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PG Era Retro Rant: Saturday Night's Main Event, 3.12.88

So I brought up this show in the discussion part of my Raw Recap post (see elsewhere), but I wanted to give it the full treatment. Then I remembered Scott was doing his SNME archive binge and checked with him first. Fortunately, he said “the more the merrier”, so here's my look at this shindig. Scott will be along with his later.


The PG Era Retro Rant for Saturday Night's Main Event, March 1988.

As with all SNMEs of the time, we open with a Pulp Interview segment. For those not around at the time, this basically means they cut from wrestler to wrestler with quickie commentary on the night's matches, with no rhyme or reason as to the order of appearance. The “Pulp” part – which I believe was first coined on Wrestleline, actually; Scott can back me up if he remembers – is because ECW would do this about once a month on their Hardcore TV shows in 1998-99, using Misrilou (aka “That Surf Guitar Solo From Pulp Fiction”) as background music. So today's speakers are:

  • Randy Savage, who tells DiBiase that money doesn't matter in the Danger Zone and he'll get bounced like a bad check;
  • Ted DiBiase, who says he has class to counter Macho's crazy;
  • Brutus Beefcake, who hypes his match with Greg Valentine;
  • Slick (on behalf of the One Man Gang), who mocks the US Olympic Team because Gang faces Ken Patera and promises Patera will lose;
  • Bobby Heenan and Harley Race, who promise Hulk Hogan will be on his hands and knees before the King;
  • and Hulk Hogan, who says that Harley Race will be crowned by a big right hand.

Live from Nashville, TN.

Your hosts are Vince McMahon and Jesse Ventura, who spend the first five minutes recapping Hogan/Andre from last month and looking at the bogus count like it's the Zapruder film. Each one accuses the other of being delusional and saying the other twin is crooked. (McMahon admits to being from the South here, while Ventura confirms Vince's neck is very red.) Luckily, the tournament for the vacated title will be held at WrestleMania IV.

Backstage to Mean Gene with Greg Valentine and Jimmy Hart. Hart puts over that this is the Dream Team meeting. Hart says prime rib Valentine will beat that rump roast Beefcake, while Valentine will tenderize Beefcake with the Hammer (Elbow). According to Okerlund's throw to the booth, Valentine was go-nowhere after the Dream Team breakup until hooking up with Jimmy Hart. Hart, by the way, more famously manages Intercontinental Champion Honky Tonk Man, who at WrestleMania IV will face Brutus Beefcake. INTRIGUE!

Later, Okerlund interviews Beefcake, who turns the whole interview into barber puns to the point that even Okerlund makes one.

Greg Valentine v. Brutus Beefcake. Brutus chases Valentine to the outside with his hedge clippers before the bell rings. Hebner removes the hedge clippers... then sees Beefcake also has barber shears and has to remove them, too. Valentine understandably is slow to enter. Lockup, and Beefcake shoves Valentine down. Valentine gets a kneelift and forearms, but a clothesline misses and Beefcake with a Harley Race Knee and bodyslam. Big boot by Brutus and Valentine does a Flair Flop. Beefcake struts and goes to town with rights before landing an atomic drop (complete with hilarious sell by Valentine), then another. Beefcake with a running jump elbow and jack-knife pin for two, which impresses Ventura. Ten punches in the corner and Valentine gets another Flair Flop. The ref breaks up a lockup in the corner, allowing Valentine to land a forearm to Brutus's head and some front elbows. Hammer Elbow off the top floors Brutus, then he winds up and drops a forearm for two. Valentine applies the Figure-Four right by the ropes, and both men grab it. Valentine has til five, you know. Valentine kicks Beefcake out of the ring, allowing Valentine to get in an argument with the ref. Must be Earl Hebner and not Dave because the ref tried to fight back. And then Honky Tonk Man steals the house mic to mock Beefcake and promise Brutus will never cut his hair or take his title. Hebner and the other referees escort Honky to the back as Ventura imagines Brutus is demoralized and we go to break.

Hammer/Barber, part two. Hammer pulls Barber up and throws him back in the ring, dropping another Hammer Elbow to the back of the head. More elbows to the skull (which at this point is 0% metallic), then a slam setting up the figure-four. Valentine with a headbutt to the, erm, gut, then he hyperextends the knees. Hammer rubs his sole of the boot into Brutus's calf like he's extinguishing a cigarette, but the figure-four is blocked when Beefcake pantses Valentine. A second try is kicked out of, and Beefcake recovers with a back elbow. Slugfest, won by Barber with massive chops, and another back elbow floors Valentine. Beefcake wants the sleeper, and he hooks it on as the crowd loves it. Valentine makes the ropes, and both men tumble outside. Hart revives Valentine, but Beefcake is up first with Polish Hammers. Back in, but Hart attacks Beefcake which Barber rightly no-sells to start a chase. He almost catches Hart, but Valentine stomps on Beefcake when Hart dives into the ring. Back suplex with a bridge ends it at 9:00 shown, but Beefcake's shoulder was clearly up at two. What gives? Oh, the ref was counting Valentine's shoulders down instead, so Beefcake wins. Eh, the double pin spot has its place – such as after a long match with a desperation move where both men are tired (Cena/Punk 2012 comes to mind) – but this wasn't it. Too bad, because it was a fun match with a veteran heel against a fired-up babyface. **1/2 Ventura is indignant at the decision because of course he is. Beefcake steals a lock of Valentine's hair as a reward, which infuriates the Hammer. Beefcake protects himself with the shears, which causes Hamer to freak out and run. Beefcake ALMOST catches Jimmy Hart instead.

Back to Gene Okerlund, who is with Bobby the Brain and Harley Race. Heenan is told the vacated crowd is on Heenan's shoulders, which Heenan gleefully claims. He loved seeing Andre the Giant beat Hogan and seeing the kids cry. And tonight, they'll see even worse when Harley Race humiliates Hogan by making him bow before the King. And if you at home wish to bow, go ahead. Race says that Hogan was proven mortal, and all mortals bow to the King. But wait, Heenan says Hogan will go so far as to kiss the feet of the King.

Back to Okerlund with Hogan now. Hogan refutes Hulkamania's death, saying that the juggernaut is running and Race is roadkill. Yeah, Heenan is smart – he sold Andre to DiBiase because it was the only way Andre could win. Hulk only bows to Jesus. And when Hogan's done, Race will be in pieces. Hogan tears his shirt backstage.

Harley Race v. Hulk Hogan. This is 1988, which is too bad because it's a 1985 dream match. In a neat bit of continuity, Hogan doesn't replace his shirt between interview and match, so it comes out pre-torn. If the storyline didn't make it clear, this match is like CM Punk and Curtis Axel last year – a lesser member of the heel stable paying for the sins of its ringleader. There's a lot of fighting before the bell, so I'm starting the clock on first contact. Hogan intimidates Heenan and chases him halfway up the aisle. Race catches Hogan sneaking in with elbows, but Hogan is in pure no-sell mode... until Race gets some headbutts. One too many just gets wakes Hogan up, and he unloads on Race with right hands. Of note: Hogan's right fist is taped in this match. Hogan rips his shirt as the bell rings 50 seconds in. Axe Bomber to Race as Heenan returns. A second Axe Bomber and Hogan clotheslines Race into the timekeeper's table (which back then was right next to the ring). On the outside, Race eats apron before being sent into the post like he's Rey Mysterio against Kevin Nash in 1996. Hogan has a chance to chase Heenan and gleefully does so, but Race recovers and takes over with axehandles. Piledriver try by Race on the floor, but Hogan backdrops out. Atomic drop, still on the floor as they have been for well over a minute as the crowd is loving it. Race eats more post, and Hogan rolls in and back out. Slam on the floor, and Hogan stomps away. Back in, Hogan with a bionic elbow and big chops. Hogan pounds away on Race's temple as even Ventura is impressed with how nuts Hogan is. Hogan chokes Race out with the tape that was on his fist, then a clothesline into a blatant choke. This is shades of Hollywood here. Hogan with right hands, then he chokes Race against the ropes. The ref pulls him away, but that just stalls for a second. Heenan tries to pull Hogan away, so Hogan strangles Heenan until Race pounds Hogan from behind. Headbutt and falling headbutt follow. Kneedrop softens Hogan up, and Race with a belly-to-belly suplex. Another kneedrop, this one across the throat, sets up a piledriver. Race stomps Hogan right on the forehead before tossing Hogan outside. Race moves the timekeeper table into position and sets Hogan on it, then goes to the apron for a falling headbutt... but Hogan moves and Race smashes the table so hard it craters! ECDUB! ECDUB! Anyway, Hogan can't recover, so Race throws him back in, though he's worse for wear. Some clubbering follows, then Race goes up for the diving headbutt. Race is as woozy as Hogan, but recovers in time to cover for... two. Hulk Up time, and Hogan doesn't even block a punch, kicking Race in the gut and getting two straight Axe Bombers before the Legdrop for the pin at 7:26. Heenan attacks from behind, but that just gets Hulk angry. And you won't like Hulk when he's angry! (I've been waiting for months to write that.) Heenan manages to escape. **1/2 About that table spot: it was pretty clear the table wasn't prepped beforehand – the steel supports were still in – which wound up doing a number on Race. In fact, internal injuries he suffered on that spot basically convinced Race to hang them up.

Back to Gene, who's with Ted DiBiase and Virgil. DiBiase: “Hogan isn't quite the same without the belt, is he?” DiBiase doesn't have it either, but that'll be settled at Mania. Earlier on – during the Pulp Interview – DiBiase said he'd have something or someone worth his weight in gold. DiBiase dismisses speculation and threatens Savage, saying he (DiBiase) destroyed Hulkamania. Savage thinks he's macho for having a hot babe? Riches are macho. And he's going to learn that here.

And now, the Macho Man's rebuttal. He isn't worried about the surprise in his corner. DiBiase couldn't buy the title or Hulkamania, and now he's going after Macho Madness. DiBiase's like one of his checks: he's about to get bounced. Elizabeth is worth WAY more than her weight in gold – she's a platinum doll. So there. Let's go cash in!

Ted DiBiase v. Randy Savage. Vince says Ventura is the secret DiBiase has, but he denies it. By the way, this is the main event of WrestleMania IV just three weeks down the line, but no one could predict that. And DiBiase's secret weapon: Andre the Giant in his corner. Savage sees Virgil talk to Elizabeth and fires to the outside to beat him up, but DiBiase attacks Savage and throws him in. Into the buckle goes Savage, and DiBiase fires away in the corner. He chokes Savage against the top rope, catapulting him back. Back elbow and DiBiase trash talks Elizabeth before picking Savage up and sending him into the corner headfirst. DiBiase works the gut in the corner, then promises he'll take the belt. DiBiase to the second rope, and he drops a bionic elbow. Blatant choke by DiBiase, over and over, and Andre adds a shove to Savage behind the ref's back. Vince says the Hebners have been fingerprinted to prevent shenanigans as Savage reverses a Hammer Throw and gets an elbow and jumping kick. A knee to the back sends DiBiase over and out, and Savage follows to get him back in. Flying axhandle by Savage, and DiBiase begs off. A kick by DiBiase is caught into a clothesline for two. Savage with his Hotshot on DiBiase, and he returns with a big kick and running elbowsmash. DiBiase falls out of the ring, and Savage INVITES HIM BACK IN. Ha! DiBiase consults with Andre before stalling and making his way to the apron. DiBiase comes in with a knee to the gut and clubs away before dropping some Million Dollar Fists. DiBiase chops Savage into the corner, but a blind charge eats knees. Savage with an elbowdrop (from the mat, sadly) for two. Slam, but the kneedrop misses. DiBiase with the spinning toe hold, but Savage kicks DiBiase out of the ring again. DiBiase drags Savage out with him, but Savage slams DiBiase into the apron. Suplex try, but Andre distracts Savage and Virgil cheapshots him. The referee ejects Virgil from ringside, with Andre telling him to just go and that he has it from here.

Savage/DiBiase, part two. DiBiase back in and to the second rope with an axhandle. Running elbowdrop gets two. We hit the chinlock as we look over Elizabeth's shoulder. DiBiase does the Dolph Ziggler leg lift to add leverage, but Savage gets the arm up on a KO check. DiBiase uses the hair to maintain the chinlock, adding knees to the back. Savage fights to his feet, elbowing out of it and getting a tackle. Criss-crossing leads to a lariat by Savage, and a Hammer Throw is followed by a bionic elbow and back body drop. DiBiase begs off but goes to the eyes, and the referee is wiped out on a criss-cross. Savage dumps DiBiase and dives off with an axhandle. Andre saunters over and headbutts Savage down before sending him into the post. Elizabeth is worried. DiBiase comes back in and wakes up the ref as Elizabeth runs to the back. Ventura calls Liz an abandoner as Andre tosses Savage left and right and chops away. Meanwhile, DiBiase wakes the referee up and makes sure the referee looks ONLY AT HIM while Andre pounds away. The crowd demands Hogan to make the save, but it's too late and Savage is done. Countout follows at 11:40 shown. *** Andre continues the beating post-match, as does Virgil (hey, the match is over, he's not ejected anymore). Many-teaming continues until Hulk Hogan returns with a chair and sends everyone scattering. Elizabeth is with Hogan when he shows up, leading to the assumption that Liz was off to get Hogan. Or because it's suddenly safe with Hogan around. Depending on which announcer you ask, of course. Hogan helps Savage to the back.

Vince: “Look at Savage and Elizabeth – with the Hulkster between them!”
Jesse: “Yeah, the Hulkster might get between them at WrestleMania!”

One year off, Jesse. One year off.

Anyway, Ventura “races” to the back to interview Heenan (who is now in a beekeeper's outfit with a leash) and the Islanders. Oh, yeah, this would be during the “Matilda is stolen” angle that was... just... weird. It's his tribute to the Wild Kingdom. The Islanders love animals, as we can tell from their barking. The Bees will be down to wax that Gene Okerlund will shine his head with.

Killer Bees v. Islanders. The Killer Bees as Jim Brunzell (who later became a great enhancement talent in the early Raw era) and Brian Blair, famous for being the subject of a YouTube rant that turned Iron Sheik into everyone's crazy grandpa. The Islanders are Tama and THEMONSTERMENG... er, I mean, Haku. Ventura “races” back to commentary, pretending to be out of breath as he arrives. Brunzell attacks Tama and gets a slam and legdrop for two, brother. Blair in with an elbow to the arm off the second rope, then a cradle for two. Brunzell back in to continue the arm work, into a hiptoss and armlock. Tama goes for the ride but misses a dropkick, allowing Tama a headbutt as Vince and Jesse go on a sidebar about the tights being worn. Back scratch and suplex by Tama, getting two. Haku in, and he gets a clubbing blow and dropkick for two. He sends Brunzell into Tama's foot and makes the tag, but Brunzell fights out with an inverted atomic drop. Haku tags himself in and chops away, but a double clothesline follows. Tama in, but he can't stop Brunzell from reaching Blair. Blair with an atomic drop and Haku gets sent flying too. Slam to Tama, then Haku, but Tama rakes the eyes to stop momentum. Blair rolls up Tama, but Haku enters to save, but Brunzell cuts him off, BUT that causes the ref to stop the count and clear the ring. Haku lariats Blair, and Tama's on top for the pin at 3:39. *1/4

Okerlund (getting paid overtime tonight) is with Slick and the Gang. Okerlund brings up the US Olympic comments, and Slick re-iterates that the US team is Losers with a capital L. And Okerlund should know – his son was on the loser hockey team! (Wait, he was? [checks Wikipedia] Dang, he was!) And besides, if they were such losers, why call in George Steinbrenner? Okerlund: “He'll help the team.” This marks the last time any babyface said anything nice about Steinbrenner on TV. Slick then says forget about the Olympic team – who needs a team when you have a Gang?

One Man Gang v. Ken Patera. Gang attacks Patera as he's removing his track pants, clubbing away and choking him with the pants. He strangles Patera against the ropes and clubs some more, adding right hands. Patera slugs back, rocking the Gang, then kicks him in the corner and sends him across the ring... before hooking on a bearhug! Even the announcers are impressed. Patera even gets Gang off the ground – not far, and not for long, but off the ground. Gang rakes the eyes to break, then does more CLUBBERIN, THEY BE CLUBBERIN TONY! Patera ducks one and gets the full nelson out of nowhere, but Gang makes the ropes. Patera keeps up the offense with forearms and elbows, but Gang reverses and softens Patera's gut in the corner. More body squashes by the Gang, but Patera reverses and works Gang's gut instead. A right hand sets up a corner whip and knee in the corner. It's ten punches from there, then he keeps up the striking, but Gang with a Vader attack and he falls on top for the pin at 3:07. Was that match cut for time constraints? 1/2* Gang keeps attacking, but Patera knocks Gang down with a second-rope forearm. He gets Gang up for a slam, but Slick enters with the cane to wiggle Gang free.

Hulk Hogan gets the last words with Mean Gene. He's laughing maniacally. Okerlund's even concerned. But Hogan says he's in Stark Raving Maniac mode. As far as Hulk goes, everyone who was involved in the payoff announced the rules no longer apply. Fee, Fi, Fo, Fum! Andre the Giant, here I come!

Vince and Jesse wrap things up, hyping the Championship Tournament.

THOUGHTS:

Hey, for free TV we had a pretty darn good show! You got a long-overdue tag team blowoff, you got a shockingly vicious brawl and Hogan showing more fire than he had to, and Savage/DiBiase was just enough of an appetizer for the house show circuit after WrestleMania IV. Heck, even Patera and the Gang seemed motivated, even though it was all punch-kick between them. It's only an hour or so once they cut out the commercials, so definitely worth a watch. One of the best SNMEs, and one that wouldn't be out of place as a SmackDown today... assuming you threw in some angle advancement, of course.

STATS:

MATCH TIME: 34:52 over five matches
BEST MATCH: Savage/DiBiase
WORST MATCH: Gang/Patera
NIGHT MVP: Brutus Beefcake for winning the feud and cutting Valentine's hair

FINAL SCORE: 7.5. It's too bad this show wasn't in front of a better WrestleMania, but it stands out on its own. The usual weak ending, but no one was watching past the first three matches anyway, which delivered in spades. Hey, I saw three (or four, if you include Bees/Islanders) passable matches in an hour's worth of watching. That's a great number even today!

Scott, your turn.

Comments

  1. Such a simple angle. Take a guy with insecurity, plant thoughts in his head, corrupt him, and reap the rewards. Heenan played Orndorff like a fiddle, and it worked beautifully.

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  2. Went to type out a small rebooking scenario but realized Wrestlemania IV stemmed from the most watched wrestling program in history so really anything I could suggest is moot.

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  3. I love ventura ragging on vince about being obsessed with beefcake's nylons lol.

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  4. More of these reviews please.

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  5. CruelConnectionNumber2July 22, 2014 at 7:54 PM

    Please do, Mania IV is not only the worst Mania but one of the worst major wrestling cards ever.

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  6. It did look very good on paper, but yep, just too long, and too many filler matches. Maybe an 8 man tournament would have been better.

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  7. Confused about the Race thing -- Race clearly gets injured here -- but kept on wrestling for at least another month -- including the Battle Royal at Mania 4. Then they don't even kayfaybe the injury until June/July -- making you think Hogan injured Race the week before instead of like two months before. Plus, Race did make a comeback of sorts in 1988-89 before packing it up and there is a rumor he went elsewhere to continue to wrestle -- but then finally settled as a manager in WCW to Luger and then Vader.

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  8. Savage was gassed and had no time to build a proper story with Dibiase given all the overbooking.

    Roberts and Rude just didn't click.

    Savage and Steamboat weren't allowed to have that rematch (Steamboat still being punished)

    Bam Bam was on his way out the door and didn't have that same spark he showed at the 87 Survivor Series.

    You're right that the potential was there, but it certainly wasn't lived up to.

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  9. Do all The Main Events they are chalk-full of history.

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  10. I hope they post the November 1990 one -- I'll do that next time. It can go with the Survivor Series rant I did over Christmas last.

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  11. I agree. Could have stood to drop some of the dead weight from the tournament. I still think WrestleMania V is worse than IV because IV at least had a running storyline through the show that for macho fans can make it very memorable.

    V seemingly has just as many matches and just as much filler.

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  12. I wonder if IV and V could've been improved by not being held in Atlantic City, where most of the crowd had heard of Hogan, Savage, Andre, and Piper at best. They weren't very interested.

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  13. It wasn't immediate, no. But he's cited this match as the injury that led to his retirement. For me, the bigger surprise is Race being in the Heenan Family. It's clear Harley didn't need a mouthpiece if he was good AS a mouthpiece.

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  14. I agree. Never made sense to me either

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  15. Simple feuds work so much better in wrestling.
    Take a look at Swagger/Rusev. That is not some intricate plot. Its easy evil foreigner vs. American. As simple as it gets.
    Forget the soap opera writers, just stick to the basics.

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  16. WrestleMania 4 had only three possible endings -- Hogan wins his belt back, Diabise wins the belt -- or Savage wins the belt. There were no other options in 1988. We already know in kayfaybe terms that Andre is about helping his boss advance and not winning titles.
    If I was rebooking WrestleMania 4 -- because of the partying they all did the night before -- I doubt it would have been much different.
    I'd probably cut the Battle Royale, although I kind of liked the Bret Hart face turn.
    Dibaise would still destroy Hacksaw.
    Muraco should still get the win over Bravo. Their match was decent with the piledriver spot -- but the DQ spot killed it.
    Steamboat, whether in the dog house or not, should have least won against Valentine by DQ or something.
    Savage destroys Reed as he did.
    I'd change the last two matches to Jake vs. Gang and Rude vs. Bigelow. I'd book the Jake/Gang match similar to the Bundy match on SNME and Jake loses by DQ. Bam Bam and Rude can do some kind of DDQ or DCO or something.
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    Hulk/Andre might still be a Double DQ -- although it might have been more interesting if Hogan could have won this one by countout or something. But then Hogan winning only really works if -- A. Hogan is winning the title back or B. Dibase is winning the title. Hogan loses by DQ or countout to Dibase and then Dibase easily beats Savage by a miscommunication spot caused by Hogan. Don't see Hogan vs. Dibise working either way -- even if Savage still ended up winning. Hogan vs. Dibise only works as a final, or a quarter-final that sets up Hogan costing Savage the title in a "accident" that leaves Hogan to shoot movies as a face and has Macho turn heel again or something. After long thought, both guys get DDQed as they did.
    Dibise beats Muraco -- I'd use the SNME match booking they did in April over WrestleMania though.
    Savage beats Steamboat -- I would have liked to seen Steamboat's bow out match been with Savage in a twenty minute match. It would have never touched Mania 3, but it would have been different.
    Gang still gets his bye
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    Dibaise gets his bye
    Savage beats Gang --- booking of their SNME match over the WrestleMania one.
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    Savage still beats Dibiase with Hogan's help -- I just don't see it going down differently.
    [Sidenote: although WrestleMania 4 is not good, the Coliseum Video interviews of Dibaise in his "locker room" is classic -- "You won't see the Million Dollar Man in some stinky, dingy locker room with a bunch of bubbling bafoons."]

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  17. Mister_E_KindaBuzzedAllBecauseJuly 22, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    There really weren't a lot of heels without managers during that time though.

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  18. Unfortunately, Bam Bam was injured at the time and couldn't advance. Gang couldn't work 3 matches because of his size & lack of stamina. Thus, Roberts/Rude had to be a draw.
    Steamboat absolutely needed to go over & do the rematch to pass the torch to Savage. Major faux pas there.

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  19. Those Atlantic City crowds were HORRIBLE, and I think it did affect the show a bit, have them at MSG instead, might be a bit of a difference.

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  20. If Race rested and healed after this match he probably wouldn't have needed to retire when he did.

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  21. He seemed so old to me as a kid. I thought he was like my grandpa with blonde hair.

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  22. Nicknamed the Tombs by meltzer. Imo it's like the new Yankee stadium. High priced customers lacking the passionate die hards

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  23. ARRRRGH THE BARBARIANJuly 22, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    They booked themselves into a corner, I think the best finish going forward (since in the 4 PPV a year world, Dibiase can't win) would have been Savage over Hogan. Flip the finish. Dibiase nails Hogan with the chair while Savage is down. Savage doesn't down, drops the elbow and wins the title.


    Does this hurt Savage, yeah, I guess, but he still won because of help anyway. And this builds into the turn coming down the road.

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  24. Yeah, the Boers should probably have out Nelson Mandela over a few more times before he died.

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  25. TM CooltrainerBretJuly 22, 2014 at 10:22 PM

    Yeah, but a bunch of political leaders put him over during their money promos.

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  26. something something Col. DeBeers something something

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  27. Also if not for this show this angle none of us would be here as Scott has said many times this was the angle that made him a fan. So no this no blog of doom

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  28. Race is a tough motherf*cking SOB. Simple.

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  29. I think part of it too was not wanting Steamboat to split Savage's pops. Against Valentine, Savage was the clear face.

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  30. Wouldn't Wrestlemania 4 be improved by simply trimming a round from the tournament?


    Something like:
    - Savage over Valentine
    - Dibiase over Steamboat (tease the Steamer-Savage re-match)
    - Hogan over Andre (Hogan wins by DQ but gets 'injured' to soften him for later)
    - Gang over Bigelow


    - Savage over Gang
    - Dibiase over Hogan (via shenanigans)


    - Savage over Dibiase for the vacant title


    * Guys who are left out of these rounds can go into the Battle Royale or something. ANYthing to cut some of the boredom from that tournament

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  31. First heel turn I ever saw.

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  32. What is funny I can't picture this Harley Race being the same NWA Champion Harley Race, let alone being Vader's manager Harley Race.

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  33. They didn't, because they couldn't,
    afterall,
    I'm sure you wouldn't have wanted to see White folk lose everything and be forced to flee back to their mother continent, broke.
    As it went,
    Black folk got political power,
    White folk continue to own the wealth

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  34. Diamonds, Gold, Farms.....

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