Skip to main content

Orton/Brock


I've emailed you before about the possibilities of Brock/Orton since it NEVER happened, but with Survivor Series in St Louis (Orton's hometown) and the apparent face turn looming as Rollins is taking his spot in the authority (and curb stomping him on raw), are we possibly building to the Class of 02 dream match?   They'd obviously have to pay Brock for another show, but that's a huge main event.  You can have Authority vs. Team Cena/Ambrose in a SS match on the undercard.  Or are we just gonna go Cena overcoming the odds to build to Brock/Cena 4?


​Hey, I was advocating Orton as the next challenger after Summerslam, but everyone on the blog was like "Bleh, Blandy Boreton, yawn"  NOW WHO'S THE SMART ONE?!  

But yeah, they're already planning on Cena/Brock at the Rumble according to Meltzer, so don't get your hopes up.  ​

Comments

  1. Daily reminder that a heel class of 2002 stable with Cena. Brock. Orton, and Batista would probably light the business on fire again. Especially considering there a bunch of young guns that have enough credibility to oppose them now.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Now that's a good idea. It might even make Orton a slight bit interesting.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Yes, but you see, none of those young guys get put in positions to move up the ladder, so none of them draw and if none of them draw, why put them in positions to move up the ladder? Perfect logic and every reason you need to just ride Cena until his limbs fall off.

    ReplyDelete
  4. Class of 02 dream match? Brock vs Orton? Who's dream is this?

    ReplyDelete
  5. I could somewhat get behind Orton VS Brock at least, although I really have little to no interest in another face Orton run, pushing all the other faces down even farther on the card so they really don't get pushed (bad enough Cena nearly always gets placed higher even when he's not the champ and/or is losing matches, like when Ambrose beat him and by virtue of losing a match, he got a #1 contenders main event). I would have been more behind this in the brand split era, but now if Orton turns, Cena and Orton as the top faces will be the focus of everything.


    All that said, spare me from Cena/Brock 4. The match would likely be good, but sooner or later they won't be able to resist putting Cena over and blowing the entire streak ending/worst loss of Cena's career by giving fucking John Cena, who needs it the least in the history of this company, the rub.

    ReplyDelete
  6. Lol Blandy Boreton. That's up there with Joey joe joe junior shabadoo

    ReplyDelete
  7. Not sure about that though. Who has the credibility to oppose any of those guys? Bryan who is out indefinitely and that's it. Reigns could be as we move along. They're trying with Ambrose, but he's not at that level yet. That's about it. I like the idea although it might be putting too many top guys in one heel stable, but WWE has done such an awful job building most guys to be on the top level. They do a good job building them to be upper mid carders, but it's very rare they allow them to truly look like they're on the level of a top guy like Cena. Punk and Bryan are the only two springing to mind anytime recently.

    ReplyDelete
  8. Cena/Lesnar 4. This time, it's for money.

    ReplyDelete
  9. I thought most liked a potential Orton/Lesnar match. I do, I'd watch it. It's fairly fresh and Orton's the right character to face Brock.

    ReplyDelete
  10. 02 stable vs Bryan and The Shield.

    ReplyDelete
  11. I think that just having the guys face that heel stable would instantly get them to the next level. As long as you book it right. Hogan and later Macho Man turning heel in WCW really helped DDP get to that next tier.

    ReplyDelete
  12. Paul Heyman and Sable vs John Cena Sr and Nikki Bella is a more interesting match than Cena vs Brock 4

    ReplyDelete
  13. I'd prefer a face Lesnar vs a heel Orton. Lesnar as a bad ass who just doesn't want to hear anymore of Orton's shit would be great stuff.

    ReplyDelete
  14. My 02 dream match is Brock vs Rico.

    ReplyDelete
  15. Brock had some great trapezoids when he debuted. Just mind blowing stuff for a 17 year old kid like myself to be watching at the time. Impressive stuff.

    ReplyDelete
  16. Rico = very underrated

    ReplyDelete
  17. Ambrose, Reigns, and just put the kibosh on the Rhodes' heel turn and there's your face team

    ReplyDelete
  18. ANYBODY. Fucking Xavier Woods vs. Brock at Survivor Series. I dont care


    I was 100% excited for and pumped that Brock won the belt at SummerSlam, but FUCK, one title defense for the rest of 2014!? Ridiculous.

    ReplyDelete
  19. I saw that match. In 2002

    ReplyDelete
  20. Bring back Shelton Benjamin and have him face Brock. Minnesota Stretching Crew collides!

    ReplyDelete
  21. I actually non ironically love Rico. Nicest dude in wrestling.

    ReplyDelete
  22. What's sad is there's 2 months of TV after Survivor Series that could find a way to build to Cena-Brock, yet we all have so little faith in current creative/WWE business practices that we can't imagine them trying to build 2 big Brock matches between now and January.

    ReplyDelete
  23. Somebody call his momma!

    ReplyDelete
  24. Biff Kensington IIIOctober 21, 2014 at 8:10 PM

    I might be in the minority on this, but I really don't have high hopes for Orton/Lesnar if Cena/Lesnar IV is already in stone for the Rumble, and Reigns/Lesnar ostensibly after that. Orton/Lesnar is a fresh match, but the two programs to come are so unappetizing that it's almost off-putting.

    ReplyDelete
  25. Orton as a lone wolf typee character is perfect for him. The storyline is perfect ... He was champ but the authority still brought in Batista, who cost him his title and he never got his rematch. Rollins shows up and now he goes from champ to glorified bobdyguard. He could get real hot again

    ReplyDelete
  26. Biff Kensington IIIOctober 21, 2014 at 8:17 PM

    That's kind of the issue with me; we've seen that before on several occasions. It's what he should be doing... in the midcard. Clogging up the top of the card quashes the upward momentum for fresh faces who could (or in some cases should) be elevated right now.

    ReplyDelete
  27. I remember when everyone was craving for a heel turn from Orton. That didn't work out too well (not totally his fault). But I'm still not sure why folks are excited about his apparent face turn--his last run as a face was long, dull, and meaningless.

    ReplyDelete
  28. That's the worst name I've ever heard.

    ReplyDelete
  29. No kidding? 5 years ago? I wasn't watching 5 years ago so its new to me. I'm sure its new to alot of people. So yeah I think its going to be a good show but that's just me.

    ReplyDelete
  30. Along with his past year as a heel which as also been long, dull and meaningless.

    ReplyDelete
  31. Its hard to make a case to pay $10 to pay for the show? Really? I dunno man, I'm not a hardcore fan but I enjoy it enough to want to see those matches. Plus I could watch Cena vs Orton all day. Its like Rock and Austin. Or HHH. Again that's just me, you do what you want.

    ReplyDelete
  32. Someone makes an interent meme with Randy Orton and suddenly he is great again. To put it into persepective Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar was actually a really fresh match up when it first happened. That never delivered and I have no faith in Orton to deliver.

    ReplyDelete
  33. He needs a run in WCW to freshen up.

    ReplyDelete
  34. $60? I mean I have in the past but now I only have to pay $10 and that's an easy call. And shit man, I don't even like Ambrose and Rollins much (they're OK but Ambrose tries too hard and has 3 different facial expressions and 2 tones of delivery.) But even then I can't wait to see them fucking kill each other. Those guys make me believe there is animosity. But whatever if that's not your thing that's cool.

    ReplyDelete
  35. I would actually be interested in watching Orton vs Brock at least once.

    ReplyDelete
  36. You mean the face run where he constantly got some of the loudest pops of the show, week in, and week out for the better part of 2 years? Sometimes, I laugh at the revisionist history of some.

    ReplyDelete
  37. Problem is if you were to rank all eight guys, everyone on that face team except maybe Reigns is booked as not on the level of the four heels. The Rhodes Brothers especially are wayyyyyy below the other six.

    ReplyDelete
  38. I can't wait for them to go with face Orton vs. heel Lesnar. The Philly crowd at the Rumble is going to boo the shit out of Orton and get behind Brock. I hope the crowd yells out the count each time Brock does a suplex.

    ReplyDelete
  39. You still could I guess, but you have to undo a lot of stuff and kill the Rollins and Ambrose pushes (or Rollins, certainly...probably Ambrose because of Reigns). Still, that would have been amazing a few months ago before they split the Shield.

    ReplyDelete
  40. I think it got meaningless at the end, but (and I'm not really an Orton fan) I thought he was doing fine for awhile. As annoyed as I was when he beat Christian right after Christian won the title, Orton from then til the end of 2011 was absolutely killing it, and I thought he was fine for awhile after that too.


    That said, I don't want to see Orton turn face, because I think that would seriously undo all the work they've done building up new top faces like Ambrose, Reigns, and Bryan (although Bryan's probably made enough for now that it doesn't matter, when he comes back). Cena's already the tip top face under all circumstances...the only way these other guys have been able to get over at a top level is by settling in as the #2 when Cena goes and does something else. Put Orton above them too and forget it, they'll be fighting Sheamus for the US title more often than not.

    ReplyDelete
  41. What's the deal with the Orton hate? He's not the greatest face but as a heel? Totally works and easy to wanna punch him in the face. And the way most people here speak of him, sounds like I'm not alone in this, though no one would admit it. Shit man...show of honest hands, how many of you would pay $50 to punch the dude in the dick?

    ReplyDelete
  42. I was on the fence about going to SS, but if it's Orton - Brock I'm bringing my booing shoes. In a better world Orton would be a mechanic at IC/US title level.

    ReplyDelete
  43. My last pay <-chec,k was $9500 working, 12 hours a week, online. My neighbour's sister has been averaging, 15k for months,, now and she works, abou,t 20 hours a week,. I can't, believe how, easy it was once I tried it out,.,,,.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    Here ­­­­­­­­­is ­­­­­­­­­I ­­­­­­­­­started,➜➜••► check₄₄.cₒm
    ->>>>>>>
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    {Go to link in this site}

    ReplyDelete
  44. I never had a problem with him. Jowever, I could understand how someone watching every minute of every show for the past decade could be tired of him.

    ReplyDelete
  45. The recent matches with Cena were ultimately a disappointment IMO, so I'm definitely in favour of Lesnar-Orton rather than Lesnar-Cena IV. They've never had a PPV match and I think it would be an interesting mesh of styles.

    ReplyDelete
  46. Tell me more, tell me more, can it go very far?
    Tell me more, tell me more, Could I buy a new car?

    ReplyDelete
  47. I never thought I would read the words "dream match" and "Randy Orton" in the same sentence.

    ReplyDelete
  48. Let's not forget he was a glorified midcarder from about November 2011 to Summerslam 2013. And he was a total pro during the whole thing.

    ReplyDelete
  49. Cena/Brock at the Rumble in Philly? It's better than the last Brock title match we got.

    ReplyDelete
  50. Makes me think of the 80's. how many TV title defenses did say, Hogan/Savage/Warrior have during their reigns? Hell, most PPVs were stuff like main event tag matches, or the champ being in 4 on 4 matches, or in the Rumble match.

    ReplyDelete
  51. I would guess Holly?

    ReplyDelete
  52. I don't know. Brock's whole "thing" is that he's this dominant monster who doesn't need anyone (well, Heyman, but no actual physical back-up). Putting him in a stable risks making him "just another guy"

    ReplyDelete
  53. Yes, and then Hogan worked house shows twice a week so that they were making SOMETHING off him, plus they talked about him constantly on TV to remind us he's the champion. Brock's the champion and no one even brings up the fact that he's violating the 30-day rule that "forced" the Authority to strip Daniel Bryan of the title.

    ReplyDelete
  54. It's a shame they've played the heel/face turn so many times w/ Orton. It's not the only thing that's made his character so "meh" (he's also contributed to it) but it sure hasn't helped. Orton is lucky that he'll have such an awesome heel to work w/ in Rollins, who has been stellar at making people hate him.

    ReplyDelete
  55. He always seems to get a huge reaction when he comes out... but then it leads to "JBL" chants

    ReplyDelete
  56. Orton vs. Brock would have been awesome if it happened between Cena at Extreme Rules and Triple H at SummerSlam. Sometime in 2012. Orton was still on a roll as a face and Brock was Brock.

    ReplyDelete
  57. $10... maybe. Sure. $60? Oh no way.

    ReplyDelete
  58. Raw is more realistic than Hawaii Five-0

    ReplyDelete
  59. Let's be fair...I got kids and a mortgage. Do you think I'm going to drop $60 on a TV show? WM sure but that's an event not a monthly show. I usually wait for the DVD.

    ReplyDelete
  60. Malenko played an antic on me! MALENKO! MALENKO!! MALENKO!!!

    ReplyDelete
  61. It's been interesting to hear podcasts (mostly Jericho, but some Austin and Jim Ross) talk about Benoit candidly (especially Jericho during his podcast with Chavo Guerrero). We've also learned since 2007 what this CTE has done to football and hockey players who have gone out in a blaze of glory or committed suicide. (On a side note, I think it's only a matter of time before the Benoit scenario plays out with a current or former NFL player.)


    It sounds like Benoit always had a screw loose, was distant, and obviously was feeling pain from his physical style, but also from all accounts, he was a kind person based on the accounts of all his colleagues (who knew him far, far better than we fans did). They all acknowledged how hard the Eddie Guerrero death was on him.


    This isn't a defense of him or what he did. But I tend to believe the science that said his brain was riddled and he likely would've died within a year of the dreaded enlarged heart like so many before him. I believe the accounts of his closest friends who say he was an ill individual. It's easy to explain away his actions as that of a cold-blooded killer, but mental illness is real and was obviously at play here. Not to say I enjoy a Chris Benoit match now like I did in the past, but I can watch the man on television from a Nitro in 1995 and not think that he was plotting ways to commit heinous crimes in between suplexing and power bombing the shit out of people.

    ReplyDelete

Post a Comment