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IC tournament

I'm fine with running an IC tournament next, but I ain't seeding 64 guys myself. So you nerdlingers can work out the order amongst yourselves and someone can email me a list of seeds from 1-64.  Then I'll run the tournament and take all the credit and ad revenue. 

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  1. RANDY SAVAGE ALL THE WAY BAYBEE! OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAH!

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  2. I think Muraco, Savage and Perfect are all deserving of a one seed. I'm torn on Bret, Shawn and Razor for the final one seed.

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  3. I want to know if Abeyance~! will be in the tourney?

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  4. There are 73 people who have won the ic belt; do the rankings by how many days would they have been champ so Pedro morales would be the top overall seed.
    Once you get to about 55th longest, do play-in matchups.

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  5. 1. Razor Ramon
    2. Mr. Perfect
    3. Chris Jericho
    4. Honky Tonk Man
    5. Shawn Michaels
    6. Randy Savage
    7. Bret Hart
    8. RVD
    9. Ultimate Warrior
    10. Tito Santana
    11. Goldust
    12. Jeff Jarrett
    13. HHH
    14. Chris Benoit
    15. Edge
    16. Rick Rude
    17. Owen Hart
    18. The Rock
    19. Ahmed Johnson
    20. Steve Austin
    21. Jeff Hardy
    22. Val Venis
    23. Kerry Von Erich
    24. Davey Boy Smith
    25. D'Lo Brown
    26. Ken Shamrock
    27. The Mountie
    28. William Regal
    29. Randy Orton
    30. Roddy Piper
    31. Diesel
    32. Eddie Guerrero
    33. Kurt Angle
    34. Marc Mero
    35. Marty Jannetty
    36. Shelton Benjamin
    37. Kofi Kingston
    38. Carlito
    39. Kane
    40. CM Punk
    41. Rey Mysterio
    42. Booker T
    43. Christian
    44. John Morrison
    45. Santino
    46. Drew McIntyre
    47. Test
    48. Godfather
    49. Billy Gunn
    50. Dolph Ziggler
    51. Cody Rhodes
    52. The Miz
    53. Ric Flair
    54. Road Dogg
    55. Chyna
    56. Wade Barrett
    57. Rikishi
    58. Umaga
    59. JBL
    60. Big Show
    61. Luke Harper
    62. Curtis Axel
    63. Big E
    64. Zeke Jackson

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  6. He did beat Chris Jericho for the title several times in 2000...

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  7. I made it a modern seeding to get it down to 64. I started with Tito's reign in 85.

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  8. I knew a kid named Nerdlinger, seriously.

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  9. The Mountie!

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  10. But that means there's no place for the first ever champion Pat Patterson!

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  11. I don't see Abeyance~! on this list...

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  12. Shit, I forgot Steamboat. I'll edit him in and replace Chyna because I hate women.

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  13. Razor, perfect, Jericho, and Bret should be the 1 seeds

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  14. For clarification -
    Should the voting take into account only the person's time as IC champion/IC-maidcard level or subsequent pursuits also? Like Steve Austin - it doesn't count when he was World Champion right? And this is HHH before he was the boss's son-in-law?

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  15. Please Scott, I don't put in work for free.

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  16. Godfather number 1 seed.

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  17. He was also ic champ in the 2 man power trip

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  18. Does that mean we are "independent contractors"? Can I still book comedy gigs on the side?

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  19. I vote against 20 posts on some lame vote for Netcop to get jewgolds.

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  20. 1. Pat Patterson
    2-64 -- A bunch of lovely lads from Rio de Janeiro

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  21. WTF? That's some issues you got there.

    Besides doesn't Chyna have a spot based on historical importance alone?

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  22. It's a joke sunshine.

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  23. I think Orton needs to be way higher in the seeding.

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  24. I say you should make it easy on yourself. Wikipedia already lists the IC champions by total combined length of reign. Use that to seed up to 61. This then leaves three spots and 12 wrestlers. (Mountie, Rikishi, Road Dogg, Douglas, Albert, JBL, Luke Harper, Lance Storm, Billy Gunn, Jannetty, Test & Dlo Brown). So have a mini tournament to decide which three guys qualify.
    The mini tornument also means few extra clicks/views

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  25. Not a bad idea.

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  26. I like it. Three fatal-fourways for the final spots.

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  27. Just give it to The Godfather and move on.

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  28. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_Intercontinental_Champions

    They have a list of total days so the first seed would be Pedro down to the 64th reign.

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  29. as long as Ezekial Jackson is in it, I'm game.

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  30. WatercoolersandAirportsJanuary 7, 2015 at 11:13 AM

    VAN DAM"S GOING UP!!!! FIVE STAR FROG SPLASH!!!!

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  31. Nah, separate tourneys for JTTS and true jobbers.

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  32. I noticed him and Mero probably should have been higher but I left it because I like the idea of lower seeds being sneaky good title runs.

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  33. Good thing you aren't leaving money on the table with these tournaments.

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  34. So if my calculations are correct, and they usually are I see Carlito winning this by beating out HTM in a very close finals.

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  35. Extant1979 - Mr. Cable AccessJanuary 7, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    We really need specific seeding for something like this? How different do we really think the tag tourney would have ended up with something like that? Just throw the names in a randomizer and set the brackets. Who the fuck actually cares?

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  36. kbwrestlingreviewsJanuary 7, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    I'm looking forward to the Russo shows for just that reason.

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  37. I liked the random seeding, and I doubt very much that the outcome would have been any different in the tag tourney had it been seeded.

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  38. Patterson merged the NA title with the SA title when he beat tbk's granddad in Rio.

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  39. JTTS and JTTJ? Jobers to the Stars and Jobbers to the Jobbers

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  40. And we don't need this. Honky Tonk Man is the Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time!

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  41. I put these seedings into a match generator and there were some interesting matchups.

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  42. Just want to throw this out there....knowing the values of the championships these days, I'd have given anything to see Santino destroy the Honky Tonky Meter and set the record.

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  43. Yeah, I was actually into that. They seemed to just give up on it in favour of no plan at all.

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  44. Well, there have been 73 Intercontinental champions, so instead of picking the 64 guys to include, let's just pick the 9 we're excluding.

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  45. CREAM OF THE CROP!

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  46. Solid list, although Ahmed Johnson is seeded way too high.

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  47. Extant1979 - Mr. Cable AccessJanuary 7, 2015 at 11:49 AM

    By the Ultimate Warrior. In 30 seconds. At Madison Square Garden.

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  48. If anyone could win a poll by DQ, it'd be The Honky Tonk Man.

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  49. Jacques Rougeau.
    Also, Jeff Jarrett. That one was a personal choice.

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  50. 1-64: Ricky Steamboat

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  51. He had to have been a dweebus.

    Bonus points if he ended up being a Varsity Quarterback, or some shit.

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  52. What's difficult about that is that you might run into gray areas (as you mentioned)....for example, do you count Rick Martel or Curt Hennig? They were champs in the AWA, but they never held the WWF or WCW World Championships.

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  53. A jobbers tournament should be done in reverse. The guy who wins the poll is the one who gets eliminated.

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  54. Always remember Heyman saying he wasn't that worried when Public Enemy jumped to WCW because he knew they were really crap and would be exposed as such outside ECW.

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  55. One slight change I would make is the play in battles should also be by day length.
    Example booker t would face dean Douglas

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  56. Pedro is one; who is the other (curt hennig, Kerry Von Erich?)

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  57. When I was in Israel, I actually met a nimrod

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  58. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©January 7, 2015 at 12:33 PM

    I like it, especially the extra qualifying matches.

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  59. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©January 7, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    Yes! I always wanted to see a tournament like that, I can't upvote this enough.

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  60. Let's have a tournament that only includes the guys that banged Missy Hyatt.

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  61. From a Kayfabe standpoint, Steamboat's a loser IC champ. Savage had him beat clean but the ref was knocked out, then Animal Steele interfered for him, then he loses it just a short time after to the goofy Honkey Tonk Man. He wouldn't get my vote even against Chyna.

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  62. There's no shame in losing to the Greatest Intercontinental Champion of All Time.

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  63. But his title win was "a miscarriage of justice, Monsoon"

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  64. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJanuary 7, 2015 at 12:47 PM

    Can this fictitious tournament final be in Rio to bring this thing full circle?

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  65. Just award it to Shawn Michaels. Tremendous reigns, especially his first one. Even as a 12 year old mark boy, I thought he made the title exciting and it was a title for good wrestlers who aren't quite World Champion yet.

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  66. It's amazing that Steamboat was the shortest reigning Intercontinental Champion of the classic IC (1979-1993) era.

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  67. WatercoolersandAirportsJanuary 7, 2015 at 1:10 PM

    Does the actually ECW title count as a world title ?

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  68. 1. Pedro Morales vs. Winner of Fatal 4-Way: Rikishi vs. Test vs. The Mountie vs. Dean Douglas
    2. Don Muraco vs. Winner of Fatal 4-Way: D'Lo Brown vs. Marty Jannetty vs. Billy Gunn vs. Road Dogg
    3. Honky Tonk Man vs. Winner of Fatal 4-Way: JBL vs. Albert vs. Lance Storm vs. Luke Harper

    4. Tito Santana vs. 61. Big Show
    5. Razor Ramon vs. 60. Mark Mero
    6. Ultimate Warrior vs. 59. Booker T
    7. Randy Savage vs. 58. Curt Angle
    8. Curt Hennig vs. 57. The Godfather
    9. Shawn Michaels vs. 56. CM Punk
    10. Shelton Benjamin vs. 55. Ahmed Johnson
    11. The Rock vs. 54. Ezekiel Jackson
    12. Jeff Hardy vs. 53. Kane
    13. Chris Jericho vs. 52. Davey Boy Smith
    14. Wade Barrett vs. 51. Chyna
    15. Jeff Jarrett vs. 50. Steve Austin
    16. Bret Hart vs. 49. Ricky Steamboat
    17. Greg Valentine vs. 48. Roddy Piper
    18. Dolph Ziggler vs. 47. Val Venis
    19. Kofi Kingston vs. 46. Kerry Von Erick
    20. Cody Rhodes vs. 45. Carlito
    21. Pat Patterson vs. 44. Eddie Guerrero
    22. Ken Patera vs. 43. The Miz
    23. Rob Van Dam vs. 42. Umaga
    24. Randy Orton vs. 41. Ken Shamrock
    25. John Morrison vs. 40. William Regal
    26. Triple H vs. 39. Rey Mysterio
    27. Christian vs. 38. Owen Hart
    28. Edge vs. 37. Diesel
    29. Goldust vs. 36. Chris Benoit
    30. Big E vs. 35. Rick Rude
    31. Santino Marella vs. 34. Curtis Axel
    32. Drew McIntyre vs. 33. Ric Flair


    There are some interesting first round matchups on this list.

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  69. Honky Tonk Forever!

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  70. There it is, Scott.

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  71. Found a tournament to randomly generate match ups and one of them was Pat Patterson vs Chyna. I kind of want to see that now.

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  72. Savage/Angle
    Michaels/Punk
    Jericho/DBS
    Wade/Chyna (He damn sure won't treat her like a woman)
    Jarrett/Austin
    Hart/Steamboat
    Valentine/Piper
    Patterson/Guerrero
    HHH/Mysterio
    Christian/Hart
    Marella/Axel (KIDDING...)


    Solid card.

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  73. 64 top reigns by date; dump off Albert (he lost the title to Lance who gets in), and anyone with a shorter reign. Boom.



    1 Pedro Morales
    2 Don Muraco
    3 The Honky Tonk Man
    4 Tito Santana 2 443
    5 Razor Ramon 4 437
    6 The Ultimate Warrior 2 432
    7 Randy Savage 1 414
    8 Mr. Perfect 2 406
    9 Shawn Michaels 3 406
    10 Shelton Benjamin 3 354
    11 Rocky Maivia/The Rock 2 339
    12 Jeff Hardy 4 329
    13 Chris Jericho 9 318
    14 Wade Barrett/Bad News Barrett 5 316+
    15 Jeff Jarrett 6 298
    16 Bret Hart 2 290
    17 Greg Valentine 1 285
    18 Dolph Ziggler 4 273
    19 Kofi Kingston 4 266
    20 Cody Rhodes 2 257
    21 Pat Patterson 1 233
    22 Ken Patera 1 231
    23 Rob Van Dam 6 211
    24 Randy Orton 1 210
    25 Johnny Nitro/John Morrison 3 209
    26 Hunter Hearst Helmsley/Triple H 5 196
    27 Christian 4 192
    28 Edge 5 171
    29 Goldust 3 168
    30 Big E Langston/Big E 1 167
    31 Santino Marella 2 162
    32 Drew McIntyre 1 161
    33 Ric Flair 1 155
    34 Curtis Axel 1 155
    35 Rick Rude 1 148
    36 Chris Benoit 4 142
    37 Diesel 1 138
    38 Owen Hart 2 132
    39 Rey Mysterio 2 128
    40 William Regal 2 126
    41 Ken Shamrock 1 125
    42 Umaga 2 118
    43 The Miz 4 115
    44 Eddie Guerrero 2 114
    45 Carlito 1 90
    46 Texas Tornado 1 84
    47 Val Venis 2 83
    48 Roddy Piper 1 77
    49 Ricky Steamboat 1 65
    50 Steve Austin 2 65
    51 Chyna 2 64
    52 British Bulldog 1 59
    53 Kane 2 57
    54 Ezekiel Jackson 1 51
    55 Ahmed Johnson 1 50
    56 CM Punk 1 49
    57 The Godfather 1 43
    58 Kurt Angle 1 35
    59 Booker T 1 34
    60 Marc Mero 1 28
    61 Big Show 1 28
    62 Luke Harper 1 27
    63 John "Bradshaw" Layfield 1 27
    64 Lance Storm 1

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  74. This isn't my tournament, but I would say "No" to that.

    My criteria would be...the NWA Championship from 1905-1991, the AWA Championship from 1960-1991, and the WWWF/WWF/WWE Championship from April 1963-Present.

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  75. I figured we'd seen the last of the Nasty Boys after the tag tournament. Guess not!

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  76. YankeesHoganTripleHFanJanuary 7, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    Ken Patera wins or we riot!

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  77. There is no way top seed Pedro Morales makes it out of the first round.

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  78. YankeesHoganTripleHFanJanuary 7, 2015 at 1:30 PM

    I can actually seeing Honky getting quite far...as long as he's not matched up against the Warrior.

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  79. Mitch, The GodfatherJanuary 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM

    I can only hope Jericho goes out in the first round.

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  80. "NWA Championship from 1905-1991"



    Your timeframe is off. And sadly, my NWA book is at home, otherwise I'd correct it with confidence. There were TWO NWA's, one was never more than a regional board that made a couple champs, the other is the National Wrestling Alliance we're all familiar with.

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  81. Rikishi/Test/Mountie/Dean should not be too tough... but having to face Flair in the second round might be unlucky.

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  82. Barney Never

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  83. Is CAPS LOCK MAN still around? I miss his posts...

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  84. WatercoolersandAirportsJanuary 7, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    So Taz, SABU, Raven etc are not former world champions.

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  85. Among this crowd I see a lot Mountie supporters.

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  86. Ziggler/Venis is fascinating for a number of reasons.

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  87. One of the best theme songs ever. He also had a more memorable title reign than most of these guys.

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  88. The sad thing is that his two day reign is more memorable than the reigns of the next three guys above him.

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  89. Yeah, HBK's first reign is so underrated. I think he defended it against every midcarder on the roster.

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  90. I tell you what, let's say they are. Are any of those guys even in the same league as Flair, Race, Brisco, and the Funks? Answer: Nah.

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  91. LOL fine fine. I'm not Inspector 34 after all. I eat my BBQ Chicken with a fork and knife!

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  92. I considered making a Schiavone joke instead, but playing that one straight felt better.

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  93. I'm beginning to think Sid MIGHT not be playing with a full deck.

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  94. You probably would love the idea of a reverse battle royal too wouldn't ya?

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  95. They're great in the sense that they're not boring and every once in a while, something works. It's not just the slow, plodding death this was.

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  96. Treat this like the FA Cup or other soccer championships, random draw the entire way.

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  97. We don't need no stinkin' seeding!

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  98. This might be overkill...but by my count there are 126 individuals who have held either the IC or US championships (79 US Champs, 73 IC Champs...26 guys have held both). So close to being the perfect 128 needed for a mega tournament...

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  99. TJ: The ECW Zombie passed away today. Dude was just 38. I'm sure someone will have something clever to say, but Lord knows, it's not gonna be me.


    RIP

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  100. Ah. Ah. I get it now. I don't know why I got so excited to begin with. I'm no great champion of women's rights (outside of the internet) and I generally dislike gays, blacks and retards, so it is not like I have room to talk.

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  101. He was already dead wasn't he? Bleh

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  102. Damn even 1 shot indy guys can't escape the wrestling curse.

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  103. TJ:

    I check almost every thread on this blog. Almost. So...how the hell did I miss the post that let us know that PRIME TIME is now in the Network Vault???

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  104. This might take all the fun out of the tournament, but aren't we all agreed that Mr Perfect is the greatest IC champ ever? If not - name someone better

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  105. He's handsome, he's brave AND he's strong!

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  106. Randy Savage?

    Bret Hart?

    Chris Jericho?

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  107. It's only like three episodes, last I check. But Scott did make a big deal about it on a post.

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  108. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©January 7, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    I've seen it, that idea isn't as great.

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  109. Patterson/Brisco v. Chyna happened on an episode of Raw before the 1999 Royal Rumble.


    Wasn't too bad.

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  110. Virgil, Kamala, Bob Backlund, Tatanka, Mr. Perfect, Hacksaw Duggan, Marty Jannetty... and that's just off the top of my head.

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  111. The Honkytonk Man.

    Main evented more shows than any other IC Champ ever.

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  112. This should be the thing that happens.

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  113. EERRRRTRTTRRRHH!
    EERRRRTRTTRRRHH!

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  114. Meh. I might resubscribe for the WM hype, but with all the original music gutted, I doubt that I will be interested.

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  115. With as quickly as titles change hands, if we wait another month we should be good, right?

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  116. I don't know, those guys were world champs as well. Feels like Mr. Perfect is just the personification of what an IC champ should be

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  117. Good shout.... I prefer Perfect though

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  118. Didn't one of them try to hit Chyna with a low blow?

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  119. Battle royal among the smallest reigns for the 64th spot, then seeding by total combined reign length seems fairest.

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  120. Seeding by cock size?

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  121. Raven held the NWA World Title.

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  122. I am sure that the body fat kept her internal temperature quite high.

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  123. Otto Wanz or GTFO.

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  124. Which of Shane Douglas's title reigns was shorter: his IC title reign, or his NWA World Title reign?

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  125. Have we decided yet?

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  126. Whoever the IC champ was a couple weeks ago was pretty good, I think.

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  127. WatercoolersandAirportsJanuary 7, 2015 at 4:20 PM

    Yes under the TNA banner tho.

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  128. FOUR as of today!

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  129. We shouldn't get too attached to the current champion because he's losing it within the next two months anyway.

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  130. Ultimate warrior is the only ic champ to main event wrestlemania while being champ.

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  131. Like anyone since The Rock has a chance of winning this (since Austin throwing it in the river is when the title died)... Mr Perfect, Honky Tonk Man, Macho Man, and Steamboat are really the only worthwhile options.

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  132. Poor TPE. That's like their eternal legacy in the wrestling business- that they sucked ass and had to be carried by great booking. And they're both dead, so there's no fixing that.

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  133. "I have half the brain...that YOU DO"

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  134. Boy hogan just didn't understand how to evolve during this period.

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  135. What was that part about avenging Wrestlemania VII about?

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  136. I'm strolling through 1995 ECW on the Network and think that was PE's best year in the business. Of course, going to WCW and WWF inflated their paychecks but not their standing as far as tag team ranking is concerned.

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