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QOTD (Digest) #68 - Kurt Angle

Question of the day: What is the first thing that comes to mind when you think of Kurt Angle?


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  1. The Milk Truck on Raw is the first moment that came into mind.

    First match is Brock at Mania.

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  2. How he had so many god damn variations of his character that he could bring to the table. He could be (and at different times was): pompous jerk, comical nerd, dead serious bastion of america, creep, intense wrestlebot 6000, and so on, and so on.

    It's too bad that Angle wasn't all there in late 2005, early 2006. Because that character he had turned into by the end of his tenure was an amazing one that really should have been given an extended run with the belt. Really, a tweener, with an awesome singlet, legit black wrestling boots--the "wrestling machine" as he was being come to be known as. He was so good in late 2005, that he was absolutely CARRYING John Cena in some of Cena's first wwe championship defences.

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  3. My name's Kurt Angle and what the heck. I won a gold medal with a broken freaking neck.

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  4. The first thing I think of when you bring up Kurt Angle was how he received a bigger push than Chris Jericho in early 2000, and how I thought it was undeserved. It showed the great lengths Vince went to to push his own creations as opposed to ones from WCW and beyond.

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  5. A hopeless waste of talent and opportunity. Guy had the world at his feet and chose to give it up.

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  6. What the hell does this even mean?

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  7. He was a million miles better than Jericho.

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  8. A comet that faded into irreverence far sooner than he deserved to.

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  9. "Tap or I'll break your fucking ankle!"

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  10. No way, not 6 months into his career.

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  11. It means he had everything gifted to him and chose to throw it all down the shitter so he could be an obsessive loser drug addict piece of shit that no one in their right mind will touch.


    Kurt Angle is a fucking loser, consider the fact that they're more interested in JEFF HARDY than this asshole.

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  12. That's a little harsh.

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  13. Kurt Angle v HBK: one of the most over rated matches in history.

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  14. Kurt's a walking tragedy waiting to happen, all the result of his own dumb choices.

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  15. Mister_E_BarrettsLastPrivateerSeptember 2, 2014 at 6:20 AM

    One of the best of all time, basically from the day of his debut.

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  16. Ten years of training, and he wins an Olympic gold medal with a broken neck.

    Kurt Angle is a lot of things, but "loser" isn't one of them.

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  17. Yep. Dude was a freak, you'll never see anyone like that again.

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  18. Drug addicts are winners? Lmao. He won a gold medal almost twenty years ago, what has he done since but lots of drugs and stalking?


    One achievement does not a hero make when that achievement is surrounded my total loser behavior.

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  19. Agreed, his first 3 years were on par with no one but not 6 months in. I felt Jericho was serverly underused.

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  20. That is the dumbest thing ever written. Grow up.

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  21. 3 3/4 stars at most.

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  22. Outside of the ring I always think about the hilarious Angle/Austin/McMahon skits that were so awesome I still crack up when I watch them today.

    Inside of the ring? Too many good memories to mention.

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  23. What did I say that was untrue exactly?


    He's a drug addict. He's a stalker. They're more interested in Hardy because fucking Jeff Hardy (!) is a more reliable wrestler.


    What is your argument?

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  24. An amazing worker who has let himself go because of personal demons or whatever else. He's a hollow shell of his former self and it's a shame because he was so damn good.

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  25. One achievement? He won a ton of other amateur titles including a World Champonship. He headlined Wrestlemania. He's had more five star matches than you've had pieces of ass.

    Personally, he's a trainwreck. Professionally he's a winner.

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  26. He's had a fine career in TNA, drug addicts aren't pieces of shit, and you're an embarrassment for saying so.

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  27. Kurt Angle v Ken Anderson: one of the most under rated matches ever.

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  28. Professionally he's a winner, so much so that no one wants to hire him, that's how awesome he is.


    He's spent the last ten years in the bush leagues because the majors have zero interest in him, total mark of a winner! Lmao.

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  29. Drug addicts are embarrassments, people judging them for their shitty behavior are not.


    Kurt Angle doesn't need to be coddled like a child, he's an adult, apparently.

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  30. By your logic, the New York Yankees are losers because they haven't won a World Series in five years.

    You are probably not a loser, because you obviously don't even know what it's like to try to win anything.

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  31. Ha! Great talk, dude! Please do me a favor, don't ever have kids, thanks.

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  32. All the result of wrecking his body for our entertainment.*


    Fixed that for you.

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  33. They are losers, the Mariners have a better record this year.


    I do like this though, it's pretty telling how far people will go out of their way to enable this piece of shit. A lot more drug addict and stalker sympathizers than I ever would have thought here on the blog, would we be as excited to defend him if he didn't wrestle well?

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  34. And yet there's a whole generation of wrestlers today that don't get caught stalking their wives. Weird.

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  35. When he burst out crying after his DUI was dropped.


    When he burst out crying after his assault charge was dropped.


    When he burst out crying when he announced he was going back to amateur wrestling at 42 years old.


    When he burst out crying on the Stern show when someone asked him about his kids.


    Dude's clearly a hero.

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  36. Marv's Guide to Being a Man; don't cry. Gotcha.

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  37. Don't cry as a result of your drug intake, lol.


    Let's not pretend he was sober. (Although it seems that's all you want to do, pretend he was ever sober)

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  38. Who's enabling anybody? Call him an asshole, which he is, and not a loser, which he's not.

    No amount of dead babies can take away the fact that Chris Benoit was a tremendous professional wrestler. And no amount of DUIs can take away the fact that Kurt Angle has accomplished more in life than you ever will.

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  39. I don't judge the worth of a person based on drugs and alcohol. Reply back to me when you've entered the 21st century.

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  40. I won't lose my whole family as the result of being a bumbling drug addict, so I'll always have that over Kurt, lol.


    But you're right, he was a hell of a wrestler, he deserves all the excuses.

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  41. What excuses?

    Never mind...you're too much of a winner to spend all day arguing on a blog.

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  42. What other criteria do you judge a person on but their choices?

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  43. Kurt definitely has his fair share of demons, but as far as I know, dude has only hurt himself because of his addictions. And since those addictions are the result of the wrestling business, he has my sympathy. Especially since he has been sober for awhile now.

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  44. Shane McMahon ... King of the Ring 2001

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  45. I'm saying things you can't argue (because we all know Kurt's a drug addict loser) and you're only response is to call me names.


    I love internet.

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  46. Choices imply that we have free will, which is clearly ridiculous. This is all predestined reactions.

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  47. Oy vey. So wait...whose fault is it that Kurt's a drug addict? Not Kurt's obviously...who then?


    This is cool though, you can't judge me for disliking Kurt, I didn't decide to! Or something....wtf.

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  48. Somebody has to be at fault for everything?


    Ask your God, maybe He Knows.

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  49. Well, I can definitely see how much easier it would be making excuses for poor behavior if you didn't think the person themselves was in charge of their own actions. That does make it very easy, that's for sure.


    This thread went off the rails, I'm not even sure what the fuck you're talking about.

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  50. Easily Anderson's best.

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  51. I can't in good conscience blame his addiction on wrestling because there are thousands of guys that aren't addicts.


    He chose to take pills and drink, he chose to stalk, he chose to assault, he chose to get behind a car and drive inebriated. None of those things are the businesses fault.

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  52. Not sure you know how lucky you are to not be a drug or alcohol abuser.

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  53. Luck?! Hahaha.


    So it had nothing to do with my own choices, that's awesome. I guess when I made a conscious effort in my twenties to quit drinking I was just....lucky. I guess every time I've been offered a drug and said no I was just being...lucky.


    Fuck that.


    Answer the question, what other criteria do you judge someone on if not their own choices?

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  54. Everything that can go wrong with a long wrestling career just short of OD or murder.....yet.

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  55. HowmuchdoesthisguyweighSeptember 2, 2014 at 6:56 AM

    Ummm the 3 i's

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  56. Keep right on making excuses for shitty behavior, your kids will be stellar examples to society of what happens when Nothing Is Ever Your Fault.

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  57. Thousands of guys aren't addicts, and there are still thousands of guys who were. C'mon now, pain pills were a huge epidemic in wrestling.

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  58. More personal moments than anything else:
    October 1999, I got to meet him before RAW in Atlanta, where he wrestled in the opening dark match (against Pete Gas, IIRC). He was just as polite and humble as he could be, and took the time to sign for everyone. I spoke to him briefly about being back in Atlanta, and his Olympic experience.
    February 2000, back in Atlanta for RAW, I met him again. He remembered our convesation, and I congratulated him on going from dark match to Champion in such a short period of time. Once again, he was very humbled and appreciative of his quick success and the fans there to see him.
    October 2012, at a TNA House Show. He was the "Special Guest" after the event for people to get pictures with. There were 8 of us in our group (My wife and I, our 4 children, and 2 friends). Even as TNA employees were rushing everybody in and out of the ring for the photo op, he still took a moment with each of the kids.
    I can't speak for anyone else, but I can say that my interactions with him have always been positive.

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  59. Right, I mean obviously they were but there's drugs all over sports, it's not actually the sport that makes a person take the drugs though.


    There were plenty of people in his own generation that didn't take painkillers, including fucking Mick Foley of all people!

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  60. HowmuchdoesthisguyweighSeptember 2, 2014 at 6:59 AM

    "I'm just a sexy Kurt"
    "I'll make your ankle hurt"

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  61. He was good until he thought he was a ring general. Then, he exposed himself of being a really poor in-ring psychologist.

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  62. No-one ever picked up how to be a great professional wrestler in every aspect any quicker than Kurt Angle.

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  63. You choose to be a holier than thou ass, so you're doing well with that choice, I guess. When you're done patting yourself on the back for being better than everyone we can finish this conversation. In the future, however, when I see your postings I'll be sure to ignore them on the basis of stupidity.

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  64. Not sure you know the definition of "shitty behavior". Thanks again, Marv.

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  65. You can't argue anything I've said so you're resorting to calling me names.


    You also still can't answer the question, I suspect because your own choices in life haven't been so wonderful and thus you are keen to make excuses for everyone else that does that same loser shit.


    WHAT OTHER CRITERIA CAN YOU JUDGE A PERSON ON BUT THEIR ACTIONS.


    Can't answer that, lol, can ya.

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  66. Mick Foley admits he takes pain pills. It's in "Foley is Good".

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  67. You cant compare other sports to wrestling. These guys get no offseason and have to do whatever it takes to get back on the road to continue making money.

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  68. Taking drugs, drinking and driving, assaulting people, you know, stuff your hero does and you're stuck making excuses for.

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  69. It's not luck. Alcoholism and drug abuse are choices. Treating them as a disease is a bunch of nonsense we have allowed to become accepted in our society to enable people to make bad choices and have excuses for their weaknesses and failings as individuals.

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  70. FINALLY. Someone that doesn't have to make excuses for (I suspect) themselves and can actually just look at loser behavior for what it is, fucking loser behavior.




    Thanks Lax.

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  71. But by your arguement, Mick Foley is a drug addict loser.

    I hope and pray you never get sick or a car accident or anything like that... "Sir we need to give you some anthesia so you can sleep through and survive neck surgery"

    "No!! That would make me a drug addict"

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  72. Right, taking a pill because of a CAR ACCIDENT is exactly the same as getting drunk and driving through a school yard, or assaulting people, or stalking your wife. TOTALLY THE SAME.


    My god the fucking excuses you people will make to justify the guys behavior for NO OTHER REASON than you liked his wrestling.


    Tremendous stuff.

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  73. Did he? I remember in Blood and Sweatsocks he said he hated them and only took like a half a pill after an ACL surgery.

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  74. I feel very strongly about this subject. Being an alcoholic, or a drug addict, or a smoker is a choice. Hell being fat is a choice (in 99% of cases) we as a society should make that choice a lot more difficult than we currently do, but it is still a choice. Leukemia is a disease ALS (so I can be trendy!) is a disease... you don't go out and buy products to give you them. The other things I mentioned are caused either by poor education or poor decision making and get ZERO sympathy from me.

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  75. You're saying that make of a man is made by bad choices in his life, I say you're wrong. You can turn to drugs and alcohol during bad times and still be a caring husband and a loving father. You can still be there for friends that need you in times of worry. You can still make mortgage payments and still hit the bottle too frequently.

    But I hazard to guess you're not a believer in that. To you, it's black and white. I turned down drugs so I'm morally superior to someone who didn't. That is the dumbest logic in the world. I'm seriously done talking to you because you are a blind man unwilling to open his eyes. And if you don't want me to resort to name calling don't be a moron.

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  76. Agreed. The guy wasn't anything else besides "Wrestler" and it was awesome.

    They demoted him to ECW and he goes fine "I'll just go out there every night, tear the house down and make ties show must watch TV"

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  77. My thought always basically boils down to, "What you think the whole world doesn't want to go out and get fucking wasted every day to forget all their stresses?" Of course everyone does, but everyone doesn't, because doing so has repercussions that adversely affect the rest of your life.


    Some guy down there called me holier-than-thou because I'm not a drug addict like Kurt Angle. Lmao, what the fuck, is this really where we're at, where not being an addict is an insult?




    Nothing is ever anyone's own fault, it's a cool little blameless society we've built for ourselves here at the new fall of Rome.

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  78. And I understand that. That's what they tell you in recovery too. But I have friends and family who have been down that road and those who haven't should be lucky they don't have to deal with that on a daily basis.

    But to say those friends and family are pieces of shit like Marv said is offensive and just wrong.

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  79. Jericho is the most over rated wrestler by the IWC. Ever.

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  80. Disagree, that's Dean Ambrose.

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  81. Lol, had to end that with an insult didn't ya? How is that moral high ground of yours treating ya?


    I never said taking a drug made someone a loser, I said being an unstoppable addict that ends up in jail over and over and over and over because of drugs makes a person a loser.


    You really think I give a shit if you smoked some weed or something? Who cares?


    But making excuses for this guy who just over and over and over and over makes the same bad choices? Fuck him, he's a loser, and I say that based ONLY on his choices.

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  82. I don't get the fuss over Ambrose either, but Jericho has been being over rated by IWC since like 1998 when Dean was graduating high school.

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  83. More back slapping from Marv.

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  84. 1998 Jericho is so gangsta, it's unbelievable.

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  85. I think you are to close to this subject to argue it effectively and objectively.

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  86. If they just kept doing it over and over again, they would be. Like Kurt, who just doesn't stop.


    I don't care if someone was an addict in their past, you're twisting this up with your own issues, I think overcoming addiction is amazing and deserves all the respect in the world.


    But no one gets a free fucking pass for choosing not to overcome it. If you want to keep doing those things I'd just as soon you die and be out of my life.




    (Editorial you, I apologize I often get in trouble for writing in that style, I don't actually mean "you" personally)

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  87. Disagree, I'm knowledgeable about the subject because of past experiences, both good and bad.

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  88. More excuses from someone that can't face their own failures.


    Been totally obvious since this discussion started, btw.

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  89. You aren't making your case in a good way. Even though you are on the wrong side there are ways to make your side's case that are difficult to argue... but if I had no dog in this fight and just read it as an outsider I would take his side more than yours based on what has been said.

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  90. I can see that point, finally, Marv. I've been on both sides of the fence when it comes to addiction: those who have a heart of gold, want to quit and are desperately trying and those who are desperate addicts, unwilling ever to change.

    There is no time limit on when someone can quit. Kurt made mistakes for several years and made many mistakes. He's says he's now clean and he should applauded for his strength. If he fucks up again, he can be taken to the woodshed like all addicts who relapse.

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  91. Glad I asked you to weigh in on your opinion then.

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  92. It's a public forum not a private conversation dipshit, you don't have to ask someone to weigh in.

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  93. Thanks again, bud, for weighing in. Glad I asked for it.

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  94. Are you sure you are not the drug addict? Are you a loser like Kurt Angle and your family? Is that why your reading comprehension is so poor? Remember the other day when you said you had worn out your welcome? You were right... go take some more drugs and stay the fuck out of here.

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  95. That's all I'm really saying, though as usual it took me sixty more posts than necessary to convey it.


    Anyway I'm off for a cigarette because despite my protests, I am actually an addict loser piece of shit.

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  96. Glad we could reach an understanding, Marv. Enjoy that butt.

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  97. Stop it, bro. Calling my family losers is out of line and you know it. I'm passionate about the things I believe in, as are you. You have every right to say my opinion is wrong, and I'll do the same.

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  98. Crikey Mate Down Under AussieSeptember 2, 2014 at 7:54 AM

    http://youtu.be/3ii2gt0yJcE

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  99. Oh and let's not pretend that just because we are equally entitled to an opinion that our opinions are equal. If you think addiction is a disease and addicts are helpless and deserve pity or sympathy then my opinion is superior to yours.

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  100. Yeah I'm with the blog on this one....as great as Jericho is, Angle was better.....phenominal in every sense of the word at his best. From the very beginning when he had the three I's

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  101. A baked potato.

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  102. Ha! Eat shit, bro. Because that's what I said verbatim. Like I said, thanks for weighing in, glad I asked your opinion, dude.

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  103. Wow I guess you are like your family a drug addicted loser.

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  104. Disagree on that one, Darren. He grew into his greatness, no doubt, just wanted Jericho to get a push over Angle at that point.

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  105. parallax is hardcore for calling me a drug addict loser. Seriously, bro, keep to stuff you know about, like eating dicks.

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  106. Just calling it like it is. Sorry that you are such a failure.

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  107. What else you got, bro?

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  108. Heroin? Oh no wait that is your family.

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  109. What can I say that will end this amicably? Because I'm not posting on this message board to make enemies.

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  110. "I'm gonna break your fucking ankle, Rock!"

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  111. The entirety of 2000. He just got it in every way.

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  112. Intensity
    Integrity
    Intelligence

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  113. Just don't be a wise ass when people say something to you. I offered you some advice on how you were coming off and you got smart with me so I went into attack mode.

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  114. Oooooh, jimmy crack corn and I don't care . . I've got Olympic gold

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  115. It didn't take him long.....His greatness was readily apparent less than a year into his run. At the very least, by the time he got his first WWE title run (late 2000), Angle and Jericho were equals

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  116. I really liked his 2006 Smackdown run after Eddie died and Batista got hurt, and it just got cut so short. He showed up and won the belt his first night on the show. He had one of the all time classics with Taker at No Way Out 06, the WM 22 Main Event Triple Threat with him, Orton, and Rey had all the makings of a tremendous match and it got cut short and only lasted like 10 minutes (Probably because HHH needed the time for his full Conan entrance).


    After that, they did nothing. I think he got a rematch on Smackdown weeks later which was a DQ. He was pushed into an awful feud with Mark Henry, and then they sent him to ECW but shortly let him go afterwards (for obvious reasons).


    If they had ran with his 'Wrestling Machine' gimmick who knows, it might have saved Smackdown as a brand. Instead, they jobbed Rey out to everyone and anyone in non-title matches, he dropped it to JBL, and it was never really the same after expect for small pockets of goodness like King Booker

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  117. I'm more than happy to take advice from people who can see both sides of an argument, but when someone says I'm wrong and then gives me advice...? Especially in a condescending tone? Seriously, bro. Anyways, good talk, see you on the board.

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  118. Begrudingly agree they were equals in late 2000, not early 2000.

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  119. The other thing is Angle/Joe being the final nail in the coffin for TNA. They invested so much in Joe, and they really needed to establish him as on equal footing with Angle by putting Joe over in their first match, and TNA being TNA blew it. Same thing happened with Christian the year before (which wasn't as egregious because Christian vanquished Jarrett). It cemented TNA as losers content to live of WWE scraps rather than build their own guys. Angle & Christian were obviously really talented at the time, but just think about what Vince would have done in this situation. He would have 100% put over his guys to protect what he built and then incorporate the new guys down the line.

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  120. His match with Shawn Michaels at WM. Pretty damn great.

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  121. Wow, there's a ton of heat in this thread regarding alcohol and drug abuse which surprises me none at all.
    My two cents is I never appreciated the "woah is me" attitude Kurt had whenever he got into trouble and then immediately said "He was going to get better right away."
    I don't use drugs but drink one to times a week and whenever I'm hungover I basically treat the day like it was any other day. I've gone great measures in cutting down my alcohol intake in the last three years by getting involved in different activities. I don't know if I'll ever stop drinking but I like that I've gone to wanting to drink every night to choosing to do more productive things when I'm home by myself.

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  122. What do I think of? World class Olympian who took to WWE's style faster than anyone before him, meteoric rise and disappointing fall. He deserves to get himself clean, and interred into the WWE Hall of Fame.

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  123. I wasn't being condescending. I was explaining something to you that you didn't understand and you response was "I DIDN'T ASK YOU" so I decided to put you in your place (see that was an example of condescension)

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  124. His matches with Benoit. Total classics

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  125. Angle went from being a dude I liked to one of my favorite wrestlers of all time after watching the Network. I forgot how awesome he was when I was a mark that just rooted for the faces.

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  126. Nobody puts baby in the corner.

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  127. Nobody's making excuses for him. We're calling out your absurdity for discrediting his laundry list of accomplishments because of his poor personal choices. Regardless of how much of an asshole he may be, he's accomplished a ton in wrestling.

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  128. I think of his awesome "apology" to HHH for kissing Steph where he said something like "I'm sorry Hunter. I'm sorry for showing your wife the kind of passion that you could never show her. Not even if your life depended on it!" Within a year of debuting, this guy was main eventing PPVs with Rock and HHH, and totally delivering

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  129. I also thought it was interesting how he kinda served as a litmus test for Cena throughout his ascent. Cena debuted against him 2002, then he had the first great match of his career against him at No Mercy, then he dealt with him in the evil authority figure angle in 2004, and then beat him at No Way Out to get his #1 Contender spot for the WWE title.

    Although on the other hand, their WWE title feud later in the year is also what badly exposed Cena and lead to the crowd turning on him even more violently than when he faced Jericho.

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  130. I could agree with that.....WrestleMania 2000 in the 3 way, Jericho & Benoit were (admittedly) a hair better.....by No Mercy, Angle had pretty much hit his stride. I think that Summer where he Rock and Triple H had the 3-way feud did a lot for him

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  131. cowardwhotriedtoquitSeptember 2, 2014 at 9:16 AM

    It's True, It's True.

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  132. How's dad's crack habit coming along?

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