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Saturday Night’s Main Event Countdown: #37

Yeah, I know that’s wacky numbering, but blame the Network as they have The Main Event listed as episode 37 of SNME. 

I have multiple versions of the two matches featured on this show, so we’ll just include everything for fun, since they’ve been done on different DVDs and such.

Netcop BONUS Retro Rant: WWF Main Event #1 (Feb. 1988)

“Three years is a very long time.” - Andre the Giant, on Piper’s Pit prior to Wrestlemania III.

- Live from Indianapolis, IN.

- Your hosts are Vince & Jesse.

- Hogan training video starts us off. He’s pumped, brother!

- Opening match, Intercontinental title: The Honky Tonk Man v. Randy Savage.

There’s a big ugly backstage political story behind this that I’ll get into later. HTM hits on Liz and Savage chases to start. Savage mops up with him, but Jimmy Hart’s interference (and megaphone) quickly gives Honky the advantage. He keeps stopping to swivel his hips at Liz, however, between stomps. He drops three elbows on Savage, but stops to hit on Liz again, and Savage makes the comeback. Double axehandle gets two, and Hart gets involved again. Savage puts Honky in a sleeper, but stops to save Elizabeth again, and fights with Honky on the floor. Honky hits the post, and Savage beats the count at 8:04. Cheap ending. Typical SNME match, too. ½* Savage fights off a post-match beatdown afterwards.

(And now, the alternate version from Macho Madness!)

Intercontinental title: Honky Tonk Man v. Randy Savage

From the Main Event in February 1988, this is a match that has a lot of lore and history swirling around it, moreso than you'd expect for a mid-level feud like this. Macho attacks to start and necksnaps Honky on the top rope, then elbows him down and out of the ring before running him into Jimmy Hart. Hart hooks him up to distract him, allowing Honky to attack from behind and get a sunset flip. Savage blocks it and slugs away in the corner, but misses a charge, which allows Honky to take over. Savage takes a run at Hart again and Honky clobbers him with the megaphone for two. To the floor, where Honky hits him with an axehandle off the apron, and back in for some sweet words for Liz. What a ladies' man. He stomps Savage down and goes to hit on Liz again while Jimmy does his damage, and Jesse blames it all on Liz. The Honkster drops some elbows and he's still focused on Liz, but Savage has had ENOUGH of this shit and makes the comeback to a giant reaction. He tosses Honky and hits him with the axehandle. Back in, another axehandle gets two. Honky collides with Jimmy Hart and Savage gets a sleeper as the crowd goes insane, but now Savage has to contend with Peggy Sue as well. Honky charges him on the floor, but Macho steers him into the post and gets the countout at 8:23. Tremendous heat, but not a lot going on in the ring. **1/2

- Review of WM3 and the Andre situation for the casual fans.

- WWF World title: Hulk Hogan v. Andre the Giant.

This could be quite possibly the most important single moment in the modern era, just because of all the historical significance and precedence it set, and all the things that followed from it. This was the debut of the new WWF title belt that had been promised prior to Wrestlemania III, but never showed up for whatever reason. It’s of course the familiar design that was just retired last year when Steve Austin won the thing. Hogan does his posing before the match starts. Hogan cleans house on the seconds, then starts punching Andre. This goes on FOREVER, as Andre just keeps absorbing blows from Hogan and won’t go down. Hogan tries going to the top finally, but gets slammed off and suddenly starts selling a back injury like he was just in a career-ending car accident. Andre chokes a lot. He works a bodyslam in, then does a Hogan big boot and falls over in the process. Only quick camera work prevents him from looking like a total idiot. More choking. Still more. Choking, you say? Have some more. Hogan comes back and goes aerial, hitting a clothesline from the second rope and the STINKY WART-INFESTED NASTY GIANT-KILLING LEGDROP OF DEATH, but Virgil is distracting our referee. Hogan stops to argue the point, but Andre lumbers up and grabs him from behind, hitting a half-assed suplex/hiptoss thing and getting a one-count…which is extended into three because the ref keeps counting despite Hogan lifting his shoulder. The crowd is in SHOCK, as Hogan’s four-year title reign has come to an end under suspicious circumstances. HULK SCREWED HULK! Mean Gene pops into the ring for a word with Andre, who barely has the celebratory speech out of his mouth before he hands the title over to Ted Dibiase, becoming the shortest reigning champion in the WWF to date. The weirdness continues, as a SECOND Hebner comes out of the dressing room to argue with the first one. One of course was Dave Hebner, senior WWF referee, and the other was his twin brother Earl, current senior WWF referee. Earl eventually punks out Dave, which is good enough proof of Evil Intentions for Hogan, so he tosses Earl like a shotput into the arms of Dibiase (sending him about 15 feet into the aisleway in the process) and that’s that. ½*

(And now, the alternate version from the SNME DVD!)

WWF World title: Hulk Hogan v. Andre the Giant

From The Main Event, on live network primetime TV. This did ungodly numbers and blows away all other ratings for wrestling matches. It also has one of the most famous finishes in history. As a match, not so good. Another first here as it marks the debut of the classic winged eagle WWF title belt, although Hulk’s pre-match interview sees him wearing the older design. Pretty big production gaffe there. Amazingly, that belt design would last for 10 years, second only to the Big Gold Belt (23 years and counting!) and the current I-C title (11 years and sorely in need of a redo). (Or in this case, a return to the previous belt.)  Hulk cleans house on Dibiase and Virgil to start and then slugs away on Andre, but can’t knock him down. Hulk tries a corner clothesline, but still can’t punch him down, even after spinning his arm around like Popeye! That would KILL a normal man! He finally tries to go up, but Andre slams him off and then misses a headbutt. Andre chokes him out and stomps him, then puts him down with the headbutts. Big boot puts Hulk on the floor, and Virgil sends him back in for some more choking. Hogan fights up and slugs away in the corner, then gets a flying clothesline and drops the leg. The ref is busy with Virgil, and Andre headbutts Hogan from behind and suplexes him for the pin and the title at 9:04, despite Hogan’s shoulder being up at one. Pff, technicalities. So Andre immediately surrenders the title to Ted Dibiase as Hogan cries like a little bitch instead of manning up and doing something about it. I really wish 24/7 would show one of the house shows with Dibiase “defending” the title against Bam Bam Bigelow, for historical reasons if nothing else. I don’t know if any of them were taped for TV, though. Anyway, the really shocking thing here is that this isn’t even the worst refereeing job Earl Hebner would do in his career. Much better than their Wrestlemania match. That’s not saying much. **

- Backstage, he delivers that classic whining interview where he demands to know “how much money [did they spend] on the plastic surgery” while nearly breaking into tears. I was busy crying my own tears – tears of joy at Hogan’s ego-ridden title reign finally coming to an end. A Strike Force-Hart Foundation tag title match was also here, but it was cut off about 10 seconds in as the show ran out of time.  (Apparently restored to full glory on the Network! All praise be to the Network!) 

The Bottom Line: I recently found out an interesting story behind the whole Savage-HTM thing, because at the time I thought that Savage was a lock to kill Honky and get the title.

Turns out he was.

But, wrestling being the nasty, political world it is, Honky threatened to take the title and jump to the NWA very shortly before the show aired, thus messing everyone up. So in order to keep everyone happy, Honky was kept as the IC champion, and Savage was given a bigger reward: The win in the WWF title tournament at Wrestlemania IV, which had previously been promised to someone else…Ted Dibiase. This would have presumably built to a Savage-Dibiase match at the first Summerslam for the title, but things changed and Savage got a longer title reign than originally expected. It also worked out better in the end because the Megapowers thing had better symmetry with Savage winning at WM4 and losing at WM5 the next year.

Life is weird, no?  (Holy cow, we’ve only heard that story a few times less than the Shane McMahon one.  Get a life.) 

Comments

  1. Shane McMahon story?

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  2. YankeesHoganTripleHFanJuly 23, 2014 at 9:24 PM

    I agree. Explain.

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  3. They show the Strike Force vs Hart Foundation finish on the Network, so I demand a fresh review of this match for completeness sake!

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  4. Has "taking the title and jumping" ever worked out badly for the affected fed?


    Madusa dumping the WWF Women's title in the trash on Nitro? Meh.
    Haku showing up in the Royal Rumble as WCW Hardcore Champion? Double Meh.

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  5. Ric Flair showing up in WWF in '91? :)

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  6. Triple Meh. Flair and Hogan, the ultimate 80's mark dream match, couldn't even sell out any of the major arenas it played at.


    Flair's WWE title reigns were largely forgettable, and everything was back to normal within two years.

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  7. YankeesHoganTripleHFanJuly 23, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    Iknowright? That was a tease. Bad netcop!

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  8. Never brought the belt on television = doesn't count.

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  9. Did Mike Awesome appear with the ECW belt on Nitro? Belt or no belt, that heavily affected ECW.

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  10. Meng gave the belt to Barbarian before he left for WWF.

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  11. Didn't know that. Menku is a class act.

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  12. and a great mechanic

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  13. Shane Douglas and the NWA title, bro

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  14. Adam "Colorado" CurryJuly 23, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    Really? I thought they just forgot about the Hardcore title after that. Rightfully so.

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  15. Adam "Colorado" CurryJuly 23, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    No. He was supposed to, but WCW's lawyers killed it. By then it would have been like 2 crackheads in small claims court over 20 bucks.

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  16. Adam "Colorado" CurryJuly 23, 2014 at 10:10 PM

    Technically I believe he never was the champ, and not in the "he never existed" sense.

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  17. Adam "Colorado" CurryJuly 23, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    Yeah, because NWA champ Shane Douglas would have been better...

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  18. The NWA would kill to have Shane Douglas as their champ today though.

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  19. Adam "Colorado" CurryJuly 23, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    The NWA should have killed itself in 1991. Maybe before that.

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  20. Absolutely. Bob Trobich is the Kevin Dunn of rock bottom indie wrestling.

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  21. You mean the ol' Summerslam 1992 finish? Bret should've stopped doing those sunset flips!

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  22. It's kind of unfortunate that Honky was programmed here against Savage, who was probably too into pre-match planning and too much of a wild card to be convinced of this....but honestly, had Honky been booked to face more of a shooter, I wonder if Vince would've had the guy go into the match and beat Honky in a shoot to get the belt that way. Or...

    Honky: Hey Vince, I want a raise or else I'm walking south with the IC belt?

    Vince: I see, give me a minute....(talks on the phone)...well Wayne, turns out Randy is under the weather tonight with, oh, let's say a cold. Your new opponent is Haku. In fact, here he is right now to 'work out the finish.'


    Haku: (glares)

    Honky: (faints)

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  23. Adam "Colorado" CurryJuly 23, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    He gave it to him on camera? Classy.

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  24. Must be the infamous one where Scott got tickets from Sean Morley's scalper and was sitting behind Shane - one of Scott's buddies said the match and event stunk - Shane took 100.00 out of his pocket and threw it at Scott and walked off.

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  25. No worries. I always took the Haku thing as Vince's one last little FU to WCW while they were still around. Haku probably got a nice payday out of it too

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  26. Flair with the Big Gold Belt was good stuff.

    Bret Hart with his Hart Foundation jacket was cool in WCW - but that ended really quick.

    The Boss wearing his Boss Man blue shirt was awesome against Rude in his debut. Sadly, that had lawsuit written all over it even after they put him in the black shirt. Everybody kept calling him Boss Man or trying to be cute - The Boss is in WCW and man is he big!!

    Haku returning to WWF was just another nail to WCW's coffin. Now he works on cars in Flordia and John Nord sells cars in Michigian.

    Mike Awesome leaving was a bad move in retrospect. He was a big dude in ECW - but a small dude in the big leagues. Was he related to Mike Bollea? He wasn't related to Hogan - but there was a claim that he and Horrace were related.

    Beniot never had the belt - but Triple H burying him had a purpose. In hindsight, as talented as he was -- the guy took too many risks.

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  27. Things were never normal after 1992. Flair may have gone "home," but Hogan soon followed and the WWF became a hybrid of great technical wrestling and baby face Doink the Clown and other silly gimmicks in the Midcard. T L Hopper, anyone? Kwang? Double J Jeff Jarrett? Bastion Booger?

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  28. For those that weren't alive during Hogan/Andre you will never get just how big the whole thing was. Yeah, the matches are terrible, but the historical significance is just out of this world.

    Hogan may not be the greatest wrestler (though I'll argue he isn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be. I mean to me a good wrestler is someone who can illicit an emotional response from the crowd and get them to believe. Hogan could do that), but he'll always be the greatest star the sport has ever seen.

    It's like when Kobe was talking about Jordan and how everyone says he's the best because he did so many of the big things first. Well, that's the way I feel about Hogan. He was drawing the big numbers, getting the main stream press, getting tv and movie roles.

    That's taking nothing away from Austin or Rock of course.

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  29. My theory was that fan's could never by a smaller guy like Flair being a threat since they were so programmed into the bigger guys.

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  30. Vince's pronouncing of Bastion Booger with that tone of disgust in his voice was grand.

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  31. Awesome was the ECW champ when he jumped.

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  32. BAIT & SWITCH

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  33. Awesome COULD have been bigger, but once he became the Fat Chick Thriller it was pretty much over.

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  34. Not just a payday, but he also stuck around for a little while after that. I don't think he was around by WrestleMania, but I do recall him working with them for a few weeks.

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  35. Legit lol'd at that; thank you!

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  36. No he didn't; remember, that was another HHH power play. Taz was sent over to ECW to beat Awesome and become the ECW champ. Then HHH beat him on TV because reasons.

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  37. AverageJoeEverymanJuly 24, 2014 at 6:10 AM

    I would assume that is what he is referring to. Unless its one about Scott and a very young Shane and that is why Scott is not in the HOF.

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  38. AverageJoeEverymanJuly 24, 2014 at 6:13 AM

    They were setting up Haku/Rikishi vs Kane/Taker but Rikishi got hurt and kinda sent Haku to Velocity limbo.

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  39. So....this was the first wrestling show I remember watching (I might have seen a hundred before that but can't remember). I was 7 years old, and when they screwed Hogan I cried.....and I don't mean a little. I mean I was inconsolable for thirty minutes. Then my dad told me right then and there that wrestling was fake. I was both offended and interested to learn more.

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  40. It took 20 years for tip to tip efficiency from Silicon Valley to challenge that as the best dick joke ever.

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  41. Try not to have any more SNME's on your way through the parking lot!

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  42. Cause it was Stevie's belt.

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  43. Also, you do know that Vince stole the "it'll be at my home on my mantle" line about the Smoking Skull title from what HTM said about the I-C title, right????

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  44. WWF made him wrestle that style and really didnt let him open up more to what he could do. Thats why I love watching some Hogan Japan matches when he was still in his 30's especially the one against Stan Hansen, he looks like a completely different wrestler and a much better one to boot.

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  45. than Haku fixes the brakes on Honkys Toyota after the match....

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  46. Main Event #1 has some memorable highlights.

    Jesse Ventura's Halloween outfit as a witch from somewhere.

    Honky's pre-match promo. Still a riot.

    Andre's I will squeeze and squeeze and I will never stop - nah-ver, nah-ver, nah-ver.

    Hogan calling the Million Dollar Man the multi-Million Dollar Man.

    The infamous pre-match promo with old belt and Hogan walking out with the eagle belt. That was a tip off he was losing in retrospect.

    Jesse: Hebner counted three. In wrestling we don't go by instant replays. This ain't football.

    Not to mention the whole Vince/Jesse banter at the end of the match.

    Andre'a infamous winning of the tag team championship.

    Hogan's infamous screaming and crying promo. Never in my wildest dreams Mean Gene that I would be ripped off by a penny pinching, two timing referee. . . . Look at the shoulder brother. . . . The referee has been paid off. Look at the hundred thousand bills falling out of his pocket. Hulkamanias - argggh!!!

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  47. Adam "Colorado" CurryJuly 24, 2014 at 10:43 AM

    I was talking about Benoit.

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  48. I actually went back and looked closely for those hundred dollar bills falling out of the referee's pocket. Goddamn lying Hogan.

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  49. One of the most important things a wrestler needs to know is how to sell. Take away the "Hulking up" and Hogan is actually a damn good seller.

    Again Hogan isn't nearly as bad as people think.

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