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Pro Wrestling Diaries Shoot Interview with King Kong Bundy, Disc Two

This disc runs at 54 minutes long


Bundy said that it was the office’s idea to have him elbow drop Little Beaver but said that when Beaver slapped him with his moccasin, it stung like hell. Bundy makes a joke about how it wasn’t the first time he was a little hard on the Beaver but said he did slam him hard that night and the other midgets missed the cue and he had to again yell that he was going to splash Beaver in order for them to come in and stop the assault. He then talks about how Bret Hart said in his book that he (Bundy) hated the midget angle because he thought he was a serious heel. Bundy claims to have never said anything like that then goes on to say how Bret mailed him a copy of his book and recalls how Bret once called him to say he wanted to send him his book. Bundy said he told Bret that he was a real fucking asshole when he had the belt, to which Bret replied that it went with the territory. Bundy said that was bullshit because plenty of champs did not act like that then says that the point to all of this was that Bret did not want to initiate any sort of contact with Bundy at all and just wanted him to have a copy of his book so he could read his ramblings of his glorious career. He then jokes about how Bret talks about his legacy, like he is Tom Brady or something, and talks about he became the champ because someone gave it to him. Bundy then laughs at the ridiculous of Bret and said that he used to be friends with him before he became the champ.


He is asked about several other guys. Bundy said that Butch always joked about how he was racist and said that he was a good guy. Bundy did not like Hercules and said how he had to give him $200 once because he slapped around his girlfriend and needed to get out of town. He also recalls one time that Hercules once said while high that it would be a great idea to get a gun and shoot some cops. Bundy said George Steele was a good guy but turned into a stooge when he became an agent. He said that Don Muraco was a good guy. Bundy said that Superstar Billy Graham was an asshole and said how he started the steroid controversy and complained about not being able to work due to injuries, prompting Bundy to say he should get a regular job. Bundy likes Tito Santana but said he never liked to lose and that he was cheap. But not nearly as cheap as Nikolai Volkoff, who was also a nice guy. He likes the Wild Samoans. Bundy said Billy Jack Haynes was a good guy and once beat the shit out of Iron Mike Sharpe. He said that Haynes was a very tough guy.


Bundy talks about the Honky Tonk Man and said that he is ignorant and arrogant and likes it that way. He calls Jake Roberts a mess and said that he lent him money once and it took him 40 phone calls to get it back. Bundy said that Roberts is a typical wrestler’s kid.


He talks about Bam Bam Bigelow and how he became broke chasing his dream of owning two homes filled with all sorts of luxuries.


On why he left the WWF in the 80’s, he said that it was time to go. He then got a few film roles. Bundy said that he was supposed to be “Running Man” and said that the “big, fat guy wearing lights” and was offered $12,500 a week for ten weeks but this was when he was doing the Machines angle with Andre and couldn’t leave then shortly after that, Andre ended the angle to film the “Princess Bride.”


When asked about “Married with Children,” Bundy said that the creators were big wrestling fans and that was why the neighbors were the “Rhoades,” after Dusty (although spelled differently).


In between his return to the WWF, Bundy worked for a computer company and then owned a bar. He then decided to go back and worked a match in ECW when the WWF called. He was managed by Ted DiBiase, who Bundy liked but said was not a good manager. Bundy said that his match against the Undertaker sucked. He also said that the Undertaker kept saying that he should be on top and Bundy said that he was a sour guy.


Bundy puts over the Bam Bam/ Lawrence Taylor match from WrestleMania and said that LT was gassed after the match.


On being released from the WWF, Bundy said that they wanted to put him in a program with Henry Goodwin and he thought it was terrible.


When asked about today’s wrestling, he says that stuff looks choreographed and goes off on internet fans who love smaller wrestlers because of the highspots. He said that when you watch wrestling, you want to see someone bigger than life, not someone as short as Rey Mysterio because if you look at a guy and think you can kick their ass, then something is wrong with the business.


Bundy goes back to the WWF during his last run and said how there was no money at all in the WWF and that they were doing shows and RAW’s in high school gymnasiums then goes back to Bret Hart in his book crowing about how he was a great champion.


He is asked what makes a good heel. Bundy said that there are two types of heels, the monster heel and the sneaky heel. He said both of them can draw heat. He also said that you have to be a guy who doesn’t mind getting beat.


His favorite place to wrestle was in Toronto. The worst was the Nassau Coliseum as people would throw batteries at you.


When asked about how wrestling has changed, Bundy said that the business is deader than Elvis and you no longer see people wearing wrestling shirts. He said the hottest period was with The Rock and Austin with the second best being the “Hulkamania” era.


Bundy said he was never a fan of women’s wrestling and joked how they are better at cooking and housecleaning.


He talks about doing stand-up comedy and how he keeps getting better at it and has performed over 50 times but he had foot problems and could not stand on stage for a while.


Now, they talk about the Iron Sheik’s roast and the incident in which Scott Hall attacked a comic after they made reference to Owen Hart’s death. Bundy said that everything goes in a roast but the comic probably should not have said that. Bundy then said that Hall is a moron and that it was a combination of booze and people in the crowd egging him on by chanting “Razor.” Bundy said that he mocked Hall when he went on as he pretending to act drunk and act pissed over someone making a joke about the Fabulous Moolah’s pussy.


Bundy said that he might write a book someday then likes the books that Catcus and The Rock did but slams Bret some more over his book. He said that Bret had a picture in his book and a caption that read Heartthrob, or at least that is what the guys told me which has Bundy go off on a funny bit about what the fuck does that even mean and if guys came up to Bret saying that he was sexy and had a nice ass.


When asked about the WWE Hall of Fame, Bundy sarcastically said that he is not worthy when you have men who have had the careers like Koko B. Ware did are included. Bundy said that he put over Koko more than he did and how guys like Pete Rose and Johnny Rodz are not included. Bundy said that he doesn’t care and is not bitter at all that he is not included.


He says that on the independent scene today, there are some guys that have far-fetched match ideas. He tells a story about how some guy who was so fat that it made him look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, complained that his match went on before Jimmy Snuka’s. Bundy said it was ridiculous for him to think he was worthy of main-eventing over Snuka.


Bundy is asked his three favorite matches and said it was WrestleMania 1-3 stuff, with the 3rd being his favorite.


He is asked how he wants to be remembered and said that he did the best he could to make his opponent look good. He then said that Chris Jericho stole the “Jerichoholics” phrase from him when he used the “Bundyholics” and jokes how he will shove his “woodpecker head” up his ass.


Final Thoughts:  Bundy certainly wasn’t afraid to dish the dirt here. Also, he ripped Bret Hart to shreds for his book, which was pretty funny.

I thought Bundy came off as a likable guy in this shoot. Being that he is currently involved in stand-up comedy he was trying to channel that in talking about some of the other wrestlers, especially Bret.

This shoot also included extra bonus features and matches, which I did not really explore.

I give this a high recommendation.

Comments

  1. Oscar, Jeff Jarrett and a waitress at Denny's.

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  2. Nice. That's my "If you could have dinner with 3 people alive or dead..." list.

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  3. I dunno how you come away from at thinking Bundy is likable. He seems like a giant dick. Fuck that guy.

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  4. If I looked at Bundy and Rey side by side, I'd be much more confident I could kick Bundys ass.

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  5. Summerslam 94?

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  6. Is that the Grouch, the rapper, or the Bluth?

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  7. He was trying to be and stand up for this disc and he didn't hold any grudges against anyone.

    The burying Bret stuff was a riot. Is there anyone in wrestling more arrogant or full of themselves as Bret?

    He deserves to get bashed.

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  8. Bundy is a homophobe, and probably a racist.

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  9. You fight 400 pound men on the reg?

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  10. May be true, but they obviously differ on what they think wrestling is. If I had a choice between 100 Bret matches and 100 Bundy matches, I know exactly what I'M going to watch.

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  11. He is a homophobe for using the word "fag?"

    And how is he probably racist?

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  12. I would have thought MMA would have killed this line of thinking off by now but guys like Bundy refuse to let it die.

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  13. Well yeah but Bundy admitted that he wasn't having good matches and is a big guy. He flat out said he was not championship material and correctly pointed out Bret's ridiculous claims of being a great champion

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  14. How much merchandise has Rey Mysterio moved in his career? Someone tell that to Bundy.

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  15. I thought Bundy came off pretty cool on the first disc but I hate when old wrestlers act like guys who want to have good matches, either for the fans or for themselves, are idiots. Also Rey Mysterio has probably 30 times as much money as Bundy so maybe "looking like you could kick someone's ass" isn't as important as putting on amazing matches and doing spots?

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  16. That's a dumb comment

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  17. The first disc wasn't a bad look for him but this part is pretty much crazy talk.

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  18. Although I did not include it in the write up, when talking about MMA, he said that any boxer of any size could beat any sized MMA fighter in a boxing match due to the boxer's skills being so much better

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  19. Yes. And anybody who thinks a racist is a good guy, I'm probably gonna assume that person is too.

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  20. You could print this out and put it in your pocket in case you ever get confused while watching wrestling.

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  21. Bundy was trying to be a stand up in this shoot.

    But I agree with Konnan, who when talking about Kevin Nash saying no one could believe that Rey could kick someone's ass, said no one thinks like that and they just look at him and see a guy who does cool moves

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  22. There is nothing intimating about a big fat guy who has to move his whole body to look to his right.

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  23. And how is he racist?

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  24. Well, he is a white guy over the age of 40.

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  25. I said he is probably a racist.

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  26. Konnan is a guy who really gets the business, and I've learned more about mexico, its government, culture, and history from that guy than anywhere else.

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  27. That part did seem pretty funny.

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  28. More insightful comments from Bundy. A boxer can beat a MMA guy in a boxing match?!? Get the fuck out of town.

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  29. What's ridiculous about that? Bret put on some great matches. Or are we talking about how much money he drew?

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  30. After reading Bret's book i came away thinking a little less of him. I somewhat agree with Bundy's thoughts. The guy was a great in ring performer no question but he is so full of himself.

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  31. You couldn't kick Bundy's ass.

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  32. To be fair, Bundy was a heel at a time when heels weren't allowed to sell merch. He also spent 90% of his career as a heel, and the time that was spent as a face was when he was breaking into the business. The guy worked a program with Hulk Hogan at Hogan's peak. I'd say that's still pretty legit.

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  33. Right because a guy with 400lbs behind a punch can't possibly cause any damage

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  34. That isn't what I wrote. And for the record, I probably could.

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  35. It was.

    And for the record, I disagree with Bundy about smaller wrestlers but a lot of big guys feel the same way.

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  36. I don't know. The discussion of Andre using racial slurs and Bundy talking about Bad News Brown seemed to be done in a way to make Andre look bad. Bundy's definitely a homophone, but I don't think he's racist.

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  37. I'm not giving someone who thinks a racist is a good guy the benefit of the doubt.

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  38. Plus Bundy did not spent all that long as a active wrestler.

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  39. Cult, are the you the guy that emailed Scott saying you could beat up Ziggler?

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  40. Bret thinking he was a great champion, when he wasn't drawing money. Like Bundy said, you are given the belt, it is not won like a sports championship.

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  41. Exactly. Fans know it's a work these days, so the days of wrestlers having to be menacing, supersized monsters to be believable have long since passed. It's usually the big slugs that hang onto this belief with all their might.

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  42. I agree. The guy is very astute when it comes to wrestling.


    Speaking of Nash, anyone know the story of him slapping The Rock around? Seems like primo bullshit to me...

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  43. I like how Smothers kicked back the heels he worked with a cut of his merch.

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  44. You're really showing him!!!

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  45. Well, I guess I'm kinda split down the middle on what makes a great champion. Yes, money drawn is a big factor, but for me, so is putting on great matches and entertaining the people. I'm not sure that Ric Flair was drawing a lot of money during his incredible 1989 run, but he was damn sure a great champion that year.

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  46. Was that the part about Butch?

    It was Butch Reed who he was talking about. That is my bad. He was friend with Butch, who would jokingly call Bundy racist

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  47. Smothers seems like a good guy.

    Lots of people like him.

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  48. Not really. Only if a guy like that gets you on the ground.

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  49. And almost any NFL player will beat a rugby player in a game of American Football. The statement doesn't mean anything. I'd hope the boxer could beat the MMA guy in boxing, it's supposed to be his skill.

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  50. You should be happy to know that the Ranger Ross came in the mail today

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  51. What's odd is that Bundy's mentality is very of his era. Before the 80s a guy like Verne would have run him out of the business and after 1993 or so he was correctly seen as a relic. I like the guy for pure entertainment value, but I'm not going to keep watching the same big guy match.

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  52. I liked that Bret held nothing back and told all in regards to having been an asshole at times. Well, many times. It made him human. I mean, he could have NOT written all that stuff out, maintaining the clean-cut superhero image he so desperately hung onto as champion. As a kid I looked up to Bret, and for that I shall remain thankful.

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  53. Disagree. Back then, championships were a HUGE deal to wrestlers because they were the big money/top position in the industry. Sure, it's a "fake" sport but don't we like/admire wrestlers who are intense about wrestling as opposed to those who just seem to coast?

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  54. You're so terrible.

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  55. Yeah, man. Fuck those middle-aged honkeys.

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  56. LOL. I'll upvote because the comment made me laugh.

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  57. He goes around county to county, challenging the local fatty.

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  58. For someone who talks about how great they were, Bret did not draw as the champ and really, how else can you measure who was the greatest championship.

    In a predetermined sport, the amount of money you can draw on top is what distinguishes who is the better champ.

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  59. I look at historical context. WWF was in one of its worst states ever with Vince's trial, sex abuse allegations and lack of positive notoriety in the public sphere. Couldn't it be that based on the athletic contributions of Hart and Michaels who, despite not drawing the same as a Hogan and Austin, kept the company afloat when it could easily have folded?

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  60. Too bad they didn't ask about the Juggalo wrestling thing. That sounded like it should be full of good stories.

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  61. Always thought it was strange Owen & Bob Backlund got jobbed out in the Rumble that year when the RR roster was at it's all-time lowest.


    Those 2 along with HBK,Bulldog & Lex are literally the only guys in the Rumble to have ANY chance of winning.

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  62. When diesel doesn't draw, it's because he sucks. When Bret doesn't draw, it's because everybody else sucks. Noted.

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  63. Stranger in the AlpsJuly 11, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    This reads like Bundy didn't give a shit who he pissed off by telling the truth, which should be the point of these shoots. He's out of the business, doesn't sound bitter, IS STILL ALIVE (most important), but like all the guys from his era, he doesn't understand that the business has evolved from his day.

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  64. Wrestling was in a bad state in 1996 then Hogan re-invented himself as a heel and it took off.

    He also took over in 1984, when the WWF was struggling.

    Hogan is arguably the greatest champion of all time

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  65. Wasn't Bret reacting to Owen and Backlund attacking HIM in the WWF Title match against Diesel? The title match ended in a draw because of the interference (Michaels, Jeff Jarrett and Road Dogg attacked Diesel, also), and Bret, annoyed he lost his shot at the title earlier, cost Owen and Backlund a shot at the title later.


    It was never a NEW feud, it was a continuation of a year-plus-long back and forth.

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  66. Bret as a worker was a brilliant champion...one of the very first. So was Shawn, and the business was at the low point for WWF when he held the title. I never think of a champion being judged by the box office, especially when there are other factors in a company going through issues. I think of who does excellent in-ring work...makes me want to watch him wrestle again, and Bret more than provided that.

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  67. I found it telling that a guy from the Hogan era called the Hogan era the second hottest period for the business. I'm not sure other guys from the 1980s Hogan boom would admit that.

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  68. They did finally blow off Bret/Owen one last time in a no holds barred match on a raw soon to be uploaded to the network between the rumble and mania.

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  69. The emailer is skipping the google search by bugging Scott in the first place.

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  70. Owen was about to get the tag belts in an era where they still meant something; hardly being pushed down the card.

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  71. Besides Summerslam, the first Action Zone, a tag match on Raw and EVERY house show after Wrestlemania X, yeah.

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  72. I'm not questioning the legitimacy of Bundy himself. I'm questioning his claim that no one would/should care about smaller wrestlers. It doesn't matter much anymore. Ex: WM 30

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  73. That's the exact line of thinking most wrestling fans have adopted. Daniel Bryan's skills are perceived to be better than most other guys so it's not unbelievable for him to be champion.

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  74. Michael Anthony PeguesJuly 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    Never really got all the Bret hate. Yeah, he's arrogant, and perhaps he thinks hes a little greater than he actually was, but there can be no doubt whatsoever that he was a true artist in the ring. People like to bash him for constantly referring his "legacy", as if he's the only wrestler to ever do this. Do people think that Shawn's artistic legacy isn't a key part of his self-image? What about Flair? Seems like people just like to harp on Bret because he constantly tries to distance himself from the "I was a circus performer/All I cared about was the money" perspectives of guys like Nash, Bundy,New Jack (ya know, guys that simply can't touch the art of guys like Shawn and Bret). As fans, would we rather see someone who obviously doesn't give a flying fuck (like Nash) or someone who perhaps cares a tad too much (Bret)? That's not a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely curious.

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  75. Gah, owned. I shouldn't be allowed to comment on wrestling. :(

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  76. Exactly. If Bret didn't have that self-confidence and carried himself like he deserved to be world champ, he would have never become a big star. Vince likes guys who have an ego because he has a monstrous one himself. At least, that was the case in the past...something tells me Dolph Ziggler would have been a fave of the old Vince.


    And I much rather see someone who gives a shit about wrestling. That's why I love Austin's podcast so much and don't really care to listen to Goldberg's.

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  77. It as a disappointment to use them for so little amount of time, but honestly... it's a Rumble where the following list were included: Mantaur, Aldo Montoya, Well Dunn, New Headshrinkers, The Blu Twins, The Bushwhackers, Kwang, Doink, The Heavenly Bodies, Duke Droese, Mo, and Henry Godwinn.

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  78. King Kong Bundy--the least talented wrestler to ever close out a Wrestlemania. And we must remember that LT once went on last.

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  79. YankeesHoganTripleHFanJuly 11, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    LT was the greatest defensive player in football history. I would say he has talent.

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  80. YankeesHoganTripleHFanJuly 11, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    To me the difference between Shawn and Bret is that Shawn, for as much ego as he had, always understood it was a show. Bret always believed it was real.

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  81. Oh I agree he's a legendary football player. I'm saying he was an even more talented "wrestler" after a few weeks learning the craft than King Kong Bundy.

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  82. YankeesHoganTripleHFanJuly 11, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Ironic that Kevin Nash helped train him huh?

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  83. Bret gets the hate because of how he puts other wrestlers down and acts if he was the greatest wrestler ever. He takes self-importance to a whole new level.

    Why do people give him a pass on this? Because he had good technical matches? If that is the case, it is a poor one.

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  84. Haha, man, I think my opinion on Nash changes week, thanks in large part to this blog.

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  85. YankeesHoganTripleHFanJuly 11, 2014 at 12:58 PM

    If I had to pick any wrestler to hang out and drink with it would have to be Nash. Number one: you know you will a blast with him. Number two: Seeing as how, Shawn, Kid, and Hall are still alive you can pretty much trust him to take care of you if you get to fucked up.

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  86. I'd argue your first part... the Big Fat Heel has been part of wrestling for a fairly long time. Jerry Blackwell, anyone?

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  87. Cult brining the zingers! I actually laughed at work about that one.0

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  88. I'd give that to Miz, but point taken. At least Bundy was a threat to Hogan.

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  89. And Nash is apparently legit smart. You could probably discuss a number of different things with him. I with Austin would do another set a Podcasts with him because they had some funny stories from riding around in WCW together.

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  90. Aye. So many 'Ask The Rick / Scott / 411' questions should just get the www.lmgtfy.com treatment. But it gives us all something to chat about at least.

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  91. SummerSlam SweatHogJuly 12, 2014 at 7:58 AM

    The big reconciliation between the Hart bris should have been a big deal. Owen helping Bret during the Lawler feud and Bret finally letting his brother back into his good grace could have been a Savage/Liz moment

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