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Sheamus Update

While the injury segment on RAW was just part of the story, Sheamus has apparently underwent a surgical procedure. No word on when he will return to the ring.

Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com



WWE.com Feature on Survivor Series Teams That Almost Happened

http://www.wwe.com/shows/survivorseries/survivor-series-teams-almost-happened-photos



New NXT Stable

The trio of Chad Gable, Angelo Dawkins, and Sawyer Fulton will be an amateur wrestling trio know as "Shoot Nation."

Credit Dave Meltzer, Wrestling Observer Newsletter



And make sure to vote for the Group R bracket in today's PTBN "Greatest Songs of the 90's" poll. Vote by clicking on the link below.

http://placetobenation.com/ptbns-greatest-song-of-the-90s-tournament-pool-round-one-group-r/

Comments

  1. Sheamus is having a fake surgery? KAYFABE ALL THE WAY!

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  2. "Shoot Nation" -- Gotta love it when the team name says, "Everything is fake, but these guys are real." Will this team be managed by Vince Russo?

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  3. The Daddy Mac'll make ya... Jump! Jump!

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  4. How long until Shoot Nation feuds with New Day? Come on Vince, live down to my expectations!

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  5. Don't expect "Shoot Nation" to last. Kids, casual fans and (most importantly) mainstream media don't know what a "shoot" is and are more likely to associate it with shit like what just happened in Florida.

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  6. I hope they're heels. No one, in good conscience, can root for someone named Chad.

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  7. They should give that name to a brother tag team. They could be the Shoot, bruthas!!

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  8. I'd kinda roll with that and put them in camo, but too many people would be all 'I'm scared of TV' and it'd be scuttled.

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  9. Every segment ends with the format sheet being ripped apart.

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  10. This just in:

    Matt_INDEED!!! gives me a chubber.

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  11. This just in:


    Don't use "this just IN" and "chubber" in the same post.

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  12. "They have done the unthinkable. THEY REFUSED TO FOLLOW THE SCRIPT!!"

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  13. He is committed to his craft

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  14. I'm glad he's finally addressing his crippling case of Anime Hair.

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  15. I find it sad that the Survivor Series teams stops after 1991. I wish we had more almost-team ups.

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  16. TJ: This is random, but when Flair joined the WWF in 1991, they had him squash Neidhart on TV to establish him. I wonder why oh why they didn't use the recently face turned Greg Valentine instead, who happened to be floundering in the midcard. Battle of the figure fours, Flair wins clean, Instant credibility for those who don't know him well.

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  17. The recent brackets have been tough decisions. Earlier I hadn't heard of almost all of the songs.

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  18. Who's not voting for Streets of Philadelphia? Come on!

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  19. I could see Flair not wanting to squash his friend Valentine. Also, the Hammer was a poor babyface. Neidhart at least got cheers.

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  20. Because Vince is a millionaire who should be a billionaire?

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  21. Not my favorite Bruce song.

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  22. Well I went Kris's kross, Springsteen, mj, Alice in chains, and limp biscuit because that song was a major hit. Same reason I voted for nysnc.

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  23. But...He rhymes Philadelphia with Philadelphia...

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  24. Does anyone on the roster need more of a reset then Sheamus?


    Great look,great talent but no one is more bland and directionless than him at the moment. Heel turn in the new year is an absolute must.

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  25. Hammer was kind of over in a match against IRS around the same time period. And also, WWF only fans saw Valentine as the "master of the figure four" for the past 5-6 years, so Flair did kind of seem like he was stealing the move. I'm sure lots of people had only heard of him, but never seen him by then.

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  26. I wonder how people would remember Valentine if he had spent most of his time in the nwa instead of the WWF. He's super underrated. He's Backlund matches were amazing.

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  27. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonNovember 21, 2014 at 8:24 AM

    ..........Bill Cosby?

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  28. My votes are actually all the current top 5.

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  29. I only saw him from 1988 to 1992, and I won't lie, I was totally underwhelmed. Like as a mark, I knew "he has the toughness to win matches', but I always found him so boring.

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  30. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonNovember 21, 2014 at 8:25 AM

    But knowing them they will be a group of ex-pornstars managed by Val Venis.

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  31. *rimshot, with his pudding pop"

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  32. I can't believe how far Sheamus has fallen. Sucks because he was very good. Its a shame there isn't a #2 promotion he can really go work for without it being a total embarrassment.

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  33. His peak was 81-86.

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  34. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonNovember 21, 2014 at 8:27 AM

    He had a very good feud with Tito Santana over the IC title.

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  35. Yeah, he really is a victim of a stagnant product. This is what the WWE monopoly on wrestling has helped cause too. Guys get stale as there is nowhere else for them to go.

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  36. I'm holding out hope; once Rusev loses to Cena he'll need something to do. A 'Tough Guy Challenge' or something featuring heavy hitters like Sheamus, Rusev, Barrett, Swagger etc. could lead to some fun brawls.

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  37. I don't know if Bill was into that...

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  38. Theberzerker! HUSS!November 21, 2014 at 8:27 AM

    They really need to call up Zayn, like yesterday. They have such a dearth of good faces, even if Bryan & Reigns were back now, and lots of current faces like Sheamus could either use a heel turn, or should have stayed heel and will be rocketing back that way shortly like Rowan. Zayn is such an instant sympathetic face but with proper intensity to not be cheesy a la Bryan. Not that I trust anything they'll do with him on the main roster, but still, he would be pretty refreshing right now.

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  39. Valentine was the best wrestler in the WWF in 1984

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  40. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonNovember 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM

    Send him to NXT.

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  41. Biff Kensington IIINovember 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM

    Last night's talk about Randy Savage had me in a nostalgic mood, and so I decided to dig out the old cowboy hat that my mother had studded with rhinestones when I dressed as Macho Man Randy Savage for Halloween way back in the day. I put baby oil on my chest, and strategically hid my smart phone behind the fan. So when my wife started getting undressed, I cued up Savage's theme and made my grand, naked entrance, twirling my finger and promising to take her to the Danger Zone. Approximately thirty-eight minutes later, I shouted "Ooooh Yeah!" at an inappropriate time, and she fell over laughing. Dig it!

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  42. He was out for like almost all of 2013 though. Comes back and is still boring.

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  43. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonNovember 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM

    Did you have your wife dress up as a young Stephanie or Elizabeth?

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  44. It is odd to shout 'OOOH YEAH!' while on the toilet 20 minutes after intercourse.

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  45. Theberzerker! HUSS!November 21, 2014 at 8:29 AM

    #HUSSAPPROVED

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  46. The smiley baby face roll they forced upon him in 2012 killed him.

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  47. Biff Kensington IIINovember 21, 2014 at 8:29 AM

    The post-business bathroom break was magical.

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  48. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonNovember 21, 2014 at 8:30 AM

    he should have been the Irish Nikita Koloff instead of the Irish Cena.

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  49. 1-800-FELLA

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  50. Not the strongest pool.... some good ones coming over the weekend.

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  51. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonNovember 21, 2014 at 8:30 AM

    I liked that when he took his face first bump he never put his hand up to catch himself.

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  52. Theberzerker! HUSS!November 21, 2014 at 8:31 AM

    She fell over after you finished? Kinky.

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  53. FELLLLLLLLA!!!

    Constantly saying Fella is killing him with the fan base. And the smiling. Mostly the fella.

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  54. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonNovember 21, 2014 at 8:31 AM

    He liked to do it while wearing a sweater and listening to jazz music.

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  55. Biff Kensington IIINovember 21, 2014 at 8:32 AM

    Come to think of it, going by Summerslam '88, she was doing an Elizabeth routine.

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  56. I was watching some 2013 clips of him in his feud with Sandow. Sandow would have these really funny and clever little bits, involving some trick or ruse, and then dumb meathead Sheamus would come out and just ruin them, every time. I hate Sheamus.

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  57. Track down his house show matches with Tito.... there was an awesome MSG one in 84 and LA one in 88.

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  58. King of the Ring Sheamus was the best Sheamus. Especially after comparing himself to Brian Boru.

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  59. Sheamus workin' the surgeons. I see you playa.

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  60. If you can think of a better word that rhymes with Philadelphia, I'd like to hear it.

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  61. By the way, rhyming Philadelphia with Philadelphia? BRILLIANT.

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  62. Biff Kensington IIINovember 21, 2014 at 8:35 AM

    To me, the whole NXT program has been going on way too long now. It feels like they keep pussy-footing around with Zayn, and he's kind of portrayed as the guy who never wins anything important. I liked the storyline initially, but it's dragging on to the point where the faux-perception of Zayn as a choker starts to become the actual perception.

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  63. I'm choosing to believe she always falls over laughing at his performance.

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  64. Biff Kensington IIINovember 21, 2014 at 8:36 AM

    My performances are legendary. We're talking Ultimate Warrior territory.

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  65. Pedophilia? (close enough)

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  66. Biff Kensington IIINovember 21, 2014 at 8:37 AM

    I think Prince Devitt and Kenta could conspire to create the best tag team the WWE has seen in years. So naturally they'll bring Devitt in to partner with Sheamus as his 'little buddy', then turn him and feed him in six months when they bore of the pair.

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  67. Damn, that poor woman. 22 seconds and done is no way to treat her, good sir.

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  68. It could have been a punishment for Neidhart as he owed McMahon a lot of money from a lawsuit involving an airline stewardess. Or a way to get Jim off TV so he could be a commentator.

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  69. Actually, he was already a commentator at the time, then that Beverly Brothers beatdown after the match led to the New Foundation. #WrestlingNerd

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  70. Something about blowing up on the way to the ring? Someone better at comedy do it.

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  71. Theberzerker! HUSS!November 21, 2014 at 8:40 AM

    And the paint flecks. Just, everywhere.

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  72. Premature ejaculation is no joking matter, sir.

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  73. Shit, I messed that up:


    It's no joking matter, until it happens to someone else.

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  74. Yeah...blown up on the way to the bedroom with nonsensical dirty talk. Not the best comparison.

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  75. Theberzerker! HUSS!November 21, 2014 at 8:42 AM

    Yeah. I get that they want to have stars there for people to keep watching, but at the end of the day your farm league needs to have a graduation point, or everyone in it just looks like a choker in the end.

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  76. One good thing about premature ejaculation is that porn lasts you a very long time. I bought a video back in 1992 and I still haven't made it past that FBI warning thing.

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  77. So...only she can see you in the mirror?

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  78. so you blow up after 2 minutes?

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  79. random question - Did Flair or Hogan ever work with Bruno? I know they're not from the same era, but there was at least some overlap in their careers

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  80. I know Hogan was in a battle royale Bruno was in

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  81. Problem was he took about a half hour to really get warmed up, but all his matches were shorter than that.

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  82. THIS CLOSE to an unruly laugh in the call center. Well done.

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  83. Random thought: Watching Agent Of Vengeance: Dark Rising on Netflix right now.

    Why isn't Andrew Cymek directing A-list movies? All of his movies have been good.

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  84. Lazy Google search says no to Flair/Bruno. Same answer to Hogan/Bruno.

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  85. The trio of Chad Gable, Angelo Dawkins, and Sawyer Fulton will be an amateur wrestling trio know as "Shoot Nation."

    That's so inside. KAYFABE IS BROKEN!

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  86. I'm probably the only person who feels this way, but I actually started to like some of the comedy stuff they were doing with him and...was it ADR that was suing him or something? I remember they did a bit in a lawyer's office and everyone thought it was awful, and I actually thought Sheamus was pretty funny in it.
    But yeah, generally speaking he fell victim to being Cena-adjace. He was Irish Cena, Reigns is Samoan Cena, Punk had become Hot Topic Cena, etc.

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  87. http://cheezburger.com/8380563200



    Lana's next sweater.

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  88. You aren't serious, are you?

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  89. Putting WrestleMania 5 in shitty Trump Plaza was such a waste. The Mega Powers could have packed a major stadium.

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  90. Closest I can find:
    August 29, 1987 - Hogan and Bruno tagged to face King Kong
    Bundy & One Man Gang in Maryland.

    Incidentally, it was Bruno's last match in WWF ring.

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  91. they should call them the new varsity club. I know it is a little thing but I simply don't care for the nod to breaking kayfabe on screen. Those days are over and yeah it was cool when HBK and Bret were shooting on each other, but it's played out and I much prefer a strict kayfabe on screen.

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  92. Not all that familiar with the song actually. But, a phrase ending with "help ya" could work. Like "no one's gonna help ya"

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  93. Here here. Yeah I guess WWF got paid some kind of upfront fee for doing them in AC, but good God the atmosphere for Mania 4 and 5 was awful. Wrestlemania 4 especially you felt like the crowd didn't know who almost any of the wrestlers were.

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  94. Bret and Shawn never really broke kayfabe even when they were shooting, which was good of them. Shawn's contract saying he's always in the main event, Bret fucking Sunny, I don't think any of the things they said actually gave the impression wrestling was fake, it just added personal stuff to the storylines.

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  95. trump paid a shitload for it though, probably making Vince more money off that venue than a major stadium. Plus, despite WM3, Vince wasn't sold yet that WM could sell out a stadium every year without a once in a lifetime match like Hogan/Andre. Remember while the megapowers storyline was extra awesome, Savage and Hogan had done plenty of matches around the horn in 85 and 86.

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  96. I had a girlfriend that dressed like Kamala. Turns out she had a chemical imbalance in her brain.


    I was okay with it, but I still don't think she should've let Kim Chee stand in the corner of the room when we made love.

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  97. Although actually I JUST remembered Shawn and Hunter playing the "Curtain Call" on the Titantron and going "I was a good guy! You were a bad guy! How did this happen?!" which kinda was a little.

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  98. Shawn said you needed a note from the almighty himself to get Bret to lose the belt. That's as kayfabe breaking as it gets.

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  99. True, they couldn't always fill up the LA Coliseum like they did in 1991. *ahem*

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  100. Hell yeah, I'm serious.

    Dark Rising is one of the funniest horror movies of the last 10 years.

    Dark Rising, Medium Raw: Night Of The Wolf and Agent Of Vengeance: Dark Rising have all had solid special effects, genuinely funny dialogue and better acting than 90% of the horror movies of the past decade. Plus he's exposed the world to the criminally underrated talent of Landy Cannon (the best sarcastic straight laced actor to hit B-movies since Peter Liapis).

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  101. Another great one was "I've seen you on the road, and buddy, you ain't no role model!"



    Reading Bret's book 10 years later, that comment REALLY stood out.

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  102. They need a weirdo manager. Huh, are there any weirdos running around the WWE?

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  103. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAorIG6MZnc



    if he ever gets charged with anything, you know the prosecution will play that at his trial

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  104. TERRORISTS!

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  105. Would that someone like Punk or Heyman would've dared use that line on Cena.

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  106. He also said Bret was a bad guy backstage even though he played a good guy. It was way more kayfabe breaking than the NWO, he was also doing some shooty type stuff. Along with Pillman, for which the IWC (as small as it was at the time) blew it's collective wad in 96, this really set the course for what occurred in WCW under Ruso, where, as Scott says, "everything you are watching is fake, except for what's on right now, which is real!!!"

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  107. How so? ALL the young ladies loved the Hitman!

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  108. see Punk's pipe bomb promo was a great way to be "shootish" but not break kayfabe. Everything he said could be explained in kayfabe. It really was brilliant, while at the same time exciting the smark fan who loves shoot comments.

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  109. I wonder had they just gone the obvious route, the Hogan/Warrior rematch, if it would have sold a lot. I would sure as hell wanted to see it, to see if Warrior's win was a fluke, or if he really was better.

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  110. Pillman kayfabed like hell, though. He worked the boys. Russo saw and loved what Pillman was doing but didn't understand it.

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  111. Pillman kayfabe the boys but wrestling a pencil? Screaming about bookerman? All his other stuff in ECW? All kayfabe breaking. Pillman kaybfabe the locker room while shooting in front of the fans.

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  112. I don't think that would have been bad but it would have robbed us of Warrior-Savage and the theatrics that followed.

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  113. Totally. There was nothing in there that said "these matches are fake", just him calling the executives assholes and the other wrestlers kiss-asses and such.

    The amazing part of the pipe bomb is that it's pretty clear WWE expected Punk to become this megaheel from it and the crowd would galvanize around Cena wanting to kick his ass for saying such mean stuff about WWE, when in the end it turned Punk face and kinda fucked up the whole storyline.

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  114. I still can't believe that Bret Hart of all people let Michaels make some of those comments.

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  115. The only beef I had was Punk always saying he was the best, while the mark in me kept thinking "Then why did you lose your last 4 major feuds, against Taker, Rey, Big Show and Orton?" But that's a small nitpick, great promo.

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  116. Isn't it more because amateur wrestlers are called shooters and not shoot in the sense of breaking kayfabe?

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  117. yep. With Bret/Shawn, Michaels crossed the line when he talked about refusing to job the belt. I could have even handled the "Bret is a bad guy" stuff if he said it like, "You guys think Bret is a hero, but to me he's a bad guy in the lockerroom." Slight difference, same point, but doesn't insinuate that Bret is a character playing a role, but rather fans have accepted a real person as a hero but HBK think's he a jerk in the lockerroom. Breaking kayfabe and making shoot comments can be a real subtle thing and it is often a fine line.

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  118. it's especially weird since it really seems like they are trying to "damage" him on purpose (maybe I am overestimating this but for example Sami Zayn will be the first guy that's not on the main roster that has an action figure in the works. so I assume the company has a very high opinion of him).

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  119. WHERE?!!! SEND UNDERCLASS PEOPLE TO A COUNTRY OUR SCHOOLS DIDN'T TEACH THEM ABOUT UNTIL I FEEL SAFE!!!!!!

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  120. confidence. No different than a boxing or UFC promo. I've heard guys like Uriah Faber go on about being the best while having lost his last 4 title matches.

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  121. That's what I was about to say. It's "shoot style wrestling," not "everything you're seeing is fake except this right now." It's still a little inside baseball, but it doesn't bother me.

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  122. I think that can easily excused because he was a heel at that point. and what heel doesn't claim he is the best (even if he got beat just ten minutes earlier?).

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  123. And I think that's the problem. I only really remembered him from that run too and if I hadn't seen msg house show on the old 24/7 where he had this crazy match with Bob Backlund I would have never known he was good at one point. By 88 valentine really had nothing left but just a few years before he was having amazing matches. He was !maybe even the best guy in the company. He was having killer matches with Tito Santana, snuka (where it was all valentine) and a lot of other guys. I just wonder if he'd be remembered more if he spent 1980-1986 in the nwa where he would have had more guys to work with and where the fans appreciated good wrestling?

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  124. Yeah that is another way to look at it. I guess I was thinking about it in the way that (allegedly) Fabulous Moolah was shooting on Wendi Richter when she took the belt. But when you put it that way it fits with the Punk pipe bomb promo of having double meaning and giving a bone to the smarks that love them that stuff

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  125. Under the radar dream match: 1990 Scott Steiner vs 1990 Big Bossman.

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  126. That's random. But they did have a great match around 1998, when Steiner had just turned heel, and was clotheslined into the spring break pool.

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  127. I can easily see Punk himself thinking it would turn out with him being the heel as well. I mean, it seems to be a sort of a "remake" of his ROH angle, which worked out much better (in terms of initial face/heel alignment) despite the crowd being "smarks".

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  128. Because shoot or not, everyone should know its fake anyways.

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  129. 1990/91 Bossman was really great. Why did he drop so fast after the run with Perfect? Seemed like he was poised to be a top tier babyface. Too goofy of a gimmick I guess?

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  130. Jesse calling Joey Marella an idiot right next to Gorilla is all the lulz.

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  131. WWE setting the trend before terroism was the "in" thing.

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  132. You wouldn't believe how much I say "You are a zero, my hero" Seriously, I say it way too much.

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  133. Something slightly related to that, There's a heel in the local indy fed that I go to, his real life dad was in the stands and applauding him, and he basically told his dad "SIT DOWN, AND SHUT UP!!" We all got a laugh, it was probably the only time he could tell that to his dad and get away with it.

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  134. He had that great feud with the Mountie. Didn't he also do something with DiBiase? That Nailz feud killed him.

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  135. "Shut up old man before I kick your ass!"

    Must've been a fun car ride home.

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  136. Yeah that was when ADR was trying to have his Brouge kick outlawed and Sheamus was being deposed for using it on Ricardo. Great angle.

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  137. Funny thing is, he's more of a cruiserweight, while his dad looks more like a wrestler than him, he clearly goes to the gym. He could have definitely "taken him to the woodshed".

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  138. What a front runner!

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  139. Please tell me it was David Flair.

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  140. He was pretty much gone after that feud too. Next was WCW where he had about 50 different names.

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  141. Right! Mountie was Summerslam 91. That was great, and then by Mania 8 wasn't he just in some "get everyone on the card 10-man tag"? Seems like a pretty steep drop in a short time.

    91/92 was a weird time in how many big stars WWF had on the roster, and not too far from their primes, but yet it all seemed kinda underwhelming.

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  142. not the point. will Smith doesn't do promos in his movies that expose that he is in fact in a movie. Its all treated as real (with obvious exceptions like Last Action Hero, Monty Python, Kentucky Fried movie, or Amazon Women on the Moon that break the 4th wall). I prefer my wrestling the same way, even though I admit I marked out for the early shoot stuff before learning to hate it as it became so out of control with Russo.

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  143. I think he meant he was the best PERFORMER in the world.

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  144. But not before putting over Bigelow.

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  145. And he had 1 match with the newcomer Doink after that (great little match actually), and... I think that was his final appearance.

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  146. Damn it... Photo finish please?? Who beat who to it?

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  147. He was very good when he went back to WCW in 94 with that dumb Guardian Angel gimmick. I think his 3 way feud with Vader and Sting led to his best matches ever.

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  148. Yep. Totally agree with your comment below about Punk's promo (and that kind of thing in general) totally working within kayfabe. That's the template for how to walk that line.

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  149. I don't know if Punk and Bryan could keep a 6 month feud going, especially one where the same guy wins every match. Lazy booking to stretch that out so long.

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  150. Yeah it's been said before, but that 92 Rumble seemed like it had every big star of the generation aside from Warrior. Really strange how WWF was starting to turn ice cold right when the roster seemed its most stacked.

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  151. Plus Shawn was supposed to be the biggest dickhead on the planet at that point. It didn't come off as kayfabe breaking, just something a dickhead would say to his enemy.

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  152. "Is it a shoot or a botch?" - Caliber Winfield

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  153. Football TJ: My fighting Rammies are playing a huge game this weekend and I'm basically deeming this the most important one they've played since the Week 17 disaster in Seattle to close the 2010 season. With a win, they could put themselves in position for a winning season, which seemed improbable three months ago. That said, I'm fully expecting them to lose in some stupid fashion. All the money is coming on Rams +4.5 which tells me San Diego is a lock to win.

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  154. I think the actual Guardian Angles threatened to sue, but after that they just fucked around his gimmick over and over. Even still I think he's a great example of a guy who thrived because there were two places to work.

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  155. Whose bright idea was it to book a double count out finish for DiBiase/Beefcake? Oh yeah, the same guy who booked it for Miz/Cena.

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  156. What kind of pussy gang threatens to sue? Would the sons of anarchy threaten to sue? Or would they just leave Ray Traylor in a ditch somewhere?

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  157. Yeah totally, and it was booked so backwards where the feud started with the face kicking the heel's ass multiple times with no problem, and THEN the heel does something dickish (the brogue kick lawsuit) like 3 months in after we've long stopped caring about him. Shouldn't the story start with the heel doing something dickish and then the face wanting revenge? Not saying they needed to start with ADR winning the belt, but at least something to make Sheamus fight from underneath.

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  158. WresleMania Brunch> WrestleMania Axxess.

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  159. haha, I just learned about the movie "Wild Hogs" 6 days ago, and learned 3 days ago that the Hells Angels sued Disney for trying to use their name. Good timing!

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  160. That was weird, as Dibiase was feuding with Hercules... So of course Wrestlemania ends up being Herc/Haku, and Dibiase/Beefcake.

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  161. the WM 8 brunch annoyed me as a kid, as they had Jake Roberts sitting right next to Rick Martel. The guy who blinded him just a year prior!

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  162. I don't think saying a guy's public persona is phony is even necessarily kayfabe-breaking, though. We've seen athletes and other entertainers who had beef with each other say things like that plenty of times.

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  163. The brunch got too violent for my tastes.

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  164. "Bacon, Bagels and Biceps" might be the most badass name for a Sunday brunch ever. That name just screams testosterone fueled manliness.

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  165. True. I feel like going to a buffet for lunch, but I'm afraid i'll get knocked out by a steel plated forearm.

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  166. Gunther the Nasty LoserNovember 21, 2014 at 9:35 AM

    That was Meekin

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  167. Question for the blog...who's the best North American wrestler right now? I'm curious what the blog thinks since you guys watch entirely different wrestling than I do.

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  168. I hate when murderous outlaw biker gangs go all corporate, man.

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  169. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©November 21, 2014 at 9:36 AM

    "What's he doing eating eggs.....AND pizza?!"

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  170. The Guardian Angles are just some pussy neighborhood watch thing. Fucking grown men wearing berets and calling the police on people!

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  171. And then they called him The Boss and WWF sued right? HAHAHA fucking WCW. Then they just gave up with the cop thing and called him Big Bubba, right? Which is what they just should have done initially and presented him as a bad ass instead of a fucking pussy ass Guardian Angel.

    But yeah man, it sucks so fucking much that there's nowhere else for guys to go and have a somewhat equivalent pay/exposure as WWE. It's fucking crazy that guys like Dolph and Kofi and Cesaro will just go the rest of their careers as WWE job boys instead of being able to go to a WCW and have awesome runs.

    Christ, look at how awesome Rick Rude became in WCW, meanwhile if that were today he'd be in WWE forever and become so fucking tired.

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  172. There could easily be a tie for 4. I would suggest a Mount Rushmore thread.

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  173. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©November 21, 2014 at 9:36 AM

    Zayn is my choice.

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  174. "Do I shoot the grandma?"
    "Is she evil?"

    Loving the dialogue in Dark Rising 2.

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  175. I don't know much about indies, but at the moment I'd say it's close between Zayn, Rollins and Johnny Mundo.

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  176. He actually started as the Boss, then they did the Guardian angels thing after the WWF lawsuit. Poor guy, kept getting sued.

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  177. Oh yeah even as a kid in the 80s in NYC I always thought they were a total joke. I couldn't imagine any actual thug gave half a shit about comitting a crime in front of those dorks, they'd probably taunt them and shit during.

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  178. Gunther the Nasty LoserNovember 21, 2014 at 9:38 AM

    He did do a promo on Fresh Prince once where Uncle Phil was yelling at him and he took the remote control and turned him "off" with it, then turned to the camera and said, "Don't you wish you lived on TV"?

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  179. I seriously have no idea how the wwe can be so bad at this?

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  180. Also "If we're so rich... " *camera pans up* Why don't we have a ceiling?



    And Carlton going crazy on every stage after Will made him think Lisa was killed. And probably a few more too.

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  181. Dolph ZIggler.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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  182. Gunther the Nasty LoserNovember 21, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    HEY JOBBER

    Do you do cock magic?

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  183. Sounds like a great tough guy gimmick for a wrestler. :/

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  184. Vince Russo was in the audience?

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  185. Itami and Balor haven't done enough to yet be considered, and I'm pretty sure you were asking this question in terms of pure worker, no? Because if we're talking all-around performer, Rollins would probably be the only one of those guys I'd leave on the list.

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  186. The part that gets me is he goes to the WWF and they give him swat style gear and dude looks swag as fuck. He could've pulled off a Shield style gimmick.

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  187. Ricochet is insanely good. I might go with him

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  188. Gunther the Nasty LoserNovember 21, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    Another one was he was sneaking into the house one evening while Uncle Phil and Aunt Viv were asleep on the couch, and as he got to the top of the stairs he thought he was in the clear, so he turned to the camera and started dancing while music played.

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  189. I'll post it!

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  190. Interesting you'd pick Mundo. My pick is Ricochet, aka Prince Puma in Lucha Underground. He's had an incredible year in DGUSA, PWG, and NJPW.

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