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Monday Nitro - May 3, 1999

Monday Nitro #187
Date: May 3, 1999
Location: Charlotte Coliseum, Charlotte, North Carolina
Commentators: Bobby Heenan, Tony Schiavone

Reviewed by Tommy Hall

It's the go home show for Slamboree and even though a lot of stuff changed last week, we're right back where we were seven days ago. Flair is still insane but is getting to face Piper for control of the company this Sunday, even though both are fired. On top of that we're getting ready for Page vs. Nash and in theory Nash won't give away the title if he wins it again. Let's get to it.


We open with Flair, Anderson and the nurse in a limo and on his way to the arena. There's a bus next to them full of the mental patients. A guy that looks a lot like Scott Hall is driving.

Video on last week's two World Title changes.

DJ Ran.

Nitro Girls.

Gorgeous George workout video.

The Nitro Girls have a website.

Video on Flair being insane.

MORE DJ Ran, now with a Nascar driver.

Kidman/Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Armstrongs

Non-title. Steve and Kidman trade arm holds to get things going before a dropkick sends Steve over to his corner. Both guys tag out and it's Steve running over Rey with a clothesline. Mysterio comes back with some dropkicks and brings Kidman back in, only to have him sent out to the floor.

That goes nowhere so Kidman comes back in and avoids a charge before taking Steve down with something resembling a Bodog. Rey comes in with a springboard seated senton as everything breaks down. Steve's powerbomb to Kidman is countered and Kidman puts him on top before launching Rey up for a top rope hurricanrana and the pin.

Rating: D+. The Armstrongs didn't get to do much here but there was only going to be so much done with a week before a three way Tag Team Title match. Rey and Kidman are a good team but they seem like they're there to be beaten by a bigger name team and not as a long term thing. Then again most smaller teams usually are.

Post match the Horsemen come in and beat down the champions. Raven and Saturn come out for the save before beating down Kidman and Mysterio. This brings the Horsemen back in to put Raven and Saturn in their holds and stand tall.

Highlight reel of Jackhammers.

The Cat vs. Buff Bagwell

We get the usual insults to the “rednecks” by Miller before he offers Buff the five seconds. Buff poses at him and gets kicked in the face for his efforts. Back up and Buff dropkicks him out to the floor and the stalling begins. Miller gets back in and wants a handshake, only to stall even more by standing around.

Some armdrags put Cat down but Onoo gets in a few shots to take over. Not that it lasts long though as Bagwell comes back with a swinging neckbreaker, only to have Onoo block a sunset flip to really put Miller in control. A chinlock doesn't last long but Miller rakes the eyes to stop Buff again. Bagwell makes a quick comeback and Onoo's latest interference backfires, allowing Buff to hit the Blockbuster for the pin.

Rating: D-. This felt like it went on forever and the match never got interesting. Bagwell had a nice string of wins going here as he's getting ready for the US Title match on Sunday. Granted it's not like a win over Miller means all that much as he's about as uninteresting as you can be at this point. Really dull match.

Miller yells at Onoo post match.

DJ Ran the third.

Flair and his large company arrive and immediately go to the ring. Ric yells about wanting Sting, Savage, George and Goldberg out here. Before they come out here, he fires Savage and grants himself a World Title match in Charlotte. This brings out Savage and the girls as we go to a break. Back with Savage and Madusa beating up the security that tries to arrest them.

Flair grabs George as the cops come to the ring and arrest Savage. Robinson talks trash and struts but George breaks free and slaps him down. The nurse chokes George out as Flair insults Goldberg and Sting. This brings out Sting to punch Ric in the face, followed by Goldberg who does the same. Sting and Goldberg brawl, beat up security and brawl some more until a ton of guards break it up. Somehow this whole thing took over fifteen minutes.

After a break, Flair is talking to Stevie Ray of all people and offers Stevie $100,000 to take Nash out tonight. Ray agrees.

Nitro Girls.

Hardcore Hak vs. Bam Bam Bigelow

The winner gets Knobbs on Sunday for the title King of Hardcore. Wasn't Bigelow the King already? They throw weapons in before the match and trade trashcan shots to start before Bigelow nails him with a pair of lids. A mop to Hak's face sets up the required Surge container shot. Bigelow puts him into a ladder and through two tables but Hak hits a quick bulldog onto a ladder and actually works the leg a bit. We take a break because this match needs to keep going for some reason. Bigelow superplexes Hak through two tables as Knobbs comes in with a trashcan to beat on both guys and the match is thrown out.

Rating: F. Am I to understand that a hardcore match just ended in either a doublt DQ or a no contest? I had to sit through another of these messes and now I'm probably going to have to sit through a triple threat match on Sunday? Horrible non-match with nothing redeeming whatsoever. Well maybe the Surge was good.

Ray tells the Black and White that Flair gave him $50,000 to take out Nash. The mental patient AAA was in the bathroom because....I really don't think I want to know why.

Video on Piper.

AAA warns Nash about the Black and White's plans.

Konnan vs. Horace Hogan

Konnan threatens the Black and White with unidentified backup. Horace gets dropped with a bulldog to start and they head to the floor for some brawling. Back in and Horace takes over with a few clotheslines and puts on a chinlock. A big boot and splash get two for Horace before we're back to the chinlock. Horace goes up and dives into a boot, setting up Konnan's usual offense. The Sunrise goes on but the Black and White runs in for the DQ.

Kevin Nash runs out for the save and cleans house with Konnan. So much for them fighting a few months ago.

Some more of Flair's friends from the hospital are in the production truck.

Flair, Anderson and Robinson are in the back when David Flair and Samantha come in. Ric thanks his son for helping him and puts him in the main event tonight. David is happy and leaves with Samantha but Ric is smiling. He tells Robinson to book David vs. Meng and also wants Robinson to tell Meng that David thinks Meng can't go in the ring anymore. Anderson shakes his head.

Piper arrives in a limo because WCW doesn't understand wrestling fans. He charges into Flair's office and beats him up as cops come in for the save. Piper slaps one of them as well and puts a Reality Check shirt on Flair.

After a break, Flair sends Scott Steiner after Nash.

More DJ Ran and Nitro Girls.

We go to a press conference with Lex Luger and Liz but the signal goes out before anything can be said.

Scott Steiner asks Mysterio where Nash is. Rey points him to a dressing room and Steiner goes in, only to get beaten down by Buff Bagwell. That might be the worst segment I have ever seen on so many levels.

DJ Ran and the Nitro Girls, maybe two minutes after the previous time.

David Flair vs. Meng

Samantha has officially been named Torrie for no apparent reason. No that it matters as David sends her to the back, making this match far less appealing. Flair tries some chops and gets about as far as you would expect. A big headbutt puts him on the floor but Meng throws him back in so he can no sell even more of David's offense. Meng actually does sell a few shots to the ribs but he rakes David's back to slow him down again. A suplex sets up the Tongan Death Grip to mercifully end this quick.

Ric comes out and laughs at David as he's taken out on a stretcher. He tells his son to never try to get rid of him again.

Video on Diamond Dallas Page.

Gorgeous George workout video again.

Here's DDP with something to say. It's his standard promo now: he's come a long way, he doesn't care what the people think, he's old but new while Flair is old and old.

Nitro Girls AGAIN.

TV Title: Curt Hennig vs. Booker T.

Booker is defending in this rematch from Thunder. Hennig takes him down with a shoulder and busts out a cartwheel of all things. The champ's throat gets snapped across the top rope and Hennig starts on the leg by wrapping it around the post. This brings out Stevie Ray but he misses the slap jack shot. Rick Steiner comes out and attacks Booker for the DQ.

Cops are told to go get the inmates.

WCW World Title: Ric Flair vs. Diamond Dallas Page

Page is defending and Robinson is referee. Feeling out process to start with Page shoving Flair into the corner and stomping away. Some choking has Flair in trouble but he comes back with chops and right hands in the corner. A hiptoss sends the champ out to the floor and Ric chops away against the barricade. Both guys are sent into the barricade and Flair chops him up the aisle.

What looked like a low blow gets Page out of trouble and they head back inside. A swinging neckbreaker gets two on Flair and we hit the chinlock for a few seconds. Page fires off elbows to the head in the corner but Ric snapmares him down and drops a knee for two. More choking lets Page send Flair out to the floor. Back in and Flair gets slammed off the top for another near fall and there's a Figure Four on Flair. Robinson is freaking out but he and Ric start whispering to each other.

Ric finally makes a rope but Page puts it right back on. You don't see that too often. Flair lifts Page's leg off of his to break the hold, which you don't see that often either. Back up and Page's discus lariat gets two before we hit the chinlock. Flair pops up and elbows Page in the jaw before going up. Oh come on Flair you would think......HE ACTUALLY HIT THE AX HANDLE! Savage and George come to the ring as Flair hooks the Figure Four. Robinson goes after George as Savage slips Page a foreign object for a shot to the head. Another referee comes out to count the pin.

Rating: C-. The match wasn't bad but it was a bit too messy. It also didn't help that we had a heel vs. a heel in a city where one of the heel was going to be a face but the heel that is a face has been acting especially heelish all night long. To be fair though there were so many other problems with this show that this was bearable.

Overall Rating: F. Other than Gorgeous George's outfit, this was one of the most worthless shows I can remember in a very long time. Without the awesome cruiserweight matches or Page and Sting stealing the show, this is a bunch of stories starting and stopping in one night (we can also add another entry to the list of World Title matches with no hype) with either no logic or continuity.

Then you have the pay per view coming up. Flair was attacked by Piper and never mentioned it. You would think Page was defending against Flair and Nash was facing Stevie Ray on Sunday. Page getting another title win is fine but at least have him be on camera with Nash instead of having Flair try to take Nash out, which Nash didn't address either. You had Steiner and the Black and White trying to take out Nash, which was used to build up Bagwell vs. Steiner and Konnan vs. Ray. That's good, but Nash doesn't have a single word for Flair? That's the other problem: why wasn't Page doing that?

Finally, what was up with Flair? He was supposed to be insane but he still seems perfectly rational and had two plans tonight (hiring people to go after Nash and the stuff with David) plus wrestled like he has for years. The story seemed like a way to get us to Piper vs. Flair, which is happening in 1999 because WCW thinks that's enough to combat whatever Raw was running at this point. By the way, this show was up against a main event of Steve Austin vs. The Rock. Maybe they were lucky this disaster happened this week.

There was no thinking put into this show and it really showed. They kind of put the focus on Slamboree but it felt like the TV show was the much bigger priority here. There's a thought to that, but when the TV show is a disaster like this with everything going all over the place, the strategy doesn't work. It was a mess this week and Slamboree looks ok at best.

One last note: Nitro is preempted on May 10 by the NBA Playoffs so there won't be another Nitro review up for two weeks.


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Comments

  1. So is this when the nWo red and black just ceased to exist with no real explanation?

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  2. This episode of Nitro got a 3.4 rating. Raw had a 6.4 rating.

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  3. CruelConnectionNumber2September 24, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Hey Tommy, did you see that SURGE was brought back? Order yours on Amazon when it restocks and drink as you do the SURGE SPONSORED ERA of WCW in 1999! So May to July 1999 of WCW certainly INTERESTED ME. As in, I would watch the entire Nitro replay on TNT until 2 in the morning after Raw. Not everything made a lot of sense, but there were a ton of cool matches given away involving Flair, Sting, Sid, Savage, Nash, DDP, Benoit, Rey, Kidman, Saturn, Raven, Malenko, Booker, etc. and that was good enough for me. A very strange period.

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  4. Ask Jesse Baker. I just go by his word.

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  5. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 24, 2014 at 11:37 AM

    You may like the new Cinema Sins vid on Cap 2.

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  6. I had totally forgotten about Harry Anderson as the bar hustler throughout the first season of Cheers. I'm going to be sad all over again when Coach dies.

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  7. CruelConnectionNumber2September 24, 2014 at 11:39 AM

    They would be advertising the unauthorized distribution of VCR PPV recordings!

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  8. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonSeptember 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    I liked when he hustled Diane out of the bar tab in the pool room.

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  9. CruelConnectionNumber2September 24, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    In 1999, had a gimmick where he looked in the mirror all the time!

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  10. Yeah, but in their defense, there's far more TV programming options in 2014 than there was in 1995.

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  11. LOL, I just finished that episode about an hour ago, that was classic stuff.


    After watching Wilfred and Sunny and Louis recently it's kind of soothing to go back to a well written innocent sitcom.

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  12. Following Jesse Baker's Advice: A solid life plan.

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  13. Ah yes, the ultimate con man.



    And very few characters have aged worse over time than Coach. I know the 80's was a different time, but I somehow just can't find any humor in an old guy who has serious brain damage due to multiple head shots throughout his life. Felt uncomfortable whenever he was on screen.

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  14. Wilfred is just atrocious. How awful must Eljiah Wodd's agent be to go from Frodo to that?

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  15. Elijah's company is making it, he watched the original in NZ during Rings filming, that whole show is Wood's project.

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  16. Ah in that case, how good must his drug dealer be?

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  17. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonSeptember 24, 2014 at 11:43 AM

    If by life you mean the sentence the judge is going to hand down from the rape involved in Jesse's plan then I agree.
    *Top 3 handshake*

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  18. He literally sold it to FX when they expressed confusion as "Well....what if me, Elijah Wood, major movie star, goes to TV for the first time ever?"


    That was his level of commitment I guess. I don't dislike the show but it definitely meanders around too much.

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  19. Yep, seriously. not only literally hundreds of extra channels, but on top of that, unlimited stuff at any time on the internet, either with Youtube, Netflix, or lots of other options. Just can't be compared.

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  20. Maybe if you hold the IC or US title for say, six months, you can trade it in for a World Title shot. Not at any time, like MITB, though.

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  21. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    He better watch out when he picks up his phone.

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  22. Well, but in a way a lot of the characters are like that. Coach has MCS, Cliff has Aspbergers, Norm is a terrible alcoholic.

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  23. ... if you think sanity is overrated.

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  24. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 24, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    Yeah, it's all about Rollins for now,

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  25. And Sheldon cooper basically has Autism. I guess I see your point. But part of me was relieved when Coach was no longer there. (then I found out he died in real life, so I felt like an a-hole)

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  26. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonSeptember 24, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    That's what I mean. The US and IC champs can alternate World title shots at the "Big 4"

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  27. Yeah I mean, characters are just like real people, the overall picture of their life is a depressing mess but when you hang out with them they're still quite fun on an experience by experience basis.


    So much of this first season is building the friendships between Coach/Carla/Sam/Diane trying to replace that dynamic with Woody...I don't have high hopes. I really feel like I'm watching this show for the first time, I probably haven't seen an episode since I was 10 or something.

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  28. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    So, whoever the champs are at 2 of those shows get title shots.

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  29. Doesn't that mean he would have been justified in murdering his wife and son?

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  30. I missed something, didn't I? lol

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  31. A lot of people defend Benoit murdering his family because he had brain damage.

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  32. Few on screen couples have had better chemistry than Sam and Diane. Like I literally wanted them to do it on TV right there and then.

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  33. I started watching on Monday and literally, no exaggeration whatsoever at all...the two of them are super obviously meant to be together in the first 60 seconds of the series. It's that fast.

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  34. Maybe he wants some barbecue?

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  35. Oh, I thought maybe there was some crazy thread I should go read.

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  36. Also, I'd give a leg to have that hair for 1 month of my life.

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  37. There are a couple floating around. I'm too damn lazy to bother pointing any of them out at the moment.

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  38. I think it was the season 2 premiere, Sam went to her place, and she was wearing a leggy gown... DAMN that girl is built!!!

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  39. I can't see them putting Ambrose in the main event UNLESS he gets major over like Austin or Daniel Bryan last year.

    He's popular, yes...but he's not a phenomenon.

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  40. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonSeptember 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    Maybe that's on the uncensored version.

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  41. Gunther the Nasty LoserSeptember 24, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Sam is a sex addict, Rebecca is a princess, Woody is a yokel

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  42. Right. An ugmo? That's a little much. His shoot interview is almost all about nailing chicks.

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  43. Carla might have a slight anger problem.

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  44. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonSeptember 24, 2014 at 12:14 PM

    Turns out later that Rebecca had a food addiction.

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  45. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 24, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    Don't worry. I'm bound to post another video featuring Benoit. Very soon.

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  46. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonSeptember 24, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    Yep. Maybe if you wanted to add intrigue you'd have the IC Champ wrestle the US Champ at WrestleMania for a World title shot later in the night.

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  47. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonSeptember 24, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    Brock would pick him up and spin him like Jet Screamer entering a room on the Jetsons.

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  48. Are we really buying this as a true story ,or just as a way to keep viewers hooked?

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  49. But they could've just came to my place and had a nitro party and watched!

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  50. Honestly I have no idea but it was beyond stupid either way. The premise that they wouldn't have a video of THEIR OWN SHOW was too much to believe.

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  51. He was loyal because he had an ironclad 10-year, $189 million contract that he signed in 2001.

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  52. Extant1979 - Ghetto SuperstarSeptember 24, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    Wait, hold on, I have a question. Maybe I missed it, but did anyone ever attack Nash? All that offering of money and no payoff? Or is the payoff to that at the PPV?

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  53. Nice to see that ABC still hasn't learned that putting a promising show head to head against the highest rated show on television is never a good idea (look at what happened when CBS stupidly put The Flash head to head against The Cosby Show).

    It should be moved to Sunday nights after football ends, that would be a much better time slot for the show.

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  54. The WWE needs a Shamrock sort of character today. Someone with a bit of edge who will never ever get to the tippy top, but will have a good view of it and be believable in the role. A real bad ass.

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  55. You won't be disappointed.

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  56. This match was the one I wanted to see in Sept. Classics. This marked a time of turnaround in number of legit WWE main eventers. Post WM14, only Austin and Taker seemed like credible champions. By this point, those two were joined by Kane, Rocky, Foley and HHH. Great time to be a fan.

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  57. Ah, I forgot about that!

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  58. My favorite Harry the Hat episode is when they're trying to win Coach's money back. "Did you see that? I scratched my nose because it itched."

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  59. Episode 22, Sam and Diane finally get together for four seconds and then can't even make the first kiss happen. Sam gets so angry he goes to throw Diane out of the office and when he opens the door legit 20 people are standing there with their ears cocked to hear what's going on. Legendary lol's.

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  60. I was there live for this! Rock was CRAZY over...moreso than Austin!

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  61. Some would say Dean Ambrose is already there.

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  62. I went through the series again a couple years back. It was totally worth it. As a kid I liked the Rebecca era (maybe because Frasier becomes such an awesome character during that time). Watching it again, I thought the majority of the Diane episodes were the true comedic masterpieces.


    And to your comment below, I think you'll be surprised how they handle Woody's arrival. It feels tactfully done instead of just plugging in a younger version of Coach.

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  63. Yeah so far the writing is just out of this world. I mean, even in the intro's "Cheers is filmed before a live studio audience" they're all done differently by each character. it's just of such good quality.


    And yeah I was the same,I thought Rebecca and Woody was the best part of the show when I was a kid, now at 34 I know I'm going to be depressed as hell when Diane goes, the chemistry there is just ridiculous off the charts.


    The show is oddly soothing to me, I sort of pine for the era before internetz.

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  64. I actually just watched this on the Network last week. Mick's promo before the match is tremendous, as most of his promos were around that time. Something about "refusing to sell for that abortion" that was becoming more popularly known as the People's Elbow.

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  65. RSG Update (for those that care): My SuperBrawl IV rant hit the forum today! http://rspwfaq.boards.net/thread/202/rock-star-gary-reflects-superbrawl

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  66. I always thought Mick was the most fun as Mankind.

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  67. Yes.....the DOUBLE People's Elbow!

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  68. If they want to talk to you, you better not listen you might wind up in critical condition.


    AMERICAN MALES~!

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  69. I think people tuned in expecting superheroes and no one really cares about Agent Coulson and friends.

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  70. Virgil's Gimmick TableSeptember 24, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    He is but he's going to eclipse that role and become one of THE guys very soon. He's less Shamrock and more Austin. Shamrock was never the focal point of shows like Ambrose often is.

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  71. I liked the idea of Rollins interfering, and I don't even have a problem with him doing so while Brock was being pinned. It creates intrigue (in theory, anyway) for the next match: Would Brock have kicked out, anyway? Did Cena have enough to put him away?


    The problem, for me, is that they're not doing a match at HIAC.

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  72. Foley's pre-match promo was amazing.

    As was this match. Rarely would a match like this work as anything other than a car wreck but Rock and Foley told a great story and created drama. Shamrock did a good job of contributing where he needed to.


    Definitely put the potential of a great Foley-Rock program on the map.

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  73. Cheers and Fraiser were a perfect tag team of great sitcoms.

    Gotta praise Brothers too because that show was taped in the same backlot as Cheers, had the same producers and lifted a lot of elements from Cheers.

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  74. AMBROSE will kick your ass because he's crazy. Shamrock will kick your ass AND he's crazy.

    AMBROSE will go on to be bigger than Shameock ever was. Shameock couldn't wear that denim.

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  75. More a combination of the talented, athletic Pillman of the late 80s, early 90s and the Hollywood Blonds/Horseman/Loose Cannon Pillman of the mid-90s.


    Some of us wondered what would Pillman have been with the crazy gimmick and without the injuries.

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  76. Thor is in Asgard, Banner is wandering the earth keeping a low profile, Stark is retired.....I can see why the entire Avengers squad couldn't have been assembled on short notice to deal with the SHIELD collapse. Hawkeye's absence was pretty noticeable, however, since he's a SHIELD guy.

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  77. Yeah, isn't that what a bar is supposed to be? A gathering of some very twisted people who have one thing in common: They like to have a beer or two or three after work.

    Besides, I would argue the characters in the movie Trees Lounge were more messed up than any of the characters on Cheers.

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  78. The old Jake Roberts/Rick Rude position? I see a few guys who could do it, but they'd have to escape the 50/50 philosophy.

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  79. Think this was the last time Flair actually hit a move off the top rope until against Carlito at Unforgiven 2005.

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  80. I'd argue Sheamus has this role, as WWE seems to have given up on him as a legit main event guy.

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  81. CruelConnectionNumber2September 24, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    This is the match (or specifically, the crowd) that made The Rock a star.

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  82. I think the Bunny might end up being that guy!!

    #WorldsMostDangerousBunny

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  83. Sheamus is firmly entrenched in the FELLA role. No ass kicker smiles that much. Or says FELLA. the guy has zero edge.

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  84. Nope. Yet another storyline that goes nowhere.

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  85. There wasn't nearly enough sarcastic cheering when Ric actually hit that axhandle. I'm pretty sure AA hit that move fewer than ten times in his career.

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  86. Never seen this match, need to check it out tonight.

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  87. "Sugar-Coated Testes...Is that a children's breakfast cereal?"

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  88. About how Monica Lewinsky was someone even he would've said no to in high school. One of my favorites.

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  89. He'd have been Austin's Moriarty, methinks.

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  90. "Elementary, my dear WHAT-son!"

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  91. Ugh, Ambrose taking inspiration from Andrew Scott, I want to vomit from the overly sweet taste of this idea.

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  92. If we're recapping Cheers, I can recap Blossom. Anthony and Shelley had their baby in a car last night It's actually an episode I remembered watching when it initially aired.

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  93. KEVIN KELLY: Mankind in tonight's cage match it appears that Ken Shamrock is looking for blood and The Rock is looking for glory, but what is it that you are looking for?

    MANKIND: Well Kevin Kelly I'm looking for an end to world hunger but I don't expect to have that happen in that match. But I'm going to overlook the stupidity of this question because I'm used to stupidity all my life. When I broke JoJo Miller's guns because I wanted them, in retrospect that was probably a stupid thing. When I saw an ground man urinating on an electric fence I thought that that was a stupid thing. When the president of this country (odd since they were in Canada) sacrficing a nation for a girl that even I would have turned down in high school is probably a stupid thing. But of all the stupid things I've seen in my life nothing rivals the people's elbow for sheer stupidity. So if you think that Mankind, in a Pay-Per-View match inside of a steel cage, is gonna lay down and sell that abortion you're even stupider than I look!

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  94. Gunther the Nasty LoserSeptember 24, 2014 at 2:37 PM

    Plus, whose titties did Shamrock ever master?

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  95. Gunther the Nasty LoserSeptember 24, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    HEY CANUDIANS,

    What aboot this hoser, eh?

    http://411mania.com/wrestling/wwe-hires-new-brodcaster/

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  96. Gunther the Nasty LoserSeptember 24, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Marv Cresto's marathon sitcom binges is something a sitcom character might do

    META

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  97. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 24, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Who has done it in the sitcom world?

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  98. Gunther the Nasty LoserSeptember 24, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    I don't know if anyone has, but it seems like something someone would do. For some reason, Kramer comes to mind.

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  99. Clarissa and Sam did it during an episode where Clarissa decided she was going to study commericals so they had to keep journals about all the different stuff they watched and the commercials they saw.


    Wow, I probably haven't thought about Clarissa in at least six jack off's.

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  100. This was a cool moment for those of us who had been Rock fans for a while already. But pretty much from about three weeks before this show, everyone at school was buzzing about how cool the Rock was.

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  101. The tribulations of being a graphic designer with a 39 inch TV in his office, lol.

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  102. Gunther the Nasty LoserSeptember 24, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Huh huh huh

    "39 inch"

    Heh heh

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  103. And yet they expect fans to actually STICK AROUND when your main angle 3 months ago is now aborted without a thought put in as to WHY the wolfpac is no longer a unit. That's why fans disappered IN DROVES, it was easier to change the channel than to figure out the answers to questions THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.

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  104. Yep. Crazy over. He just had this "cool" vibe that attracted those of us who couldn't buy all the way into Austin's redneck persona as "our guy."

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  105. Maybe if he turns heel or completely changes his character, fella.

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  106. Gunther the Nasty LoserSeptember 24, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Remember after the final ep and they all were plastered on The Tonight Show?

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  107. Going out on a limb here, but do you like Dean Ambrose?

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  108. Maybe. He's getting the Austin 97 booking for sure. I still have some doubts about him, but he's doing well so far.

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  109. I do not remember this at all, I'll put it on my list of shit to watch

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  110. Take out "Agent Coulson" from that, then I agree with you.

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  111. Not so much H3 at the time but I agree with the rest.

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  112. The characters still annoy the shit out of me (Skye just keeps getting worse and WORSE from a character and acting standpoint).


    Not to mention the idiot plotting that keeps plaguing things.

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  113. I just finished Seinfeld a month ago I don't remember anything about that particularly but watching all the Lucy's on VHS or something does sound very Kramerian.

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  114. "Those movies have gotten so strange "Here's a massive threat for our hero but just not quite massive enough for all the other heroes to come help so really not that massive a threat but still....drama!"


    The point to that threat is that Cap can't trust many people and his options were limited in who he could contact without tipping Hydra off.


    Your using Dragonball Z level logic in your criticisms.

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  115. I know Luger/Sting ended up having matches in WCW, but I always felt WCW could have promoted that as a main event feud instead of treating it as midcard filler.

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  116. I do. He's great.

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  117. I was kinda into AOS last year, but I just binge watched Arrow the last two weeks and quite frankly AOS feels amateurish now. I'm still not a fan of the music in AOS.. it takes away from the feel of the show. The acting and dialogue is still clunky. The Absorbing Man was done right though.. the dynamic of the show has changed so much from the first season. I will give it a chance.

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  118. They haven't said much but my understanding is that its gonna basically be another tv channel under the sky umbrella. Probably just the live stream with a few pieces of on demand programming

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  119. "...those of us who couldn't buy all the way into Austin's redneck persona as 'our guy.'"


    Yeah, all seven of you.

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  120. Well no, the point is that he can't call anyone else because they're not going to blow a Downey appearance in someone else's movie. They just spent a whole film building a team of people Cap can always trust and now he has an issue with a computer virus or whatever taking over SHIELD and he doesn't call the two amazeballs scientists that he knows personally?


    It didn't impact my enjoyment of the film at all but it is a weird plot issue to try to write around, that's all.

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  121. TJ: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/josh-mathews-reportedly-signed-tna-150701463.html


    Only an ass backward company like TNA would sign a TV interviewer without having a TV deal in place.

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  122. The Rock's wasn't bad either. The Rock's gonna raise his big right hand and his big left hand and lay the smackdown on both their candy @$$es

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  123. Your using idiot logic to assume Cap would be STUPID ENOUGH to call someone that Hydra might be looking in to. OR that he's super tight with the avengers after ONE MISSION.

    Greg Weisman of Gargoyles fame put it best: " I think many folks have been brought up to think of their heroes as all-knowing and infallible. It makes me, I'll admit, a little crazy."

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  124. This was supposed to be for a title shot but of course Rock was Russo'd out of it. Yeah, he won it anyway but he never actually got a one-on-one match

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  125. I always thought Austin was cooler than Rock. Rock felt like a dickhead trying to be cool, Austin was cool because of all the crazy shit he did.

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  126. There are dozens of us! Dozens!

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  127. I don't feel good about up voting this.

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  128. Can anyone logically explain to me why Nash gets the title shot when he got beat by Goldberg last month? Course, Goldberg was soon taken off TV due to contract disputes anyway.

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  129. Good thing we aren't talking about life, we're talking about comic book movies.


    That was sort of the point of the whole Avengers film, they know and trust each other now. Why trust Tony? I don't know, because he laid on the wire vis a vis the nuke he went into another dimension or whatever to get rid of, sort of fulfilling the whole foreshadowing during his and Cap's confrontation. He didn't seemingly tell anyone he downloaded the information? There was an entire scene where he outlines all the information he got via the download...


    You're arguing a non issue, I didn't suggest that the movie was poor because of this one hole that every Marvel movie now has to write around, I just said it's weird.


    As someone I've never heard of from something I've never heard of fame once put it, "Boring."

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  130. So it only makes sense that Lesnar/Cena culminates in the Cell, same with Rollins/Ambrose.


    Anything else is just going to look like Punk/Ryback in 2012.

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  131. in fairness there was no champion for him to challenge until he won the tournament for the vacant title.

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  132. You're not kidding, the fact that Mick took a character like Mankind, which started out as a Hannibal Lecter-like psychopath, and somehow turned him into a lovable teddy bear goofball is someone with some TALENT.

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  133. TJ: WWE hired Arda Ocal. I guess it's The Score takeover

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  134. Well c'mon that's obvious. I don't think Rock cut a bad promo from 1998 until he started his final stint in WWF.

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  135. *Kyle Edwards.


    How the fuck is that clearly Middle Eastern guy gonna be Kyle Damn Edwards?

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  136. Every time he and Kevin Kelly were in the back it was gold.

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  137. Granted I was a mark at the time but I believed DX HHH could defeat other main eventers. Ken Shamrock was there as a "break glass in case of emergency" borderline main eventer, too.

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  138. They don't want the redneck fans to think he's some ISIS insider.

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  139. He was talking about people that couldn't buy into Austin as "our guy", not Mankind's fans.

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  140. I liked how rock mankind and shamrock (at this point) had no beef with one another but just wanted to be champion and would absolutely destroy each other. I wish they put that emphasis on the world title today

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  141. this is true but I thought for sure he was going to get it at Judgment Day

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  142. Why not Triple H? Coming off the Ladder Match with Rock it was clear that Triple H was ready for the next level. The injury slowed him down but late 1998 Hunter was believable for the next level.

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  143. "Samantha has officially been named Torrie for no apparent reason."

    I may be mistaken, but I believe Samantha was named Torrie because that's her name. I mean, I agree that renaming her is silly, but there was an APPARENT reason this time.

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  144. Naming her Torrie makes sense, but why not just keep her as Samantha? That's what I see no reason for.

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  145. I know WWF would often do a hard sell for PPV "replays" for a week or even two weeks after the event back in 95. Not sure if WCW did as well, but that may be the explanation. It took a lot longer for PPV to go to home video back then, too, compared to how quick DVD's come out today. And of course no Youtube.

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  146. I think SK said it best.

    If DJ Ran doesn't get the fuck out of my area, I'm going to sue.

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  147. I think with all the people from the asylum being around, they should have had Flair bring in some crazy badass that he met there to take out Nash.

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  148. At least WWF said buy the replay. WCW was more like - well we lost the still shots -- and we lost the replay. Stay tuned because Shawn Micharls only talks for an hour.

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  149. Was disco vs Das Wunderkid that good?

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  150. Pillman is just owning the wrestling business here.

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  151. This show makes my head hurts. Does wcw know that nash and page are headlining the ppv? They haven't even promoted an issue between them. This is like a show that was booked on a napkin that got smudged and people just filled in the blanks.

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  152. Their irresistible and unpredictable...what? Finish your thought!!!

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  153. That's how the song goes. Their IRRESISTABLE~! Their UNPREDICTABLE~!


    AMERICAN MAAAAAAAAALES~!

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  154. Yes..I know. It's actually "They're", which is short for "they are". Their implies possession of something, hence my joke.

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  155. Ohhh ... went over my head, sorry.


    AMERICAN MALES~! AMERICAN MALES~! AMERICAN MALES~!

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  156. Shocked and disappointed Scott trashed the whole stall line they had about the PPV. This was a common thing back in the day, especially with WCW and especially on Nitro for those early shows. This was pre-internet remember, and WCW was a master of bullshit in terms of dragging out actually giving away PPV resuls and twists on the air until the very end of an episode.

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