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Triple H Ego issues

Hey Scott, the podcasts that have been released with Punk have painted Hunter in a pretty unflattering light, more so than the previous years.  There seems to be a pretty big pattern looking back at his career that paints him as a pretty insecure man that just has to insert himself as the center of some attention.  Examples include:

- Two straight WrestleMania (sub-par) matches with the Undertaker following the previous two (good) matches between Shawn and Taker

- Inserting himself in the Summer of Punk that led to a Kevin Nash feud that lit nothing on fire and led to no resolution for Punk

- Continuously being put in the same star level of Austin and the Rock (not that he wasn't good back then, but he is nowhere near their caliber)

- Pinning and burying Hurricane immediately after Helms pinned Rocky in a comedy "Feud", because Hunter

- Awarding himself a World Championship and burying various people in the process

- Wrestling Brock Lesnar in a trilogy of so-so matches, just because

- Acting like the cool guy in either heel or face mode and pretty much belittling anything during promos.

- The twenty minute promos that he made a chore to sit through for years, again because Hunter

Too many more I left out for the attention.  You can tell the insecurity in him considering that we keep hearing that no one wants to approach him backstage because of how he was more or less publicly punked out by Punk.  I think the most telling moments of ego that I can think of at the top of my head are these two.

- At the end of Thy Kingdom Come they spend the last ten minutes of the documentary saying how much of a reat person/wrestler he is.  Seriously, they spend ten minutes singing his praises, like they have to keep his ego up.

- The end of Wrestling with Shadows where he smugly says he has nothing to do with the Screwjob and gets verbally torn down by JUlie Hart.  I remember noticing HHH just sort of became quiet in a way that reminds when a kid is told off by his mom.

thoughts?

​This is a pretty grossly misrepresented and biased look at HHH's career.

I mean, clearly the Undertaker matches were damn good. ​

Comments

  1. Halloween Havoc 96? Weren't they talking about the Clash the next night???

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  2. The Clash was Megapowers v. Flair & Giant the next night.

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  3. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonDecember 5, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    What about pinning the WCW Champ and ECW Champ just to prove who was the best?
    He also beat RVD who unified the Hardcore, Euro and IC belts.

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  4. Tremendous. That Clash main event was such a pile of garbage too.

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  5. And no video game ads where it shows the HHH character at a disadvantage. Just wow.

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  6. HHH has a big ego? Next you'll tell how you would've rebooked the Invasion

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  7. They say the bigger nose you have the bigger your ego will be.

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  8. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonDecember 5, 2014 at 5:52 PM

    THAT explains why Woody Woodpecker was such a dick.

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  9. Have the announcers officially dropped the "he has all the tools to be a future world champion" bit from their Titus O'Neil talking points?

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  10. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    Weird that I heard Miz's voice in Rollins.

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  11. I'll give you Holland and Germany.

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  12. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    It's good to take a night off. Not only will you liver thank you, but the girls will notice your absence and think "where's the Kid?" Sometimes the best action is no action at all.

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  13. Pro Wrestling absolutely does not fall under SAG rules, some wrestlers have gone out and become SAG members of course but that's all.

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  14. Savage brings out a harem of women, including Linda Hogan, Debra, and Nancy Sullivan
    Banging every chick you can is such a freshly divorced man move. I believe the Randy vs Liz divorce angle was made for Russo to write.

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  15. It's Lil Wayne......

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  16. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:05 PM

    JBL is a legend?

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  17. Put in charge by whom? Why would anyone put a barely on tv mid carder in charge of a top tv program?

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  18. Hmm, that's weird. I'd never really thought about it before, but I don't see why RAW or Smackdown or Impact wouldn't fall under SAG rules. They're actors delivering lines on cameras and performing stunts.

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  19. I didn't say Rock/Cena 2 was indefensible...I said that it was not a well-worked match, with a half-assed storyline that bored the live crowd to apathy and there were actually quite a few better alternatives

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  20. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:06 PM

    Because they don't think people watch said program?

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  21. Isn't that what Sundays are for?

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  22. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:07 PM

    Not really... The sex is great, everything else is a complete pain in the ass. As soon as I find another broad I'm out. Came close once, but this bitch was getting a little too stalkerish and I ran like hell.

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  23. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:07 PM

    And that too.

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  24. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    Sunday is the day where I get really torqued.

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  25. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    For all the latest medical scoop, call Surgeon General C. Everett Koop.


    Poo poo da-doop.

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  26. If it weren't for the mention of recent events, I'd think this email was from 2003. Talk about flogging a dead horse.

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  27. The SAG basic contract specifies: the number of hours performers may work, the frequency of meal breaks required, the minimum wages or "scale" at which performers must be compensated for their work, overtime pay, travel accommodations, wardrobe allowances, stunt pay, private dressing rooms, and adequate rest periods between performances.



    Yeah it sure is "weird" why WWE hasn't joined up.

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  28. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    I see the phrase IC Title, and I think that Haley Joel Osmen (or however it's spelled). Sees titles that no one sees.

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  29. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM

    In all fairness, they're right.


    (I assume you're talking about Smackdown. If not, disregard this)

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  30. We are kinda being more serious now.

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  31. As is the (true, but incongruent) point about him beating Helms in the middle of a list of recent happenings.

    This is the thing: HHH has obvious insecurity issues, which is probably why Vince gravitated to him once he got to know him. The good news for fans is that Vince's issues manifest in CELEBRITY GUEST HOSTS NEXT WEEK ON RAW and movies while HHH's manifest as him taking over developmental and signing what he feels are the world's best talents (something the Internet 90% agrees with him on).

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  32. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonDecember 5, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    I agree. Punk was the logical choice.

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  33. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Your assumption is right.

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  34. Yeah. It's 2014 and you've never met the guy. Let it go.

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  35. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    This is a different Abeyance I've been seeing. Your level of snark has increased somewhat lately.

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  36. I liked the WM27 match.
    Anyone remember summer of 99 when most of us were complaining about Austin hold HHH down? I thnk the dynamic would have worked better with the roles reversed. keep HHH face and turn Austin in the sprint. Then do the match at Summerslam or whatever. HHH could have turned heel later for the Rocky feud. I think it would have solved a lot of booking issues they had at the time.

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  37. This. I cannot believe people still cling to the "HHH SHOVEL LOL" meme when the past 18 months have been him looking like a fucking goober.

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  38. Let's not forget that Vince, too, is an insecure dude who likes to undermine wrestlers from other promotions (the Invasion, anyone?). It's very possible that it was his idea for Trips to go over Benoit and Tazz, although I doubt HHH was kicking and screaming at the idea.

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  39. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    What can I say, the blog has run off a bit on me.

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  40. Again, Scott's time machine e-mail inbox working as this was obviously sent from 2003

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  41. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    That was the first match since... fuck, probably since the idea of "The Streak" started that I thought there was even the remote chance in hell of Taker jobbing.

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  42. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:12 PM

    It's like I don't even know you anymore.

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  43. I feel for chefs. They can hardly have social lives and when they want to get piss drunk, nobody else really can because of work/school*.


    *- One of my buddies is a chef, who's drinking day is Tuesdays.

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  44. unfortunately I believe this would have seemed that far-fetched.

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  45. The only match I thought Taker was gonna lose was the HBK retirement match.

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  46. I'm still sad we didn't see heel Austin versus babyface Trips in 2001. That could've been great, but a torn quad killed the feud right before it began.

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  47. Oh yeah and don't forget about his 99 revamp with his personal harem. Clearly the man was having some testosterone related insecurities.

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  48. HHH is a second-tier star who has an office job, so he's presented as more than he actually ever was. We know this.

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  49. 3,054,000 viewers last friday night.

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  50. I understand why WWE wouldn't want to fall under the SAG umbrella. I'm saying I thought there was some minimum set of requirements that if your TV program meets them, then you have to hire SAG workers.

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  51. Like his buddy Shawn, except HBK (one of the lowest-drawing top guys in company history) is more of a third-tier star than a second-tier one.

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  52. The emailer is a homo!

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  53. Holy shit I just burnt the fuck out of my index trying to turn off one of the blubs on those stupid electric Christmas candles. I don't even want these gay fucking things in my windows. They are all about to get tossed in the fucking trash

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  54. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM

    Just some advice: the chicks that you look at think "Oh, it's nice to meet a broad that's not fucking nuts"? They're the craziest ones of all of them.

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  55. I thought he was going to lose to Kane at WM14, and to HHH in one of their WM meetings.

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  56. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Because they don't give the show the same "importance" as they do with Raw.

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  57. The story of how I met her is funny.

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  58. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM

    Bah humbug, Jobber. Merry Christmas, motherfucker!

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  59. I don't get the praise for the WM 27 match. I remember sitting there watching it bored because I never once felt that the Streak was in jeopardy. When HHH hit the Tombstone I actually said out loud "You're not Kane. That's not going to work." It's not like it was impossible to make me believe the Streak was in trouble though as the WM 25 match had me jumping off my couch at the near falls. The Cell match was great though and I totally bought the Streak dying after the superkick into the Pedigree.

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  60. Or his dumbness is way up.

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  61. Yeah but HBK has the distinction of being the best goddamn performer of all-time, low-drawing or not.

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  62. Disagree with him being the best.

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  63. Better run, I'm here.

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  64. I thought Randy" The Legend Killer" Orton had a good chance at Mania XXI.


    They really botched Randy's babyface world title run in fall 2004 so i thought a win over Taker could have been in the cards.


    Hell if he didn't get hurt i think that may have been the plan.

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  65. Based on all the horror stories and my endless profiling knowledge gained from Law & Order, Savage is the personification of the insecure man with performance problems.

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  66. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:18 PM

    Yeah, as I know all too well, cooking for a living totally fucks up your social life. Fortunately I'm a pretty anti-social guy to begin with. Though I just found out today I'm working New Years Eve. Fuck...

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  67. xmas is cool but fuck those things. I'm seriously tossing them all. There are some clear lights on my terrace around the plants and shit, but these tacky ass cornball dangerous things are going in the dumpster now.

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  68. I remember when Goldust and Cody won the tag titles from The Shield on RAW last year. The pop was huge as it was rare for The Shield to be beat. But instead of Goldust and Cody getting to raise the titles in a monumental victory, HHH runs in, shoves them aside like garbage and mean-stares The Big Show to end the show.

    And those Undertaker matches fucking sucked. 45 minutes of two old dudes throwing chair shots and lying around.

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  69. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    IIRC he was supposed to lose at 17, but Shawn showed up wasted and fucked everything up.

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  70. I do wish H had ended the streak in a way, because that would be some super heeling, and also I just didn't like TEH STREAK!!!!!!!!!!!! as a gimmick.

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  71. Well Raw averaged 3.88 Million viewers this week so the whole "Nobody watches Smackdown" trope is pretty stupid to continually regurgitate.

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  72. God forbid a wrestler is praised in their DVD!

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  73. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    That power bomb could have been cool.

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  74. Dude this is on my right hand and I have a game in the morning. I'll cancel fucking Christmas in this house if my shot is fucked up tomorrow man. How could those fucking things be so hot???

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  75. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    Don't start a dumpster fire with those things. Also, it isn't Christmas without somebody somewhere having an expletive-laden tirade about putting up the lights.

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  76. I loved both of them to be honest. halfway into the WM 27 one, I was thinking "it's a good try, but it just can't top the 2 HBK matches". near the end, they had me marking out like a maniac.

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  77. Jesus, I am so sick of people saying that HHH awarded himself the World Championship.




    Eric Bischoff awarded him the World Championship.

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  78. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    It usually is.

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  79. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    Well, lets hear it.

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  80. Yes, plus that was the entire point. he was SUPPOSED to get heel heat from it. Sheesh!

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  81. I look at influence and impact as well. How many young wrestlers did Shawn Michaels inspire to become wrestlers? Many. HHH? Well, I'm sure there's one or two somewhere on the planet.

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  82. What happened to our innocent little doe-eyed Abeyance?

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  83. While it might be hard to tell without knowing HHH personally if the guy is insecure, there's certainly no doubt that the E-mailer is.

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  84. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Stupid question, but are you high?

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  85. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    Nice little subtle attention to detail by having the cobra in Santino's pocket.

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  86. At least he didn't call him Paul Levesque the whole email.

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  87. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:22 PM

    http://www.troll.me/images/finger-santa/merry-fucking-christmas.jpg

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  88. The problem is is that smarks are ADD-riddled morons who can't watch a slower-paced heavyweight match. 27 was at least a ***3/4 kinda match, at worst.

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  89. These fucking faggot ass piece of shit fucked up white trash electric chirstmas candle bulbs. Fucking stupid ass fucking pieces of shit.

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  90. I have no problem with him beating the champs of 2 dying companies. And about RVD, to be fair, RVD had the match won, and Flair officially turned heel to save Hunter's butt. But revisionist history has him winning clean with 3 pedigrees and a foot on the chest for some reason.

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  91. I had one of those incandescent fuckers fall over onto my bare leg once. Burned me like hell.

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  92. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    Dude, I can't help but laugh at you, not with you.

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  93. Best Intercontinental title match in which neither competitor was a future (or past) world champion?

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  94. Absolute shit finish.


    Who the hell's the road agents nowadays? Is there an official list?


    Cause they are the fucking pits.

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  95. Let me guess: You used these last year, you stuffed them in a box or drawer, and now they're all tangled up and hazardous a year later?

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  96. Nah not yet, I just walked in the door but they had all these dumb shit candles just on the edge of the terrace and I'm all "This looks stupid and I'll turn it off" and it burned me bad dude. To top that, mens league playoffs tomorrow morning. I'm so pissed.

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  97. The handing over of the title in 2003 to HHH was just awful. It failed. No one took it seriously and he didnt get much heat for it either.

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  98. Oh, I'm not arguing that Trips is a better performer than Shawn. Just that there are better performers than Shawn (Austin and Savage come to mind) and as a result, I don't consider him the best.

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  99. DUDE these things are fucking dangerous. I never knew how hot they were.

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  100. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:25 PM

    Has to be one of the Tito Santana-Greg Valentine MSG matches. I can't think of many IC champs that didn't go on to be world champ.

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  101. You know what the best part of Christmas is? The rape you can get away with.

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  102. Does Tito's ECW Title reign count as a world title?

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  103. It was 2002. And Trips was pretty over during that reign, though obviously not up to his 2000-2001 height.

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  104. Also, i love the contrast that it was a "fake world title", but after he successfully gave it credibility by having long reigns, by the time Benoit won it, it was OMG BENOIT IS THE CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!!

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  105. I was in the party made for the new batch of students, I realized that she was looking at me for awhile. So I decided wait until the DJ started playing funk( google up brazilian funk, it's garbage but women get crazy when it plays), so here I am looking for her and she appears standing on a bench.


    Then talks to me:


    Anna:Are you John?
    Me:Yes
    Anna: Did you know I think you're cute?
    ME: Oh, thanks. What's you're name?
    Anna: Anna Luiza
    Me: So, I really think you're cute too.


    Then I threw my cup of beer away, kissed her. My friends saw it and started screaming my name.

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  106. I've never owned or a set up a worthless xmas decoration in my life. Fuck that cheesy shit man, at least in my house. But yeah my gf just set all this shit up and the lights on the plants outside is fine but these candles in the windows and shit are already in the trash can. I don't know if these were used last year but they are going down to the dumpster and never getting used again unless some homeless dude fishes them out and uses them to light his crack pipe or something.

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  107. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    I don't even know what Santinos purpose is in this film.

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  108. HHH vs UT at WM17 >>>>> their other WM matches

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  109. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:27 PM

    Because... why?

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  110. I loved the announcers pretending that match never happened.

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  111. Christmas is just a rapey holiday.

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  112. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:28 PM

    Cena, a superhero? Sounds about right.

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  113. He was not over during that reign. That was not a good time for the WWE at all.

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  114. Someone's got sand in their vagina.

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  115. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:28 PM

    Also, the Rikishi/Val Venis cage match at Fully Loaded 2000 was pretty good.

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  116. OH YAY! Lets have a fucking worthless holiday where they put up hot lights all over the place you can get burned on to celebrate something that didn't even really happen in the first place. YAY this is so awesome, now my finger is burnt!!!! Oh goodie, someone will give me a fucking tie I could have bought for myself if I wanted and wrap in some paper that will just end up clogging up space in a landfill. Yay what a great holiday.

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  117. I think I'm turning into the Tracy Morgan of this place.

    Adam Curry my uncle!

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  118. Who are you to question El Dandy (Road Dogg is El, Billy Gunn is Dandy)?

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  119. I just posted this in my review but here is a JYD promo on how he is not going to blow cocaine anymore while he is high as fuck.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-qobhqHoo4

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  120. A coworker once gave me a "gift certificate" to have him draw me.

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  121. There's a bit of revisionist history with the Brock push, too. I'd say Brock wasn't properly over until he won the Rumble, or thereabouts.

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  122. It was obvious HBK was going to retire. You honestly thought Taker would lose?

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  123. Ricky Steamboat's a former world champ. Well future champ at the time.

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  124. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    Sounds like a donation to the Human Fund in your name would have been a better gift.

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  125. No, this is not true. It's been debunked over and over.

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  126. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:31 PM

    It means that WWE is running out of stipulation ideas.

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  127. It remained uncashed in and the guys contract eventually ran out. And then he had a stroke.

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  128. Brock wasnt really even on top long enough to "get over" when you think about it.

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  129. Is it at all possible Hogan was simply planting seeds here for his eventual heel turn.. to make it all the easier for fans to boo him?


    The answer is of course no, but at least it would have explained a lot of this garbage.

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  130. Tables, Ladders, Chairs, and Stairs is actual a Full Metal Mayhem match in TNA.

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  131. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonDecember 5, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    The one they fucked was Edge. He was undefeated the year before he went against the Undertaker.

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  132. Gonna miss the start of the Pac-12 championship...because I had to work late at Pac-12.

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  133. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    Wow. So maybe the piece of art would have been worth something after the stroke.

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  134. Have they even come up with a new one in the past 10 years?


    Money In the Bank is coming up on it's 10th birthday isn't it?

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  135. I hate when people say, "oh, it was so obvious that X was going to go over Y."

    Let's try out this sentence, shall we?

    "Ugh, it was so obvious that Taker wasn't going to lose to Brock."

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  136. Arizona's gonna do it again.

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  137. Virgil's Gimmick TableDecember 5, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    I liked the match at 27. Sure, it had its problems, but the Tombstone spot was awesome. The 28 match was awful though thanks to Shawn's awful attempts at acting.

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  138. WOW. That's fucked up.

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  139. Do dog collar matches.

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  140. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    Championship Scramble from 08.

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  141. I'd put your mother in a dog collar.

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  142. Ladder match inside of Hell in a Cell.

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  143. Rich Rod is the Stone Cold to Oregon's Rock; this is their WM19 encounter tonight

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  144. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM

    Ladder from Hell match.

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  145. that's like complaining you missed S.D. Jones vs Italian Stallion because you were working at a jobber convention

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  146. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM

    A cage match inside of a cell.

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  147. QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK MR. DUCKSWORTH

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  148. Fuck that was the drizzling shits.


    Pretty sure the title was supposed to switch around ala the Hardcore title too before someone came to their senses.

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  149. woah dog, woah dog, too much uptown you gotta go downtown...Holy shit that's a crazy promo lol. I love blackjack coming in with the timex too lol

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  150. Virgil's Gimmick TableDecember 5, 2014 at 6:34 PM

    That's one thing I will kind of agree with you on. I didn't like the Triple H reign of terror myself, but it was sort of a necessary evil to make the title seem worth anything.

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  151. Kennel from hell was that.

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  152. A verbal debate inside the Cell which is held up by ladders.

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  153. Wasn't that what Kennel in a Cell was? I don't even remember.

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  154. Yes he was. Hell, I remember him getting face pops around that time.

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  155. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:35 PM

    With bees on the outside. And when you step outside the bees come after you. And there's a beehive in every corner, except one of them is fake and is filled with pink slips.

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  156. Kennel From Hell, is that the name of the master bedroom in your house?

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  157. Hogan's obsession and refusal the acknowledge someone else deserves to be champion would make Bret Hart say "wow, clam down buddy."

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  158. Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to have Cena-Rollins at TLC as a "No. 1 contender's match" instead of a "If Cena loses he is no longer No. 1 contender for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship" match?

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  159. Stranger in the AlpsDecember 5, 2014 at 6:36 PM

    That jobber convention would have George South and Reno Riggins.


    Wait, I think South died. Just Riggins then.

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  160. How much crack did JYD smoke before this interview you think?

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  161. Rollins already has the briefcase. He isn't trying to be #1 contender.

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  162. Rollins already has the MITB.

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  163. I picture him in bed rolling around and grabbing his knee until he finishes,

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  164. That would invalidate the previous #1 contenders match though.

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  165. The company went down the toilet then. It was a horrible year for the WWE

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  166. ...got that new white stuff...lol damn

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  167. HHH from 2002-2003 was awful he was Vinces instrument to bury WCW. He did however put over Benoit, Batista, and Cena clean in three straight WMs. You can also put his 2000-torn quad run,up against absolutely anyone ever in the company.

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  168. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    I have a much more boring story. I met the chick at work, and one time I was walking up to the bar and she was driving by and pulled over and we talked for a minute and it turns out we lived around the corner from each other, and she gave me her number. Because I'm a fucking idiot I didn't see the signs, Later on she was always tagging along with one of my fellow potheads when we drove off for our lunch break to get blazed, and again, because I'm a fucking idiot I didn't see the signs, though that caused a whole shitshow with my fellow pothead who got pissed thinking I "stole" her from him (forgetting that he's FUCKING MARRIED). I couple weeks later she drove me to the employee party, we get there and I pretty much ignore her the whole time, she's driving me home and is like "Really, are you fucking retarded? I've been throwing myself at you for about 6 months".

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  169. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    Ironically, another new stipulation match in the stair match is forming in Cleveland. Same place where the scramble match happened.

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  170. So did Edge and i recall him wanting to become number one contender in another match just as a backup plan.


    Or am i remembering that wrong?

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  171. Dude that promo is epic, I'm pretty sure when Blackjack talks about his gaining 15 pounds and keeping the honey wagon downwind he's saying her pussy stinks too lol

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  172. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:38 PM

    Evening.

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  173. Even if you are wrong, Edge was just a brighter guy.

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  174. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:39 PM

    OK then.

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  175. I think it's perfectly reasonable for a heel to be greedy and want both.

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  176. Sure, but it was already on huge downswing. Having a guy like Trips (and over on SD, guys like Angle and Lesnar) on top as opposed to bonafide megastars like Austin and Rocky obviously contributed greatly to that, but the company was already beginning it's fall when those two were still around.

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  177. Adam "Colorado" CurryDecember 5, 2014 at 6:39 PM

    Fuck Tracy Morgan, that dude sucks.

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  178. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:40 PM

    Which is why I'm shocked they haven't done something like that yet, since they did have two titles to work with years ago.

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  179. Anyone that tries to defend 2002 – 2003 WWE was obviously not around to watch 2002–2003 WWE. Beyond the SmackDown Six, it was nigh unwatchable.

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  180. But how was HHH over huge? It would have been a disaster had Shawn not come back in 2002. He was doing the Katie Vick shit that year.

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  181. Saying HHH was over huge is just laughable.

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  182. I suppose I couldn't have expected noted choker Rick Barnes to take down Pay Pal Cal's all-stars tonight...

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  183. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©December 5, 2014 at 6:41 PM

    Already the cool new team gets the jobber entrance.

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  184. How about this for a match idea: I call it the 'Marsellus Wallace Invitational'. It's kind of like a boiler room brawl, except there's a cop down there called Zed, a gimp they keep in a chest and a bearded fellow... I forget his name. I forgot where this was headed.

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  185. The Booker T thing still kills me. I had zero problems with the racial overtones of the feud and it helped Book get legit white hot. I do t want to hear about Goldberg b/c he worked Rock and Jericho first. Give him the win to pop the crowd, give him some credibility, and then switch back at either Backlash or Badd Blood. No harm, no foul.

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  186. That's too much uptown, you gotta go back downtown!

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  187. BTW the 76ers won before Cesaro did

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  188. I didn't say he was over huge. I said he was pretty over. There's a substantial difference in emphasis.

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