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Most bizarre WWE factoid ever?

Hey Scott,

Try this one on: Ambrose/Rollins from Sunday is the third WWE PPV singles main event ever where both wrestlers were in their 20s.

The first two? Taker/Taker and Taker/Yoko, both 1994.

It's a useless fact, but goddamn is that a dumbfounder.

Was Undertaker seriously that young in 94?  Damn.  

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  1. Considering he was only 4 years into his WWF tenure at that point, that makes a lot of sense.

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  2. There has to be a joke in there somewhere about bending over backwards, and trying to find something for her to do....

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  3. Broadcast Journalist Sunny.

    ...

    I'll be back in two minutes.

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  4. *Lights cigarette.*

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  5. So it has been 20 years since a 20 something vs. 20 something main event. The youth movement is running wild!

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  6. Taker was 28, 29 in October, Brian Lee was 27, (turned 28 in November, and he was done by then), and Yoko was 27, 28 in October.

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  7. your disqus handle is super relevant right now.

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  8. "Tamara... it's Gar-den... Madison Square Gar-den... try again."

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  9. I do remember this. I read about her time in Smokey Mountain in the old PWIs and how hot she was, then she popped up as this events host and I was like, is this the plan for her??

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  10. I would have thought for sure that one of the Rock/HHH main events, or Rock/Brock would have qualified. Oh well.

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  11. Summer Slam 2007 Cena vs Orton is damn close. ;) Same with Rock vs Brock from Summer Slam 2002.

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  12. I could have sworn that cena/Lesnar main evented a ppv in 2003 for the title. At backlash 2003, it was rock/goldberg in the last match with the wwe title match in the mid card.

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  13. Extant1979 Most Must-See BoDerOctober 28, 2014 at 7:33 AM

    I'm sure she was willing to bend over backwards (or forwards) for WWF to give her something to do.


    Hey-o!

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  14. Rock was born in 72 and hhh in 69 so their 2000 matches would be close

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  15. Yep, Cena was nowhere near ready to main event back then. It was basically billed as a squash for Brock, Cena was just barely relevant at the time (Feels strange to write)

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  16. Its funny. Undertaker to me has never been younger than 35.

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  17. Looks like Rock/Brock at SS2002 JUST missed. Rock's birthday is in May, he just turned 30.

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  18. For curiosity because I honestly don't know, what ppv 1on1 main event has the 2 oldest wrestlers in combined ages?

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  19. oh that HAS to belong to WCW. Some combo of Hogan/Flair/Savage/Piper.

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  20. This makes me wonder what main event features the two oldest wrestlers in company history, at least PPV-wise. Taker vs. Hogan?

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  21. Jinx. Don't talk or I get to sock you in the arm.

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  22. That Sting/Hogan match in TNA was the main event wasn't it? That would be a combined age of about 110.

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  23. For WWE, actual last-match main events, maybe Lawler vs Piper at KOTR 94?

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  24. That's gotta be it. Totally forgot about that hot mess.

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  25. Maybe Taker-Shawn?

    I was going to say Flair-Hogan, but that was WCW (or maybe Australia).

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  26. Yeah they were both up there at that point. Very possible.

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  27. I might go with McMahon-Taker Buried Alive from 99.

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  28. Sting/Hogan from BFG 2011 went on before Roode/Angle.

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  29. It's hard to imagine Undertaker EVER being in his 20s.

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  30. Piper was 40 and Lawler was 45 or so. Taker and Shawn were older in 2010.

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  31. Worst PPV main event in the history of rasslins.

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  32. Ah okay. I wonder if Roode and Angle were able to follow it!

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  33. To make your case even stronger, it was actually in 2003. :)

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  34. Shows how much I know. This is why I don't gamble.

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  35. Thanks - forgot how they shoehorned Kane in there so UT could return as Taker: Texas Ranger.

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  36. TNA doesn't count. (because I say so lulz)

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  37. Maybe Hogan vs HBK in 2005? 52 + 40 = 92.

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  38. And the sad thing is, it had a strong build, and both guys COULD have come up with a good psychology based match. But yep, absolutely horrible...

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  39. Hogan vs Shawn from Summerslam 2005?

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  40. Does the Legends of Wrestling PPV count?

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  41. Getting into "what constitutes the main event" territory now though!

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  42. They all looked older back then. ;-) Flair with 40 looked older than HBK with 50. ;)

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  43. That sounds like a winner. That was Hogan's last (and thus oldest) proper main event, and there hasn't been anyone older.

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  44. Didn't Lesnar face Edge after the won the Title from the Rock in 2002? Or was it a UK PPV?

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  45. Hogan was born in 1953.
    McMahon was born in 1945.

    Shawn and Undertaker were both born in 1965.



    I think a combo of those guys would constitute the oldest WWE main event ever.

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  46. It was! But perhaps for no other reason than to disqualify it from this category, the match was actually Edge vs Brock Lesnar AND Paul Heyman in a handicap match

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  47. I was going to say Flair/Vince from "Royal Rumble, 2002", but that wasn't a main event. Same with Flair/Shawn at "WrestleMania XXIV".

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  48. I'm pretty sure that the movie "Jack" was actually based on Ric Flair.

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  49. Damn, Shawn's been retired so long I didn't realize he was pushing 50 already.

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  50. It's crazy that once they ended the Gladiator Faarooq character and broke up the Gunns, she basically did nothing but sell T-shirts and do Raw Magazine photo shoots until being put with the LOD. That's almost a year and a half of no real role in the company. And for a lot of that time Sable was doing the same thing, since Mero was on the shelf for most of '97.


    Weird that they couldn't figure out a better way to use either of them (although I'm sure they were happy with the shirt sales and the ratings when they would do the modeling segments.)

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  51. That outfit is way too damn conservative

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  52. I never understood that match, because they were pushing the "new generation" everywhere and this main event looked more vintage than WCW with Hogan vs Flair...(same with backlund and his push).

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  53. I'd go with Flair/Hogan at Uncensored 1999. Flair was 50 and Hogan was 45.

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  54. (Young) Age In a Cage!

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  55. "even in SMW as a teenager you could see the star power she had"

    And more importantly, a great rack and a fantastic can.

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  56. This was the weird time of WWF talking heads. Stephanie Wiand, Dok Hendrik, and the infamous Charlie Minn. I never understood why they had to change announcers names, it's not they were going to sell merchandise if they bolted to WCW.

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  57. Sadly, that went on before Goldberg/Triple H. Hell of a PPV line-up right there...

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  58. I thought Jon Good was older than that, he started really young then

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  59. Now she's doing nude Skype shows for 20 bucks.


    :(

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  60. Hogan/Piper, Havoc 1997?


    Nope, 44 + 43 = 87.

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  61. She was never a teenager in SMW.

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  62. Piper would have been 41 then, so probably not.

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  63. Tag main, so no.


    Well, it became a tag main at least.

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  64. Considering he started in the mid 80's out in Southwestern and Mid-South (as a jobbing jobber)... 50's not that bad for him.

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  65. Man, four years into his tenure, Taker had already had a super heel title run vs. Hogan, went through god awful feuds with Kamala and Giant Gonzalez, was "killed" by Yokozuna and 12 other heels and had an angle where he fought his clone.


    And this gimmick STILL has life 20 years down the line. Bravo, Mark. Bravo.

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  66. It's heartbreaking what a fuck up she is. :(

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  67. Did WCW ever have a PPV main event in which both competitors were in their 20s?

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  68. 52 and 40, respectively. I'd be surprised if this isn't it.

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  69. Mr. Backlund owned this thing

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  70. Wasn't that also when she reffed midget matches?

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  71. Betcha can talk her down to $7

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  72. Probably. HBK was 40, Hogan was 52.

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  73. Did they ever had main eventers in their 20s? I think there was only Luger, Sting and the Giant...

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  74. Taker's birthday is in March, so he was 29 at the time.

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  75. Luger turned 30 in June 1988, Sting in March 1989. Giant debuted at the age of 23, so definitely him.

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  76. Huh, huh, you said "bend over:"...

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  77. Fun fact: Magnum TA is younger than both of them. I would have not guessed that.

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  78. TBF, WWF gave her the former...

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  79. Though strangely, that squash feud is what got Cena over as an upper-mid carder. He improbably got over doing the goofy rap gimmick and then got fed to Brock before WrestleMania, and the rapping vignettes he did in the weeks that followed before his return transitioned him from Eminem wannabe to somebody to be taken more seriously, and the fans bought it.

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  80. Same thing with Hogan. Hogan has always been 40+ years old in my mind. It's the hair.

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  81. It did seem odd that she was pushed as such a big deal and then suddenly nothing...maybe the Shawn affair, Bret rumors and drug problem held her back?

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  82. Was putting her with Bret ever really considered? I know there were rumours in WWF Magazine about it and she made comments about it on-air. It seemed like an odd pairing.

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  83. David Arquette was in his 20s

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  84. TheRealCitizenSnipsOctober 28, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    But what about Jay Reso?

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  85. It's not that weird to me, really. Age means very little in wrestling. Internet fans have overblown it for years. Bret did his best work in his late 30s. Flair did much of his best work in his 40s, and so did Shawn and Taker. Most good wrestlers don't hit their peak until well into their 30s.

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  86. Nope. Debuted in 1993 when she was 20.

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  87. I still think she's overrated. Yes she was attractive but her acting was terrible and she couldn't give believable promos.

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  88. Not odd to bret lol

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  89. Kevin Dunn is why

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  90. But, as Cornette noted, she loved the business, understood the business, was a good heel... And they pushed Sable instead.

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  91. Drugs were a big problem. And she was trouble hooking up with main eventers

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  92. Sable drew money

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  93. Real WCW fans don't talk about him.

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  94. He always talked about procuring the chickenwing. Is that really the correct usage of procure? Or was misusing big words part of the gimmick that went over my head?

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  95. Stop being a masochist

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  96. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryOctober 28, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    I know theres sort of a level of veteran you have to get to to be in a main event position, but that's pretty stunning nonetheless.

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  97. So what's the oldest PPV main event? Hogan/Piper in WCW? Hogan/Flair?

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  98. I think most of it was that the Sunny character didn't fit her. Even back then, she just didn't come across as the happy girl. I found her dirty slut mic work in WCW was more fitting. Tammy's a natural cunt like Cornette says.

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  99. Once the bandanna comes off, it's the phenomenon known as "Insta-Old."

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  100. Fabulous Moolah could have drawn the same amount of money in her 70s had they given her the same push.

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  101. Sunny did as well back when the WWF started its Internet launch. She wasn't as big as Sable, though, because she peaked at the end of the Dark Ages period.

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  102. I totally forgot that she was paired with gladiator Faarooq.



    What a hot little bitch she was.

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  103. It's close. If he means securing it then I'll give him that one.

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  104. I think it was just Sunny trying to shoot her own angle back in the days when wrestling didn't use to be micromanaged.

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  105. Damn that's good.

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  106. As a child of the 80s, Hogan always seemed old to me, but now when I go back and watch Hogan's old stuff and even his nWo stuff I always think how young he looks compared to today.

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  107. The Rock, HHH and Lesnar are all superhuman in terms of how good they got while so young.

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  108. She could, but as a heel. Her babyface stuff was meh.

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  109. Rockin' Todd ParkerOctober 28, 2014 at 3:40 PM

    I remember in '97 or so when Entertainment Weekly ran a coverstory on wrestling. They put Undertaker's age down as 37. I still can't find out if they got it wrong or if Taker is cheating a bit on telling people his real age.

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  110. Funny enough...I think Hogan looks his "youngest" as part of the NWO. Seems like it revitalized him.

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  111. ha! great question. this too: i wonder what the median age is of ALL PPV main events by wwe... seriously i wana know

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  112. Like professional male softball players.. who peak in their late 30's!

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  113. What's bizarre about this? To headline a WWE PPV, you should be one of the very best sports entertainers in the business. It takes many years to hone your craft to that level.

    The fact that Ambrose and Rollins headlined a WWE PPV at this stage of their career shows how desperate they've become. It's no coincidence that the only other time this happened was 1994.

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  114. By combined age, it would be a World War 3 show.

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  115. Wikipedia has his birthday listed as 1965, and I think when he won his first world title in 1991 he was the youngest WWF/E champion ever (at that point).

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  116. The Ghost of Faffner HallOctober 29, 2014 at 2:08 AM

    I remember when she eventually debuted with Skip, the Apter mags claimed she was using the talking head gig in order to scout Skip's future opponents. You gotta give them some credit for that one.

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  117. this is your idea of "conservative", not hers!

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