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Evening Thread - Thursday Edition

Some items of interest available this evening:

WWE Network has NXT at 9:00 PM ET. Baron Corbin, the Lucha Dragons and Charlotte will all see action. Enzo Amore and Colin Cassady face Sylvester LeFort and Marcus Louis, and Sami Zayn will face Tyson Kidd in the main event. That will be followed by Superstars at 10:00. Zack Ryder will face Bo Dallas, and Kofi Kingston takes on Cesaro.

MLB playoffs continue with Game 5 of the NLCS, with the Giants up on the Cardinals 3-1 and looking to clinch a berth in the World Series. The pitching match will be Adam Wainwright and Madison Bumgarner.

NFL Thursday night action sees an AFC rivalry with the NY Jets taking on the Patriots. The Jets are 1-5, the Pats 4-2.

NHL action, NBA preseason, TV. It's a busy Thursday night and there is never a shortage of topics.

Also, the fine folks at Place to be Nation welcome Episode #20 of the Main Event with special guest CRZ! They talk about RAW, the upcoming Hell in a Cell PPV, and more. Give this a listen by clicking on the link below.

http://placetobenation.com/ptbns-main-event-episode-20-fun-and-games-with-crz/

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  1. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    First

    *sigh*

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  2. I never have heartburn and I shit like a champion. Spinach leaves, boys.

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  3. Gonna start some Pats. They should be able to blow out the Jets. Hopefully we'll get another butt fumble worthy play from the losers.

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  4. Does anybody own a Wii U? If so, which games would you recommend?

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  5. Mario Kart 8 and Mario U

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  6. Holy shit, if you need to remember why you hate Vince Russo watch some late 99 wcw. I can see his shitty fingerprints all over this show. Medusa just did a "shoot" while shilling Nitro Colone in a bikini and now Hogan and Sting are doing a fucking stupid "shoot" angle instead of a match.

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  7. Austin's podcast today was excellent, but othr people have already gone over that. So instead I'll pimp today's edition of Cornette's podcast , which has the editor of FSM talking about the wrestling magazine industry and the history of World of Sport wrestling. The actual interview starts about 30 minutes in for people who don't like Cornette doing the same Cornette rants he always does. His shows are always better when he has an interesting guest on though. The recent ones with JJ Dillon, Sean Wheelock and two historians of Montreal wrestling were excellent.

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  8. Brady just might drop a 50 burger tonight on the Jets.

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  9. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    I actually have fond memories of that show (Havoc '99). I'd just moved up here and didn't have any friends, and I was just really getting into WCW. So it was all new for me, plus it was fall time which I tend to prefer in terms of cooler weather.

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  10. So I don't have to rifle through other comments... can you elaborate on Stone Cold?

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  11. This would be a fine show if not for the Russo prints

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  12. He did a live commentary track to the X7 match and it's fucking amazing.

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  13. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:02 PM

    It was also the 1st time Scott Hall had been on TV regularly for a while, definitely since I'd started watching wrestling in general earlier in the year. So I was pumped to see him in a live aspect, so to speak.

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  14. He goes over his match with rock at X-7, breaking it down. Like a directors commentary.

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  15. Holy fuck... I need to do this right now.

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  16. ROFLOL so hogan just walks out in street clothes and lies down and sting pins him and then Hogan walks off...Vince Russo ladies and gentlemen. The man who destroyed two different wrestling companies!!!

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  17. Yeah I've rewatched the match twice now with his commentary in one ear, it's tremendous.

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  18. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    In case you've never seen the show, it gets better in terms of "what the fuck"ness

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  19. Stone Cold is seriously just plain money. I would have never thought that a guy that got dropped on his head for a decade would be so smart and savvy. His podcast is THE best wrestling podcast and one of the best podcasts period. Surprised no-one thought to do that before.

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  20. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 16, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    Hey! I didn't add that last part!! But it's cool, because placetobenation.com is awesome.


    *thumbs up*

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  21. That's the way to do it... gonna get the podcast going on my phone and get the network going on the TV later.

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  22. I have never seen this show, or two after it

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  23. This week's Review-A-Wai is good too (even though Wai's not there this week). Starrcade 95!

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  24. I bet you Vince McMahon saw Halloween Havoc 99 and knew right away the war was over.

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  25. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    Mayhem was an OK show, Starrcade not so much

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  26. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    But I bet he didn't see all of it. His feed cut out at 10 PM on the dot like everyone else.

    I bet he helped pop the Nitro rating the next night b/c he wanted to see how the show ended, too.

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  27. I thought the one with the DDP vs Goldberg match from 98 was the one that went long?

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  28. Vince: "Halloween... Havoc?"

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  29. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:07 PM

    Yeah, I FUCKED UP, I FUCKED UP

    I read it as '98 for some reason

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  30. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    It's not Vince's fault that hadn't yet learned of Halloween

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  31. I REMEMBER HALLOWEEN, OH OH!

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  32. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Not sure if anyone saw this since I posted it at the end of the day in the Daily Update, but JBL posted something about the rumored fight b/w Cole and Roberts, and he actually used "Maggle"

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  33. From his account or CrankyVince as JBL as Vince?

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  34. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    as JBL

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  35. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    http://411mania.com/wrestling/jbl-addresses-rumors-of-justin-robertsmichael-cole-argument/

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  36. Good luck tonight, Bayless. Go easy on us. We're just trying to do our job.

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  37. For the most part. It had been in a bit of a slump the past few weeks cos he didn't have any interesting guests on, and he did a phone Q&A, which is always death (HEY STONE COLD, IT'S SO AMAZING TO TALK 2 U HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN YOU GOT DROPED ON UR HED?).

    But it's definitely the best show done by a wrestler.

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  38. You can tell I'm a wrestling fan, because I haven't listened to this one yet, and immediately am left wanting a Rock/Austin WM19 commentary.


    My favorite of their matches, and one of my favorites of all time. Completely character driven and tells an amazing story.

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  39. He's been using maggle for ages on twitter.

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  40. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Oh, I didn't know

    (My ass better call somebody)

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  41. His improv stuff is amazing. He's been on Carolla's podcast a few times and did on the spot PSAs for trivial things like flight procedures, and not littering. Fucking side splitting funny stuff.

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  42. Super Mario 3D World and Wii Party U are also solid.

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  43. Unfortunately.

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  44. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:13 PM

    Who doesn't like The Jets?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jets_%28band%29

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  45. Pats have no Ridley and Mayo and its been pouring out all day here. Jets have a chance.

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  46. Fuck. I missed the announcement of Stalock starting in net tonight for the Sharks. That's some wasted points...

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  47. My team has been sucking so far.

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  48. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Just ran to the store and got fucking soaked. Didn't even look like rain outside.

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  49. oh god the booking of goldberg vs sid was atrocious. I see wcw going out of business while I watch havoc 99

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  50. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    *sigh*

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  51. You can run on the Pats. Ivory should have a solid game.

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  52. I only have Vereen and Edelman. And NE's DEF. I think I'm going start both of them. Vereen will get more touches now that Ridley is out, even if Vereen isn't going a workhorse.

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  53. If you believe that just until next week.

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  54. Stop giving them hope.

    Pats by 14 at least.

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  55. I'm still keeping Lefell on the bench. Still iffy about him.

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  56. At least 30.

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  57. Are you also thinking about late 1999 wcw booking?

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  58. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    LOL

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  59. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 16, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    Real spinach is pretty good. The frozen shit tastes like seaweed though.

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  60. Even after that pussy ass match Sid got a better standing ovation than HHH did in that first Brock match

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  61. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    Was that the 1st blood match? Where he kept yelling "let it bleed!"

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  62. That's nice of you to say but they don't. I don't think it'll be 45-3, but the Jets are close to terrible.

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  63. 30 is crazy talk. Pats aren't good enough this season to go 30. Yet.

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  64. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 16, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    I wish Cena would have tapped too so we got that chant again.

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  65. Holy fuck 1999 Kimberly Page in titty popping lingere. I don't usually bug out for pg-13 sex appeal stuff but holy shit

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  66. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 16, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    Halloween Havoc 91! Chamber of Horrors just starting!

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  67. She was unbelievably hot back then. Much hotter than Sable. The entire Nitro Strippers were hotter than any WWE girl.

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  68. No its the rip off of Hart vs Austin, where Sid is already busted open before the match and he tries to gallantly fight goldberg off for like 5 minutes and the ref calls the match

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  69. Ummm...yeah I think you might be right. I'm pretty impressed

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  70. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    Might be the same match but not a 1st blood. Definitely remember him yelling "LET IT BLEED!" at some point for something



    But yeah, it was a face turn for him

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  71. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 16, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    Did Russo ever have a single original idea? Seems like everything he did post-WWF was a ripoff of something from the WWF.

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  72. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    I like when her booby came out in The 40 Year-Old Virgin

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  73. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 16, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    Scott Hall doing his Razor schtick before he actually Razor is weird.

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  74. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Thanks

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  75. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 16, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    I loved Fyre, but looking back she wasn't that hot at all.

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  76. wow good question. I guess the millionaires club vs new blood angle he ran and then ripped off in tna was a new idea, but thats the only thing I can think of

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  77. And that's not even counting Torrie Wilson, and possibly Stacy as she might be a wrestler/manager at this point.

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  78. What? I thought we were naming the TMNT weapons...

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  79. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    Not all of them

    AC Jazz for example

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  80. Why would the Jets ever fire Rex Ryan? There isn't a coach alive they will draw more than him.

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  81. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 16, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    Imagine how much of a bigger star she could have been if she worked for Vince.

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  82. Party Hard... indeed.

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  83. I have no idea what I just watched on CBS, but the song was Andrew WK's PARTY HARD!

    I grew to love that song. It's so fun for no reason.

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  84. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 16, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    I swear even that was stolen from somewhere else.

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  85. Obviously hindsight is 20-20 but watching this russo booked wcw shit for the first again after all these years is just soooooooooo funny. Like seriouly every awful thing anyone has said about his booking really ISNT hyberole.

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  86. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    Whisper/Mrs. HBK is legit beautiful

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  87. That's some good synergy going on there. WWE hypes Austin's podcast, and Austin does commentary for a match you can see on the Network. I am so checking this out after work tonight.

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  88. If Brady could throw for about 700 yards and 11 touchdowns tonight that would be great.

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  89. I actually liked late 99 WCW

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  90. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 16, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    She looks great now, but I didn't like her back then.

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  91. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Oh, I thought you were putting me out of your all's misery

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  92. Is that the one where she brings out the cologne and Bobby Heenan says it smells like crap?

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  93. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 16, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Yuck why?

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  94. Not with the wet field I don't think.

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  95. I like Rex, but the Jets have been terrible at developing talent under his tenure as coach, especially on offense. I think Rex is the perfect coach for veteran teams/players that developed elsewhere and that's why he had success his first two years. But once those veterans signed elsewhere or retired and were replaced by younger players, they've gone backwards.

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  96. Its pouring up here and has been all day. But then again, Ridley is out for the year and the other backs aren't great so they will throw a lot is my guess.

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  97. Eh, they were strippers for teens... we all have fond memories.

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  98. She was my favorite.

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  99. cause of the wackiness. Like Sting turning heel and completely no-selling his own heel turn

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  100. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 16, 2014 at 6:26 PM

    In the days of internet porn it feels like the stone age.

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  101. Not as funny as the Goldberg heel turn for like 2 minutes.

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  102. It's a fantastic song. Chemically orchestrated to be so.

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  103. I listened to a Wrestling Observer Live a few weeks ago from when Dave had Russo as a guest in December of 99 and both Dave and the callers were mostly complementary of Russo's writing.

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  104. I wish I had known they were playing tonight, I would have put Shane Vereen in.

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  105. Hey what was the angle with Luger and Bret at Halloween Havoc 99? I just saw the match and Bret jobbed to him in like 6 mintues by tapping clean to a half crab. That seemed really weird but I wasn't really following the product and can't remember what that was all about. I remember those two feuding over the us title but not Bret just tapping like that.

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  106. I want the Jets to keep Rex and make him hire his brother Rob this off-season.

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  107. I mean, yeah, if you want to win then hire a real coach. Strictly from an entertainment standpoint he's the best

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  108. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 16, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    I guess that's why I didn't like it. I just so confused. The rise of HHH in the WWF and the Russo era in WCW really made me not like that era as a sixth grader.

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  109. I barely remember that whole timeframe of WCW, but I do remember the Sting turn and he totally mailed in it.

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  110. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:28 PM

    HEY DEVIN

    Did it weird you out that Elvin always called Cliff and Claire "dad" and "mom" even though his own folks were still alive?

    It weirded me out

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  111. then just put the thing on a season long hard knocks. This isn't that hard.

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  112. The rock hard stone age... yes.

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  113. Gotcha. In that case, yeah I agree.

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  114. Kim was definitely my favorite. Probably Chae next, which is remarkable considering I don't like Asian girls.

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  115. One of my friends as a kid called my mom "mom" despite having living parents... still calls her that actually.

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  116. I wonder if coloured turf will ever become a thing in the NFL? Tampa Bay & Jacksonville both play on grass so it'll probably take longer than it otherwise would have if it does.

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  117. I saw it as like a movie so terrible you could laugh at it. Me and my brother loved 99 WCW.

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  118. WTF?! Already!?!

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  119. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    Was your mom a better mom to him than his own mom? B/c I don't think that's what was going on with Elvin

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  120. Maybe its because he did it so much but having Hogan come out in street clothes on a ppv and lay down in the middle of the ring for Sting is TERRIBLE. And also his "shooting" Medusa stuff. And the poorly constructed Sid vs Goldberg match. It's just seeing that as soon as he gets there, and knowing basically how bad the show got after that is weird.

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  121. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:29 PM

    That's what she said

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  122. So glad I started Vereen.

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  123. And vereen already has 10 fantasy points... I bet this ends up costing me a win this week. FUCK!

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  124. Not sure why he jobbed that way but he was getting the world title so I guess this was the Russo way of getting it off of him

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  125. And yet there are people seriously saying he should be brought back to WWE today. That's one of the most confusing things I see on here.

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  126. I tried to and was too late to put him in. FUCK!

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  127. Heh, you really wish that now.

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  128. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 16, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    Ohhhhhhhhhh.....enchiladas!


    *unzips pants*

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  129. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    I like when he was Webster's uncle

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  130. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 16, 2014 at 6:30 PM

    I'd make fun but I'm watching Halloween Havoc 91 which is fucking terrible as well.

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  131. http://i.imgur.com/PRNdnHT.gif

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  132. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    You know what the world needs more of?

    Robert Guillaum

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  133. Yes, the random shoots for no reason were annoying. The worst was Russo sitting down and talking about John Rocker. First of all, he was a heel and secondly, it made no sense to being with.

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  134. ...that's not what you are supposed to do with them.

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  135. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    That's his O face

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  136. I didn't start him for my 3rd league. Oh well.

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  137. New Android commercial.

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  138. ...tell me more...

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  139. *sigh* Jets might as well tank the season and draft Winston. It seems like a perfect fit.

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  140. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    Kevin Nash went to eat a little Korean

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  141. It was terrible from the beginning. I think people were just happy they were trying something different.

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  142. I only watched early 90s WCW when I happened to run across it on tv. It was so meh. Once Flair bounced there was no reason to watch

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  143. I was there for that match! (It's why I'm reaaaaally hoping the Austin at Mania rumors aren't true, I can't say I saw his last match if that happens!)

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  144. The flip side of that is calling your parents by their first name when you realize they're kind of shit.

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  145. I'm a Jets fan and can see this coming a mile away.

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  146. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 16, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    Fans seem hot for Sting. Trying to watch all the Havocs before Halloween.

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  147. I know one of the funniest things I have EVER seen on wrestling is Bret wearing the steel plate against Goldberg.

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  148. They should tank. They should not draft Winston.

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  149. Not a Hall of Famer.

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  150. Kevin is smarter than that, honestly. He's just going to be hungry again in an hour.

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  151. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    I've known people like that

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  152. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 16, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    I'm exhausted by that conversation lol.

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  153. Jets defenders were so far away from Vereen they would have .... I don't know something about sending him a postcard would have gotten there sooner.

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  154. Wanted to root for a team more painful than the Browns?

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  155. I completely agree. Russo seriously shouldn't be let near a high school back yard wrestling club much less a promotion thats on tv.

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  156. Kind of funny that Nash seems to allude to the "fact" that he was with most of the girls in WCW (Chae, Torrie, Madusa, etc)... and the fact that he introduced Whisper to Shawn Michaels...


    ESKIMO BROTHERS!

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  157. me too. i just want no part of winston. i'd rather them draft and develop o-lineman and playmakers before drafting a QB, especially winston.

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  158. Yeah I'd definitely have to use that qualifier, there's too many podcasts out there, Rogan, Burr and Dan Carlin all do stuff I'd put over Stone Cold for general entertainment.


    For wrestling though, for sure Austin's is the best.

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  159. But they should hire Rob Ryan as DC.

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  160. Why doesn't a team like the Jags or Rams bring in Tebow? Sure he isn't an ideal NFL QB, but at least he'd sell tickets and put butts in seats. It's not like the Jags or Rams are actually going to make the playoffs anyways and I'm sure the Jaguards would LOVE the media attention.

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  161. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 16, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    Homemade....hot....chicken.....cheesy.....awesome.

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  162. His fans are too obnoxious for anyone in the NFL to want to deal with.

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  163. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 16, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    It is if they're fucking good.

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  164. Been a Jets fan since I was really young.

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  165. Austin Davis has actually been pretty solid for the Rams. And the Jags just drafted their QB of the future, so...

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  166. The Rams are trying to be a legitimate NFL team, they just fail at it.


    I have no idea why the Jags didn't just pick him and try to tank

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  167. How many people in popular culture can you think of that were worse for their genre at worse at what they did than Vince Russo?

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  168. I'm assuming he had a rough childhood and desperately needed a mother and father figure. It was weirder that Sandra and Elvin were two doctors that couldn't support themselves.

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  169. I'm sorry. I root for the Jets since I get them every week but....man

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  170. Jags would have been a perfect fit. Tebow is a Florida legend. Bucs too, while we're at it. I'm pissed he's not even in Madden to pick up and mold.

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  171. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    Wanda Sykes?

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  172. Stranger in the AlpsOctober 16, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    Vanilla Ice.

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  173. Biff Kensington IIIOctober 16, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    Holy BALLS, I'd totally forgotten about the Ric Flair interview segment where he chewed out Carlito for having no heart. That interview was fucking BRILLIANT, and is everything the business lacks now.

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  174. Tony Romo, Ryan Seacrest, Maggle Cole, All the guys from Nickleback


    We live in a fail upward society, there's a million picks.

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  175. I have NE's DEF, so Jets this close to end zone is troublesome.

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  176. Nothing was more awesome than a motivated Bret. He actually had to get approval from Hulk to run that angle. That explains a lot.

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  177. Adam "Colorado" CurryOctober 16, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    Reagan was worse, but yeah.

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  178. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 16, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    That's actually not uncommon when you're starting out. Docs have to pay their dues, so to speak.



    And about Elvin's folks: we saw his folks. They were loving. Maybe Cos was writing some high level shit we didn't pick up on

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  179. Don't worry, they'll just Jet it up soon.

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  180. Sting was always over. He just never did much that was interesting.

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  181. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 16, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    The collection of writers in the WWE today.

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  182. Worse President, but not nearly as embarrassing.

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  183. REAGAN WAS A GENIUS!

    https://screen.yahoo.com/president-reagan-mastermind-000000075.html

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