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Saturday, January 4, 2014

Daniel Bryan Now Going by "Daniel Wyatt"

They switched his name and ring gear in order to fit in with the Wyatt Family

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_75471.shtml#.Usj27PRDvIs

278 comments:

  1. Sounds like quite the house show match up. Hope for the crowd's sake that wasn't the main event. .....will save further complaining til Raw

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  2. That gear actually looks ace.

    He faced Bray Wyatt so who knows what's going on.

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  3. already loving it, cant wait for raw!

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  4. Remeber when they had Steve Austin join the Brood? No? Because that would have been a fucking stupid idea.


    That's what this is.

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  5. 1. Thank god he's being differentiated from Harper and Rowan, further signaling that this ends better than it looks.


    2. I hope this doesn't mean he 'married' Bray. EEW.

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  6. What? That would have been fucking awesome.

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  7. At least it's almost the same sound to chant.

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  8. Does this mean that if he leaves WWE and goes back to ROH, he'll wrestle as Wyatt Danielson?

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  9. The part of Duke "The Dumpster" Droese will now be played by...

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  10. I'm all for this angle as it's been playing out... but none of the other Wyatt Family members are actually named Wyatt (other than Bray, of course).

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  11. In all seriousness, I'm fine with this development. It makes sense, since he joined them. I still have no problem with the storyline.


    It's the PAYOFF - or lack thereof - where I'm worried. WWE hasn't exactly done well when it comes to satisfying payoffs for potentially good/great storylines in the last 5-10 years.

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  12. THREADJACK!~

    Hulk Hogan, using the legdrop as a transition move leading up to his submission finisher.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEYcnqiRcVM

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  13. This reminds me of Lex Luger quitting the Horsemen.

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  14. What a whirlwind marriage this has been. I can't wait to see Brie's reaction on Total Divas season two.

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  15. So whatever happened to this Hogan schlub, anyway? I mean, he was tall and muscular and all, but he doesn't look like anything special. Did he do much after this match?

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  16. He would later don a mask and achieve a small measure of fame as Mr.America.

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  17. He rode Brutus Beefcake's coattails - seems like everywhere Beefcake was, Hogan just *happened* to be there too. Total Beefcake lackey.

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  18. Oh yeah, I vaguely remember that. Something about a one-legged wrestler or something?

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  19. No foreplay for you! Let's jump straight to the money shot...

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  20. This could just be a one night deal to pay off a previously advertised house show match, like Juan Cena.

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  21. I have a very bad feeling there has been no thought put to the resolution of this story or where Bryan goes next. I can't help feeling like this was done to move some of Bryan's crowd reactions to Bray Wyatt by transference.

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  22. Aside from maybe the double turn of Austin/Hart at WM 13 (and even that's arguable since Austin was already very over), has there ever been a successful transference in wrestling?

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  23. Ugh, so THAT'S what happened to the Beefcake/Zeus feud? They shoe-horned his Hollywood buddy into it?

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  24. ARRRRGH THE BARBARIANJanuary 5, 2014 at 12:28 AM

    The house show crowds are gonna love this. Should have just used "card subject to change", dumbasses

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  25. I still think at some point they should get a bret-wearing Cena look-a-like to come out as his evil French twin, Jean Cena. Maybe for Wrestlemania since they can't find a suitable opponent? Just imagine:

    Cena vs. Cena - Blood Battle: From the Womb to the Tomb.

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  26. The question is whether they will have Daniel Wyatt refer to Bray as "Daddy" or "Husband" in his promos.

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  27. Exactly. In Vince logic, you can't chant for Daniel Bryan if he's no longer Daniel Bryan! ::eyeroll::

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  28. Mr. Satan (Pat P. Pro)January 5, 2014 at 2:12 AM

    STONE COLD SAYS I'M A DRINK YOU SONS OF BITCHES BLOOD, WASH IT DOWN WITH A BEER, DRINK SOME MORE BLOOD, WASH IT DOWN WITH MORE BEER

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  29. How much cooler would It have been if opponents sucked up a mouthfull of fake blood to spit out while being Stunned?

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  30. That's how it should have been!

    Shoulder ---> throat ---> crushed larynx

    There's a gif of Shane O taking the stunner with a mouthful of beer. God, I miss those days.

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  31. Well before Triple H's quad injury, the Two Man Power Trip allowed Steve Austin to absorb Triple H's talent, wrestling prowess and promo ability in order to make him greater.

    Don't feel sad for Triple H, he just likes to do what's best FOR THIS BUSINESS.

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  32. Wow this is dumb. I'm starting to rethink my stance on this angle

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  33. Remind us of your stance once more.

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  34. The whole argument of "well, this might be interesting, but WWE doesn't know how to pay anything off" is so spacious, because those people just keep moving the goal posts back until something happens that supports their point.


    WWE gave us the mother of all epic payoffs about two and a half years ago, when, after a month of buildup, CM Punk had a five star match with John Cena and walked out of the WWE with the championship. But then Punk came back earlier than people liked, and Nash texted himself, so people forgot about that epic payoff and said, "see, WWE doesn't know how to finish anything off right!"


    There is no ultimate payoff because there is no ending. For us, for all intents and purposes, WWE is eternal. Good things will happen, and bad things will happen. Sometimes the bad will outnumber will good significantly. You have the right to complain about that if you feel the need to. But stop bitching about "payoffs", because there's no point in complaining about things that don't exist.

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  35. That could be the next step. If the fans start chanting 'Daniel Wyatt', Vince will change his name again, this time to a very offensive racial epithet.

    VINCE: Let's see this smarmy liberal Seattle crowd support him now that he's called Daniel Nig-

    (WWE RAW IS EXPERIENCING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES)

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  36. You know the phrase "WWE is Eternal" is going to make it into the next avertising phase for the company now, right? I think I heard Vince's boner erupt from here. And I'm in Australia!

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  37. "Set for one fall or until curfew"?!

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  38. Does this mean he'll grow the beard even longer to match the rest of the Wyatts then shave it off when he turns face again?

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  39. I assume the next stage of the Bryan thing on Monday will be him beating up some loser face on Wyatt's instructions ( Come on down Dolph Ziggler)...

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  40. Ill repost a comment I made a couple days ago...
    A point I made in the open thread last night that got me and a few others burned by the board was that I am ok with this. For the first time in a LOOONG time I am actually looking forward to RAW next week to see what happens. To me this is the first time creative is rolling the dice in a good while and look it already has the internet buzzing, almost 400 posts on a RAW recap thread not done by Scott (no offense Andy I like your reviews, but Scott's threads usually get the most hits). With Batista, and Brock back the OVW 4 of 2002 is competing on the same roster, for the same title in
    forever (they were split up in the brand switch back than). There is no room for Bryan with only one title now in the immediate future, so why not do something interesting and that no one saw coming. LETS PLAY IT OUT AND SEE WHERE IT GOES....

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  41. This 'tude gets it

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  42. "I'm as wet as I've ever been! And I'm from Canada!"

    A million points for the reference.

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  43. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 6:55 AM

    STOP MAKING SENSE AT ME!!!

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  44. He forgets that he already said it.

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  45. Upvote because it's a great point.

    The problem is EVEN THEN, the rest of the show was bollocks.

    That's how I see it, and I ain't afraid to... type it.

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  46. I guess my only concern would be if they leave him like this for too long it may be hard to turn him back and recapture the same heat he had.

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  47. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 6:58 AM

    A Daniel Wyatt chant will sound close to a Daniel Bryan chant.

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  48. Austin never feuded with the brood.

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  49. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 7:00 AM

    Undertaker/Jake Roberts?

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  50. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 7:01 AM

    I was thinking Tugboat becoming Typhoon.

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  51. remember he has made EVERY role they stuck him in work so far. I think he will be fine.

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  52. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 7:03 AM

    Paying for hookers by the hour is expensive...or so I'm told.

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  53. Yeah this is definitely temporary if they are going that far.

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  54. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 7:05 AM

    Is gonna be intrersting to see what name Brie uses after she marries DBry (DWy?)

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  55. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 7:06 AM

    SES was a missed opportunity. Corporate Ministry was a letdown.

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  56. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 7:09 AM

    Downvote for incorrectly using my gimmick.

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  57. This whole angle would have worked if Bryan had been able to turn on Sting or Lex Luger in the process.

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  58. The comments section is now moderated?


    Guess this is the end of the Comments of Doom...

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  59. I would agree except your example doesn't really hold water. The end of the Punk/Cena feud would've normally been Cena squashing Punk like a bug. But with Punk winning, that opens up the possibility of a whole new storyline, which they promptly screwed up when they included Nash and Triple H.

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  60. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 7:35 AM

    There go my Monday and Thursday night posts.

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  61. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 7:36 AM

    I think one of the reasons Vince wanted Sting in the WWE is so the roster can turn on him.

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  62. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 7:37 AM

    ....maybe that's the plan.

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  63. So is Bryan going to start wearing a goat mask too?

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  64. That's what I thought.

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  65. She will have a beard

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  66. Ainge has a solid track record in the draft. Sure, he missed on Marcus Banks, JR Giddens, and Fab Melo but found some gems in the second round too (Powe, Fat Davis) and got Rondo, Bradley, Sullinger, and Perkins in the middle-end of the first round.

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  67. Sure, why not? If you're going with Daniel being part of the Wyatt clan, go all the way with it. Better than having him come out in his normal attire and wrestling/talking/looking like Daniel Bryan and then remembering when the match is done that he's suppose to be part of the Wyatts.

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  68. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 8:34 AM

    I notice some of my posts are missing. Moderator?

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  69. You should change your username to Porn-Peddling Jef Wyatt. Looks like the machine's holding you down, man.

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  70. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 8:40 AM

    The Baylenator...

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  71. All the more reason that TD should have these people going by their real names, totally divorced from the kayfabe world.

    Bryan gets attacked by Orton? Brie's sad!
    Bryan gets abducted by the Wyatts? Brie's concerned!
    Bryan joins the Wyatts and changes his name? Uh, that's kinda hard to write in for Brie, so Brie doesn't react!

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  72. Challenge given, Vince. Got the grapefruits?

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  73. The moderators always have to ruin everything

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  74. Out of curiosity, what got removed? (not asking for specifics, don't want more posts removed.)

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  75. This might be a stretch, but... Remember in week #2 of Austin/Mcmahon, where Austin wore a suit in the ring, and pretended to be a corporate stooge for about 5 minutes, only to remove the suit and flick vince in the nuts?

    I see this as comparable. Just that the 5 minutes might be stretched out to a month or 2. I have no doubt Bryan URRR Wyatt will be just fine.

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  76. Totally agree. The payoff could have been seen as the MITB win over Cena... Or the 400+ day title reign... Instead lots of people focus squarely on the Nash/HHH thing, and declared the angle FINISHED AND DEAD RIGHT THERE. Aka, focusing on the only part that was remotely negative.

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  77. Sting as Sideshow Bob, the roster as rakes. I'd watch that

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  78. Are posts being deleted or is this Disqus acting up again?

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  79. I think disqus is just eating itself.

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  80. It might just be Disqus eating posts again. Also, a majority of the moderators for this site are barely around anymore

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  81. Personally don't notice anything. But I haven't reached the glass ceiling yet of the poster elite and might be flying under the radar

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  82. Yeah upon further review you won that trade easily.

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  83. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement

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  84. The Hogan/Flair double turn late in WCW was executed well and got the right reaction. The only problem being that it was a dynamic that had already been beaten to death.

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  85. Has the BoD gone PG?

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  86. You think she can handle 'sad' or 'concerned'?

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  87. ....though a Festus style insanity where he's "Daniel Bryan" until he hears a pig squeal would be absurdly fun

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  88. I think he didn't use the leg drop as his finisher in Japan.

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  89. in some parts of the south, I hear there's no difference...

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  90. That is what I think too. Who really monitors the comments anyway?

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  91. The spam filter was eating posts for some reason. I went in and approved everything pending.

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  92. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    Bryan's definitely gonna be a heel through at least Mania. The purpose of this angle is kill of the Yes and "Daniel Bryan" chants so it doesn't interfere with Batista's return, and to set Bryan up as heel job fodder for Cena and Batista.

    Does anyone really think there's a purpose here beyond that?

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  93. One Man Gang becoming Akeem....

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  94. I'm shocked at how accepting of this angle everyone is.

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  95. Disqus being Disqus

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  96. Save that shit for Santino Wyatt.


    (You KNOW he could pull it off well.)

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  97. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 9:52 AM

    I tell ya, I'm really dreading the inevitable John Cena promo where he dressed Bryan down for selling out and giving up, while Bryan screams about how "these people just chanted Yes to belittle me!" And "they ruined my life." That's happening because this folks is a HEEL TURN.

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  98. Did you buy a bomb shelter for Y2K?

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  99. Not accepting, just resigned to the general fuckery that is WWE Creative. And, once again, because it CANNOT EVER be said enough:


    FUCK YOU DIXIE CARTER, YOU VAPID TWAT.

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  100. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 9:55 AM

    Yup because I'm a crazy person. You got me!

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  101. Not crazy. Just quick to shout "doomsday, the world is ending".

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  102. You're shocked that not everyone is a Chicken Little screaming about the sky falling before they even look outside?

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  103. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 9:59 AM

    Seriously though, do you honestly think this is an outlandish scenario? It's the same thing they did with Punk--- have him turn on his fan base and let Cena soak up heat by calling him on it. It's the classic way Vince books his true #1 face (See Hogan with Orndorf, Andre, Savage.)

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  104. Dude is dressed like a member of Slipknot and people are down voting the fuck out of anyone saying anything negative about it. The Wyatt's suck, Windham Rotundo is mediocre at best. The Wyatt's would be fantastic on a TV show were they could be shown committing crimes and whatnot. Bryan is getting buried to make way for Batista, Brock, Orton, Cena, Taker, the real main eventers. People are butthurt as fuck. D Bry should have kept his hair cut and beard trimmed. Bottom line is Daniel Bryan maybe does get his revenge on the Wyatt's . . . in a middle of the card match. I'm pumped for Batista and Brock, forget this storyline. What evidence is there that this is not all designed to kill Bryan's heat? Anyone?

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  105. The 400 day title reign were he didn't main event a PPV until he was wrestling Cena. The Ryback match doesn't count either as Cena was hurt.

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  106. Changing his name to Daniel Wyatt makes me think even more that this is either a swerve or a very temporary "get us through Mania so he can fight a top face and turn him back immediately" thing.

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  107. You understand that your hypothetical scenario involves the WWE having John Cena put Bryan over, both on the mic and in the ring, having Bryan main event Raws and PPVs for a full financial quarter, positioning him in the second biggest angle in the company, having HHH put him over as a world title contender verbally and then "burying" him because the fans are paying too much attention to this guy the company's paying all this attention to.

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  108. WWE has killed all their goodwill with the fans and proven time and time again that they do what they want, fans be damned. Until the monopoly is over this is how business will be conducted.

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  109. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    I was 100% on board with The Summerslam angle when it happened. I've given WWE the benefit of the doubt plenty of times in comparison to others on this board. I just don't feel that way anymore, at least when it comes to Bryan. I think they just see him as a tool to get others over, and that they've decided the most effective way now is as a heel. (Since Cena, Big Dave, and eventually Roman will be the faces they wanna get over in the next year.)

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  110. Honestly, nothing they could do in this angle would surprise me. I don't know what their long term plan is and what the agenda is for this Bryan/Wyatt angle yet. I think tomorrow will be telling. If he goes 3-4 weeks as completely different character then the Bryan we know, I'll lean towards your side of the fence on this. That maybe this is an angle to cool him off. If he's simply aligned with the Wyatts and shows signs of being conflicted (kinda like HHBK WHEN he was JBLs lackey, then I'll just assume they want him to okay aligned sympathetic babyface to help elevate the Wyatts and heel eventually go over and return to where he was. I don't know. I can't get upset about it tho without seeing how at least 1 week plays out

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  111. The passions for comics books brought them together but eventually that same passion ripped them apart

    #AsTheDougieTurns

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  112. Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if the crowds chanted Daniel Bryan anyway.

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  113. I gotta agree. They have used up a lot of their good will with me. I trust try to enjoy each show on its own at this point and worry less about the long term booking or get excited about anything.

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  114. For once we agree. I figured this would lead to an even bigger meltdown from everyone here.

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  115. I am pretty sure the beard/hair is something the company wanted

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  116. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    What would surprise me is if DWy character embraces the heel turn instead of the conflicted face they normally do.

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  117. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    When I received my Gray Lantern Ring of Indifference I learned not to care about things other than my weakness Layla El.

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  118. Yes, but I'm also not 14

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  119. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    Couple of snarky posts. Nothing out of the usual.

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  120. Porn-Peddling Jef VinsonJanuary 5, 2014 at 10:42 AM

    STOP MAKING SENSE AT ME!!

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  121. I agree. I remember watching this live and thinking "Well, that's kinda dumb, but at least it gives Goldberg something to do for the next 4 months"--namely killing off Hall, Luger, Nash, Steiner, and Hogan in some sequence. When they didn't follow up in any way, you knew it was just another ridiculous ratings ploy. I was at SuperBrawl IX live and when they had the nWo win all the blow-off type matches, you knew the writing was on the wall. They did all those finishes at Uncensored, to severly-diminished heat and with nonsensical booking and it started to truly feel like the end was coming.

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  122. Yes. That is generally the reaction here.

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  123. Yeah, he was out after Halloween Havoc and came back around SuperBrawl. I believe it was an injury or some personal issue

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  124. That's a great story can you tell me more about it while you are getting me a Frappuccino?

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  125. I'm with you. I was at SuperBrawl that year and it was one of the more deflating shows ever. That was the biggest indication that they weren't willing to change

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  126. This is the guy that Flair4dagold banned because he said "Orton is winning" in a live thread and F4DG took it as a spoiler... so you see why he'd be quick to react that way.

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  127. They made a tremendous profit off Rock/Cena though, even if the build was underwhelming

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  128. It was part of my ploy to pass you jobber and cult

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  129. That's basically Joesph Park/Abyss

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  130. There comes a point when the segment of the fan base you speak of has been burned too many times to care. Had this angle been run immediately after SummerSlam, I'm fairly certain half the IWC would've melted away.

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  131. I couldn't disagree more: the whole "there is no ending" thing is a cop-out. There are discernible start and end points for programs from time immemorial in wrestling parlance, moments where you can definitively point and say "here's the payoff, story's over, fin". The CM Punk angle from 2011 was the perfect example of a hot start, a middling second act, and the wheels coming off in the final act. Not all stories have good middle acts; culturally we're spoiled on the premise that the second act must always be the supreme incarnation. Yet no one could argue with any degree of real merit that the 'Summer of Punk' angle ended satisfactorily.



    Yes, Punk wound up with the title and a lengthy run after the fact, but it should've have been a continuation of the summer program, not a footnote to it as it became. Punk was never the focal point as champion for any discernible period, which is exactly the problem causing the staleness at the top of the card. The Triple H/Punk continuation of the original angle was DEATH for all involved and pretty well killed the media exposure Punk was getting. And for anyone who says that doesn't matter, just wrong. The more something clicks in the mainstream, the more you push the shit out of it. And the more that works, the more you work with things in that vein, freshening up much more of the card in the process.


    /endcontrarypostforsakeofcontrarypost

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  132. Downvote all you want, you know I am right and this is how you usually react.

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  133. Sadly, on a good day, I can get a little over a 100 post.

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  134. Stranger in the AlpsJanuary 5, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    At this point in time, I'm just rolling with this storyline. At the end of RAW, I was "meh, whatever". I like Daniel Bryan, and I believe he is the top mat man in the company, and would like nothing more than for him to be the top guy. But at the same time, what are you gonna do about this angle? Are you going to send an email to WWE, explaining why the angle sucks and how it is sabotaging Bryan's character? I'm not. I'm going to keep tuning in every week, like I have been since I was 12 years old. Eventually, it will go somewhere (or not), and lead to something bigger (or not).

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  135. To summaries, let's play it out and see where it goes.

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  136. How funny would it be if Jesse was the top adviser of comment control.

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  137. I'm going to try and reach the glass ceiling in about a week in a half.

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  138. Eric wears a sheep mask.

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  139. Can't wait to see this on RAW.

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  140. OR we could break it down like so...

    HHH told his best friend and the audience at large while in the ring that Daniel Bryan was not good or big enough for him to have a match with. He basically said Bryan was not good enough for a special attraction match the week before he was to main event. He was also called a troll and B+, so forgive us if we don't consider "having HHH put him over as a world title contender" to be an absolute truth.



    Those PPVs Bryan headlined were some of the shittiest PPVs in WWE history. That isn't a treat--that's a death sentence. You might have to go back to 1995 or 1996 to find cards with sloppier build up and zero heat. With WWE's special event content probably crossing over to the WWE Network, they have invested very little in these PPVs since Summerslam. The only change they made was not letting Big Show stay a main eventer.


    Bryan held the title for about 1 day and 7 minutes. Abeyance was a more prestigious champion than he was.



    Less people are saying he's been buried. More people are saying his push doesn't match the crowd reaction for him over the last year.

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  141. Yes, there is every reason to believe the company is being a giant moron and Bryan has officially turned heel and joined the Wyatt's b/c Vince really is stupid enough to figure "He has a beard...they have beards...hmmm...I'VE GOT IT!"


    However, there is ALSO every reason to believe that he's just working them from the inside and this is just an angle to take him up to and through the Rumble, or perhaps even EC, and he's playing mind games with Bray. So, as much as I'm loathe to say it, I'm gonna let this play out for a bit before I start lighting torches. At the end of the day, even if it's foolish given Bryan's popularity, it's still a GOOD STORYLINE.


    If he as just ONE moment of hesitation on Monday, where the crowd is screaming "YES!" and he looks at them like "Should I...?", you know he's working them.

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  142. I hate to say it but...yeah.

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  143. Bitches gonna bitch.

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  144. Eh, if you steal from a dying promotion, was there ever a forest to begin with?

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  145. Stranger in the AlpsJanuary 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    I didn't want to say it THAT way.

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  146. What I don't get is this contrarian point of view that "can't see" why people get upset about this. Here are the facts as I see them...

    But he's the biggest part of the show, right? You have Vince pre-Summerslam and HHH post-Summerslam tell the world Bryan isn't good or big enough (literally and figuratively). HHH scoffed at the notion that he should fight Bryan and said that Bryan wasn't a true attraction/star/main eventer a week before he actually main evented a show. Nice promotion.

    But he's main evented all of these shows, right? Yeah, he's main evented some of the sloppiest shows with no build since 1995 or 1996. Yay?

    But hasn't he been champion? Yeah, for a day and 7 minutes. Abeyance has been a more prestigious champion than Daniel Bryan.

    "Lulz at everyone saying he's buried & getting upset cuz I'm a smart smark and you're all dumb smarks"? Look, hypothetical motherfucker, some of us care deeply about this stuff. And even if we don't, we see the basic injustice in a guy receiving massive pops and merch sales for the last YEAR being completely unaligned and out of proportion with his current and projected position. It's dumb business and carny BS.

    I'm not even really upset about what's happened to DBry, but I completely understand why some would flip out. I don't understand those who don't understand, however.

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  147. Someone associating Triple H, the character with Paul Levesque, the man once again?

    I am shocked.

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  148. Where did I do this?

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  149. You didn't end your parenthesis.

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  150. Actually that is a great question. Did WWE approach him about it, or was it something he decided to do independent of WWE. OR did he start growing it out a bit and they chimed in telling him to keep it going.

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  151. Your last sentence pretty much gave it away.

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  152. They probably realized it would be easier to make toys and plushes because they wouldn't have to worry about too many details because of the beard.

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  153. MAH BOI D-BRY said he wanted to grow his hair out so he grew the beard so people wouldn't notice the hair.

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  154. LOL @ "basic injustice" being used to describe a guy whose become a millionaire doing what he loves

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  155. I have to admit, this was all worth it just to see the amount of butthurt unleashed across the intrawebs. People haven't been this worked up since Stevie Richards hugged his girlfriend too tight and she passed out.

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  156. There are only two people on this planet I'm more sick of hearing about than Daniel Bryan and both of them are Daniel Bryan.

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  157. Gimmick change = burial.

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  158. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    Agreed that Bryan's promo tomorrow will be huge. If he goes the "blame the fans, denigrate the Yes chants" route then it's a pretty clear sign that it's a "CM Punk last year heel turn" and not the "Cena in Nexus or HBK working for JBL" type deal. Once Bryan actively starts heeling on the fans, then its over.


    We'll see what happens, but if I had to bet I'd bet they go for the actual heel turn, so Bryan could feud with Cena, Batista and possibly work heel against Taker at Mania. It'll end up being an exact replica of the Punk heel turn in that he'll be able to put over the guys that WWE actually wants to push (like how Punk turned last year to put over Rock, Cena, and Taker), except unlike Punk I don't think Bryan will be nearly as fun as a heel. So yeah we'll see what happens, but I really disagree that it's some sort of "sky is falling" attitude to think that the Bryan turn is a long term thing. Based on WWE recent history, how they view Bryan, and the fact that Cena/Batista/Taker/Reigns are the main faces of the company, I think it's pretty logical to assume that WWE would rather kill off the Yes chants and let Bryan work heel. Honestly I'd bet that we see HHH work face again before Bryan.

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  159. He's earning more than last year, higher in the card, having competitive matches with the champion, hugely over, and in one of the top feuds on Raw.


    BURIED

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  160. I doubt you grasped the true nature of my post here. I'm not saying "woe is Bryan"--like I said, I'm not super upset about it. But having the fan reaction:push ratio become disproportionate as it has been is less offensive to me as a fan of Bryan and more offensive to me as a fan, period.

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  161. Some of us aren't salty 24/7.

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  162. Clearly Austin was buried.

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  163. I'm just going to copy and paste a response I typed up a minute ago because clearly you don't understand nuanced arguments or fight any details of the argument. You put words into my mouth and then slammed those words.

    "I doubt you grasped the true nature of my post here. I'm not saying
    "woe is Bryan"--like I said, I'm not super upset about it. But having
    the fan reaction:push ratio become disproportionate as it has been is
    less offensive to me as a fan of Bryan and more offensive to me as a
    fan, period."

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  164. Still better than Bischoff not seeing the magical image of Ultimate Warrior in a mirror even though Hogan, the announcers, and the TV audience all saw it...

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  165. CENA DID PUT BRYAN OVER.

    Jesus Christ... HE LOST CLEANLY. By pinfall.

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  166. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 1:31 PM

    But as a viewer, WWE is giving the fans the exact opposite of what they want. Yeah I'm sure Bryan Danielson the person will make good money working heel and putting over Cena/Batista/Reigns/Taker in the next year, but that's the opposite of what the fans want to see on this TV show.

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  167. I thought it was the Filthy Animals who buried Flair in a desert. Or did they do that twice?

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  168. Nah, you can't point to this as the one ting. WCW still had a lot of talent on the roster and a large TV audience. There was plenty of time to turn things around. The problem was that they just kept getting stupider and stupider and didn't do what they had to do to turn things around.

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  169. That's fine. I'm a Bryan fan also, but people are under the impression a heel turn = burial (way to kill his heat.) If je does turn heel and feud with the guys you mentioned, that would befucking awesome for him. If the scenario you laid out comes to fruition, he'd be in Main event level feuds with Cena, Batista, and Taker? How can people complain about that. He'd be going from the #3 slotted face to potentially main eventing things as a heel. It seems like the Bryan continent is just never satisfied with things.

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  170. That assumes he is going to turn heel, which we have NO basis for.

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  171. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    Well other than his heel turn last week. But aside from that, yeah, no basis for whether he's turning heel.

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  172. You mean the 'I hate myself for doing this, but I feel broken' heel turn where he didn't do anything heelish?

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  173. 'Nuanced arguments' + 'I press return erratically so my sentences look like shit' = RSPWFAQ.

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  174. The problem with the Bryan-Wyatt angle is that it is stupid to use a main-event guy to get a micard heel gimmick over. If this is anything but a ruse with Bryan and Kane possibly working together, it is a stupid angle. It's not about who Bryan is, but rather who the Wyatts are not.

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  175. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 1:56 PM

    I think a babyface hero admitting defeat, giving up, and begging for a heel's help is all pretty heelish— moreso in that it's the unlikeable pussy category. At least with say something like CM Punk's heel turn last year, his fans could still get behind the character because he was doing something proactive and bad-ass (attacking The Rock.) The way they're setting up the Bryan deal, its designed to put him in a position where his fans absolutely can't stick with him, because he's acting like a pussy.


    Listen, there's still the hope that the storyline is that Bryan (the character) is acting out some sort of ruse, and his plan is to use the Wyatts to win the Rumble, take down The Authority, and win the WWe title at Mania. But honestly, what single shred of evidence is there that WWE would want to book that? Going into Mania they clearly have Cena and Batista as their most valuable faces, plus Reigns is set to turn face any day now. Why would WWE book Bryan in the WWE title match over any of those guys?


    It just makes more sense that Vince/HHH/Steph would prefer to have Bryan as a heel to put their real faces over. Again, do you really think WWE is planning on turning Bryan face heading into Mania? It just wouldn't make sense based on how they value everyone.


    This absolutely is a heel turn. As I said elsewhere, Monday's promo will probably confirm it. Once he starts heeling on the crowd and blaming them and the Yes chants for ruining his life, it'll make him a full-blown heel.


    And sure maybe he gets Taker at Mania, and I'm sure like with Punk last year he'll put on a great match before eating a tombstone, but it'll be the opposite of what fans were asking for.


    Anyway, we'll see!

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  176. Not stupid at all actually. Just as Foley said recently, about how working with Sting in 91 and Taker in 96 helped so much.

    If a guy is super over and creative has nothing for him, why not use him to help get over a mustard guy with potential like Bray.

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  177. Fans want compelling television. What isn't compelling about MAH BOI D-WY?

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  178. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 2:12 PM

    A heel turn equals a burial of the storyline that the fans have been begging to see. Yes, I understand that for Bryan Danielson, he'll make a shitload of money when the "Daniel Bryan" character goes out there and acts like a pussy, heels on the crowd, and works great matches putting over Taker, Batista, cena etc.
    Zack Ryder was a burial. This is not a burial, obviously. So let's put the word "burial" aside, because I think people on both sides of this argument ("DB fans are whiny supersmarks who are never happy" vs "This storyline is absolute shit") are misusing it. DANIEL BRYAN ISN'T BEING BURIED.


    The problem for me and I think a lot of people is that they're once again going completely against the wishes of the fans. Again, DB turning heel and jobbing to the superfaces might be the best real-life scenario for him based on what HHH/Steph/Vince might be willing to book, but it's not what their fans have been asking to see for the past year. Fans haven't asked to see Bryan get dressed down by Cena as "a man who only says No to the fans and Yes to his own ego!", or watch Bryan "vow to end the Streak to make Papa Bray happy" before eating a tombstone, or stooge around the ring and run away from WWe Champion the unstoppable animal Batista at Extreme Rules. Yeah, none of those are burials, but they're also not what the crowd has been asking to see. So just in terms of this board, I don't see why it's a problem when people voice those opinions.


    Now obviously those above scenarios haven't happened yet and might never, but I'd wager that any of them is more likely than the scenario of DB using the Wyatts to win the Rumble and take down the Authority. And if that's the case, that's a sad statement on WWE booking for its fans.

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  179. Who's that? Wyatt's Daniel Bryan.

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  180. Worst_in_the_WorldJanuary 5, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    Because there's zero reason that creative shoudn't have something better for the most over guy in the company.

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  181. That was such a perfectly succinct way of describing the problem. Bravo.

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  182. I can't believe no one else thought of that.

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  183. Yet another example of why WordPress is soooo superior to Disqus.

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  184. Stranger in the AlpsJanuary 5, 2014 at 3:27 PM

    That needs to be submitted to Laffy Taffy.

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  185. Daniel Bryan has a clean, no bullshit & no fuckery pinfall over Vince's #1 guy at a major PPV in a match for THE title.

    lol buried am I rite guys?

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