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Hulk Hogan Disgraces The WWF Championship


What was the story here?! How did McMahon let Hogan insult his belt like that?

Plus, how awesome is that HULK HOGAN is ripping on other wrestlers for not leaving and returning to wrestling?

​Yeah, Vince definitely didn't sign off on it, and it was a bone of contention between them for a while to say the least.  I think I can KIND of understand where Hulk was coming from with the promo, because he was trying to make the IWGP belt sound like a big deal and he just didn't think about what he was saying, but it just comes off as a really bad idea.  ​

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  1. I mean, he was right. In Japan the mystique of wrestling being "real" was still there. 80s WWF was a straight cartoon. Fighting for the "real" championship is a way above play fighting over the "fake" WWF title.

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  2. Hogan always was a huge deal in Japan and brought his game bigger there. Track down his battle with Stan Hansen, Hogan just destroys him and it's a huge deal because of how big a star Hansen was in Japan.

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  3. Kind of reminds me when Foley spit on one of the tag titles in an ECW promo. Flair was PISSED about it.

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  4. Hogan was a month into his reign at this point and IIRC he was in conflict with Vince at this point already. They couldn't work out a long term deal, vince was pissed at him for winning the title and immediately heading overseas, and he probably already knew he was dropping the title and on his way out. Ever the political mastermind, he was probably already looking at his next gig in Japan.

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  5. I feel sorry for people who weren't there to experience this as it was going on....I remember reading this somewhere in a dirtsheet when it happened and it blew my mind, always and I mean ALWAYS respected Hogan after this

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  6. I can't take a title seriously that's been won twice by Scott Norton.

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  7. Hogan, by his own admission, really wasn't all that serious about wrestling at this point.

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  8. I can't take a title seriously that's been won twice by Sheamus.

    FIFY

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  9. Hogan already knew he was dropping the title to Yokozuna at this point, so naturally he was establishing that that loss wouldn't mean anything.

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  10. Making fun of Scott Norton is absolute horseshit.

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  11. Man, I miss these days when the people in charge actually cared about titles.

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  12. If Scott wants to shit all over Hogan tonight at least show one his WCW interviews with Bischoff holding his cock while smiling like a giddy school boy. Or something from his TNA run.

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  13. Baldwin kills, every time.

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  14. The other old guys look a lot better. Garrett Morris is 78 and looks a lot better than him and he used to freebase

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  15. His Tracy impression is so funny.

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  16. He's really great at comedy. It's funnier that he HATES paparazzi types.

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  17. Black don't crack.

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  18. No one beats Jim Brueur's Tracy Morgan's impression

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  19. lol at that Tracy Morgan tribute.

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  20. Chevy also is an alcoholic who probably did his fair share of coke. I met Chevy twice, he's very intimidating.

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  21. Um... 30 seconds of Tracy Morgan as a tribute? The timing is all over the place on this show... especially on the breaks.

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  22. "But he's not dead!"

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  23. Jay Mohr may have him.

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  24. "Our buddy can't talk yet, so here's a 30 second clip of his most famous character from the show. Love you, Tracy."

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  25. He's like 6' 5" right?

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  26. It's like Vince is still doing rewrites of the show.

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  27. Oooooh, LeBron passed MJ at All-Star scoring! There is no next, ESPN.

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  28. They weren't able to do a dress rehearsal, which explains a lot.

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  29. (Yes, I post about this too much) WAIT, Chappie's R rated? What the fuckkkkkkkk?

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  30. We could have at least got his pitch for Lamont Bond.

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  31. I bet that's all he wanted to do

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  32. Hugh Jackman's half-bowlcut, half-mullet hairdo is not for children.

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  33. No good comes with robots having morals and AI.

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  34. Then don't have him show up or maybe make it clear that's all he's going to do.

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  35. I wish there were good sitcoms that I can get into without fear that they will be cancelled after 1-2 seasons. Networks pull the plugs way too early nowadays.

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  36. Is SNL really the place for a Kanye West music experiment?

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  37. Oh good. Kanye. Lovely.

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  38. If anything, networks are more patient than ever. This is a complaint from like 1987

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  39. Gawker reposted an old article about the various awful things Chevy did/was accused of...apparently he suggested a weekly sketch where the first openly gay cast member back in the 80s would weigh in every week to see if he had AIDS.

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  40. I'm really hoping he bang the shit out of Taylor pre-show.

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  41. Tons of missed cues

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  42. Wow that offensive. Even to me.

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  43. That's from Live From New York. I laugh every time I read that.

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  44. Stranger in the AlpsFebruary 15, 2015 at 8:43 PM

    I fucking hate Kanye West. And I don't hate anybody. Except Kanye West.

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  45. That was Terry Sweeney he was referring to

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  46. So fucking funny. Chevy's the best.

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  47. It's definitely hilarious.

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  48. That's photoshopped... kind of a shot at Kimmy K.

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  49. ...yeah, THIS dude should get minutes upon minutes.

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  50. Is Kanye breaking autotune? lol

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  51. Me: Chevy, Dirty Work is my all time favorite movie.
    Chevy: Really? I thought it was terrible.

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  52. Is this a skit? Who's playing Kanye?

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  53. I don't mind him...except on a SNL tribute show. This should be on the Grammys or a normal show.

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  54. Stranger in the AlpsFebruary 15, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    I think Kanye West is channeling Sprockets or some shit.

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  55. Sweet Cousin It gets a solo

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  56. That's hilarious given that school's recent history.

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  57. I guess I'm old. I just don't get pop music anymore.

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  58. I always loved Tony Shiavone's frequent "HE PICKED HIM UP"

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  59. Sandler tosses her a few roles on occasion

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  60. On a different note, I thought Murray's last line in Zombieland was hilarious.


    Emma Stone: Any regrets?
    Murray: Garfeld, maybe?

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  61. He's has happy as a little girl.

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  62. As opposed to Vince McMahon and The Miz?

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  63. I was so crestfallen when he said that and Chevy saw it and realised how much of a dick thing that was to say so he started explaining to me how hilarious the original cut was and it just hurt him to see them cut it

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  64. Mike Myers hasn't done anything yet so that's still coming.

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  65. The Love Guru joke on his last appearance about The Interview was good.

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  66. Hogan disgraced the WWF Title every time he wrestled, amirite?

    Tip your waitstaff!

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  67. Is Streisand advertised? If so, then Linda.

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  68. Okay, at what point is the word "wrestling" first said on the first part of Jericho's podcast with HBK? MotherFUCKER, haha.

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  69. What about the one where Jarrett busts a guitar over his head in Japan. What was that about?

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  70. Most celebrities are douchebags, he takes it to a new level.

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  71. That was fucking awesome. I loved that joke. Especially when Finesse Mitchell was tasked but Lorne to "handle" Kanye. He goes in, and Kanye IMMEDIATELY comes out.

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  72. I can't a title seriously that's been won twice by Alberto Del Rio.


    FIFY.

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  73. Louis CK is the fucking man.

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  74. You damn right he is!

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  75. You're probably thinking of The Mountie. Not kidding.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x33fmz_jacques-rougeau-vs-hulk-hogan_sport

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  76. Did he have another gig in Japan? I don't remember doing anything after after he dropped the belt to Yokozuna until he showed up in WCW.

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  77. Slam Jam should have won a damn Grammy

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  78. Stranger in the AlpsFebruary 15, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    http://www.dailymotion.com/strangerinthealps



    So I uploaded the Superstars from 11/8/86. Unfortunately, I was unable to acquire Wrestling Challenge from the same weekend, but I will continue to attempt to get that uploaded.


    On this episode, The Killer Bees take on Nikolai Volkoff & The Iron Sheik; Koko B. Ware takes on Moondog Rex; we'll see footage of Slick selling the contract of Hercules to Bobby Heenan, then Hercules takes on Lanny Poffo in his first match with Heenan; The British Bulldogs see action, as does Sika. Harley Race and Bobby Heenan are on Piper's Pit, and The Honky Tonk Man's vote of confidence write-in campaign begins.


    I have the 1/3/87 epsiode of NWA World Wide, and I might upload that and begin chronological posting of those shows.

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  79. Over-77 for 3-pointers attempted was sucker money. They are already at 125

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  80. This part should be like 90% Fallon clips.

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  81. Watching The Sixties: British Invasion and I kinda feel like Bill Wyman gets overlooked in the conversation about great bassists.

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  82. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 15, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Seeing Vince McMahon resist the urge to tell Tony Atlas to dance is amusing to me.

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  83. That was a great music video.

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  84. "And here's another one from Fallon and Sanz!"

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  85. They talk A LOT about wrestling as it progresses. They almost ignore his book as they get so involved in their discussion.

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  86. I hope so, like, my eyes were in the back of my head. And that segment itself was like 75% "I'm taller than Bryan, you know, Nash is right."

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  87. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 15, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    Tommy Rich saying "Hey HAMBO (yes he said Hambo) I got some boots in the back for you to shine" to the ECW crowd.

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  88. I knew when Samberg was leaving that the digital short qualities were going to drop by a huge amount. Lorne or something said in an interview that Samberg leaving wouldn't affect them. Yeah, BS.

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  89. I will, however, never stop laughing at the "you know what they say about boots, they're made for walkin'. Ha ha, just kidding pal!...you're fired" story.

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  90. Cinnamon horchata ale from Blue Moon is crazy good.

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  91. Kyle mooney is great but the show is starting to rely to much on pretapes.

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  92. It's different.

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  93. Billy Murray. Here comes the closer.

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  94. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 15, 2015 at 9:07 PM

    He meant to say Sambo.

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  95. It's hilarious to think that in hindsight; Vince McMahon, the Miz, Alberto Del Rio, and Sheamus are former WWE Champions.


    And the irony of Undertaker winning the title on the same night Owen Hart died.

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  96. Funny thing is that Vince might have gotten pissed in 1993, but if Hogan said that today in 2015, Vince would probably just agree. Just a prop!

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  97. I just saw a clip on youtube of Kevin Steen at an indie show getting the crowd to chant faggot at a guy who yelled boring at him. This isn't 1991 Bushwackers shit to the Beverly's, this was pretty damn recent.

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  98. Vince seems like he'd bang muscular dudes but not consider himself gay.

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  99. Haha. I'm not gay pal, he sucked my coc*

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  100. True, but when they threw their hands up and made WCW into a total WWF Attitude clone, taking away the things that kept us watching, that was it for me.

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  101. What's with digging up the incriminating Hogan interviews tonight? Nah, just kidding, keep it coming....brother!

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  102. Piper was/is a legit racist.

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  103. ADR has drawn money.

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  104. TJ: After watching SNL40, I wondered...does anyone know what the Digital Short song about punching people while they eat was called, officially?
    ObWrestling: Hulk Hogan and Mr. T were seen briefly in the sports montage of SNL clips.

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  105. i always felt hogan looked super healthy and younger in 1993-4

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  106. There's at least one clean submission loss to Inoki in '82 or '83.

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  107. I thought Hogan decided he would rather have reconstructive knee surgery and go back to WWE? I don't think it had anything to do wih Russo

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  108. Yes. And? Are you expecting pro wrestling to be progressive? A Canadian pro wrestler? A Canadian?

    Besides nothing wrong with the word faggot. I assure you, homophobia is far more complex than a word. Homophobes will just use another word. Like they always had.

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  109. What's the story behind LOD at the time? They did an interview on the show, why not a match? And why turn the Disasters face so soon? I thought for sure they'd be dominant heels for a long run,

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  110. I'm more of the side that complains when people try to remove a word from vernacular. It's just a word, I agree. I was just pointing out how insane that someone would lead a crowd to chant that at a heckling fan.

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  111. He didn't know what the fuck he was doing. After the fact he tried come out with some excuses because Bad News Brown was pissed and would beaten the hell out of him.

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  112. Maybe he just liked British meatballs?

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  113. Really waiting for a hazel-eyed brunette to declare this racist?

    It's 1/10 maybe 2/10 for the brown clown reference but that made me laugh.

    As far as Tampa rednecks go, Hulk is pretty tame. He went to Robinson High School, he had to at least be smart enough not to say the wrong shit around the wrong people at Robinson.

    Now Paul Orndorff...that's a fucking redneck if there was one.

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  114. How is it insane?

    Fan heckled Steen, Steen comes straight back at him. It's part of the small venue experience. I've seen stuff like that happen at indy shows all the time.
    To cross media types--

    I just went to a metal concert last week where the singer literally told the crowd to give a heckler "his first homosexual experience"

    Crowd hit him really hard when the moshing started again. Like my friend had a better view and he says he saw the guy get drilled in the face.

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  115. No, that wasn't racist. THIS is racist:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0do83v2z9E

    References to boy, a joke based on the size of someone's lips, and threats of lynching. Jeez, 1984 was a pretty fucked up year.

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  116. Oh yeah, and this...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPmYtfApc78

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  117. I never knew ADR had artistic skills...

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  118. Princess is our residential racism expert?


    I mean, Fuj will blow you up if you insult him, but why Princess?

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  119. Exactly.

    Can any other IWGP Heavyweight Champion eat 298 pancakes in one sitting?

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  120. Well, if Piper injected instead of snorted, that wouldn't be a completely unreasonable proposition.

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  121. That's insane because after that Lamb of God thing people should be real fucking careful what happens at concerts.

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  122. Adam "Colorado" CurryFebruary 15, 2015 at 11:04 PM

    He's drawn Pesos, which are worth like 1/10th of real money.

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  123. Well he didn't have the ridiculous steroid bloat he had from 89-91. He was the smallest he had been in any part of his career but he was still a pretty big dude. He just looked leaner and more like a person.

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  124. Adam "Colorado" CurryFebruary 15, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    Probably Jacques at that house show in Montreal.

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  125. I was at a house show in Vancouver in 1991 (Main Event, Bret Hart vs Berzerker IC Title, tears in eyes blah blah blah) and I remember the Bushwackers starting a faggot chant against the Beverlys. This happened often?

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  126. In Mexico, riding his families coattails.

    On his own? In America? Not so much.

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  127. So the official list is....what then...

    1) Biggest Star Ever
    2) Way More Important Than Flair
    3) Refused to Do Jobs
    4) Held People Back
    5) Racist

    Yeah, I'd still take that career.

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  128. I know it's click bait but I guess it's a hot topic button...

    http://whatculture.com/wwe/10-wrestlers-who-hulk-hogan-refused-to-lose-against.php

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  129. That's not irony. Irony is an observation of two unrelated events. That Undertaker fought for and won the title after Owen died was a deliberate decision by Vince McMahon.

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  130. Hogan killed the WWF Title!*

    *Though he also gave birth to the WWE Title.

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  131. He did some jobs in 2002 because that's what he should have been doing! Within a year r so, he'd be back to his old tricks.

    In 2006, he should have jobbed to the "Legend Killer" Randy Orton but didn't.

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  132. I wouldn't doubt Lesnar like that.

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  133. I think the Miz is a good story to point to. As far as I can remember he was really the first younger guy that they tossed out there to get killed by the heat of an old part-time legend. It wasn't just that he was going to be a bumbling loser heading into that Mania, it was that he was a bumbling loser inconsequential to the story.

    That was Jericho/Hunter shit except Miz was stuck playing the dog.

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  134. You forgot

    bass player for Metallica.

    Raised two horrible children.

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  135. Brock "Flapjack" Lesnar doesn't quite roll off the tongue the way Scott "Flapjack" Norton does

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  136. The bass player thing is hilarious. On Jericho he said flat out: "No that rumors not true. I mean, it's true it's a rumor, I definitely said that a few times to people because I thought it was funny, but it was never true."

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  137. Yes. The Beverly brothers were somehow gay to babyfaces lol

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  138. It's not cool. People get hurt when angry mob mentality occurs

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  139. Piper did promos before mania in that stupid bi-color paint. Bad News knew about it and probably was pissed, as he was constantly upset in the WWF. But i doubt News saw it at Mania again and wanted to attack him if he could--more Piper kayfabe

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  140. Murdoch was a legit racist. Mr. Vice President PS Hayes is a legit racist

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  141. Hilarious. Did you know that Jericho asked Hogan to be the bass player for Fozzy?

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  142. CruelConnectionNumber2February 16, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    "People Getting Punched Just Before Eating"

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  143. CruelConnectionNumber2February 16, 2015 at 12:03 AM

    So were Rock (twice) HHH Show Foley Cena --- memories

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  144. Punk coming back for Summerslam killed him off. If he'd pushed harder to come back later, say the Rumble or Mania, shit would have been set for life.

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  145. Riding your families coattails to fame and fortune is as American as pro wrestling.


    Anybody busting Bret Hart's chops for being the son of Stu?

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  146. He won a gold in the Pan-American games, y'know.

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  147. Michael Hayes watched this clip and rated it 1/10 on his racism scale.

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  148. "Pesos. Great. These zeroes are all meaningless"

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  149. Bingo. I feel Vince built WWE to become a brand similar to the NFL, where people tune in because of the brand rather than the individual players.

    However, wrestling has always been about the wrestlers rather than THIS BUSINESS. Most people don't tune in because they like wrestling regardless of who is in the ring, they watch because they like Bryan, Lesnar, Cena, Ziggler or whoever. This is why Vince's idea of making the WWE brand bigger than its stars will ultimately blow up in his face.

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  150. Is that starring future WWE HOFer Chyna?

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  151. Kinda reminds me of Hollywood Rock.


    I do agree that it looks much better than the over-inflated blow-up doll look he normally has.

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  152. Right he was only gone for like a week.

    "You're just a guy who held out for a few perks"

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  153. They were kinda between a rock and a hard place... The Savage/Roberts feud was one of the best ever, and deserved a WM blow-off; and of course Hogan/Flair would have drawn big. But with Hogan 'retiring', they likely want the title on him, vacant yet again so soon, and doubtful Hogan or Vince would have let NWA Ric Flair to go over.


    Maybe some type of shenanigans, Warrior returns to help Hogan, Hogan beats Flair, retiring with the belt... But then Flair and Perfect make a big deal after with all kinds of legal threats and actions and Tunney returns the title to Flair the next week or so. Leaving a fresh Flair/Savage feud for Summerslam.

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  154. For those here who dont know that Lesnar won the IWGP title, WWE cock blocked him and tried to stop him competing in another promotion because Vince is a cunt. Granted Lesnar's work in NJPW was exceptionally underwhelming but the point still stands, Vince fears NJPW!

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  155. I agree with the Punk/Del Rio stuff. But actually I thought the Randy Orton cash-in at first was a great move. Orton was still quite protected as a face and as 'the Viper' before that, it would have been a much better chase... But HHH sucked all of Orton's would-be heat away (and the menacing Viper character), and treated him like a dumb-lackey henchman.

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  156. Agreed. Watching the match at the time, my 10-year-old mind was blown since I thought they were making Hogan into a bad guy. It was pretty confusing watching Sid positioned as the heel over the next few weeks....Sid was 100% in the right.

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  157. Yes, but Goldberg got injured smashing his arm through the limousine window. So I believe those were the plans and scrambled for a plan B. I actually think the Sting/Hogan screw up at Starrcade was worse. Come to think of it they screwed up most Starrcades... Nash/Goldberg and Piper/Hogan with the dumb non-title things.

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  158. I'd say the missed opportunity was Wrestlemania 9. Hogan makes his big comeback, Flair takes offense and claims the WWF is "his company now," and the two face off in a career match at WM9. I'm sure Flair could've been convinced to stick around for a couple of extra months in exchange for a fat Mania paycheck.

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  159. I agree with the Punk/Del Rio stuff. But actually I thought the Randy Orton cash-in at first was a great move. Orton was still quite protected as a face and as 'the Viper' before that, it would have been a much better chase... But HHH sucked all of Orton's would-be heat away (and the menacing Viper character), and treated him like a dumb-lackey henchman.

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  160. They lost direction, title changes and booking all over the map.

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  161. To this day, I think it would've made a lot more sense to have Cena/Rey headline Summerslam and have Punk make his big return after their match.

    1. It would've made Cena look like a lot less of a dick for challenging Rey the same night he won the title
    2. Cena/Rey was a fresh match (had they EVER fought before?) and a legit major main event worthy of a Summerslam.
    3. Punk would've complained about missing a big PPV, but he could've been cut a check
    4. Night Of Champions suddenly becomes an enormous deal with the Punk/Cena rematch.
    5. Punk/HHH suddenly doesn't happen, so that nonsense is erased from history.

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  162. Miz was really over, did the "Honky Tonk Man" thing quite well... But that wasn't something that should have main-evented Wrestlemania. Rock over shadowed everything, so either pay him the money to do Rock/Cena one year earlier, or don't have him involved with Cena until after the Miz match.

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  163. They tried to block him from working in any wrestling or combat sport for something crazy like ten years, didn't they? I think he actually signed a deal stating that when he got his release, but it was totally illegal and thrown out of court eventually. You can't stop a guy earning a living like that.

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  164. Eh...it worked didn't it?

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  165. WWE always gonna WWE.

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  166. a fourth trimester abortion if you will

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  167. Atlas with a microphone.....just no

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  168. I always feel Shawn Michaels Retirement is when it became obvious. Having him around and a rejuvenated and fit Taker really helped put a giant band aid over a fading product.

    It also helped that you still had a relatively good supporting cast of characters then full time - Edge, Jericho, Batista, HHH who would all be on their way out as full time performers over the next year. That's six pretty big stars.....leaving only Cena and Orton and for whatever reason the WWE refused to go all in with obvious replacements Punk and Bryan.

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  169. True, we’ve lost a lot of the people who
    have the ability to turn chicken shit into chicken salad, in Brock’s phrase.
    Punk, Jericho, Michaels, they all had the ability to make bad booking seem… not
    so bad. Cena, Bryan, HHH, you put these guys in bad angles and the angles suck
    badly. None of them are strong enough talkers or characters to pull things off.

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  170. I've been at shows and if the person on stage told the crowd to kill a guy I'm not totally sure what I would do, and I don't drink. Take into consideration a fair amount of the crowd will be a tiny bit loaded and you really don't need to add the guy everybody is listening to being an asshole.


    Also, the RoH crowd is notoriously stupid, so I wouldn't begin poking that bear.

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  171. That was in January of 2000, Kevin.

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  172. For me, the absolute wasting of the Nexus by feeding them to Cena, rather than letting them be strong, and then shoving Punk in as their leader which (imo) just didn't work.

    The Nexus should have been booked similarly to the Shield - an absolutely dominant force who were able to smartly use strength in numbers to their advantage. Instead, they ended up a joke.

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  173. But this is what people mean when they're talking about the Fingerpoke. Yes, it could have set up a good Goldberg vs. NWO angle*, but that didn't happen, was never planned to happen, and Goldberg never got another match against Hollywood or another run with the belt. The fingerpoke was all about getting the belt back on Hogan, reforming the NWO, and setting up another Hogan/Flair feud.

    *And even then, I'm not sure how much it mattered. Long term issues aside, what was infuriating at the time was having the sit through both the Fingerpoke and after-the fact-beatdown, plus the show long "Goldberg raped Elizabeth" shit, instead of getting the promised Goldberg-Nash rematch. That was just indicative of the way WCW was pissing all over its audience at this point.

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  174. And Dusty was the booker.

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  175. The thing is, when the stars don't go away, there is noone coming after them and you have to begin from scratch.

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  176. They just kept building things up and not
    paying them off properly.

    See the nWo reform, and watch Goldberg get his revenge! (Goldberg beats Hall then drifts into feud with Bam Bam Bigelow as Hogan feuds with Flair)

    See Flair become president of WCW and get revenge on the nWo! (Flair loses to Hogan, has his own son turn against him)

    See Flair avenge his defeat to Hogan and win his son back! (Flair beats Hogan, but turns heel in the process and becomes mad with power)

    See DDP achieve his goal of finally becoming world champion! (DDP wins title with no build up, immediately turns heel)

    You either never got something the fans would want to see, or whenever you did get it, it immediately turned INTO something the fans didn’t want to see.

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  177. Agreed. Roddy Piper is as well.

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  178. Maybe but not with the style and panache that Scott Norton can.

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  179. I'd buy that except in his prematch promo Piper talked about Brown's bug eyes and huge nostrils.

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  180. I picked a good night to stay up late, hacked or not, Cesaro is burying Vince.

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  181. It's amazing. That's the new kayfabe are the tweets real or not.

    Blame it on the hackers!

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  182. He just posted these

    "This isn't an attack at Cesaro by any means. This is purely me getting my anger out at WWE on Cesaro's behalf."

    and

    " Okay I'm gonna give this back to Cesaro now. Thanks for the fun. Cesaro, your new password is the same just with a 1 at the end"

    Guess it's a hack!

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  183. I like that people are trying to "help" Cesaro by hacking his twitter and attacking his bosses. That'll work!

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  184. Meh. Guy hacks a WWE Superstar's account and that's the best he can do with it?

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  185. It's pretty bad. Post a penis or get a new hobby.

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  186. Lesnar fought so hard for the right to fuck NJPW even harder than he fucked WWE.

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  187. Blew his one shot at glory almost as badly as Matt Hardy.

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  188. In Jericho's podcast Hogan said basically he knew he could put it on cruise control in the States but when he was in Japan he absolutely couldn't fuck around with back rakes. The Muta match is awesome but there is another one on there where Hogan and Muta team against Hawk and Kensuke Sasaki. Cool stuff the pairings they did in Japan.

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  189. Watch Zach Ryder's account get 'hacked' next.

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  190. Yeah seems kinda weak sauce, especially after what happened with Seth.

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  191. Secretary is on HBO. Good movie. Had an ex who loved that movie.

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  192. What a guy. Some wrestlers go out there and do their best every night. The great and glorious Hulk Hogan goes out there on cruise control. HE LOVES THOSE HULKAMANIACS. Just not enough to put in an effort. And you wonder why they call you bitch.

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  193. So far in this thread, it seems as if people are just saying things that happened that they didn't like. I don't think we're quite getting the context correct here.

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  194. I mean..this was a month before Hogan dropped the belt and didn't come back for 8 years so I'm guessing Vince and Hulk were already on shaky terms at best

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  195. Also I'm watching the clip of the Muta/Hogan match. Everyone talks about how stale and boring the WWE product looks today. Man that elevated walkway darkened arena and spot light on Hogan coming out to the ring with a crowd going apeshit looks sooooo much more big time main event feel than anything WWE does today.

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  196. Also, his tag team with Edge helped put the latter over.

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  197. You have to wonder how different the industry would look if the stars didn't have any qualms about putting others over...

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