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Simpsons Marathon Thread (Season 8)


Season 8
8/24 2:30 PM ET – “Treehouse of Horror VII”
8/24 3:00 PM ET – “You Only Move Twice “
8/24 3:30 PM ET – “The Homer They Fall “
8/24 4:00 PM ET – “Burns, Baby Burns “
8/24 4:30 PM ET – “Bart After Dark “
8/24 5:00 PM ET – “A Milhouse Divided “
8/24 5:30 PM ET – “Lisa’s Date with Density “
8/24 6:00 PM ET – “Hurricane Neddy “
8/24 6:30 PM ET – “The Mysterious Voyage of Homer “
8/24 7:00 PM ET – “The Springfield Files"
8/24 7:30 PM ET – “The Twisted World of Marge Simpson"
8/24 8:00 PM ET – “Mountain of Madness”
8/24 8:30 PM ET – “Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(Annoyed Grunt)cious”
8/24 9:00 PM ET – “The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show”
8/24 9:30 PM ET – “Homer’s Phobia”
8/24 10:00 PM ET – “Brother from Another Series”
8/24 10:30 PM ET – “My Sister, My Sitter”
8/24 11:00 PM ET – “Homer vs. the Eighteenth Amendment”
8/24 11:30 PM ET – “Grade School Confidential”
8/25 12:00 AM ET – “The Canine Mutiny”
8/25 12:30 AM ET – “The Old Man and the Lisa”
8/25 1:00 AM ET – “In Marge We Trust”
8/25 1:30 AM ET – “Homer’s Enemy”
8/25 2:00 AM ET – “The Simpsons Spin-Off Showcase”
8/25 2:30 AM ET – “The Secret War of Lisa Simpson”

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  1. ...didn't see the new thread....from last thread: When Harper and Rowan finally split from Wyatt, I nominate Sons of the Soil as their team name

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  2. I watched Marge Be Not Proud last night after looking up the name for the Golf game in the episode.

    Maybe it's just me, but that thing is the quintessential 90s kid experience. I want this hyper violent video game my parents don't understand, and inevitably someone you know or kind of know has it and doesn't even appreciate it. Then, at the end, he doesn't get what he wants, but realized what you want and what you need are totally different things. I may have gotten a bit misty eyed.

    Has an episode of Simpsons ever turned on your internal sprinklers? I'm curious. The ending where Homer's mom leaves and it's just him looking at the stars was pretty emotional too.

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  3. Am I the only one that kind of hates the Halloween episodes?

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  4. Ah Homer's Enemy. Probably my favorite Simpson's episode.

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  5. They did the exact same thing in the early 2000s! Same wrestler, same manager, only with Big Show in place of Cena!... I don't think this will happen either though, for the same reasons it didn't happen last year, or the year before that, or the year before that...

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  6. I'd be simultaneously devastated and excited for where pro wrestling will go from there

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  7. Best: In general, there are more and better talented workers all around the world.


    Worst: The WWE having a virtual monopoly means there are nowhere near as many main-event spots to go around as in the territory or Monday Night Wars eras, and thus it's much easier for someone supremely talented to spend their career in midcard hell.

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  8. Same here. With my health issues and amount of stress im under, 50 maybe pushing it. Ill be forty in four years and some days that feels like a stretch.

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  9. Dougie's contribution for the day, which he'll then post about some comment here he doesn't like and go post on a forum only used by twelve people.

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  10. Yeah, you're right about that one. He could still bump during his WWE comeback. He probably should have put Randy Orton over in '06 and then moved onto loveable grandpa territory.

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  11. I've always felt a powerslam similar to Davey Boy Smith's would be the ideal move for Hogan. With a few exceptions (Andre, etc), he can lift anyone over his shoulder. Soak in some cheers while he walked around with his opponent on his shoulder, and then plant him with a powerslam.

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  12. Wait.,.is GMW Girl Meets World? That girl is twelve, you fucking pedophile. As a day, im offended as hell.

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  13. Vince heart attack: Coming to a wrestling promotion near you.

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  14. Girl is 12 years old, and this R.Kelly wannabe has been spamming the blog with that shit. I've already let Scott know.

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  15. CruelConnectionNumber2August 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM

    Dumb since the #2 babyface is MIA and the #3 babyface can't wrestle.

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  16. For all the shit he gets, it's going to be a very, very sad day when he's gone.


    I'd say Vince is good for another 15. But you know in his mind, outliving his father is REALLY on his mind.

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  17. The NFL analogy in the opening paragraph was not a good idea.

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  18. On that WCW OMG set, Hogan claims that it wasn't until Bash at the Beach 2000 that he used his creative control clause.
    I'll let you all pause a moment to laugh hysterically.

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  19. You've clearly never played with a friend who's never golfed before and found yourself astonished that a 31 over par was possible.

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  20. Say what else but really, Hogan may well be the most brilliant backstage politician in the history of the business. Look how he played Bischoff like a fiddle in WCW to keep himself on top, including ruining the Starcade 97 bout, what should have been a Sting squash designed to keep Hogan looking good and then conning TNA into giving him such power. If nothing else, the guy's smarts on the business are a key reason he still maintains such power today.

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  21. Extant1979 - Ghetto SuperstarAugust 24, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    I really think that, with the amount of wrestling WWE televises each week, the squash match would be a worthwhile venture to bring back. Build some of these guys up against faceless enhancement talent instead of endless feuds between midcarders on television that don't go anywhere.


    Especially if you're going to put the IC or US champ in non-title matches on TV. At least let them win against some jobbers.


    The squash system worked wonders for Ryback to build him up. You can easily make some of these guys more important with some wins strung together.

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  22. Evolve already.

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  23. seems to cover all the points, well said

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  24. a key point to remember, too, is that when Austin was gaining steam Hart stepped into the heel role so as to give him a foil AND not dilute his heat

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  25. Another of the Squash system is The Ascension in NXT.

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  26. How is that any different than "let's have a battle royale at wm preshow and final 2 get a tag title shot that night"

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  27. especially as a publicly traded company. If this was privately owned WWF, it could definitely have happened.

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  28. That's worth an "OMG" all on it's own, really.

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  29. Exactly. He's a lot like Brock actually -- one of VERY few guys that just has a look that kills. Goldberg was a hell of an athlete too -- in a different kind of way than most wrestlers, which also lent him a certain kind of credibility I think.

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  30. I don't think it will happen, but what about going the Bret route of 97 and having Cena be a hero to kids, shithead to older fans? I mean, it's what already is happening but a heel turn could ramp that up. Have him come out and cut promos saying that kids need a hero and a role model because clearly their parents weren't providing one. Then still have him be all smiles with the kids but whenever older fans come around he just gives them dirty looks and cold shoulders.


    Is this even possible?

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  31. Extant1979 - Ghetto SuperstarAugust 24, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Between now and Royal Rumble, you should find ways to run Brock vs. Sheamus, Batista and Cena. Just put two guys in matches to beat the shit out of each other. I would not have had Cena-Lesnar III at NoC. I would have waited until Hell in a Cell. My schedule through the end of the year would be:


    September - Batista
    October - Cena
    November - Team Authority vs. Team CeNation
    December - Sheamus.


    Brock sits out the Rumble to see his new challenger, who then runs a gauntlet in the Elimination Chamber to keep the shot at Mania.

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  32. I love how much Hogan promotes himself. Good for the old fucker.

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  33. Extant1979 - Ghetto SuperstarAugust 24, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    If Cena is going to turn heel, it has to be against a more sympathetic character than Brock Lesnar. A face Lesnar is the stupidest idea the WWE could try. Best way to turn Cena, IMO, is if Daniel Bryan comes back. He comes out for an interview, Cena interrupts to welcome him back to action and BAM hits him with an AA. As he tries to recover, Cena throws the STF on him. Maybe hits him with a chair first. Just DESTROYS Daniel Bryan on his return. Instant feud, instant heel heat, and a money program.


    Where is the upside to a Cena-Lesnar double turn? I just don't see it.

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  34. Extant1979 - Ghetto SuperstarAugust 24, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    I'm going to choose to believe that someone hacked your account and is just fucking with you by posting this in multiple threads. Maybe you want to delete them, because this is the type of thing that can get a guy in trouble.

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  35. I don't know if you read the Observer, but I've wondered before- and I know this is kinda dark- how many issues Dave will take to write Vince's obit. Given the length of some of his past obits, it might just take him a whole year to write it.

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  36. I agree 100%. Shawn Michaels seems to be another guy who is in a good place in life.

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  37. In Bret's book he writes that Owen was supposed to team up with the Anvil to get the tag titles. But then Anvil did something stupid, like missed a bunch of shows, and got fired. So I'm guessing they were going to try Bret's "new foundation" idea, but without Neidhart they switched to the mystery partner.

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  38. I especially like Jack Swagger with the beard etc.

    to me that "rough" look instantly made him look more credible.

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  39. I disagree in that if you turn the meter up to 10 (like Randy Orton's psycho face character, or even Dean Ambrose today) you can connect with a crowd, you just can't be fake about it (like Cena is very often).

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  40. I'm down with one last "hulk up routine". but if they are going to do it, please in an angle, not a match.

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  41. Owen/Yokozuna: Best big guy/little guy tag team ever?

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  42. Man, Goldberg/Lesnar match would be awesome!

    Maybe Triple H could hire Goldberg for one match at WrestlemaniaGoldberg for Lesnar's final match? What a treat for the fans that would be!

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  43. since he posted the same stuff in three different threads, always with no connection to the topic, it seems actually very likely his account was indeed hacked.

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  44. Even after Andre passed hogan worried he wouldn't to him the favor.

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  45. That was the greatest taunt in the history of the Blog of Doom!

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  46. How nonsensical would this be?


    1. The Authority wants to take the title off John Cena, because reasons
    2. They make a "deal with the devil" and hire the guy who broke HHH's arms to do the job
    3. They then screw the guy they hired a month later and put the title back on Cena, because... reasons?

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  47. Hold that 10 for Johnny B. BadAugust 24, 2014 at 5:13 PM

    Favorite: Today's product is can't miss television. Great matches, interviews, and angles happen on a near week to week basis. In 1989, you could miss 3 months of non-Mania build tv, and not have nearly as much fun stuff to catch up on.
    What I like the least is the treatment of the mid-card singles champion. In 1989, the mid-card champ sat on top of the mid-card division. These days, it seems like a mid-card champ is instead positioned at the bottom of the world title division.

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  48. PGA Championship Golf 2000 by Sierra Sports is by far the best golf game I've ever played. Lots of custom courses for download, the ability to create your own seasons, the ability to create custom golfers (although that feature is a tad limited), etc. Tons of replay value. I have the Tiger Woods games for console, but when I really want to enjoy a golf game, I plug in PGA 2000.

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  49. Too many to list, but one HUGE thing that annoys me about the current product is the fucking camera work and the ADHD quick cuts. It's like Vince decided he wanted the production to look like Wrestling Society X. Fucking hate that shit. The thing where it's most improved is the fact there's more athleticism, but i can't fucking tell because of the worst camera work this side of Mario Sunshine.

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  50. Disagree about having more psychology. There are more moves, but they don't mean diddlyshit.

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  51. You can still miss it, and be reminded of what happened with endless recaps. Hell, you can get up and take a greasy shit and not really miss a thing.

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  52. I was just saying there has to be some part of your personality for the fans to associate with. Diesel has nothing. HHH was that was a face also which is why he sucked at it.

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  53. Better: no jobber matches (but some guys who are stars are actually jobbers) also better production values, and of course the #1 reason is the network (only $9.99).

    Worse: wwe monopoly, no tv shows to look forward to in their old time slots, no real reason for feuds, too many title changes, lack of good tag team wrestling, all my old favorites are retired (or dead).

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  54. In 89 the WWF had Anderson, Blanchard, Martel, Santana, Michaels, Janetty, Rude, Roberts, Bossman, Demolition, Savage, Valentine, Orndorf, the Rougeaus, Hennig, Hart brothers, DiBiase, Bossman, Taylor, and even Beefcake. Some were past their prime and others given shit for gimmicks but they could all work. Was NWA's roster really that much stronger with regard to "workers"??

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  55. My money would be on Kurt Angle against any other wrestler from any era. Wouldn't take Danny Hodge lightly either...

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  56. You mean the appearance of legitimacy, correct? It was always entertainment. Do agree with the sentiment though...

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  57. Better in 1989: the rosters. The WWF's roster, in October 1989, had Hulk Hogan, Andre, Bret Hart, Savage, Jake the Snake, Demolition, Rick Rude, Ted Dibiase, The Rockers, the Brainbusters, Piper & Hennig. The NWA had Ric Flair, the Midnights, Lex Lugar, Sting, the Steiners, and Pillman. Even the 2nd line talent had personalities and storylines which were interesting, because everyone was the product of the territories and understood that they were the one most responsible for getting themselves over. At the same time, the wrestlers were given more leeway to talk and do their own thing.



    Worse in 89: the drugs (steroids), the drugs (coke), and the drugs (booze). Even the folks who didn't die had problems. While I'm sure some of that exists today, the way the WWE is run as a billion dollar corporation gives it incentive to clean guys up in order to avoid lawsuits later.

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  58. Better: By and large, wrestling is more respected then back then. Once the finally admitted that it was "fake" people began to actually be more impressed and show more appreciation for wrestling once we were over arguing whether its fake or not.


    Worse: Championships, they are nearly meaningless. In 1989 it meant something when Ultimate Warrior and Rick Rude feuded for the Intercontinental Title. Demolition versus the Brain Busters meant something. Now? Titles are traded like nothing, and worst of all, champions are constantly losing meaningless TV matches to set up heatless feuds that mean nothing.

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  59. Helen Keller thought Wendi Richter looked and sounded like a lazy transvestite...

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  60. The non-bullet point promo sounds inorganic, and I think that's what is leading to fewer connections between fans & wrestler promos. But, I see Vince's point. The WWE is sacrificing sometimes great, occasionally terrible, and a few times FCC call-worthy for homogenous, OK-ish stuff which will guarantee 2.0's and not rock the boat. It also fits my hypothesis that the WWE doesn't want to create individual stars as those same guys could jump start a rival promotion.

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  61. I've said before that it wouldn't be bad to have Hogan in a Survivor Series match where you could protect him.

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  62. Has anyone checked Stephanie's purse? They could be in there...

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  63. 1100, no 1200 pounds ...

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  64. I didn't realize that people were still designing courses for this game. That's a lot of staying power for a video game.

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  65. Okay...but no "high-powered NFL offense" puts up a 103. Hell, no NFL offense is putting up a 72. You overshot the analogy, I think was the point.

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  66. If Wikipedia can be believed, he DID use a running powerslam as a finish in Japan.

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  67. The winner of this match goes on ... Orndorff has a great opera unity , but he is taking too much time. He is letting the Hulk Hogan getting too much air in his body.

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  68. After 2004 debacle ... Forget it.

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  69. He tried to make golf sound lyrical and like a shared experience that we can all relate to. Instead, he just exposed that he's never swung a club in his life.

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  70. Hogan can say some douchey things, but at the end of the day I also remember that wrestling never would have gotten as big without him and the whole "you could have put anyone in his spot and they would have succeeded" that so many smarks cling too just doesn't exist. It takes that special IT and Hogan had it. I'll say it a million times over. He's the biggest star wrestling ever produced. Rock and Austin don't get that chance without Hogan. Those movie roles they get, guest spots on SNL? Thank Hogan. I'll always rank Hogan first simply because he did all the big things first. Plus the dude had a cartoon.

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  71. Main events in any arenas in the country!

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  72. And really how many guys who complain about Hogan can honestly say they'd have done thing's differently? Power, to quote Kissinger, is the ultimate aphrodisiac. Once you have it it's hard to step down from it.

    Does Bischoff get any blame for agreeing to such a contract? Does Vince get any blame for booking Hogan so strong? It's not like one can call Hogan pure evil in WCW when he was in the legal right. (you can say starcade '97 would have been a bigger deal had Sting actually cared)? Can you say he's pure evil in the WWF when he's just doing what his boss says? Really who in WWF did he hold down during his first run? Savage? Guy had the belt for nearly a year, and was booked into one of the biggest angles in wrestling history. If that's being held down, sign me up. Warrior? God bless his soul, but the dude was a flake who could never handle the pressure of the spotlight.

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  73. 2005 was pure karma. And I say this as a HUGE HBK fan.

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  74. You follow his twitter and it really comes off as genuine. He really seemed to have embraced the family life. Not really that surprising. One of my closest friends was a notorious skirt chaser in our younger years. Probably slept with close to 40 women (not all the best quality, but bar sloots never are) found that one girl that made his world stop and now he's the happiest husband and father I know.

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  75. "Cena can make me more money because he works every night and sells tons of merchandise."

    Done.

    And then you have Cena be a merch-shilling whore in the most overt way.

    It's not that hard. There's a difference between "this is a silly topic because it won't happen" (which is the case here) and "this is a silly topic because it doesn't possibly make any sense" (which everyone is seemingly confusing with the former).

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  76. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryAugust 24, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    I have no problem with his WWF run, his early NWO stuff, and his 2002-03 return once he went back to the red and yellow. Most of my disdain for him came from the antics after: going over HBK while walking out on their trade-wins deal, showing what an AWFUL group of human beings his family was on a terrible reality show, making appearances with the condition that RAW had to make time for shitty Brooke Hogan videos, and basically having a big hand in ruining TNA. But vintage Hogan stuff, when he was basically synonymous with not just wrestling, but the decade itself? That's the Hogan that I still enjoy.

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  77. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryAugust 24, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    I probably dug IC title feuds growing up than I did for the WWF title.

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  78. No, I mean "Oh, you have a bunch of great spots you can do safely that most of our audience hasn't seem? Well, pick three."

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  79. The Authority isn't the begin all and end all of everything heelish.

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  80. Gotta love that guys with neo Nazi tattoos were pushed and given jobs in so many promotions.

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  81. Yeah, there's still an active message board over at Golf Sim Clubhouse http://www.golfsimclubhouse.com/wgc2011/

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  82. Agreed. Orton is one of the best sellers in the company, and he'd get good stuff out of Brock.

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  83. Did your astonishingly poor writing give Roger Ebert cancer? Sorry, cancer and cancer and cancer? Of course I'm not saying that the appalling quality of your writing gave Roger Ebert cancer, but I think it did.

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  84. I read it. You now owe me a new pair of eyeballs. Which I had to gouge out.

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  85. From Dave Meltzer-

    ena was interviewed by Power Magazine this past week and said that he’s got a heel run in him, but says he does what the company tells him to do and that a heel turn will never happen. To me, never doesn’t exist in pro wrestling, because circumstances constantly change. That said, right now, the idea of turning Cena heel would be mind-bogglingly stupid. The key is merchandise. With Bryan and Punk gone, Cena’s merchandise was recently and may still be outselling the entire rest of the roster combined. Heel turns kill merch sales, not to mention ticket sales to kids, which make up a strong percentage of the WWE audience and the Cena shows this year were doing more than $60,000 above the non-Cena shows in ticket sales (and shows without Cena are doing well below the usual levels for house shows in the cities they have been in while Cena shows have not). There is always the chance that Cena will get hotter as a ticket seller with a heel turn. Historically, with the exception of Hogan (whose merch sales were dead when he made the turn), modern era top babyface turns didn’t work unless you have the hotter babyface on the rise (like Austin was with Bret Hart when they did the double turn). Dwayne Johnson turned back-and-forth, but Austin’s turn, no matter how entertaining it was, led to huge drops in attendance, ratings and merch sales and the company never got back to previous levels. WCW attempted turns with Sting and Goldberg were such flops they flipped back every time within a few weeks. If Bryan, or Reigns, or someone, is at the point as champion where they are outdrawing Cena and selling at close to the same level, you could consider a turn, but even then, you still have the issues where Make-a-Wish and other corporate partners who bank on Cena as a spokesperson or face would get upset. But today, with no Punk, no Bryan, and Reigns months from being ready, any suggestion of turning him today is up there with the ill-fated Austin turn. Austin’s turn failed for these reasons. The first was there was no super face to oppose him (the idea was HHH as the face, but then HHH decided against turning and forming a team with Austin, and if you remember that period, HHH was actually positioned equal or even ahead of him when they were together). The other is that there are some talents who bring new people into the game. When those people are faces and turn, and there are only a handful of them in the last 30 years and of them, only Hogan and Lawler (who was successful going back-and-forth) ever did for any length of time and with had success. I would call Hogan’s turn a success because the company did great business for two-and-a-half years, but the long-run of the cool heels killing the faces was not good in the long run. Whether a percentage of the audience boos him, and they do at TV and PPVs and they don’t at house shows, those are already paying customers, many of whom came in before Cena. Of those who came in with Cena, their big favorites were Cena, Mysterio and maybe Batista, and Cena was No. 1 throughout and is the last one left. They are clearly building Reigns and Ambrose for a future, and Wyatt is probably going to be a face at some point as well. When the new characters are at the point they are carrying the ball, and Reigns may already be on track getting there, you absolutely could consider a Cena turn from a wrestling standpoint. But perhaps Make-a-Wish changes the game and it won’t happen even when the storyline time down the line could be right.

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