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Potential Hell in the Cell Matches

Right now, there is a plan in place for John Cena to face off against Dean Ambrose on RAW with the winner facing Seth Rollins at Hell in a Cell and the loser possibly facing Randy Orton.

Credit PWInsider.com



Another Update on the Future of the Wyatt Family

Right now, the plan is for all three members of the family to go their separate ways

Credit PWInsider.com



RAW Ratings

RAW scored their best ratings since Monday Night Football started up again. Their 4.03 million viewers was up 4% from last week. Here are the hourly breakdowns:

8pm: 4.02 million
9pm: 4.22 million
10pm: 3.88 million

http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/96-wwe-news/39199-raw-ratings-notes












Comments

  1. The Raw ratings were helped by the fact that MNF was a blowout, but that third-hour drop can't be healthy.

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  2. Hogan = Ratings

    Start the build to Hogan vs Cena for Mania now.

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  3. Hogan should talk about breast cancer every week, brother!

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  4. Yeah, the MNF game was crap but I thought that would have helped the 3rd hour. Then again there was some brutal stuff on that third hour

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  5. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:19 AM

    The Wyatts are splitting, and they're not even keeping Rowan and Harper as a team? I find that questionable for a number of reasons.

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  6. The team has run its course and barely even gets to be on RAW anymore. Makes sense to me

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  7. Still hoping that they pony up some money to get Cena/Brock in the cell, but it's not looking good.

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  8. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    But what do you do with them? Does Bray get repackaged? At least you could make a serviceable JTTS team out of the other two, but what about him?

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  9. Yeah, I want to hate this, but it just doesn't make sense anymore.

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  10. Harper gets a singles push and Rowan gets repackaged. Not looking to good for Rowan at the moment

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  11. They've killed Bray dead. Good job, team. Great stuff.

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  12. yes but this is all booking. They ran their course because Vince and Co decided not to put them over the Uso's when they were super hot and then deciding they could only focus on 2 tag teams at a time so they went with Uso/Dust Brothers.

    Rowan and Harper are a great team and could still have a lot of mileage in them.

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  13. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:25 AM

    Repackaged as what, though? Are they just going to bring him out with a new gimmick and pretend the cult leader stuff never happened? I mean, it wouldn't be the first time they've pulled that stunt, but in this day and age I don't know if the fans will go for it.

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  14. It makes sense..for a cult leader not to have a cult................. Breaking up Rowan and Harper is a terrible idea to me. I'd be happy to be wrong about this but I don't see Rowan getting over on his own. Harper should be ok though

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  15. Based on the vignettes, it looks lie Bray is setting them free

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  16. Yeah, the Wyatts had some entertaining matches and Bray cut some good promos, but the whole thing has felt like wasted potential. The expectations were high and they just never had Bray's promos translate to anything meaningful in a feud. I think they are a stable that would've worked best with Russo.

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  17. Looks like a habit's formed. Some people are gonna bail in hour 3 no matter what.

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  18. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:26 AM

    So he's a One Man Cult now? Eh.

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  19. He should be OK, but I can't see them doing anything with him other than Hillbilly Sheamus.

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  20. They had the whole audience on board for a new gimmick and did absolutely nothing with it to the point that we are all expecting 2 of the 3 guys to be DOA when they split.

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  21. It worked for George Gray! Soon Bray can become the next Akeem!

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  22. They are probably retooling that as well. The gimmick ran its course and they are changing it and I think that is a sensible decision to be honest.

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  23. The Ascension will get their spot as the powerhouse tag team anyway so a breakup might help them out more

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  24. They need to bring back the brand extension and make Smackdown mean something again. That way you can do a break-up like this and it work.

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  25. I feel the same way about The Shield, too. Entertaining matches, but never a meaningful, captivating feud. I just don't get how this company has three hours of Raw and can't think of anything interesting to do with these stables that fans are dying to see.

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  26. The Cena feud killed him and Bray's promos never went anywhere after that as it all felt recycled so a change is a good thing. Why have him spiral down further with a dead end gimmick?

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  27. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:29 AM

    Yeah, it's hard to defend this one.

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  28. Just tweak "cult leader" into "crazy prophet" and go with that. Small adjustment

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  29. I agree with you...

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  30. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    I see "fat dancing comedy heel" in his future. Might be a lateral move, career-wise.

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  31. At least with the Shield they were all booked fairly strong and had a game plan to a degree for each guy. Where Rowan/Harper jobbed out of the division and Bray ...well..we all know what's happened there

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  32. And I meant to reply to someone else

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  33. Hell, they almost didn't go for Bray with the Husky Harris chants when he debuted.

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  34. BTW that's exactly why no one wanted Norris catching that game. Who cares if he and Lester are used to each other. Norris is the worst day to day player the A's have ever had

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  35. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 1, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    There was no need to have the Wyatt-Cena feud if this was the end game. They had something cool going with Wyatt and it's dead.

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  36. lol, OK. I was confused for a second.

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  37. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    You must be elated by this Wyatt news.

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  38. Cena vs Rollins and Ambrose vs Rollins are fine but why do it an a hitc. If you have to use that played out as gimmick the matches that make sense are Rollins vs Ambrose and Cena vs Lesnar but Vince is in the shit diapers stage of life so we get something else.

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  39. It was cool... but what was his end game? Like we talked about with O'Haire... the vignettes and ideas are nice, but what is his goal? To build a cult to do what? Hard to identify with those types of characters.

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  40. Then people can complain about how they need to end the split. Circle of life

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  41. Hopefully after the single pushes fizzle out Bray gets sent back to nxt like the fat dinosaur dancer dude.

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  42. I did this. Moaned about the split and the two world titles for a decade straight. Now I'd bring them back. Bah.

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  43. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 1, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    You can have a stable that dominates the WWE.

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  44. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 1, 2014 at 9:37 AM

    RAW IS DEAN

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  45. Yeah but he never said he wanted to win titles, or make money... why do they want to dominate? Why do they wrestle?

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  46. Unless Rowan/Harper change characters because they are no longer brainwashed, Rowan vs. the Bunny is just too obvious, right? I guess Harper could join the Sheamus/Cesaro hoss division. Since I don't think Bray has won a major match without the Wyatts interfering, I'm not sure he can realistically hang in the title hunt.

    I know he's not done much, but holy cow have the last 14 months just killed Orton; he is ADR level to me. Now, Orton is (theoretically) the reward for losing a match, leading to a match we've probably seen but would have far less heat than Ambrose-Rollins or a match we've seen eleventy billion times.

    Will be interesting to see if MLB postseason (assuming there is a game on Monday) dings the viewership.

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  47. He was a horror movie character on the dumbest show on tv. No way in hell that was ever going to work.

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  48. I was for it from day 1. Less over-exposure, we'd see wrestlers once a week instead of twice.

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  49. The "Why does he wrestle?" thing can apply to an overwhelming percentage of other wrestlers too. Sometimes it's best not to over think it.

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  50. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 1, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    The writers can't write that in there for him? I mean, can't they eventually have a wrestler develop?

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  51. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:40 AM

    ECW gimmick in a PG world. Yeah, it was definitely doomed. Too bad, because the fans seemed willing to go along for the ride, but there was no destination.

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  52. Except he's a evil swap guy. What's the point and why is he on my tv

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  53. And seriously why was Chris Hero too fat but I had to see that slob in the Hawaiian shirt wrestle fucking john Cena at mania? What a waste

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  54. Why didn't they use Dunn in that game, even as a pinch hitter? Why even go out and get him then?

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  55. Why did the "best" pitcher in the al give up 6 earned runs and 8 hits in 7.1 innings? Trading cespeses doomed the season from the jump.

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  56. Dunn sucks and is totally washed up anyways.

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  57. Put all four of them in a cell. They all have issues with each other. The fatal 4-way would be different for HIAC. If not, then Cena goes over Ambrose (not what the universe wants) or we have, once again Cena vs. Orton.

    Best would be Cena vs. Lesner and Ambrose vs. Rollins in the HIAC.

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  58. Again, this can relate to almost any wrestler's gimmick in history. (except for the "swap" part)

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  59. What do the 411 recaps say about him? Is it good or bad?

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  60. He has power at least. No one else does.

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  61. Maybe one of the most counter-productive trades in history. Their team chemistry just got destroyed the moment the trade happened.

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  62. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 1, 2014 at 9:46 AM

    HOLY HYBERBOLE

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  63. I didn't read the word "wrestle" in your first sentence originally, and wondered which WrestleMania you were thinking of.

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  64. It worked fine for a while, then Vince got too protective and greedy over RAW, and turned Smackdown into a glorified feeder system. Now it's not even that, just another two hours for the TV deal.

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  65. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/OAK/2014.shtml Wanna look at those stats and still make that argument?

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  66. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:47 AM

    Sounded good in theory and started off strong, but then the disparity between the brands became too much to ignore and Smackdown might have been on the verge of being cancelled if not for SyFy taking the leap.

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  67. Bad move and Lester will sign elsewhere in free agency

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  68. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 1, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    That would be pretty cool. Fuck it add Orton and Kane in there and rehash Armageddon 2000.

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  69. Hey, the goal of that trade was to not lose to Detroit in the playoffs again this year. GOAL ACCOMPLISHED!!!! :)

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  70. Wait, his .270 was the best average among starters/regulars?


    HOW IN THE FUCK?

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  71. The brand split was good when they actually kept it separate. Once they put everyone on raw anyways and did the same ppvs it was awful. In theory it was a good idea.

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  72. The Brand Split PPVs drew poorly and they tweaked it to the point that the brands meant nothing

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  73. Wanna lick my ass while your mom sucks my cock?

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  74. OMG BURN! I DON'T WATCH EVERY MOMENT OF WWE TV!!

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  75. I am not blaming him... just saying why those characters are tough to make work.

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  76. If they have Cena beat Ambrose and THEN beat Rollins, I just won't even know what to say anymore.......

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  77. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    An evil swinger is a gimmick I'm surprised WWE never tried. Although I guess Viscera was close enough.

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  78. you could say #LOLCENAWINSX2

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  79. Throw the bunny in there instead of Kane.

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  80. Sadly, the same ball busting Orton went through is now being done to Rollins.

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  81. Cena vs Rollins would be an awesome match. I see nothing bad about that (other than no Rollins vs ambrose in a hell in the cell match)

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  82. Unfortunately the real goal of the trade was to not pay cespeses in 2015. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!

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  83. If MLB runs a game against MNF, they deserve the shitkicking they'll get.

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  84. I know.

    CENAWINSLOL

    THEN
    NOW
    FOREVER

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  85. I would be for that IF the tag champs and world champ went across both shows. I hated having two world champions. However, budget cuts won't let them grow the roster enough for a good brand split. How are you going to do a three hour RAW in a brand split era with the current crop? You'd get rematches out the ying yang even more than now.

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  86. So basically, Ambrose and Rollins have the hottest feud in the company, so we have to transfer this to Cena because Vince.

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  87. They should just play video of Triple H vs Nash in the cell for all the people in the arena instead of running Cena vs Rollins.

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  88. "Rollins has until the seventh inning stretch to answer the challenge from Dean Ambrose!"

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  89. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    Am I missing something with Rollins? He obviously has megaheat now because of the Shield breakup and all, but beyond that he seems like a completely average midcard heel. Of course, so was HHH, so maybe that explains a lot.

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  90. Let's keep in mind that this is not confirmed yet, but yeah, I would not like it if it's indeed the case.

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  91. As a fan, I don't think there's anything sad about it. Rollins is great as a talented but inept heel. It suits him because he, like Orton, naturally comes across as being a bit slow-witted.

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  92. The way Rollins is being booked right now he's not really a threat to anyone.

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  93. Well, at least HHH hasn't turned face and pitted himself against Rollins yet.

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  94. Rollins vs Cena is a money feud, and one I'd be happy to see. Also Cena puts over all the iwc darlings. My confusion is why not do ambrose vs Rollins at hitc then move on to Rollins vs cena

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  95. When Dean Ambrose and Cena stand side by side, it makes Cena look that much worse. Dean comes off 10x cooler ever time.

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  96. It would be funny if, somehow/some way, Erick Rowan becomes the biggest star of the group.

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  97. The problem is that Cena will more than likely go over at a time when they should be protecting Rollins.

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  98. That match drew surprisingly well. Probably helped that Foley was the guest ref too.

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  99. That halftime thing as one of the dumbest things this company ever did.

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  100. I don't think you get the issue people have with it.


    Some of the matches at Bound for Glory will be great, I'm sure, but, just like those, what purpose would Cena/Rollins serve? Cena winning AGAIN? I know they've got to keep him strong -- wouldn't want to accidentally build new stars.

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  101. I also hate this binary take on stables and teams. They are either on or off...Why can't the Wyatts be doing their own thing but still loosely connected and the others could come out of the woodwork at any point? Like with Reigns and Ambrose. Why don't they ever have each others back they have no issues with each other other than they both got back stabbed but ...the shield is broke up so they can't act like they know each other.

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  102. It was the same when Reigns was in Ambrose's current spot. One looks like a bad-ass man, the other looks like a dorky man-child.

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  103. Cena and Ambrose fighting over who gets to get their hands on Rollins first is a more interesting dynamic, I think.

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  104. To be fair, anyone would look like a dorky man-child in Cena's gear. Ambrose in jorts and a neon t-shirt would look like a sex offender. Especially with his receding hairline.

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  105. Pretty sure you accidentally pasted your craigslist ad here by mistake.


    btw - Are you drunk, or is this about the level you're normally at?

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  106. It was also sad that Foley had to do the biggest bump in the match.

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  107. I see zero point in breaking up the Wyatts. I guess since they're not really 'officially' breaking up, Bray can summon his minions back for a random tag match or feud in the future, yet as has been pointed out....a cult leader without a cult is a pretty lame gimmick. Also, cults don't let their charges "go back out into the world" since that's the whole point of being in a cult.

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  108. What purpose would Cena vs Rollins serve? It would he a good match? What do you want, for Cena to just go away? The match would be fantastic and Cena always puts over the iwc darlings

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  109. What bump was that? I watched the match but can't recall anything about it.

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  110. It was amusing to see Cena riled up to fight Dean the night after NOC, but only after tossing the hat this way, the towel that way, the shirt a third way, and the chain a fourth. "I'm gonna kick your ass, but first let me distribute my merch."

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  111. The Love-Matic Grampa!October 1, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    This is the price to be paid for Brock going over Cena so strongly at Summerslam. I'm starting to think HHH and Stephanie locked Vince in his office during the show and just played him a video of Extreme Rules 2012 instead.

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  112. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 1, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    LOL, Orton is a consolation prize

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  113. He got bumped out of the ring, then Nash hit the powerbomb on HHH, and Foley popped right back in with a regular count, and HHH kicked out.



    Nash said in a shoot interview that he was pissed about it, like they were trying to kill his finisher (Foley was supposed to be knocked out for at least 15-20 seconds, so the kickout didn't kill his finisher)

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  114. Bray's dead in the water at this point. It's going to take something big to get him back.

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  115. LOL. In a way, it's a nice touch on his character. I hate that I'm defending John Cena on doing something dorky, but that just fit him perfectly.

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  116. Rowan/Ambrose headlines Wrestlemania 32.

    I remember around 2005 or so my friend and I would joke that Miz would be main eventing Wrestlemania versus Hornswaggle in a few years... that was one time I regret being even partially right.

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  117. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 1, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    DEAN IS MASTERING TITTIES (as we speak)

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  118. Can't disagree. It's one thing to time it for half time... but DO NOT SAY SO.

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  119. You mean you don't think the A's will resign him? It was a cespeses salary dump made to look like an aggressive all in move. Happens to save the team almost 6 million dollars.

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  120. I thought something similar towards the end of the main event when it looked like Ambrose/Cena/Rollins were all feuding... why is this old guy being sho horned into this feud with the future of the company... would have been like Hogan being involved in the Bret/HBK feud.

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  121. What the hell are you talking about?


    It isn't about IWC darlings (but way to drag that one out of the dust balls kicking and screaming). It's about building new stars, which WWE SORELY needs and seems to have forgotten how to do.


    Since about 2006-2007, who have they built?


    Not a damn person that they've kept on top (unless the fans force them to do so -- Bryan's injury was a happy day for the McMahons, because they were allowed to go right back to the status quo). Every single person they bring up, they knock back down once Cena is done with him. It's the Hogan "monster of the week" all over again.


    Should I do a list?

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  122. Is there a reason why The Wyatts didn't take over The Shield's push once The Shield broke up? There's always room for a monster heel stable to dominate when needed. This whole situation confuses me.

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  123. I always thought Ambrose looked like a deranged David Caruso.

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  124. Worst_in_the_WorldOctober 1, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Yup, one of the few guys in the promotion who consistently gets big crowd reactions is "dead in the water."

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  125. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 1, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    With all of the armchair booking we do when we hear news we don't like, here's a devil's advocate question for the BoD:

    Do we really know better than whoever's doing Creative in WWE? Why or why not?

    /Not HHH soliciting feedback, I swear

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  126. But, but, he didn't beat the top face of the last decade in his first full year! His career is ruined FOREVAH!!

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  127. To me, Rollins has main-event in-ring talent, but mid-card personality and mic-skills (and look).


    Which is a shame, because he's just so good in the ring. Here's hoping that, in a year or so when the heel angle has played out, he gets a nice run as a face.

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  128. Especially because the way they framed it was lame. I thought at first they meant half time for the show, which would be 9:30. Instead, it was halftime of the damn NFL game!

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  129. The family guy manatees could book a better show than Vince at this point. So yes, I do know more just from watching wrestling all my life, on how to book a quality show, than a team of people who want to jam square pegs in round holes because they hate wrestling and are embarrassed to be associated with it.

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  130. I think that's going to be the next phase, as Cena gets desperately plugged into hotter feuds and angles to keep him relevant.

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  131. His career is definitely ruined, just not because of Cena.

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  132. He's actually in their top five or six in most of their offensive stats

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  133. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 1, 2014 at 10:08 AM

    Absolutely. The majority of us have watched enough wrestling to know something's stupid. For instance, Roman Reigns promos. No one here would push something that miserable.

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  134. He's not really doing anything of note since the Jericho feud, and now he's losing his team. Maybe dead in the water is a stretch, but he's definitely lost position since earlier in the year.

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  135. Worst_in_the_WorldOctober 1, 2014 at 10:09 AM

    Except it absolutely worked until WWE booking fucked the guys over, and then it still was working better than the majority of the roster.

    How many guys on the roster get bigger entrance pops or have more over matches than the Wyatts?

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  136. At the end of the day, they never gave him anything to do to pay off his promos. WWE has a real problem advancing angles and the Wyatts have basically been spinning their wheels.

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  137. I could see Cena winning over Ambrose on RAW and Ambrose spending the whole time Cena vs. Rollins is going on in the Hell in a Cell trying to break in to the cell somehow.

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  138. It depends. I think wrestling fans can come up with good ideas, but I don't think anyone who doesn't have experience putting together a television show could necessarily do that aspect of it.

    If I were in charge, I'd just redo old feuds.

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  139. He was killing it in the black and pink. Let him win one for Susan G. Coleman, brother!

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  140. This year is definitely an example of why having a dedicated Hell in a Cell ppv is a bad idea. The cell should be brought in as needed, not because of the calendar.

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  141. Their creative process seems horrible as Vince changes on a whim and you write to his changes, even if they make no sense and they always write stuff that insults their viewers

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  142. WCW did the exact same thing with the September War Games from 1992'ish to 1998 though. So it's not like it's a unique thing.

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  143. Yeah I just turned the TV off after the 11th inning. I've been an A's fan for a long time so I knew where that was heading. I went on a TV and internet blackout all night to avoid the pro royals chatter.

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  144. We think we do, but we don't.

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  145. Hey, I'm all for it, brother!

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  146. No, my question is how in the hell does a team whose best hitter only hits .270 manage to make the playoffs?


    (Yeah, AVG is overrated.)

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  147. I'd love for Cena to turn heel in the next week. Since HHH reads the interwebs now, so he could learn this incredible idea!!

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  148. For sure. TLC is another example.

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  149. It's in his interest.

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  150. Take this post, engrave it, frame it, and send that shit directly to Vince McMahon. Because the old man really doesn't seem to get it.

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  151. They a great entrance that got over. But you gotta have some steak with your sizzle or you'll just be a flash in the pan.

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  152. If someone doesn't ask him "Who has a bigger dick, Stephanie or Chyna" in his reddit AMA the internet has failed.

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  153. David Caruso looks like a deranged David Caruso.

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  154. Please tell us how Bray benefited from the Cena feud.

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  155. KC made the playoffs with 19 being their highest homerun total for a player.

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  156. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 1, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    Which ones (from the actual Fall Brawl PPV era, not the Crockett ones) do you think made sense and which ones do you think felt forced?

    Made sense: definitely '96 and '97 (hell, '97 was even booked one way but changed b/c of the nWo's parody of the Horsemen)

    '94 made sense, I think

    '98 and 2000 were stupid

    Can't really comment on '93 or '95, and there wasn't one in '99

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  157. Not unique. But certainly dumb.

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  158. It's because JR gave it the best setup ever, closing out Raw with, "TRIPLE H! NASH! HELL IN A CELL! BAD BLOOD! MY ASS!!!"

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  159. MikeyMike, WitnessOctober 1, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    93 was pretty stupid too. They already did the tag match at Beach Blast and ended up just adding Dustin Rhodes, the SHOCKMASTER, and Harlem Heat (KANE AND KOLE!)

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  160. Yeah, I mean, are the writers they hire even wrestling fans? There's a difference in watching and knowing wrestling and being able to structure a three-hour show. The writers know that aspect of it, but to say that they know how to make captivating characters and engaging storylines is a bunch of shit.

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  161. The only team in the majors with under 100 home runs as a team

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  162. Mmm-hmm, and why aren't you writing cohesive scripts for majorly popular television shows? Let me guess, "you don't want to."

    I think we all have the ability to agree that Katie Vick was a dumb storyline, but put the voted-upon 5 best "writers" from this board in charge of Raw for a week and you'll get a miserable wet fart of an episode on par with the regular weekly drivel, probably worse in terms of pacing and blocking out segments properly. Guaranteed.

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  163. You have to get a creative writing degree from Harvard to think of a "viper with no teeth is a worm"

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  164. Virgil's Gimmick TableOctober 1, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    If they insert Cena into this feud in Ambrose's place I might just skip Hell in a Cell. I mean, I know they can always pick up the Ambrose/Rollins feud at TLC and blow it off there, but I they really need to stop sticking Cena into feuds just to save the day and give him something to do. Ambrose and Rollins have done excellently with this feud on their own. Let them sink or swim. Don't try to throw Cena into the equation just cause Lesnar won't be there. Give him something else to do. Or just give him a rest for a month. That's the only way they're gonna know the potential drawing capabilities of Rollins and Ambrose in the near future.

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  165. 95 was Hogan and friends vs Dungeon so it made sense at the time. Not saying it was any good...

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  166. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 1, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    RE: Kane and Kole, I always have trouble remembering who is who. I use Michael Cole as a reference, as in "Booker T is considered the non-sucky one, was [Michale Cole] also the sucky one?"

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  167. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 1, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    Giant's awful attempt to twist Hogan's neck

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  168. "Because by facing Cena, it established Bray as a serious player and big time star," something that hasn't been true of facing an established main eventer since the 80s.

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  169. Worst_in_the_WorldOctober 1, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    So you pretty much don't watch any Wyatts TV and PPV matches then, right? Cause the matches themselves were consistently very good and over.
    The Usos/Wyatts tag series, their TV 6-mans, the Bray/Jericho cage match.

    I know you think the gimmick (violent crazy southern guys!) is somehow too weird for pro wrestling, but you're outright disregarding what's actually on TV in favor of what you wnat to believe.

    The booking of Bray since Cena has been awful, but the fans are legit still into their act despite that.



    This whole "dead in the water" talk is hilariously over the top BoD stuff.

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  170. Agree. If you want to push a dude and he's not good on the mic why not do the Goldberg deal of no real talking or here's an idea...get a manager for him.

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  171. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 1, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    "How do you feel about getting Macho's sloppy seconds?"

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  172. So yeah the splitting of the Wyatts is beyond dumb at this point unless they see something more in Harper and Rowan and want to push them in different guises. Harper would need a major change though. A follower without a leader is just strange. I see Rowan future endeavored though if he's not with Bray. Bray can get his heat back if he gets at least another lackey or comes up with a promo saying he doesn't need anyone in the locker room since the crowd is now his family. If he has a lackey I'm going to suggest Orton. He's stale as stale can be and his promos blow. If he follows Bray it could FINALLY be a big name that's following him for a while, it gives Orton something to do besides being a consolation prize, and lets someone else talk for him. A crazy bearded Orton might be fun. Yes I said Orton and fun in the same sentence...

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  173. Virgil's Gimmick TableOctober 1, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Belee dat.

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  174. Kinda looked like they were rebooting the Wyatts with those vignettes on Raw... not splitting them up

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  175. Green sliming someone as well. Or putting laxatives in someone's coffee.

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  176. Damn, if only I had the power to make that happen. It would be fun to shut a few of ya'll up... but I know that would never happen.

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  177. I remember Vader's hilarious promo for that (when he was originally supposed to be on Hogan's team). "I'm GOING TO TAKE A SHOWER!"

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  178. Any asshole off the street could do a better job than they do.
    Also you ask why isn't anyone booking the wwe already if we could a better job. 1) I (and probably moat people here with full time employment) make way more money than some shitty wwe writer and 2)Vince would never hire a fan or allow someone else to book his shit better

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  179. About Chyna, I still get nightmares about it, CAN'T... UNSEE....


    However Stephanie, I take offense! Still a very attractive woman, she just happens to work out more. No man parts down there! I choose to believe that.

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  180. As long as Ambrose wins, thus giving us the Rollins/Ambrose HitC match many of us have been pointing to for months, I'm cool with the way they're going through with this. I actually always liked when a couple of the top feuds would spill into each other, like in 98 when Austin vs McMahon/Corporation would overlap with DX vs Nation.

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  181. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 1, 2014 at 10:20 AM

    Then suddenly, a wild Paul Orndorff appeared

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  182. The guy who wrote the Bella's storyline should get the Pultizer

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  183. Yes. Why? Simply because some/most of us have followed THIS BUSINESS for years, and can at least manage to not violate Wrestling 101 on a weekly basis. Someone mentioned it below, but Vince (NOT "Creative") seems hellbent on fitting square pegs into round holes.


    And all that's doing is damaging those workers, to where even if they do hit upon a hot storyline, there's little faith that it'll be allowed to "naturally" progress. Why? Because Vince had yet another of his bright ideas.

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  184. Yeah, I fucking hate the argument that "if you know so much better, why aren't you doing it?" Lamest retort ever.

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  185. Not this week. Kirk Cousins vs Seattle likely means a blowout by 9 pm.

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  186. Virgil's Gimmick TableOctober 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM

    It's like WWE is being written by ex-Nickelodeon writers now. Which actually wouldn't surprise me at all.

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  187. Oh I am a well known Stephanie is hot advocate... but most people say she is manly... and I expect a certain amount of douchery from the interwebs.

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  188. Except he's not a serious player and a big time star.

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  189. Gunther the Nasty LoserOctober 1, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    kbjone made a reference to THIS BUSINESS which reminded me:


    Did anyone catch Cole and JBL actually using the term "the product" the other night?

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  190. At the same time, are wrestling fans good writers? You need someone who's both.

    Without it, you can swap in a fan for a professional writer and instead of "Heath Slater beats Fernando," you get "Finn Balor beats Randy Orton." That'll make a bunch of dicks hard in the corners of the Internet, but it won't do much for business.

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