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WWF Championship Wrestling: May 11th, 1985

May 11, 1985

Your hosts are Bruno Sammartino and Vince McMahon

In action tonight are Tito Santana & Junkyard Dog & Pedro Morales, who is making his return to the WWF, in six-man tag action. Plus, Ken Patera and Jesse Ventura.


Barry O. & Jim Haley vs. Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo

Rotundo gets the best of Barry O. in a brief fast-paced sequence before tagging out. Haley messed up the timing off a Thesz Press and that legit pissed off Windham, who stiffed him with a forearm smash. Powerslam gets two. Rotundo tags and works the arm of Haley. The ex-champs take turns beating on Haley until Rotundo gets him up for the Airplane Spin and gets the win (3:30).

Thoughts: The former champs were wrestling aggressively tonight as they are pissed over losing the belts at WrestleMania. Once again, Albano was not with Windham & Rotundo.


WWF Update with Lord Alfred Hayes. This week’s focus is on the British Bulldogs as we see a clip of them in a TV squash. Hayes puts them over for their innovative offense and says perhaps they could take the titles away from the Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff.



“Judo” Joe Black vs. Ken Patera w/Bobby Heenan

Black is dressed in a gi and leads the crowd in a “weasel” chant. He also uses various martial arts poses. Patera grabs a front facelock then works the arm. Black tries to use “judo” moves but just ends up getting tossed around. After some stomps and turnbuckle smashes, which all looked horrible, Patera slams him off the top rope then drops the elbow for the win (1:45).

Thoughts: I have no idea who Black was and he might have been the single worst wrestler I have seen but this match was so bad it actually came off as entertaining. Even the announcers were ragging on "Judo Joe." Anyway, here is a link to the match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEZgvid1ckk


Gene Okerlund welcomes Tito Santana, who will be facing Brutus Beefcake at the Boston Garden on May 18th. Tito compares Brutus “Fruitcake” to a combination of Gomer Pyle and a “fruit” before wishing a happy Mother’s Day to all of the mothers.


Aldo Marino vs. Jesse “The Body” Ventura

Before the match, Jesse points at Bruno. After some stalling, Jesse backs Marino to the ropes then knocks him down with a cheap shot. Jesse overpowers Marino, stopping to taunt Bruno, then puts him away with the Bodybreaker (2:35). After the match, Jesse continues to taunt Bruno, who is now standing up and pointing at Jesse. The fans are going nuts for Bruno.

Thoughts: They are looking to set up a feud between Jesse and Bruno in a battle between color commentators. Jesse wasnt much at all in the ring.


Okerlund is with the Junkyard Dog. Speaking of Okerlund, he is tanned to the point that it looks like he is wearing blackface. He then tries to teach JYD the Boston accent. JYD gets upset when Okerlund breaks up Jimmy Hart, who JYD refers to as “mouse.” JYD plays up his relationship with Tito during the interview and it is inevitable that they will be feuding against Greg Valentine and Brutus Beefcake.


Brutus Beefcake & Greg Valentine w/Jimmy Hart & Johnny Valiant vs. Paul Roma & S.D. Jones

S.D. headbutts the heels before putting Valentine in a headlock. Beefcake interferes behind the referee’s back then tags in and beats on S.D. Valentine roughs him up too but S.D. rolls away from a pair of elbow drops and tags Roma, who promptly gets destroyed. Beefcake hits Roma with the running knee lift then tags Valentine, who makes him submit to the figure four (3:25).

Thoughts: Beefcake and Valentine looked good here and are starting to gel as a team.


Piper’s Pit with guest Ricky Steamboat. Piper brings up how the women are calling Ricky a heartthrob but then says that he is much better looking according to the ladies. He also calls Steamboat a cheater for using martial arts in his matches. Steamboat pisses off Piper by calling him “Rodney” and this ends in a stand off.


Mad Maxine w/Fabulous Moolah vs. Desiree Peterson

Maxine bails after Peterson hits a few armdrags. Maxine boots her down then overpowers her. Her offense looks bad but she does look the part as the was legitimately 6'2 and dressed like a punk rocker, complete with a mohawk. She hits a leg drop then works a headscissors. Slam gets two. Then, in one of the worst sequences you will ever see, Desiree hits Maxine with a dropkick and off the rebound takes her over with a monkey flip. Maxine had no clue as to where she was supposed to be. Maxine slams her down then hits a suplex for the win (2:57). After the match, Moolah attacks Peterson.

Thoughts: Maxine would be gone just as soon as she appeared. She was being groomed for a feud with Wendi Richter. She had a great look but was horrendous in the ring. She went on to the AWA then quit the business a few years after that and now apparently works as a journalist.



WWF Magazine Plug


Mike Powers & Doc Butler & Johnny Rodz vs. Tito Santana & Junkyard Dog & Pedro Morales

Rodz chops Pedro against the ropes to start. They go back-and-forth for a bit until Morales tags Tito. The faces then all take turns beating on Rodz until Morales gets trapped in the wrong corner. The match completely breaks down and Powers ends up landing right on his head after being thrown into the ring then submits to a Boston crab applied by Morales (4:17). After the match, the heels attempt to attack the faces as they dance but get chased away.

Thoughts: Pedro didnt really fit in the WWF at this time. He was old and part of the crew that Vince Sr. pushed that was being kicked to the curb at this time.


Okerlund is with Bob Orton, who is plugging his tag match with Piper against Hogan & Snuka. He makes a point that they cannot lose since Orndorff is no longer part of their team. After that, Luscious Johnny Valiant and Brutus Beefcake come out and run down Tito. Valiant thinks Tito belongs in a psychiatric unit then mocks Hillbilly Jim with a stereotypical hillbilly voice.


Next week, we will see a special episode of “Piper’s Pit” from the Nassau Coliseum. It was actually the installment that took place at the debut episode of "Saturday's Night Main Event," which aired on the same day as this show. Oddly enough, that show was not promoted on this episode at all, or even on the TNT show from the prior day.


Final Thoughts: Not much of a show this week. The Judo Joe match was so bad it has to be seen though and it did contain a rare TV appearance rom Mad Maxine but not much of note happenend other than that.



Comments

  1. There is a whole chapter dedicated to what Roddy feels is "The Sickness" and it really is truly enlightening and makes this whole kit and kaboodle worth the purchase.

    In all seriousness, track the book down in your local library. It is fun, a little disappointing, but, ultimately, not worth purchase. But still fun.

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  2. I believe I mention "The Sickness" in the review. The best part of the book.

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  3. Bless that man and his endearing obnoxiousness. Never has a man so annoying been so lovable.

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  4. Are you talking about Piper or Cucch?

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  5. Im going to go out on a limb and say this was your best review yet.


    Good luck on recovery.


    Good luck on your new job.


    Good luck getting the girl.


    And go make your money. The BoD will more than likely be here when you return. I'll be turning off the lights in this place if it ever closes shop.

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  6. How long do you have to stretch before you can suck your own dick Fuj?

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  7. I swear to Yahweh this gimmick poster shit just has to stop. We get it, you think you're hot shit. Guess what Fuj? Because of you we got drunk Murphy, porn-peddling Jeff Vinson, and that fucking misogynist Parallex1978, and all the other fucking goons who think that being a gimmick poster on a fucking wrestling blog makes them cool.


    Seriously, quit this lame American Dad crap, stop sucking your own dick, and go back to being an intelligent, (somewhat) eloquent wrestling guy. Tell me about how Ric Flair did the exact same shit Triple H is trying to do currently in an attempt to get Magnum TA over as the top babyface in JCP. Do that, not this.

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  8. its been a while since we had a meltdown, I love it.

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  9. I think once it was decided that Austin was going to be THE guy, there was no one who could stop that from happening, not even Shawn. IIRC, the plan was for Shawn to turn face after WrestleMania and feud with Trips after HHH kicked him out of DX for losing to Austin.

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  10. I wouldn't take it personally, Phred has wicked mood swings.

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  11. trust me, i'm not. everybody is entitled to their opinion.

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  12. People are just having a little fun. Wrestling still gets plenty of space to be discussed with deadly seriousness around here, if you haven't noticed.

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  13. Yea, I rremember that. I dont doubt for a second Austin becones the top guy, jusr curious on how it effects everyone else. Shawn was such a vortex of opinionated passion/destruction in those days

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  14. Some people around here, wont mention names, remind me SO much of the comic book store guy from the Simpsons. Rigid, will nit pick ANY slight technalicity even if its not relevant, and hate fun/personality.

    I was called "dumb" yesterday because I didnt know HHH had two daughters instead of sons. To funny to me

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  15. I think his point was that you stated this book was worth the purchase, and then gave it your "highest recommendation," but then two paragraphs later said it was disappointing and not worth purchasing.

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  16. Upvoted just for the meltdown. First meltdown ive see here. Thanks.

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  17. FWIW, honestly, I had for the past year or more pegged you as "That guy whose gimmick is that he's always really needlessly contrary and kind of a buzzkill. Sort of like Dougie, but without his knack for droll one-liners and annoyingly good points". I didn't realise it wasn't intended as a gimmick but your personality, and apologise for misunderstanding you.

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  18. Shawn STILL tried to do Shawn things in the lead-up to WM14. As I recall is being reported somewhere, Shawn was being a complete bitch the day of the event and it took Undertaker threatening to beat the shit out of him to get him to the job.

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  19. If HBK doesn't get hurt, he has a total blowup with Vince at some point before summer slam and ends up released. He goes to wcw where his perceived inevitable showdown with Bret draws interest back to the product and away from wwf. Of course, wcw can't get all the egos together and it that never actually happens but wcw remains relevant a little while longer.

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  20. Seconded. Good luck on this shit. Having dabbled with everything under the sun, its a fine line to walk between addiction and recreational use. Hope it works out, as much as you like the BoD, its most important to keep yourself clean, emplyed, yadda yadda. We aint mad at cha

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  21. Good points. HBK was such a vortex of of passion/destruction those days, there is no doubt in my mind there are massive changes in 98-99 if he had been around

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  22. Shawn eventually gets fired for multiple drug issues, goes to WCW and ends up OD'ing with Scott Hall. WWF continues as is with WCW getting neutered by AOL/TW sooner because deaths of high profile wrestlers makes for bad corporate politics.

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  23. Homeland would be better if:
    1, Dana just died already
    2. They had scenes of Brody fuckign shit up and taking names when on the run. Like a bad ass one man A-Team

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  24. We mentioned this a bit in the "Shawn joins the NWO" thread:


    Shawn not needing to retire, does that make his drug problem worse? Does he become the most famous death in wrestling sooner or later? Is he Eddie Guerrero three-five years before Eddie died? Cleans up just enough to be "good", but not soon enough to overcome the years of prior abuse?


    The positive: Not being around Hall or Nash, being around HHH, who everyone admits was NOT a druggie. (Future?) Steroid use notwithstanding. There are more, I just can't think of them now...


    The negative: Stress/Depression from no longer being a tippy-top guy, being shunted down the card slowly into the upper-card/occassional main-eventer status. Never having the time (or the reasons) to get clean, until too late? Arrogance from being the one to "get rid of Bret"., especially if WCW still misuses him like they did?




    Ignoring the drug implications, Shawn w/o retirement never gets into that "Mount Perpetually Over" status that his forced retirement/comeback story pushed him into. He's not out of place in the Attitude Era, but his act grows stale much faster than anyone else's does.


    And while he's capable of putting on great matches with almost anyone, unless he makes it to 2000-01 he won't have guys who can match him on a regular basis. Also... HHH turns on HBK, they feud over DX... then what? Shawn's gonna feel out of place in the upper card, especially if that feud falls in HHH's favor (possible, but no better than 50/50 chance IMO).

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  25. I thought they were originally keeping Dana around because Broady would eventually reach out to her. The storyline direction theyre going has nothing to do with Broady. I guess my question is...is he done as a character?

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  26. I honestly believe he goes to WCW because he becomes to much of a locker room cancer with no Clique to back him up.

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  27. Other than Hall and Nash?

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  28. No Kliq in WWF that is, my bad for not explaining that part.

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  29. They're not in the WWF at this point. All he has is HHH (pre-Steph, pre-main event) and Waltman down the road (injured, junior member anyway).

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  30. Lol. The name change got a good laugh out of me. Your move Satan

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  31. He can;t do much since he is out the country and most people think he's a terrorist. He needs to be in a sideplot, maybe in Iran or something, tryign to find out what happended.

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  32. Shawn WAS a hot pile of mess before his real comeback. He had sporadic appearances in the WWE that always ended with him getting sent home. Wasn't it WM 15 that he got sent home from because he was in no condition to do his work?

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  33. Ran out of Roger references?

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  34. I had to get rid of the lame American Dad crap.


    I have to please my fans.

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  35. 17 I think. He was supposed to do a run in for HHH taker

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  36. WM 17, he was supposed to ref UT/HHH IIRC.

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  37. No... this is more of a silent FU...

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  38. Ha. Yea I saw. Love a good meltdown

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  39. You spelled my name wrong

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  40. Got it. Thanks. But yeah, he wasn't in a good place. Being 2nd fiddle to Austin wouldn't have helped.

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  41. #1 draw huh?


    tee-hee...

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  42. I did seem to get the most wrath of any of the people he mentioned...

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  43. I wanted to put this on the side, because it might be a little too impersonal/cold-hearted in comparison to the above.


    If Shawn never gets injured, how many classic matches does he add to the resume? Austin at WM13 (Which was good, even with the injury)? The eventual HBK/HHH match(es)? HBK/X-Pac? That's the one area where the longer he stays, the better his record looks. And if, by some chance, he avoids the worst possible scenarios... HBK/Radicalz? HBK/Jericho? HBK/Rock?



    The possibilities are not endless, but definitely high.

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  44. All this stuff fascinates me. Stuff like what if rock never leacves what if hogan never turns nwo is interesting but Im pretty sure I know what happens in those cases. Shawn was such an eratic destructive insanely talented guy at this point, I have ZERO idea what happens here. Anything from "he falls in line" to dougies scenario below I feel is plausible.

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  45. Completely agree

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  46. Should have said that your Roger stuff was BEST FOR BUSINESS. If that doesn't shut them up, (BLEEP) them.

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  47. I guess. Hes to good to write off but I just dont see a place for him. I was thinking that Dana moving out is the first step in just writing off the entore broady clan. Im fucking loving the Saul stuff this year

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  48. you mean besides me of course.


    i will admit, you're over... but you still got your name wrong.


    He basically Jericho'ed you...

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  49. "but you still got your name wrong"


    I did? Is this from your Warrior coked out promo phase?

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  50. Haha. This killed me for some reason

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  51. you know what i meant carnsarnit

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  52. I can do comedy or serious. I am the whole package.

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  53. WHOA! Watch that language! This is the PG era at the BoD! (which means Vinson would have to retire)

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  54. i gotta keep with my old man "gimmick"... wait sorry, im super.. duper... cereal now.


    *mouth breath*

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  55. GET OFF MY LAWN!

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  56. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

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  57. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 7:03 AM

    He asked to be let out of his contract, but Vince wasn't going to let him go (according to his book)

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  58. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 7:04 AM

    I thought the "Ricky Spanish" one was fitting.

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  59. Is Homeland a good show? I've heard the 1st season is really good, but not much since.

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  60. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 7:11 AM

    "...porn-peddling Jeff Vinson."
    I beg your pardon?
    That extra hour of sleep got you all kinds of fucked up this morning, don't it?
    *goes back to the sweet confines of the 'you're welcome' thread.*

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  61. Charismatic e-Negro Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM

    Nah, I'll start posting pictures of Moolah and Mae Young.

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  62. never read his book, but i heard it was full of bullish...


    not saying that part aint true, just generally speakin

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  63. Season 1 is in the pantheon of great tv series years, IMO. Season 2 and 3 have fallen off some but still a great watch. If you can, rent season 1. Its only 12 seasons and youll enjoy every minute

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  64. I seem to recall that Taker was TAPING HIS FISTS!!!

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  65. Christ you are all getting this wrong.


    The correct answer to "How long do you have to stretch before you can suck your own dick Fuj?" is:


    Not much at all.

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  66. i love the fact that everybody has no-sold his comment and kept it moving.

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  67. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 7:23 AM

    You know when a poster is mad when they spaz out and forgo the edit feature.

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  68. That actually gave me a thought.


    Remember when everyone had to be shown WALKING BACKSTAGE! towards the ring? Why couldn't everyone (or at least a fair portion) of the roster get their own versions of that?


    Austin drinking beer and flipping middle fingers in his locker room, Rock prepping his hair, drinking water, exercising the eyebrow, UT TAPING HIS FISTS! or chanting creepy shit, Kane lighting random things on fire (cue production assistant running by, with a flaming shirt), HHH spitting water everywhere or practicing his sledgehammer shot on random objects, and so on?

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  69. YankeesHoganTripleHFanNovember 4, 2013 at 7:28 AM

    I don't think Nash was necessarily a bad influence. He strikes me as the type that likes to have a good time but knows the limit. I think he was the clique's voice of reason.

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  70. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 7:28 AM

    I read both HBK's and Bret's book to see if there was any middle ground in their feelings between each other. It was an interesting comparison.

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  71. Funny thing is I don't ever remember interacting with him before... but apparently he is a White Knight, so I can see how I would be offensive. c'est la vie

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  72. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 7:30 AM

    Yeah. Kanye West moment.

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  73. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 7:31 AM

    Laughing my Porn-Peddling ass off at the name change...

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  74. Same. Far be it from me to have reality fuck up what someone wants to think.

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  75. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    If it makes you feel better, he spelled my name wrong too. I feel like Kirk Angel after being sullied by Chris Jericho.

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  76. I am more of a fan of Ron Mysterio myself

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  77. Hahahah. Love the name change. Funny he considers twerking gifs "porn".

    If you are peddling porn though, Ill takr an order of "big black asses 4 and 5" and some Lisa Ann vids.

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  78. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 7:52 AM

    ...uh, yeah..ha ha...real funny.
    *takes down order*

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  79. I call Asia Carrera and Stephanie Swift. Preferably together.

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  80. Stephanie Swift? In unfamiliar with her. Google time...

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  81. By "funny" I meant weird and riduclious. Strange fella

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  82. "Misogynistic Parallex1978" do it. At least for a day

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  83. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 8:01 AM

    I knew what you meant..
    *cancels order*

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  84. Disqus doesn't seem to like it. :(

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  85. If he does go, does HHH leave with him?

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  86. 'THREADJACK'
    How do people get over a girl? How long does it take?
    It's been 3 months since that girl i had a massive crush on told me fuck off. I should be over it, since we were only close friends for 5 years and never a 'girlfriend/boyfriend' thing, but i'm still not over her. I really want her back in my life.

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  87. Yeah, First series and first few episodes of the second series were brill. Up until
    (SPOILER)
    Brody got found out as a terrorist.

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  88. I think you're confusing "gimmick posters" with "clever posters with a running gag." Not to kiss ass or anything, but the fellas you called out are probably the least deserving of it. As proof, look at how these guys took what you said in stride and made this particular thread pretty entertaining.



    But it's okay, Phred, we all have our moments.

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  89. I'm sorry this is still an issue for you. The unfortunate answer is that there really is no exact formula, everyone is different, and every relationship is different. I could tell you all of the Ra-Ra stuff "She didn't deserve you!", "You are better off" etc... but I suspect that none of that would really help. The truth is it sucks, and it will suck for a while... then it will eventually suck less. In time it won't be at the front of your mind so much, you'll think back on it occasionally and still think it sucks but it won't hurt so much... in the meantime just try and keep yourself occupied as best as you can. Try not to be alone anymore than you have to etc...


    There is some science that says recovering from a broken relationship is like recovering from any other addiction... your brain gets addicted to the dopamine and other feel good hormones produced by the relationship and when they are no longer present it goes through withdrawal, and it takes time to detox.


    Please keep in mind that I am 2x divorced and usually fuck married women and have been dubbed "That Fucking Misogynist Parallex1978" before taking any of my advice though.

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  90. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 8:20 AM

    The longer you dwell on it, the harder it is to get over it. My advice is to go out and do things to make yourself better. Live your life. And for GOD's sake DON'T chase her. If you want her back, make her miss you. You can't do that if you're not gone.
    If she doesn't come back, it wasn't meant to be. Either way move on with your life and live it to the fullest.

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  91. Stranger in the AlpsNovember 4, 2013 at 8:21 AM

    Shawn has issues in 1998. His prima donna attitude catches up with him as Vince is trying to win the ratings war with WCW. Shawn doesn't adjust well to WWF moving up, especially when he sees that it's entirely due to him. Jealousy is a bitch and he becomes bitter toward guys like Austin and Rocky. He refuses to put Mick Foley over clean, although they have awesome matches. They keep him away from Austin and Rocky because they want to push those guys and Shawn won't give them the rub. Triple H is his only friend and sees what's "best for business" and convinces Shawn to take time off to recharge and get off the damn drugs. Whle off TV, Austin, Rocky, Foley, et al. continue their upward move toward ratings success and the Attitude Era. Vince seesd $$$ with Austin, decides that maybe Shawn is disposable after all, decides to relieve himself of the headache, and Shawn is free to go to WCW. Initially, his run there keeps the two companies back and forth for #1 in the ratings, but he burns out there as well, especially when Russo is ousted the first time. His bloated contract is cut by Turner, and he has trouble getting back into Vince's good graces, because he is a mess physically and mentally. Then we pick up where reality sets in. His comeback in 2002, where we can follow the linear path that actually happened.

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  92. I think he eventually gets to be far too much of a burden to WWF... and since he has some name value WCW would offer him some sort of obscene contract that he would take. He would get misused and lost in the shuffle because WCW, his drug problem would get worse and he would end up either broke and doing indy's for $20 a night, living with DDP, or in the casket again for good this time.


    WCW would still eventually die the same death it did.


    WWE probably would have played out pretty much the same as it has except with far less awesome matches... with the streak also seeming less important the last 5 years.


    Happy Monday!

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  93. Not at all joking we should have an occasional relationship/self help type thread or column here. This stuff seems to be coming up a lot more often and I honestly think people are finding it beneficial.

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  94. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 8:25 AM

    Here is a point that a few people overlook: If Shawn DOES go to WCW sooner, he could (potentially) meet the woman who is credited for saving his life a lot sooner. (Nitro girl Whisper/Rebecca) So he may not have imploded as some might think.

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  95. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 8:26 AM

    I have no problem with this as long as it doesn't cut into my porn-pedaling time.

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  96. I did say "SELF help" didn't I?

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  97. Thanks. That is good advice. I guess it's harder becuase it's a friendship, and i honestly thought it would last for years. I'm mourning the friendship being lost as much as my feelings not being returned. My friends are trying, but i just feel no one really understands that i'm not sad because she didn't want to sleep with me, it's because i lost one of my best friends.

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  98. THE INTERNET MUST KNOW OF MY VERY IMPORTANT OPINION! I CANNOT SPARE EVEN A FRACTION OF A SECOND! NO! TIME! TO! EDIT!

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  99. Stranger in the AlpsNovember 4, 2013 at 8:27 AM

    It seems like maybe you need to fill a void. She was in that space but it's now vacant, and may just be dwelling too much on that which was there but now is gone. May I suggest making a full bodied attempt at moving on. Tell yourself that you're tired of feeling that way, and you need to do something about it. Create an online dating profile, and test those waters. Or it doesn't even have to be a new relationship. Find something you already know you enjoy doing, and immerse yourself in it. Take a trip out of town and see some stuff that you would enjoy seeing.
    Or, fuck it, take a 20 out of the ATM and find a blue light special in the red light district.

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  100. Good point. I dont think you truely ever change behavior like that until youre really ready though. She may have helped but ultimately, it was always gonna be on him to change.

    But on to more serious things, is my porn on next day delivery or 3-5 business days?

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  101. Well that is a little different... but only marginally so. Honestly it sounds like maybe she now finds it awkward to be around you since you went for it and she didn't feel the same way.


    First of all that takes a lot of balls and you should be pleased with yourself for that. As for the friendship just give it some time. Leave her alone for a while, let the embarrassment wear off and the wounds heal. Then just casually check in with her down the road "How's everything going? good? Cool! TTYL" and I think you will find that you will gradually be able to rebuild the friendship... as long as you see it as just that and are not still hoping something else develops... if you don't think you can be friends with her without still hoping for that, then it is best to just not talk to her again until you can... if that day ever comes.

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  102. Bewilderingly, to me. I hadn't noticed any misogyny.


    You do seem to be very pro-gay superhero rape, though, going by your avatar?


    Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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  103. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    This is true. People knew when I broke up with my ex because I went to the gym a LOT more. This is usually because I take out all that aggression there and it made me so tired when I go home I go straight to sleep so I didn't think about it.
    I replaced her with the gym (which was a positive) My friend broke up with his girl and was drunk every night. That is not good.

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  104. Those two are... not alike. Except for being in porn.

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  105. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 8:35 AM

    3 -5. Holidays are coming and it slows things down a little.

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  106. Oh, i have a girlfriend, who's great and makes me happy.
    I don't think i love her though. Not sure. I'm trying not to let my issues with my former friend cloud it!
    My prefect scenario would be having my girlfriend, and still being friends with this other girl.

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  107. It goes back to a day when I said I don't have much respect for women. A stance I stand by as they have, in my experience rarely given me a reason to. There are some that I do respect, but on the average I just don't. I mentioned this one day Flair4dagold, and apparently some others really took offense to it and have labeled me a misogynist ever since. I'm not going to pretend to like or respect a demographic I just don't for the sake of being PC so if that makes me a misogynist so be it.

    As for my avatar... I see your point... I just wanted a picture of Hal Jordan as Parallax... but I didn't draw the thing... perhaps Dan Jurgens is the one with issues that really need to be addressed here...

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  108. Come to think of it, since Mrs. Parallax and I separated I have been going to the gym a lot more... though I just wrote it off to having more time to do things that are NOT listening to her bitch all night.

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  109. Pro Tip: Don't let the girlfriend see this thread.

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  110. Yeah... I honestly think that injury was one of those "It sucks that it happened, but it worked out good for him in the long run" type of things.

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  111. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 8:42 AM

    From what he said in his book he damned near OD'ed several times with his wife watching over him. She begged him to get help and he gave half-assed efforts until one day he decided to do it.

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  112. The standard rule is half the time you were with her. But, results may vary.

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  113. Eh, fair enough. I personally can't fucking stand white, well-off, straight guys. Been employed by plenty, had many as friends... find them all to be complete jackasses. Plus, think of someone in world history who has famously been a complete cunt. Probably a white, well-off straight guy.


    But nobody has ever called me out on being a man-hater. Probably because there's not a convenient little label for people to quickly slap onto me for lazy pigeonholing. Whereas if you say - as you have - "they have, in my experience, rarely given me a reason to [respect women]", then you must surely go home and slap that bitch upside the face. Not really - but it's easy to pigeonhole like that.


    That's the problem with the internet. The White Knights don't realise that they're at least as big insufferable douches as whomever they think they're standing up to.


    Speaking generally, not specifically about anyone here. Or I'd just say so.

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  114. Wait...parallEx? Dafuq?

    I believe life gives us what we need, even if we don't understand it at the time. Either that, or I use it to rationalize the crappy shit that happens.

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  115. Go read the Piper book review thread

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  116. Again, check out the Piper thread.

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  117. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 8:50 AM

    Never mind that...I got a special on DVD's today: 2 for $5 or 6 for $10. If they ask any questions they fell out of a truck.

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  118. Ask the misogynistic parallEx how he rules with the Pimp Hand...

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  119. I can't even fathom actually having to have a disc for porn...

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  120. 1. I think I have to skip Raw tonight in any case, but assuming they've started the new story arcs, I'm going to let them get a little footing before I care. Cena vs. Someone and Orton vs. Show isn't exactly riveting.
    2. I wouldn't say any investor who actually does a little investigating is being "fooled" or misled.
    3. Good for the Rhodes family.
    4. Wouldn't see them for a year in any case but fine.
    5. I don't know. 5'8" is a bit short. Good luck to him.

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  121. It's kinda amazing that he only missed about four years. It felt like much longer.

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  122. I don't think there's a standard time frame, but I've only had a woman truly break my heart once. I couldn't eat for 2 full days (which in my case is saying something) and to this day, I remain ticked off at what she did. Do I want her back? In no way, shape, or form.


    Personally, I've never been able to have a "friends only" relationship with a woman, but I seem to define the word "friend" differently than most, and am not particularly social. Basically, if I liked a woman enough to consider her a friend, why wouldn't I want to take that further?


    Now that I'm married, I don't really have any female friends. Acquaintances, sure. But, I can probably count the number of people I consider to be friends on one hand with fingers left over. Yeah, I'm the kind of guy bothered by the way Facebook throws the word "friend" around.

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  123. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 8:56 AM

    Technology is killing my business, yo.

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  124. Yeah, that's last on my list this morning. The way book reviews are written here tends to bug me a bit...though not as badly as the "shoot" reviews.

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  125. I think HHH gets enough of a "guarantee" (Top of the card), and has not-so-good memories of his time in WCW (Terra Ryzin), that he's not headed South.


    Also, he's nowhere near the name HBK is at that point.


    BUT... if he does leave, and never gets with Steph... there's one hell of a "What If?". And one I have NO clue on.

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  126. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    At least change your avatar to a misogynistic dude.
    My choice would be Andrew Dice Clay.

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  127. Stranger in the AlpsNovember 4, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    You get a paper bag, blow up a photo of your "friend", glue it to the bag, then ask your current girlfriend to place the bag with the face of the other girl on it over her own head. Cut out a hole so she can breathe. Problem solved.
    Or not.

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  128. Lisa Ann, Shyla Stylez, Drunna, Angel Ayanna or nothing buddy. I cant be bothered by the Phoenix Maries of the world

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  129. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    Does this mean Stephanie will set up a match and embarrass/squash her next?

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  130. Thats EXACTLY what I was thinking writing this. The landscape changed so much in those 4 years it felt like an eternity

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  131. Juat read the comments

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  132. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Yep. It was a busy morning.

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  133. I'm sorry Officer Farva, I love your posts, but if you're going to have front page posting privileges...


    1. Truly
    2. Brody
    3. Hovering
    4. Toodaloo


    And many others.

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  134. The fact that Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards are doing an angle about possibly going to the WWE makes me think they aren't going there.

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  135. 4 years use to be a lifetime in wrestling time. Not so much anymore.

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  136. Change with the times or GTFO

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  137. Cucch is fucking crazy, but pityable... but I enjoy the way the shoots are done, even if their length makes them tough to get through.

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  138. ...there is zero chance that goes poorly.

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  139. It must remain strong at ALL times.

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  140. :: OfficeFarva proves to be as bad as Caliber at taking criticism and quits ::

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  141. Noted. Writing and grammar aernt by strong suits, it doesnt help that I always do these from my phone either but I will make the corrections. I was actually surprised I havent been corrected more.

    *gives the BoD the finger and everyone the stunner*

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  142. Oh geez that is WAY better than what I did...

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  143. Ok. Got it. I don't generally jump on bandwagons, but I like this one.

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  144. Are you even capable of jumping?

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  145. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    Are you are one of the 'other fucking goons' he is referring to?

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  146. Ah, then you get a pass for posting such a freaking lengthy post on your phone. Spell however you like!

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  147. Damn it Jim...my name change isn't taking.

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  148. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    Give it about 5 minutes.

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  149. Sometimes, one just has to slap a bitch. I generally keep it confined to those who request it.

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  150. They MAKE me do it!

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  151. What's an ogynist, and why do you miss it?

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  152. http://www.memegeneokerlund.com/meme/3rwp4l

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  153. On the shoots, the choice in tense and grammar messes with me. I wind up having to reread sentences to make sure I understand what is being said far more often than I'd like. But, I do appreciate the effort and time involved, and am glad to be able to read them, and the book reviews.

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  154. Another plus to this is that it would give NPP something to LOL about... because that is the complete and only point of my life.

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  155. I'll skip the other stories, and just hit on the WWE Network one:


    WWE stock's actually been on a slow, steady rise lately... they got CLOSE to the 1 Billion market cap number last Friday, and are down a little today (but still one fair push away from that number).


    So, even though some numbers are down... apparently investors aren't scared off yet.

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  156. Actually, this "guest" post was me....not sure why it has me as a guest. Dunno if I'm one of the goons, but I'm trying to claim it as a nickname.

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  157. The books reviews are train wreck entertaining... except the DX one which made me legit fear for the guys well being.

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  158. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 4, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    "Was Shawn so beat up that he was going to have an injury or mental breakdown that would inevitably put him out of action anyway?"


    If by injury you mean "dying of a drug overdose", then yes.

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  159. If I had the desire, and the video editing skill I would make a video of Shawn taking the casket bump set to "How to Save a Life" by The Fray as a response to this post.

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  160. Hahahahaha. Avatar change well done

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  161. Horrid joke and play on words. Mis - ogynist.

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  162. Also, will people STOP CHANGING AVATARS!


    I dislike change.


    (grumble grumble grumble)

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  163. And I'm sure afterwards, you cry and promise never to do it again.

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  164. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 4, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    And if I had any idea who The Fray are I'd... I dunno, do something, I guess.

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  165. Wait...so...you don't really like smaller guys as wrestlers, so you sign a 185 pound amateur? Genius.

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  166. Thank Vinson for taking a moment off from porn peddling to locate it.

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  167. Crying is for sissy boys!

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  168. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    ...so YOU'RE the old guy that used to tell us to get off his lawn when we were playing football?

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  169. One hit wonder. Had a song called "How to Save a Life". It sucked, but it would work here.

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  170. I legit didn't recognize my own post a little while ago

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  171. Nah. I hate cutting grass anyway. Feel free to tear the lawn up.

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  172. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonNovember 4, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    Hey, it had a Green Lantern in it. Side note: I wonder if it left the ring imprint in her face when he smacked fire out of her ass?

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  173. My first impulse was to change my avatar to a giant middle finger.

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  174. I hit refresh once and all of a sudden half the posts look off.


    But after a quick jaunt over to the Piper review... Bravo.

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  175. I seriously just had to close the door to my office I laughed so hard at that.

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  176. They want another Kurt Angle, minus the bat shit crazy.

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  177. Yes... why is that surprising?

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  178. Well, who wouldn't? But, what was Angle's weight class?

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  179. Like, an office where an employer pays you to sit there, or a home office?

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  180. Few and far between as they may be...

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  181. Not a home office. An office in a building with walls and chairs and stuff... again why is this so bewildering?

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  182. Much like ice cream cones! ZING!

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