it. The ones who were really out in the fight don't see it as glamorous and have probably lost a great deal along the way to erase that "kick-ass" image.


    "It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we might grow too fond of it"

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  10. My friend Eric I knew since before high school (he was one of the guys I carried the canoe with in my story yesterday) joined the Marines at 19. Great guy with a good heart. We kept in touch a little but not much as it was hard to contact him at times. About five years later he shows up at my house and I'm super psyched to see him. After I say hi he starts struggling and I realize something's off. He had a really bad stroke.

    Of course it was never said by them but everybody believes he had the stroke due to the drugs you have to take overseas. The military even kinda admitted to it by giving him a pretty big check. It was heartbreaking to see him like this though, before he talked a lot but now he had trouble saying two words together. He also had some motor skill problems.

    We hung out a lot the next year and a half, helping each other (this was soon after I started going downhill with my spinal problems). It sucked seeing him get so frustrated at trying to talk and get his message across. The real frustrating thing was people who were his friends wanted nothing to do with him now and avoided him like the plague. I could see that hurt him too.

    He really stuck with the therapy and worked his ass off. Now you can kinda tell his speech isn't 100% but he's leaps and bounds better. He moved away after a couple of years but we still keep in touch regularly. Now the guy enters bodybuilding competitions. I have the utmost respect for him.

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  11. Yeah, my close friend who was in the military didn't ever really talk about about any of the combat stuff he did. He was a Combat Medic which I guess can be pretty brutal. He enjoyed telling us about all the little idiosyncrasies, which I found fascinating.

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  12. I'm sure they're gross after you get over the "What is this sorcery?!" part.

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  13. Tremendous. It can be a long road back and it's great that he had the support of friends. Not everyone has that and it's crushing to see dudes survive the shit overseas only to come back and break here at home. I've seen too much of it and battled it myself for about 4 years.

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  14. Honestly, an underrated one is Enemy at the Gates with Jude Law and Ed Harris. Sniper warfare!

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  15. That's kind of based on a true story, too, right?

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  16. Yes indeed. I have utmost respect for the Medics (Army) and Corpsmen (Navy). Many of those guys end up seeing all the worst of it and are often in a position where they can only do so much in the field. They often end up carrying a tough burden afterward. My Corpsman was every bit as much family as the other Marines in my unit and he's still a dear friend. The Medics/Corpsmen sign up for a job every bit as difficult as the infantry.

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  17. My grandfathers served on opposite sides during World War 2 (American and Italian). I'm plenty of people had grandfathers who did the same, but I always found it to be a fascinating little tidbit.


    Everyone after my grandfathers became Dead Heads (as in, hardcore Grateful Dead fans).

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  18. I'm not anywhere near qualified to offer an opinion on the cause of your friend's stroke but I will weigh in on your statement about the people who were his "friends" avoiding him like the plague -- They were never friends to begin with -- You are his friend...

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  19. First off, thanks. On the bragging thing, my friend Eric I mentioned above, he would openly talk about the funny stories and training stories. But his combat stories came few and far between and I knew he had seen combat. And when he talked about it, it was never in a bragging tone. More like getting it off his chest or just telling what happend. I never pushed him to tell me anything. Although a couple of people did try to push to get him to tell them "cool" combat stories. I saw that made him uncomfortable.

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  20. The sorcery comes in when you get lucky and get this candy called charms. It immedeatly rains after youre done eating it

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  21. Totally. lol. The stuff we actually talk a lot about is exactly that. The hilarious, often ridiculous stuff that went on. I don't know if it's part coping mechanism or if it's just that the stuff was really THAT outlandish, but holy shit there are some funny story. Funny you mention it because I'm about to go to a Veterans Day dinner with some peers....and I'm sure it's gonna be a night of exactly those kinds of ridiculous stories.

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  22. Your_Favourite_LoserNovember 11, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    just... wow. completely unnecessary to wrap all of that up just to take a shot at me

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  23. I'm a Skittles man myself. Many a trade was decided by Skittles-based MREs.

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  24. Sweet another conversation about Bryan's push!

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  25. I think the only time my friend even told a combat story was a time he accidently called in a Motar (I think) or someone else called in a Motar on his location and he was like one block away from being hit or something. It was crazy.

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  26. The six months following WrestleMania XIV proved Austin wasn't a flash-in-the-pan. Unforgiven did a good buyrate (.85). Over the Edge was a disappointment (.58), but it was up against Indiana vs. Chicago in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals. King of the Ring did a good buyrate (.85). Fully Loaded was good (.90). SummerSlam '98 has the most buys in SummerSlam history (700,000 buys; 1.63 buyrate). Breakdown did a .86 buyrate. These were all much higher than what the WWF was doing in 1997.

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  27. Gentlemen, gentlemen, lets just agree that no one is wrong, and I'm the most right.

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  28. Your_Favourite_LoserNovember 11, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    let's not argue over who forgot to pick up who from soccer practice and just agree that we're both wrong!

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  29. What's the closest thing they could do like WrestleMania 21 where they basically created 2 new #1 guys in one night, like they did with Cena and Batisita? Cena wins the WWE Title and Batista goes of HHH clean as a sheet?


    Punk/Orton where Punk wins the WWE title and Bryan/HHH where Bryan goes over clean as a sheet?

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  30. That's a simpsons reference right?

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  31. Nothing personal man -- You have an opinion regarding Meekin's post and I have an opinion on yours -- There's really nothing "wow" about it -- We're adults here...

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  32. Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!

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  33. Your_Favourite_LoserNovember 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    them's fightin' words!

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  34. Now this is a quality film reference.

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  35. Your_Favourite_LoserNovember 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    'We're adults here."


    we're? as in, including me? an adult? YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!

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  36. The military is a necessary evil. I'm not much for all the romanticizing it. It's a tough job and there are people that do it. All I got. Thanks, I guess

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  37. Your_Favourite_LoserNovember 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    yessir

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  38. That's what I told him and told him to just say "fuck em" but I could see it still hurt him. Esspecially when it kept happening one after the other when he first got back. It was hard to understand him, yes, but you make that effort.

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  39. Your_Favourite_LoserNovember 11, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    nyah nyah, i wasn't gonna give it back anyway!!!

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  40. You obviously did not see the concrete brick throwing robot.

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  41. Just wait until the live thread!

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  42. I like how this played out...and went.

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  43. Not a big fan of killing machines.

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  44. I was kind of hoping we could find out who everyone thinks is an A+

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  45. Yeah it really does suck the shit they go through even after returning home. The big fear with my friend was, while he was in the Marines he had become an alcoholic but kicked it a couple of years before the stroke, so his parents and me feared he would go back down that route. He never did though and we went to bars too but he never ordered anything more than a soda.

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  46. i would say Punk/Cena Bryan/HHH... but the fact that all of these combinations seem SO absurd shows you how much things have changed in less than a decade.

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  47. Methinks you means "mortar" -- Motar was a Space Ghost villain wasn't he? (And if not, he should have been!)...

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  48. That would be correct.

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  49. I can't believe they wouldn't do Cena/Undertaker.

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  50. You obviously haven't seen the singing Marine!

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  51. Understood, that's too bad -- Sounds like he's doing just fine now -- Despite the whole bodybuilder thing :-)

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  52. He's a marine, who sings!

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  53. Nope. Punk's already (more or less there), and going over HHH has only ever worked once (Batista) in terms of making a star, and there's a reason for that. For it to be two stars, the way I'd say they have to do it is have Ziggler (there's nobody else who really has the minimum amount of fan love yet) win the Rumble and go clean over Cena (face vs. face, HBK/Bret circa Mania 12 kinda dynamic), and have Bryan go forty-five minutes against HBK and make him tap in a total show-stealer. If they can figure out a way to get the belt onto HBK first (Show beats Orton, HHH brings in HBK (who beats Show) as a "good for business" champ who can win without needing HHH to rig/reverse all his matches) so much the better, but it isn't strictly necessary.


    The other option, of course, is somebody breaking the Streak but this isn't the year for that and there's nobody who's both ready and could use the rub.

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  54. That would make sense

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  55. I thought we were just talking hypothetically not like something they might actually do.

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  56. Well pre-show news


    Big Show is limping but going to work through it


    Triple H and Stephanie are "on vacation" and are not supposed to appear

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  57. You have no idea how much that means!

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  58. No the following Sunday

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  59. Of course the show is pre-taped from England

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  60. I would tell you "you're welcome" but I'm still trying to figure out why you halfheartedly said thanks -- But then again, I never was the sharpest knife in the drawer...

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  61. Cause I'm attempting to be nice.

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  62. So who will the WWE blame when fans don't want to pay for two main matches, one which was an undercard match at the PPV after Wrestlemania, and the other we just saw last month and the result will be the same?

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  63. oh shit this is a taped Raw? Terrible

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  64. At least it should have a hot England crowd.

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  65. The Survivor Series match itself isn't a draw. Even if it's a huge, blockbuster match nobody's buying because the title matches are duds.



    I don't see good things for the buyrate. They didn't even give their #1 draw (Cena) a feud to sink his teeth into. He's just going to rise above Del Rio and nobody's going to care. Big Show should be fighting HHH instead of Orton.



    This could/should be the lowest big 4 PPV buyrate ever.

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  66. Re Survivor Series: That PPV falls on the same night as Broncos vs. Patriots. Good luck getting...anyone to show up.

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  67. Didn't realize this was taped... not that it matters much, but it does say a lot that it was pre-recorded and no one here even seemed to know, let alone spoil.

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  68. The London crowd chants "Mr. Bean" at Zeb.


    There. I just saved you three hours. Enjoy your free time!

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  69. Yeah but WWE might tweak the sound to get the reaction they want.

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  70. I avoided spoilers myself, aside from the no HHH and Stephanie thing but thats all over wwe.com and there twitter feed anyway.

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  71. Oops, but it is in Manchester . . .

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  72. My own attempts at the same thing have been met with varying degrees of failure -- Hope it works out better for you...

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  73. They only tweak if there is little to no reaction or profanity as far as I've seen.

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  74. "London, Manchester... they still have crooked teeth and drive on the wrong side of the road."
    "WILL YOU STOP?!"

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  75. It's hit and miss as some days are better than others.

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  76. My buddy was in the AF. He said he usually always got pissed tested when he came back from any kind of leave. I always found this hilarious. That's all I got

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  77. Had a great uncle serve in the German Army during WWII as a driver for an officer in the SS -- He deserted -- I've always been pretty proud of that fact...

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  78. Raw sounds terrible. Yeesh.

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  79. But no triple h and stephanie . . .

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  80. Lol. I accidentally posted a comment.

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  81. Dark Match seemed interesting, Wade Barrett beat Sandow with special appearance of Regal as Ring Announcer

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  82. I'm happy that there are guys who would, if we were to be invaded by a foreign power, stand between my family and the invaders. I respect anyone that takes that position.
    That's all that I have to say on military.

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  83. If there was anything else on tv I'd watch it instead of what looks to be a bad Raw. I don't want to watch an 0-7 team and listen about Richie Incognito for 3 hours.

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  84. WWE needs to sign Incognito if he really is done with the NFL. Of course they change his name to "Gregory Smalls" and make him drop weight first.

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  85. Vince would LOVE Incognito

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  86. Nah TNA will sign him and team him up with Pacman

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  87. It is pretty brutal watching these uptight white NFL broadcasters say "n word" 3,000 times.

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  88. Ha yea. Phil Simms kept stuttering about it yesterday. He sounded so dorky

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  89. We pay tribute to America's veterans. From England. Because....logic.


    -WWE

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  90. I hate to sound like cultstatus or Dougie... but it will be amusing around here is Survivor Series does a good buyrate.

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  91. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1NUposXVQ

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  92. You are probably right. That doesn't change whether or not I'll like the event. If it's good, I will. If it's not, I won't...relative to my own taste.

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  93. Yeah, people will lose their shit if Big Show ends up being a bigger draw than Bryan.

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  94. How Zen of you

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  95. Not watching, but I'm tuning into the BOD to see what the commentary's like, and what parallax has to say about nailing unhappy wives.

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  96. I have moments. Remember, I never really cared for Austin; I sided with Bret.

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  97. Number


    One



    Draw

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  98. Well, at least we'd be proven right or wrong, one way or another. I think this is going to be a pretty good indicator/experiment of certain people's drawing power and creative's effectiveness

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  99. Besides Show/Orton and Cena/Del Rio, has anything else been announced for the Survivor Series?

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  100. :: pats you on the head::


    Of course you are.

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  101. A shitty buyrate?

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  102. They should do like in the past and have no one in charge, just guys attacking and challenging each other.

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  103. A giant egg will hatch!

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  104. I don't think whether they are happy or not has anything to do with it.

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  105. Turning on Raw Cris Carter is fucking racist.

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  106. I'll say this much, it's less stressful on my machine than Vinson's gifs, though those were awesome.

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  107. It's only cool if Mean Gene dances around the ring with whatever hatches

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  108. It helps if they are unhappy... I don't want to have to WORK for it

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  109. If Show popped out in a giant diaper, I would be willing to overlook him in the main event.

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  110. Why bother announcing anything else with those red hot programs on top?

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  111. I hate taped Raws, because live thread attendance is at an all-time low, and I strangely look forward to reading everyone's opinions and jokes here.


    I've yet to decide whether this is sad or not.

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  112. I like the way it is now, you can click on it if you want, but it doesn't kill the thread.

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  113. Just his general attitude, he just exudes it.

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  114. Our disappointment.

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  115. eh, I always find it more fun when women are unhappy with someone else and you get the benefits. Women on the rebound are best RIGHT on the rebound.

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  116. As long as it leads to me getting laid I am cool... the appeal isn't that they are married... I just find them easier to close, and easier to deal with afterwards

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  117. Yes. It is. And it's not. All at once.

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  118. Is it really fair to say Triple H and Stephanie are on vacation when they are in the UK?

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  119. He is a recovering alcoholic and is the definition of the term "Dry drunk."

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  120. yeah, same here. It doesn't crash my disqus and I get to look at pwretty ladies.

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  121. Did Brad Maddox just get a pop?


    Fucking Brits!

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  122. "This guy gets it" - Former #1 draw at the BoD

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  123. Favorite Carter memory: Him and Moss sulking like bitches in the NFC title game vs the Giants

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  124. Shouldn't Kane get a new Corporate Theme?

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  125. Its not. I honestly barely switch over to the tab that I have my legitimate TV channel on and just listen and read here.

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  126. AWESOME! ANOTHER AUTHORITY FIGURE POSITION!

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  127. How many more authority figures do we need?

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  128. I really wish he'd be wearing a mask with the suit.

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  129. Kane looks dapper.

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  130. let me guess... once you're tired of em, you just start doing everything they complain about their husbands doing, so they leave?

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  131. He seems to be playing face here

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  132. So I just shaved into the Hogan-esque pornstache for Movember. Anyone else doing it?

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  133. Goddamn it brits...wrong usage of YES.

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  134. Yay! MOAR Authority figures and the corporate ladder echelon gets even more confusing.

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  135. I sure hope there's management intrigue.

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  136. and just like that, another authority figure appears.

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  137. Three way fueding authority figures, awesome!

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  138. Here comes Vickie! Smell the RATINGS!!!!!

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  139. What's the consensus on spoilers? NOT posting them here but reading before hand? Skimmed them, my viewing's been fragmented lately anyway so it's not really going to change my viewing

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  140. If I were Brad I wouldn't argue with Kane. The man electrocuted a man's testicles once.

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  141. No. Generally the husband finds out and they reconcile/divorce, or they just get tired of it when the thrill wears off and go back to being a soccer mom (even if they are not a mom but you get my meaning)

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  142. Every wrestling promotion ever...STOP WITH AUTHORITY FIGURE STORYLINES

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  143. This has to be a record for most authority figure characters active at once

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  144. So what's your response when the husband finds out about you? Do you just point to the woman and say 'hey, if I hadn't fucked her, someone else would have'?

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  145. So Vickie & Brad are now babyfaces for the night because....

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  146. Have I been going crazy or has Vickie been making mostly face-like decisions the last couple of months?

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  147. They usually take it out on the woman. I have never really had to deal with an angry husband beyond a REALLY MEAN LOOK when one of them saw me.

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  148. So...Vicki trumps Maddox and Corp Kane. For now. At this moment. Tomorrow...who dafuq knows? We're TELLING STORIES!

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  149. (Note: Mean face did NOT unfuck his wife)

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  150. I feel like COdy and Dustin probably weren't close until recently and they are doing some serious bonding, cool to see.

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  151. I'd need another close up of his face but the weird part is it looks like he's wearing his contacts

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  152. But they still have her do the Excuse Me bit

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  153. Our fans are to dumb to know any better. Signed, WWE

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  154. Remember all those times Bret had to wrestle Money Inc or the Quebecers, or when Savage had to face Demolition? Oh yeah, they didn't because it's a dumb idea.

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  155. He is, which is ridiculous.

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  156. CAPS PARTIV: THE FINAL CHAPTERNovember 11, 2013 at 6:14 PM

    FUCK YEA, CAPS IN DA HOUSE

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  157. CAPS PARTIV: THE FINAL CHAPTERNovember 11, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    "LIKE" FOR A HOLLA

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  158. Boy I'm glad I'm not watching right now.

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  159. Nah, hence the "NOT posting them" bit, just curious if curiosity gets to anyone else but me

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  160. CAPS PARTIV: THE FINAL CHAPTERNovember 11, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    WTF MAN

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  161. Are you getting banned for some reason? What's with the new accounts?

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  162. holla at your boy

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  163. CAPS PARTIV: THE FINAL CHAPTERNovember 11, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    HOLLA TO WHITE THUNDER. DOWN TO EARTH MOFO. Y'ALL SHIIIIIIET

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  164. Come home in the middle of the afternoon...

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  165. Oh my god - this multi authority figure thing is brutal.

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  166. CAPS PARTIV: THE FINAL CHAPTERNovember 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    HOLLA TO JEREMY RINEHART. THAT'S A REALLY KEWL NAME, MAN. MUST GET MAD PUSSY

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  167. CAPS PARTIV: THE FINAL CHAPTERNovember 11, 2013 at 6:17 PM

    HOLLA TO THE ROTTENPENGUIN. YO STAY CLASSY, MAN

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  168. I love being able to hear the accents in the crowd's chant.

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  169. The CAPS are legion.

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  170. Sometimes something so evil goes through my mind that I don't want to say it... but I just can' help myself.

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  171. You do remember how many guns I have in my home, right? Not to mention the 5 dogs, including one pit bull. And, my wife could probably kick your ass on her own.


    So, you know. Tap it if you can, bro. :-)

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  172. No Dana Brody last night!!!

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  173. CAPS PARTIV: THE FINAL CHAPTERNovember 11, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    NAH MAN, I'M JUST A SEQUEL. THAT'S ALL

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  174. Completely off topic - but probably more interesting than whatever WWE has on at the moment - did anyone else start hearing the old-school Bossman theme when they heard the Braves were moving to Cobb County?

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  175. I never thought I'd say this, but I'll gladly take the computer back over the tandem of Vickie, Maddox, Kane, Steph, and Triple H.

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