Tuesday, September 9, 2014

RIP Sean O'Haire?



Hey Scott,

Scotty Riggs is saying Sean O'Haire passed away.  Not sure if that's true or BS.  But thought you'd want to know.

https://twitter.com/realscottyriggs/status/509512052126126080

Dave Tomlinson



Too bad if true, as I'd heard about him having pretty huge personal troubles in the years since he retired.  

200 comments:

  1. You aren't telling me something that I don't already know.

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  2. Too bad he couldn't translate those video packages live, they were awesome.

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  3. I doubt any of the casuals were watching back then + I'm sure the date of expiration has expired on the gimmick, so why not slap that gimmick on a newcomer to debut with or someone on the main roster that needs a reinvention?

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  4. Always amazes he never made it. He had the look and could work well enough. Sad news to hear.

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  5. I wonder what killed him?

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  6. I hope it's not true, I enjoyed his work.

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  7. Couldn't talk on a live mic. That's why the Devil's Advocate gimmick didn't carry over past the vignettes, apparently.

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  8. Sad if true. Still, I am grateful wrestlers don't die young as they did even 5 years ago. This is an unfortunate rare exception, if true (and hopefully not).

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  9. You see that coffin. Go ahead. Flip it over! It'll be shocking. And people will have a laugh. And in a place as sad as a funeral, that will be catharsis. People need it. But hey. I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know.

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  10. R.I.P. MEAT - CrankyVince

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  11. But that was Shawn Stasiak...

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  12. I feel like we'd have more serious confirmation by now but I wouldn't be shocked.

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  13. Obituary - http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Sean-Christopher-Haire-101671208


    :(

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  14. Never let the facts interfere with a good one-liner.

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  15. Check out Comment 2 under Memories & Candles at the top.

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  16. He probably ends up as the next generations version of Sting if WCW never closes down.

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  17. I'd recently been going through all of the WCW PPVs from 1999-2001 on the Network and had really come to appreciate O'Haire's work. He was a good talent.

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  18. I remember him being pegged as the next big thing when he and Jindrak were the WCW tag champs.

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  19. not sure if serious. He had a good look, but couldn't talk that well. More of a lighter weight Batista.

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  20. I thought he was one of the only reasons to watch the last days of WCW.. I really thought he would take off in the WWF.

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  21. I don't mean he becomes a direct copy of Sting. Just that he is probably the guy they build the company behind.

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  22. Plus he was a piece of shit in real life.

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  23. He was still young and new to the business back then. If he was motivated he could have developed decent promo skills with more experience. I just look at O'Haire as a guy with a bunch on untapped potential that was never realized.

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  24. "Celebration of Life" Jesus Christ does everything need some highfalutin bullshit name? It's a fucking funeral.

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  25. If true, R.I.P. Dude had a lot of talent but was never in the right place at the right time.

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  26. I think a few people on this board will probably refer to your funeral as a "Celebration Of Death"

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  27. You know it's legit by the liberal use of "brother".

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  28. and the fact that he signed his name.. indisputable.

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  29. It will be a forum exclusive obviously.

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  30. Yup. There's every chance that his shitty personality (and had he been around post-wellness, his steroid habit) would have torpedoed him, but man, he was on TRACK in WCW during their death spiral and then got a second chance in the WWE and was doing really well until he got steamrolled by the Hogan/Piper angle.

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  31. He beat up women on more than one instance

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  32. I never knew that the O stood for Christopher.

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  33. Too bad. This guy was great in his short time in the bigs.


    I wonder what killed him? It sounded like he had some personal problems.

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  34. This is a really bad week for woman beaters.

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  35. I thought they already did that with Bray Wyatt.

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  36. Guess it is true

    http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Sean-Christopher-Haire-101671208

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  37. Sad to hear. One can speculate how big he could have become in wrestling had he been capable of cutting a live promo...well...before the inevitable personal problems / demons did him in.


    His Wikipedia says he was a hair stylist. Now, I usually believe everything I read on the internet, but is that true?

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  38. My guess is the Wrestler Special: heart attack caused by steroid use.

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  39. What happened to Stone Cold?

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  40. Possible, but I've found when it's suicide, for one reason or another, media write-ups usually say "found dead." "Died" seems to be used overwhelmingly often when it's (semi-)natural causes.

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  41. Real Scotty Riggs...someone is going around on Twitter making themselves the FAKE Scotty Riggs?

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  42. Sting had a good look and could never talk at all.

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  43. I follow Scotty Riggs.
    He is the fucking man

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  44. Maybe so but my brain can't bear the proposition of an imposter.

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  45. Not the same thing. People called him the new Waylon Mercy because of the Hawaiian shirts and white pants and the new Sean O'Haire because he was all "dark" and "manipulative."

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  46. Ask him about the time he carried the flag for Luger.

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  47. PS WWE buried this guy by pairing him with obese, over the hill useless fuck Piper but I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.

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  48. Or read about it in my sensational Scotty Riggs shoot interview recap

    http://www.rspwfaq.net/2014/04/rf-video-shoot-interview-with-scotty.html

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  49. I get it He's the Fucking Man because he fucked a lot of ladies, amirite?

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  50. He buried himself with a negative star PPV match against Rikishi.
    He looked horrendous in that match

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  51. Ask Harvey Whippleman's wife

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  52. I only have the interest and attention span of a single tweet.

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  53. If they want to talk to you, you better not listen. You might wind up in critical condition.

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  54. I see I failed

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  55. Rikishi is fucking terrible. They could have debuted him against someone with talent. I cant believe that useless nepotist comedy gimmick fuck is going in the hall of fame.

    Fuck Rikishi. I'd rather he was dead.

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  56. Or overdose.

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  57. Watch the match. O'Haire was awful. It wasn't Rikishi's fault he wrestled the way he did.

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  58. I would...but who hasn't had her at this point? Except for Pat Patterson and the Brooklyn Brawler, anyway...

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  59. Rikishi couldn't work at all and was the most loathsome character ever after his two months of relevance in 2000 so I highly doubt that.

    O'Haire had plenty of solid matches in WCW.

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  60. Rikishi is Anoa'i. He can work.

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  61. WWE changed his style and he could not work the way they wanted him to and the result was what we saw. He couldn't make the transition

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  62. I was tuned out when he had his WWE run, but one of my favorite moments was Jindrak and O'Haire basically squashing Luger and Bagwell at the last (I think? One of the last couple) WCW ppvs. I always wonder if wrestling attracts people with (supposed) personal issues or if wrestling gives them the issues. It's a spectrum I suppose. Those with a tendency to having issues with actual violence, drug use, etc. probably aren't done any favors when entering the wrestling lifestyle, I guess.

    Longest thing I've ever written here. Back to lurking now...

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  63. See post: re Nepotism


    They only Anoia'as who don't suck fucking ass are Yoko and Rocky.

    The Usos would be fine if their gimmick wasn't putrid white meat bullshit.

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  64. And yet, Rikishi was over. Go figure.

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  65. What way did they want him to work? What style? Like who? Did 2003 WWE have any vision

    One more time: Fuck Rikishi.

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  66. So you're saying they can work, but their gimmick doesn't let them?

    Either they can work or they can't. The Anoa'i family has a pretty good track record. By the way, the Maivia branch (i.e. Rock) isn't related by blood.

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  67. Adam "Colorado" CurrySeptember 9, 2014 at 8:39 PM

    Yoko could work, but Rikishi can't? Dafuq?

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  68. Yes. re: The Usos. That's it. Four good Anoia's plus one dead in in Umaga. Bad track record.

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  69. Yoko was a way better storyteller in ring than Rikishi.

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  70. Didn't he have Piper by that match? I THINK I remember that.

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  71. Rikishi was not over in 2003. Even a little bit. He was DONE by early 2001 and that he was around in 03 was insane.

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  72. Adam "Colorado" CurrySeptember 9, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    What story did he ever tell besides "I'm really fat?"

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  73. His matches had an underdog and an arc.

    Rikishi's matches had grown men allowing them to rub his ass in their face.

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  74. Rikishi was a tag team champion with Scotty 2 Hotty in 2004. I don't think he was DONE quite yet.

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  75. HHH had a nine month title reign and Big Show was main eventing multiple ppvs for the WWE title.


    So no, 2003 WWE had no vision.

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  76. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomerySeptember 9, 2014 at 8:45 PM

    They basically grounded O'Haire into a dull power hoss.

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  77. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomerySeptember 9, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    "I'd heard about him having pretty huge personal troubles in the years since he retired. "


    But you're not telling us anything that we don't already know.

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  78. Post your recap one tweet at a time.

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  79. An hour late and a dollar short

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  80. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 9, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    Just spent the last few minutes catching up on his life/career.


    I will not bury the guy even further. If only he had shaken JBL's hand the right way in 2001.

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  81. I'm going to have a party when Rikishi dies. With a cake and everything.

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  82. Sean O'Haire dying doesn't make him retroactively good.

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  83. How 'bout some Makin' a Difference Marble Cake with Sultan of Strawberry Frosting?

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  84. He legitimately could not work WWE-style.
    Had a ton of athleticism and a great look but couldn't learn, despite being in developmental.

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  85. A talented wrestler got ruined by one of the worst I've ever seen when the business desperately needed stars.

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  86. He also couldn't speak in front of an audience.

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  87. WWE style in 2003 was brutally bad. Outside of Vengeance and WM19 that year was unwatchable m

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  88. He was ruined by his personal problems, his inability to speak in front of a live crowd and the fact that he just sucked in WWE.

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  89. Says who? Proven by what? When did he get a chance? The god fucking awful Roddy Piper cut terrible promos for him fot Piper's heatless feud with Hogan.

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  90. Iron Sheik says my cake is good. It is the best. It has A to the Z for him.

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  91. They're unpredictable.

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  92. Dude, he sucked in the WWE.
    YouTube a Velocity match and he sucked in those too.

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  93. That's why they brought in Hot Rod and that's why he only ever did the stuff in pre-tapes.


    He struggled cutting promos in front of a live audience which is why his push didn't go further.

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  94. Uhhh that was just pathetic. Post WM 20 Smackdown was terrible desperation. Both guys were released soon after.

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  95. Stranger in the AlpsSeptember 9, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    Remember when they were touting Bull Buchanan as an athlete because he could leap to the top rope in one jump?


    That was Sean O'Haire. Atheleticism does not necessarily preclude "good wrestler".

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  96. Iron Shiek will make your cake HUMBLE.

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  97. Sorry Jared, I'm with the rest here. The dude just sucked in WWE and it wasn't just their fault. Plus his personal issues were bound to ruin him even if he got big.

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  98. I'm sensing Jared Bellow doesn't like Rikishi.

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  99. There is nothing. Ever. Ever. Ever. In Pro wrestling. That sucked as bad as Rikishi from heel turn to WWE release. Nothing.


    Lita in front of 20 Mexican jobbers does not suck that hard.

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  100. What personal problems? I read the newz every day then and there was zero report of that. There was a useless fat Samoan fuck programmed with him and a useless fat old Scottish fuck who was the "mouthpiece" for him.

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  101. Hot Rod was the single worst thing about WWE in 2003. Holy Jesus fuck was he bad. I mean he had absolutely NO reason to have a contract. Just pathetic sad drunken drug addict dragging his half dead morbidly obese carcass on stage.

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  102. By 2006 he was reduced to picking fights with women. And no I don't by the excuse his failed wrestling career drove him to it, he was just a piece of garbage.

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  103. He was arrested twice for assaulting a woman.

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  104. His career actually IMPROVED after appearing on Heroes of Wrestling. Mad respect for that.

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  105. In 2006, O'Haire was arrested for allegedly assaulting a woman at "Club Hypnotic" in June 2004,[1] but was found not guilty after the girl confessed that the allegations were not true. He was also involved in a fight in Hilton Head on March 30, 2007, in which he sustained fractures to his face and skull, including his orbital bone. As the result of the fight, the vision in his left eye was impaired. Although O'Haire claimed that he was going to the aid of a friend, witnesses asserted that O'Haire tried to instigate a fight with his alleged assailant, Juan Brantley. Brantley had filed a complaint with police on March 17, in which he stated that O'Haire had attempted to start a fight with him at another bar.[1]

    On September 9, 2009, O'Haire was arrested in Georgia for allegedly choking out his girlfriend.[30] He was charged with battery and criminal trespassing before being released on $4600 bail,[30] but the charges were later dropped and O'Haire was found not guilty. On November 23, 2011, O'Haire was again arrested in Georgia and charged with battery.[31] He was later released on $1850 bail.[31]

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  106. Or listen to him chat with Steve Corino!

    http://placetobenation.com/the-steve-corino-show-episode-11-scotty-riggs/

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  107. Wow way to be a misogynistic asshole.

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  108. He wasn't on Heroes of Wrestling

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  109. I'm confused.
    I thought Rikishi was the single worst thing about 2003 WWE

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  110. Fuck. That was Samu. My bad.

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  111. Fuck they both sucked. Goddamn 2003 was terrible.

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  112. I agree with 2003 being terrible

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  113. Rikishi was really terrible in his 2000 heel turn, 2001, and 2002 and Piper gets a one year award. Although WCW 1997 Piper also sucks.


    Come to think of it has Roddy Piper contributed anything positive to wrestling since the mid 80s?

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  114. Proud of it too. Fuck that useless whore.

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  115. The guy had B+ hair.

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  116. My fondest memory of this guy is how huge he was, and how he OWNED the Swanton. I know WCW had a thing for ripping off WWE guys, but if you ask me, it was more impressive to see Sean O'haire do the Bomb than Jeff.

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  117. Also fuck feminists, fuck jezebel, fuck people who feel sorry for the celebutwats whose nudes got leaked and fuck you john t cole

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  118. We got a rebel.

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  119. Uh huh. And Janay Palmer was asking for it as well.

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  120. So he had incidents after his WWE release with zero guilty pleas or convictions?

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  121. I always kinda sorta preferred Jindrak.

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  122. Oh for fucks sake

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  123. Devil's Advocate Sean O'Haire had an A+ mane.

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  124. She's still with him! Hurr durr victim blaming.


    It's clearly her fragile psychological complex as a woman that makes her stay with a horrible abuser, but women are much more intelligent, strong and independent than men. Hurr durr internet feminism.

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  125. Jindrak was terrible and had zero upside.

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  126. I remember watching him do it on Nitro and seeing Jeff do it on Raw and thinking the smaller guy should change his move because he got shown up.

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  127. He also got buried in developmental after the purchase for not shaking Taker's hand or some such shit.

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  128. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomerySeptember 9, 2014 at 9:32 PM

    To be fair, I never carry change on me these days anyway.

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  129. Or start a thread about him in the forums!

    rspwfaq.boards.net

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  130. Seems like the crazies have been coming out a lot lately.

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  131. RIP Sean O'Haire, a genetic freak and a big building block of what could have been WCW.

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  132. Is Jared Bellow having a mini-meltdown?

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  133. Obviously hates all women who aren't inflatable, judging by one of his posts below. On the bright side, at least that means he won't be breeding.

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  134. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 9, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    The Forum has everyone taking.

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  135. "Yep Mode" ABeyAnce1©September 9, 2014 at 10:00 PM

    He's anti establishment.

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  136. Apparently Chris Brown registered an account herr. Who knew?

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  137. Perhaps his life would have turned out better if he wasn't undermined by ridiculous political bullshit during his WWE tenure.

    But I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.

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  138. Rikishi-Sized, possibly

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  139. BTW Brock Lesnar got to look like a million bucks EVERY TIME he tossed Rikishi around the ring in 2002.


    Remind me again what Sean O'Haire's excuse for not looking good against Rikishi was?


    Face it, not even Benoit could make him look good in their match on Smackdown.

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  140. So.... Jared Bellows is the WCWinsertyearhere of Sean O'Haire? Because like TNA, O'Haire sucked a bigger cock than Lita.

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  141. Jesse Baker? Is that you in a disguise?

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  142. The topic is "RIP Sean O'Haire", not "Rip Sean O'Haire"

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  143. Adam "Colorado" CurrySeptember 9, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    By "crazies" you mean "jerkoffs", right?

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  144. RIP Sean O'Haire.

    But seriously, a "celebration of life"?
    Bill Maher is right, fuck these politically correct pansies.

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  145. Only a matter of time until it becomes immortalized in the meltdowns section of the forums.

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  146. "There is nothing. Ever. Ever. Ever. In Pro wrestling. That sucked as bad as Rikishi from heel turn to WWE release. Nothing."


    Great Khali wants to take you up on that bet. :P

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  147. WrestleMania 8 says hello. WrestleMania 12 also nods in your direction.

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  148. I'm chucking Chris Masters first full run in here. Did absolutely nothing for me. Just barely passable in the ring.

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  149. My favorite Rikishi memory is probably him hitting a splash from the top of a cage onto Val Venis. My favorite Rikishi match is the electric opener he had with Too Cool against ECK.

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  150. When they put Jindrak and O'Haire over Rey and Konnan on that Nitro out of nowhere it really made me sit up and take notice at both.

    That double toss over the top rope from the outside they'd always do to the cruisers ruled.

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  151. Even if that stuff MIGHT be true about Rikishi & Piper. You've done NOTHING to prove O'Haire could talk on a live microphone, or that he had ANY good matches in WWE. NOTHING.

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  152. Minor threadjack since you brought up TNA:

    http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/100-tna/38852-russo-says-spike-poor-partner-for-tna-spike-responds

    Don't think we've seen somebody get destroyed like that since Jim Cornette destroyed Eric Bischoff in 2010.

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  153. I will agree with Russo on this--NOBODY knows that TNA is on Spike tv. I've never seen a commercial or anything promoting it. Damn, wrestling fans go up to Kurt Angle and ask where he's been for 10 years. Heyman said the same about TNN and he's a god. Russo says it about Spike and he's viewed a joke. I don't get it sometimes. Spike, however, did help TNA financially, something they never tried or trustred with a sleazeball like Heyman.

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  154. That... might be the greatest thing I've ever read.

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  155. A + hair, C - political savvy.

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  156. Jesus fuck he was there like three weeks? What matches? What chance?

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  157. "What Vince Russo is saying is complete nonsense".
    That quote alone tells me that Spike TV knows more about how to run a wrestling company than Dixie Carter and Vince Russo.

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  158. I give you Kenzo Suziki. Or Sylvain Grenier. Or Orlando Jordan. Linda Miles. Mohammed Hassan. The Dicks. Gymini. The Bash Brothers. Damn 2004-5 sucked.

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  159. J and B. Not a bad coincidence...

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  160. I will say that Randy Orton is a complete douchebag too (borderline psycho from 2002-2007) but was protected by those in power. If O'Haire got the same treatment, it's possible his life would be radically different.

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  161. He was there over a span of months, look this stuff up. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know (deep down).

    Here's the Benoit match:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2veFm2NLKg

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  162. RIP, he was truly above average.

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  163. That really was a shame. His story burning out and a lot of people leaving around the time as well...That's about when I got bored of wrestling and I didn't check back in until I heard about the Summer of Punk and tuned in and saw DBry for the first time.

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  164. I don't see how that's a PC issue. Some funerals take that tack.

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  165. He was gone by at least Vengeance so I don't see how he had a run.


    I just watched that match, hadn't seen it before...aaaand....it was a perfectly fine five minute TV match. What was so bad about it? Surprise finish and a really good spot with that dumping bodyslam.

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  166. I'm against the PC police as much as the next guy, but this isn't about censorship, but about putting a more positive spin on an event that's usually a downer. I can go for that.

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  167. Why are we talking about Rikishi?

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  168. Adam "Colorado" CurrySeptember 10, 2014 at 12:23 AM

    Because certain people are asshats.

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  169. But wow did he ever improve.

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  170. Just got the news in the last hour or so.. Super bummed about this one.. Cetainly more so than the normal so-&-so.. Sean was a real DUDE!.. R.I.P...

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  171. Yes, I have also known people to have both a funeral and a celebration of life. The funeral is the one for family and very close friends, possibly with a religious element and involving the actual burial/sprinkling of the ashes. The celebration of life is a bigger event that more people attend, more secular and a look back on the person's life rather than ritual observance of their death.

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  172. I'm surprised the Devil's Advocate gimmick didn't go over, as they basically were Vince's personal ideology (pro-drug, pro-adultery, anti-religion, anti-tax, anti-government) normally when a character expounds his philosophy they do pretty well, even if they totally suck (see JBL).

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  173. What about the angle where Dawn Marie married Torrie’s
    father, killed him with sex then had a fight with her at the funeral over the
    coffin? That was pretty cool. Plus there was Team Angle.

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  174. He was okay.

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  175. Apparently he was working as a hair stylist... can just imagine him looking for work after wrestling and thinking 'wait, a minute. Sean O'Haire. Sean. O'Haire. O'Hair. Oh, hair! HAIR! Oh shit I got it - I'm gonna cut hair!' Awesome

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  176. I had really hoped his MMA career would go better, but he'd taken a few too many wrestling bumps by that point, and was just too easily KO'd.

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  177. Really? You couldn't find anything worse than him?

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  178. Really? You couldn't find anything worse about 2003 WWE than Rikishi?

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  179. I hated all of Piper's WCW stuff. Terrible. His matches with Hogan were like an episode of 3 Stooges.

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  180. As a former transcendental meditator, I understand what O'Haire tried to seek out of life. I don't agree with it, but years ago I was in a similar boat. Sometimes only One thing can fill up the hole in our hearts. Personally, as a wrestler - I liked the dude.

    As a wrestler, he was one that I thought would get over because he had the look and a good skill set.

    I'm going to go into a different direction with this post: people in wrestling that should of gotten over but didn't because they couldn't work or got politically manipulated.

    1. Ken Anderson -- seriously I never thought he'd actually make the big time for a short stint before imploding -- because usually Velocity wrestlers didn't get over -- but his first week -- he got over with the mic skills. They repackaged him as Ken Kennedy a few weeks later - which I didn't think was necessary. Sadly this dude messed things up and couldn't really work, but as a lower midcard substitute teacher gimmick - this guy could have gone somewhere.

    2. Michael V. K. Wallstreet, version 2: Prior to jumping to the WWF around 1990-91, Mike Rotunda turned heel and did the Michael Wallstreet character. Somebody liked something about the character and Rotunda came in as IRS - which was a pretty good Midcard heel gimmick. In 1995, Rotunda returned to WCW with the character before Bischoff changed his name to V. K. Wallstreet - get it? Well sadly rotunda was nothing more than Saturday night fodder and by late 1996 - he was just some dude with a nWo Midcard t-shirt and even then they said he couldn't be nWo and he wore anti-WCW t shirts. Hey WCW couldn't be bother to use Bret Hart right, so why have hope in a Midcard guy?

    3.

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  181. Exactly. There was way worse stuff than Rikishi. The thing I remember mostly about him in those days was lovable opening match job guy. Not exactly setting world on fire but not sucking and he was always doing the job than anyway.

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  182. I have never understood the WWE's protection of Orton at all costs. Is he some kind of great draw or something?

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  183. And gimmick. That was awesome.

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  184. I thought Riggs was ok as a worker but I gained a new appreciation for him after reading his shoot interview. I like that he wasn't delusional about who he was or what his career was like. He wasn't bitter or anything and seemed like he had a great time working and getting with lades and that's awesome.

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  185. In O'Haire's case - since he didn't know Christ - it is a funeral. Bill Maher is a Jewish/Catholic atheist -- meaning Maher was biologically Jewish, raised Catholic formally - so he used to claim in his comedy routine and he rejects all religions. But sadly Maher has sin in his camp and he could rather live in his sin that truly trust in the One that died for his sins and to protect his soul from eternal death.

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  186. Ken Kennedy should have never gotten a push. He is simply awful in the ring.

    The most over thing about him was that he did his own ring announcing. When the best part of your matches is the ring announcing, you suck.

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  187. Life Celebrations are true celebrations for blood bought believers - because we have been paid for by Jesus' blood and will be going to heaven to be with Jesus. Now that is truly a life celebration. Amen. Amen.

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  188. Some dickheads are trolling the comments on his obit page. Wow people

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  189. Teddy Hart - but when you're too maladjusted to be a pro wrestler, that's really saying something

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