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Patriot vs Bret


I just re-watched the match from Ground Zero. The promo beforehand highlights The Patriot's achievements in Japan, and throughout the match McMahon refers to him as Del Wilkes. Were there bigger plans for The Patriot beyond this match in 1997? Or was he lost to the cause after Montreal?

​They liked him just fine, but Wilkes tore the shit out of his triceps muscle and he was basically done after Montreal.  He was a good worker and probably could have stuck around for a long time afterwards in the Duggan role.  ​

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  1. I was at the Raw where Patriot beat Bret. Such a great show. But imagine Kurt Angle being in the Patriot role. Angle, wearing the red/white/blue beating Bret in his debut match, IN PITTSBURGH.

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  2. I usually have some kind of comment to make, but I've got nothing.

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  3. That was back before the champ jobbed routinely to put other guys "in the hunt" for the title too

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  4. You do? Because I've never seen you here before.

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  5. ARRRRGH THE BARBARIANFebruary 19, 2015 at 9:12 AM

    Angle was too good to wear a mask. I guess he would have ended up the same, but his original gimmick is one of my favorites of all time.

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  6. I think Bill Simmons made this comparison in one of his Wrestlemania running diaries.

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  7. Yep, been around for years.

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  8. So did Jericho during his podcast interview with Asa Akira.

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  9. I mean him being just Kurt Angle, not using the dumb Patriot gimmick.

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  10. Also, porn has a lot of people taking it in the ass just like WWE likes to fuck its employees and money-paying customers in the ass

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  11. Well, that's horrible.

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  12. Caliber Winfield, everyone!

    He's back.

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  13. Lots of steroids and pain pills don't mix Mell Mr. Welkes

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  14. MaffewOfBotchamaniaFebruary 19, 2015 at 9:23 AM

    ''My question is, what's the difference between the two''

    Not much when Seth Rollins is on Twitter.

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  15. I think he did as well. He most likely would've ended the mailbag with this one, using the Yep, these are my readers bit.

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  16. Bret Hart wasn't champion. He'd win it a week later.

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  17. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 19, 2015 at 9:32 AM

    What in the aquamarine blue fuck did I just click on?

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  18. "Adam" needs some mental health treatment.

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  19. He was supposed to come in without the mask but when it we decided he was working with Bret they felt Bret was too handsome to get booed.

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  20. I hate that porn is so easily available now. Back in my day I enjoyed a good jerk because after staying up until 1am to wait for a 2 minute sex scene I knew I earned it.

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  21. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 19, 2015 at 9:37 AM

    Yeah, for some odd reason I feel like I should contribute to this conversation, but I don't really know what.

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  22. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 19, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    "When I was YOUR age I had to beat off to scrambled porn!"

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  23. I fucking loved The Patroit as kid. I thought he was so awesome and was easily my favorite wrestler of 97.


    That being said, his last appearance made me so fucking mad. DX basically locked him up in a casket and never appeared again. Totally fucked with me because I thought he was gonna get his revenge.


    His match with Bret Hart was real important to me. Blew my mind when he won. Then I read his article on RAW magazine and it fucked with me even more. How can a good role model like The Patriot be a drug addict? I just couldn't understand it.

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  24. He seemed very out of place for '97.

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  25. Jim Cornette on the Patriot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w03DFMU4RbU

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  26. This has to be someone NOT named Adam. Unless it's Edge...?

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  27. u mad.


    (Sorry, I'm in a hurry. No time to go through the whole dog and pony show. Also, that poor dog.)

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  28. Ass GIFs seem oddly appropriate here.

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  29. Was it Caliber or Meekin who was all about being a chubby male porn star?

    Either way, if this emailer didn't identify himself as "Adam" I would've sworn it was one of them

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  30. (Has never done that. Thanks, aunt with the descrambler box and VCR that I occasionally spent a night over at with a blank tape. And no, not in that way you deviant fuckers.)

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  31. Jada fire is *****

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  32. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 19, 2015 at 9:47 AM

    http://dailywrestlingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Tessmacher-bouncing-001.gif



    ..and it's wrestling related.

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  33. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 19, 2015 at 9:48 AM

    She has weird tits.

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  34. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  35. Faye Reagan is also five stars.

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  36. Guess it's time to start reviewing porn like a smark.

    God, Gianna Michaels workrate sucks..................literally.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  37. And this would be whom?

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  38. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 19, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    Skin DIamond has the moves and workrate of a '90's luchadore match.

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  39. Remy LaCroix and Riley Reid.

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  40. Rating it in stars feels weird. But what symbol works for porn... GOT IT!


    Asia Carrera is ##### (5 Pounds)

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  41. Continuing this silly train of thought up above:


    Trade 1-3 female wrestlers for an equal number of female porn stars. The wrestler-porn star side is easy, but which porn stars could make a career out of wrestling?

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  42. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 19, 2015 at 9:57 AM

    Kitten (fitness model)
    Skin Diamond (thin and athletic)
    Alexis Texas (who oddly favors Velvet Sky)

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  43. Patriot was a guy whose gimmick was going to be out of date as soon as the Attitude era hit, but I honestly believe there was money in a heel turn where he'd be Vince's "chosen one" because Vince still lived in the 80s where he believed that Americana was all the rage and doesn't understand why fans aren't cheering for him. Kinda like Bo's NXT gimmick.

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  44. Dat Texas' ass, That deserves gifs.

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  45. Crikey Mate Down Under AussieFebruary 19, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    It occurs to me how sad it is that I can openly discuss porn with my friends, but not wrestling...

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  46. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 19, 2015 at 10:01 AM

    http://api.ning.com/files/o5iH05zeIO6PL-o6mwHp*UHtSxIc4GeqSC0yMKqwPROzsHitUf6WrBNNDePWWmNXyP-mchIshTmnpQ2OvHssZZeIypnIlw4n/432083_o.gif

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  47. Brazilian kid approves.

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  48. Surprised Harts didn't like him, Kliq is more understandable because they hated everyone.

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  49. Greatest. Email. EVAR.

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  50. I was hoping if he returned to the company they would let him do that to Rusev in Pittsburgh. Of course everyone here is afraid he would die or something and Vince isn't returning his calls.

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  51. I never understood why Eve Laurence gets so much love. She's hot sure, but the bitch can't work.

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  52. This is thread is getting too far, it's porn goddamnit.

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  53. I like porn the same way I like my wrestling with everyone working hard and having fun.

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  54. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 19, 2015 at 10:08 AM

    I share because I care.

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  55. Alright, tell us a actress you can stand watching?

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  56. HowmuchdoesthisguyweighFebruary 19, 2015 at 10:10 AM

    Patriot as a foil to austin would of been cool. Feel like attitude era austin missed out on quite a few opponents in programs. Still remember the wwe magazine spread hyping up regal as targeting austin.

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  57. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonFebruary 19, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    Most chicks with large unrealistic implants gross me out.

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  58. Yeah wrestling magazines sure loved Regal. Also remember columns from PWI and WCW magazine where they pegged Regal as a future main eventer.

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  59. Aletta Ocean. She's a fembot.

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  60. Cornette has said the big problem with Wilkes was that the Harts hated him for reasons unknown and in the late 90s locker room, you needed to have someone's support or be on someone's side. Bret and crew didn't like him, Shawn and crew had no reason to ally with him, Taker and crew didn't care about him one way or the other and the company just saw him as another decent worker.

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  61. 1. f**k this backstage politics crap (potentially) getting in the way of good tv (which is all I care for as a viewer)
    2. f**k Kevin Dunn.

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  62. WE'RE HAVING FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNN MAAAAAAAAAAGLE!

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  63. Surprised about the Harts because I figured Bret would be trying to get Patriot on his side as Bret and Shawn were battling for backstage power, Bret needed all the allies he could get.

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  64. I just had an idea that in order to improve what is on the screen for porn, they should include commentary by Michael Cole, JBL and Booker T.

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  65. Cornette seemed baffled as to why the Harts didn't like him, but he said there was a lot of heat there from day one, especially on Owen and Bulldog's part, which is even weirder because when did Owen ever dislike anyone? Hell, most people say Owen didn't even hate SHAWN that much during/after the Bret blood feud.

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  66. Here's another one: my buddy and I have this theory; if you bring a female over for the first time you are less likely to get laid if you have a shelf full of wrestling dvds compared to a shelf full of porn.

    Because chicks think if a guy watches lots of porn he's just a guy being a guy. But if a guy collects pro wrestling dvds? He must be a weirdo.

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  67. Cole: She's just jumped off his cock and creating separation.
    JBL: She's having fun, Maggle!
    Booker: Shucky ducky quack quack!

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  68. Miss Tessmacher, back when TNA was on a channel more than a handful of us had heard about.

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  69. The only time they may have crossed paths before WWF was Bulldog in WCW in 93 and maybe Owen in Japan, so maybe something happened there, but you're right, on the surface it seemed like the Harts would like him since he was a hardworking journeyman.

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  70. For me, the main thing with the Patriot is that I never took him seriously as a threat. I remember when he debuted, I was like: "Bagwell's partner is now in the WWF?"

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  71. In fairness, if the WWE did porn, every tape would be 3 hours long and consist of 2 hours of talking, 30 minutes of people going into the bedroom (with pyro), 10 minutes of actual sex, and 20 minutes for the opening and closing credits.

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