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Brock vs. Reigns: Bomb or Fizzle?

Hey Scott,

How badly do you feel WM fans will turn on the the Brock/Reigns match? Do you think if will be Brock/Goldberg writ large on the main stage or HHH/Orton, with fans filing out after the beginning staredown? I kinda have high hopes that somehow Pat comes in and turns this match into a surprise masterpeice somehow, but all things considered, I feel it'd be equally historic if the thing firebombs out of control.

 thoughts?

​I think it'll fizzle.  They're gonna give HHH/Sting and Undertaker all the smoke and mirrors needed, and the IC title trainwreck is probably gonna open the show at ****1/2 or more, so it's likely that after four hours the crowd is going to be burned out and in no mood for Reigns, but not actively hostile.  ​HHH/Orton is a good comparison point, I think. 

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  1. Could Brock vs Batista have been good, had it happened last year?

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  2. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 8, 2015 at 10:21 AM

    The best thing that Lesner and Reigns could do is go back and watch the 07 Undertaker/Batista matches.

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  3. Biff Kensington Has a PosseMarch 8, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    That match was an excellent big man match, probably the most fun match of that show. There was really no question that Cena was going to beat Michaels, which kind of lessened the fun of that particular match.

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  4. You think the I-C title is gonna be ****1/2? I don't know, there's way too many guys in there. I think it will be a fun match obviously but not at that level.

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  5. I think fan apathy will be more likely than any hostile reaction.

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  6. Biff Kensington Has a PosseMarch 8, 2015 at 10:28 AM

    ***1/2 max.

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  7. I think crickets are more likely than any sort of real backlash.

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  8. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 8, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Really the whole series of matches between them was good. If those two can pull that off I don't see any reason why Brock and Reigns can't produce something similar.

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  9. MITB matches have hit that mark before.

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  10. Problem with the IC title match is that I really don't care who wins. The biggest comparison would be the MITB ladder match. That match is seen as who the WWE thinks who should be the next guy on top. All of these guys in the IC match are guys who have won the title before and, after he wins the title will be put into lame feuds and lose every non-title match.

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  11. Yea, but I'm not feeling this one, especially if they overload on too many guys.

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  12. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 10:32 AM

    I wonder when they put the IC title match on and will it fuck the flow of the PPV up if DBry doesn't win?

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  13. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    To me it's not about who wins. It's what they do with them after they win.

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  14. Biff Kensington Has a PosseMarch 8, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    TJ: The WWE Championship looks BOSS on a white leather strap. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1466/wbelt.jpg

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  15. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 8, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Watching the Triple H/Cena match from Wrestlemania. You can tell that Hunter is having a blast playing the heel with the crowd cheering him.

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  16. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    There's no Shelton Benjamin to do the amazing spots.

    They have the wrong Negro in this match.

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  17. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 10:36 AM

    That is super cool.

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  18. I would love to see a bomb of epic proportions. And even with that I don't think this company will change direction.

    I want to watch wrestling. But I won't do that without a decent product that doesn't insult the fanbase that built it

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  19. Does anyone even care about it at this point?

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  20. At first I thought this would be full on Brock Goldberg redux but after seeing the crowds recently I think they'll just be sitting on their hands, which is worse. Having a predictable main event like this is so dull. We know what's happening and it's going to be forced and boring

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  21. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Hm... Night of Too Many Stars is showing on the comedy network in Canada. I know what my plans are tonight.

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  22. Vince Jordan is going to make fun of you at another forum for this.

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  23. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    If you like Bryan you should want him to lose.

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  24. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    Put white gold behind the main plate instead of the black and i'd like it more.

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  25. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 10:39 AM

    I kinda care in a "divorced from everything on TV, it could be a match I'll be entertained by" kind of way.

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  26. the genius of Vince: he's finally booked Bryan in a spot where the Bryan fans don't want him to win

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  27. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    They can use all the smoke and mirrors they want, HHH/Sting is still gonna suck.

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  28. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    The problem is the IC title is seen as a demotion. Itks the Brie Bella of titles.

    DBry could be used to elevate the title. That would prove his value. if he gets it i want him to turn into a workhorse champ. If that is not the case then don't put it on him.

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  29. Theberzerker, #1 HUSS CHOMPIONMarch 8, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    I'm HOPING for a massive clusterfuck, something like a Bash '91 show but with good wrestling this time so it's actually fun to watch rather than just interesting-at-first-but-quickly-turning-depressing. It's probably going to just be very quiet and lame and just fizzle out though, yeah. But a fun twist on Bash '91 is what I'm hoping for.

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  30. Watching Game Change again (from the beginning this time).


    I think Palin's personal weakness seems to be pride. She takes so much pride in everything that she can't divorce herself from all that's she's done, legitimately accomplished, and her beliefs. Her other major weakness is lack attention to details and only seeing the small things.


    To borrow the SNL term, she wasn't ready for prime-time back in 08. And then her pride destroyed her as a serious candidate.

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  31. Even if they both get 14 minute entrances with lighting effects?


    Even then?

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  32. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 10:45 AM

    Unless Sting uses his old WCW Crow music, yes.

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  33. Someone on Reddit proposed writing Lana off for her movie by having her break Rusev's heart, and then he goes on to discover all of the great things about America with Bayley.

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  34. Definitely a huge missed opportunity.

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  35. I dunno. Triple H had his working boots on last year, he's facing his childhood idol's arch rival this year and Meltzer says Sting's been hitting the gym pretty seriously (though that's been said before).

    I think with smoke and mirrors to patch the holes, it'll be good enough. Not HHH/Bryan, not ****+, but plenty entertaining for a part-timer vs. a retiree.

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  36. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    One and only thing I dig about this match, it's been a long time since someone won their first wwf/e world title at Mania. That's kinda neat. I feel like that used to be a thing. Savage, Warrior, Yoko (...for a sec) Shawn, Austin, Stevie Richards, Batista... Been a while since that's happened.

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  37. Theberzerker, #1 HUSS CHOMPIONMarch 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Even if the actual match turns out way better than expected (kinda like HBK/Flair from WM24), one flop of Sting's straw man hair over his bald spot and one look at his old man frame it's going to feel real sad real fast.

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  38. Watched Clash 28 earlier. Looked up Scott's rant and then read the comments. MikeyMike left a comment asking where Farva has been before we all knew he died. My response: "Dead in a ditch somewhere". Damn.

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  39. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Cena will convert her.

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  40. For it to be like Bash 91 we need Lesnar to leave and have the title held up then make the main event Cesaro vs Reigns for the vacant WWE title

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  41. You need to read Game Change the book. The problem is that she just doesn't know enough to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

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  42. Biff Kensington Has a PosseMarch 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Let me use my crystal ball here. Shortly after the music stops and both men are in the ring...

    Crowd: We want Bryan!

    (Ten Minutes Later)

    Crowd: Boo!

    (Twenty Minutes Later)

    Crowd: [Silence]

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  43. They definitely need to ditch the Russian gimmick at some point if they ever want him to reach the next level.

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  44. Also forgot the part about her being a gigantic hall of fame level idiot.

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  45. Theberzerker, #1 HUSS CHOMPIONMarch 8, 2015 at 10:48 AM

    That would be an exact replica...not what I said. I said a twist on the show, a huge disaster and embarrassment but one that's actually fun to watch. Bash '91 is torturous after a while despite how historically fascinating it is. I want a show that's a disaster but still fun to watch b/c of the good wrestling and...uh...well that's it really.

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  46. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    The status quo is GOD, huh?

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  47. dust off the Lex Express and have Bayley and Rusev go on a road trip.


    of course, if it starts to get good, they'll probably end up in Parts Unknown with fucking Kane.

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  48. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Remember Brock/HHH from 2 years ago? Now imagine if Brock was in his 50s and hadn't had a good match in 20 years. That's what we're getting.

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  49. Vince will be puzzled as to why Shelton isn't doing his usual high spots.

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  50. I was just about to say, that's her biggest weakness.

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  51. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    You forgot the CM Punk chant, but yeah, pretty much.

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  52. She's also like most of the rest of these right wing Republicans - a massive hypocrite. They go on about Government spending wasteful and then they fight like rats in a sack to get as much pork for their State as possible. Just watch anytime the Department of Defence actually tries to close some base or other.

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  53. So apparently Cena pitched a heel turn 5 years ago that was shot down by creative.

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  54. Theberzerker, #1 HUSS CHOMPIONMarch 8, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    A stadium full of people (well, 3/4 full), most of them chanting a massive "DAN-IEL-BRY-AN, CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP" would be AWESOME.

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  55. Theberzerker, #1 HUSS CHOMPIONMarch 8, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    I believe it. He's turned down lots of dumb ideas that were pitched to him as well.

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  56. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Even he's sick of that stale ass character.

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  57. I guess we'll see, though it sounds like you've decided to hate it before it even happens. Kind of hard to win over a guy like that.

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  58. Not knowing anything could have been fixed. But she didn't have time, or the desire to do so. The movie (being a movie and all that), shows her unable and unwilling to work with the campaign people, as well as not taking their advise and focusing on trivial matters like answering emails instead of studying up on learning what Couric was going to ask.

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  59. Biff Kensington Has a PosseMarch 8, 2015 at 10:54 AM

    When he finally turns, provided he's not 50 and unable to work at the same level, he'll be the biggest heel of the last decade easy. They could make serious bank on a heel turn if done properly.

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  60. Hence the pride and lack of attention to detail.


    She's a great candidate for the far right, but nobody else.

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  61. She could have aced that interview and she'd still be an idiot.

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  62. ThebrazilianpsychoMarch 8, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Kanye John Cena. Bring Batista in hollywood mode in you got a helluva a tag.

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  63. Probably. He's sprinkled his promos with digs at his own character over the years. I remember him goofily telling AJ that he's the master of bathroom jokes and juvenile humor when she tried to hit him with a PG "tiny dick" insult.

    And self-deprecation isn't Cena's schtick.

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  64. Thank god she didn't. She would have been a terrible VP, much less the Prez.


    Veep would be a sad documentary instead of a hilarious comedy.

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  65. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    It's not that I'll hate it, I just don't give a shit. Sting's career ended at Starrcade 97 as far as I'm concerned and I've been sick of HHH for about 10 years now.

    Now Taker/Wyatt, that I hate before it even happens.

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  66. Theberzerker, #1 HUSS CHOMPIONMarch 8, 2015 at 10:57 AM

    Turn Cena, align with Authority, set up Bryan/Heel Cena at next year's Mania, ROLL IN THE DOUGH.


    If not, provided he doesn't suffer a concussion on the way to the ring this year, they better do Cena/Taker next year. I mean COME ON.

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  67. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    This new TMNT cartoon is weird. Checking it out with my kid.

    Napolean Bonafrog... It's the Napoleon Dynamite guy doing a frog version of that exact character.

    This is somehow a thing.

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  68. ThebrazilianpsychoMarch 8, 2015 at 10:58 AM

    No Authority, let him be KANYE with Nikki as Kim.

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  69. After 12 years of main events, I'd rather he just pissed off to be honest.

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  70. Theberzerker, #1 HUSS CHOMPIONMarch 8, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    Hmmmm, Samoa Joe on the latest Jericho podcast...

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  71. Going off of the other idea, Lana would return pushing some new, cartoonishly evil Russian and then Rusev, REFORMED IMMIGRANT WITH A BROKEN HEART, crushes him for Murrica!

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  72. He should be a monster heel instead of a chicken shit. A combo of Triple H and standard monsters. He'd absolutely get amazing reactions.


    He shouldn't go Hollywood Hogan or Rock.

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  73. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 10:59 AM

    It won't be done properly. Hell, he acts like a heel now, turn him and he will probably get cheered.

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  74. I still think having him end the streak, and run with a full blown heel turn would have been about the biggest thing that they could pull out.

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  75. Theberzerker, #1 HUSS CHOMPIONMarch 8, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Yeah good luck with that. Only reason the Authority is still around now is b/c they all relate to the gimmick. So much like JBL, it'll never fucking go away.

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  76. ThebrazilianpsychoMarch 8, 2015 at 11:00 AM

    Let me dream!

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  77. That was my idea years ago. Doing the you can't see me taunt while he had a foot on Taker as the ref counted 3 might have caused a riot.

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  78. Ooh I didn't know there was a new cartoon. I hated the movie, and self harmed attempting to watch some of Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation on Netflix. Is it weird in a... good way?

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  79. It's a couple of seasons old and it's awesome.

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  80. Yes. It is awesome.

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  81. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 11:03 AM

    The art is that kind boxy, CGI look. I've only watched an episode so far. I'm not blown away or anything. But, I have heard some people like it.

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  82. They also did a pathetic level of vetting on her. They wanted Hutchinson but didn't want to run someone from Texas again. McCain wanted Lieberman which was never going to fly, so they basically picked her out of a hat.


    She also was overwhelmed by the whole process, which they never really prepped her for either

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  83. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 11:04 AM

    ^ like these guys. These guys seem to like it.

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  84. That was a gerat book. I was disappointed the movie was just about her because the Edwards stuff was just as fascinating if not more. That was quite the election cycle.

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  85. What was odd was she was selected because she was a maverick who stood up to her own party, etc. After the election she became GOP talking points.


    Her resigning as governor to cash in on being Sarah Palin is some shady shit that never gets enough attention

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  86. It takes a couple of episodes to get into it, but the storylines are really good.

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  87. AverageJoeEverymanMarch 8, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    No no no. Needs to come out to Man Called Sting with blonde hair and pretending the last 18 years didn't happen.

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  88. The Edwards stuff is the best part of the book. Also, the deli I used to go to got a shout out as a place where the Clintons go

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  89. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 11:05 AM

    Isn't Lieberman a democrat? He's the reason I voted for Nader instead of Gore in 2000.

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  90. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    That would be fucking hysterical.

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  91. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 11:06 AM

    Hm... My cable company has a bunch on demand. Unfortunately I don't tink it's enough to get a whole story. I'll have to track it down elsewhere.

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  92. John Edwards. What a sleazebag. I thought he was pretty cool at the time.

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  93. Yes, but Lieberman became estranged from his own party after he lost the Democratic primary in 2006. He's BFF with McCain and endorsed him early on in the primary.

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  94. This is what I said the other day. People don't hate Reigns, they just aren't feeling it with him. They aren't going to boo Brock any more than they have in his last 3 matches, even knowing he's leaving. Unless the show has been really terrible up to that point, and/or the two put on a terrible match, it's going to be heatless with Reigns getting a mild pop when he wins. Rollins coming out and cashing in the briefcase afterwards would get a larger reaction than anything in the match itself.

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  95. People still hold onto that McCain/Lieberman ticket as being a good idea, but they polled it and it was utter death, right?

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  96. I'm gonna toot my horn here, but the minute I saw Edwards in the 2004 Democratic primary, I knew he was headed for a scandal. He screamed Bill Clinton-lite.


    I had no idea Elizabeth Edwards was a horrible person. I feel so bad for their kids.

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  97. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    That guy is a fucking wanker. The politician is a class a jerkoff too.

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  98. A lot of cartoons these days are heavy into episodic content. You could do Nick On Demand, Hulu, etc. Even NickToons from time to time will play a few eps in a row.

    I kinda wish I had more time for it, but from what I have watched it's engaging.

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  99. Sounds good! I'll try and check it out

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  100. No Republican was going to get behind it and no one really likes Lieberman. Plus, if you're a Republican, why vote for a 70 year old man when his successor would be a Democrat?

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  101. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 11:08 AM

    Quick questions: Is Krang high pitch like in the original? Is Baxter Stockman a mutant fly? Both of those things are important to my enjoyment.

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  102. Nothing wrong with that. The point is to make people care about him and draw money. If heel Cena draws a crowd then mission accomplished.

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  103. I see no reason why they're not the same person.

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  104. One time Mr. Perfect gave Yokozuna laxatives knowing full well he'd too big for an airplane bathroom.

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  105. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 11:09 AM

    Cool. But, come getting the Napikean Dynamite guy to play Bonafrog? That's a little on the nose, you gotta admit.

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  106. The Kang are an alien race, and Stockman is closer to the comic representation. It's quite good, trust me.

    But the head Kang is voiced by Gilbert Goddifred, does that count?

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  107. Doctor FunkopolisMarch 8, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    The streak is dead, but Taker isn't.

    John Cena should end the Undertaker. Just murder the guy with chair shots and going through tables. Absolutely destroy him.

    You set this up a couple months in advance, have the whole thing built around "respect" and have Cena go ballistic halfway through the match.

    And cult is right, you have him do the one foot pin and "You can't see me" and watch the money roll in.

    And if you can, you have him retire Sting similarly.

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  108. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Anything that makes him even remotely interesting would be fine with me.

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  109. That's a pretty good point.

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  110. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 11:10 AM

    Holy crap! That works!

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  111. Can you guys imagine what would happen if Big Show turned heel?

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  112. TJ: Schefter rumoring Suh a Dolphin; 114 million, 60 million guaranteed........CHRIST and thank god the Giants didn't get him

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  113. Right, anyone else suggesting that the solution to any problem is putting Cena over people strongly gets a smack!

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  114. That's cold. Hilarious, dangerous to everyone on the flight, but cold.

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  115. AverageJoeEverymanMarch 8, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Better yet, Lana take the bus around America to find herself. And turns it into a Bang Bus.

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  116. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 11:12 AM

    Holy crap, the AFC East is buying up everyone!

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  117. As much as I want heel Cena, aligning him with the Authority would be a disaster. It would take all the potential heat of the heel turn and dilute it as just another story. You'd see a slight bump in interest right away, but after like 3 months Max fans would see it didn't really change anything and stop caring. Heel Cena can only work if you eliminate the Authority from the spotlight.

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  118. Speaking of, I would have liked to see a Yoko/Perfect match in 93. Bet it would have been good.

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  119. They had one. I believe it's on Wrestlefest 94

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  120. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 11:15 AM

    EJ Manuel/Matt Cassel, you've just been kicked in the nuts...

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  121. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 11:16 AM

    ... Multiple times.

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  122. The deal the Bills gave Shady is just.....WTF?

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  123. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    What did they give him?

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  124. Doctor FunkopolisMarch 8, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    And then he squashes Bryan.

    And then he makes Ziggler bark like a dog on all fours.

    Then he literally murders Ryder on tv.

    Dean Ambrose slips on the wrapper of the condom Cena pretended to use with Dean's girlfriend and wakes up in Cleveland thinking he's Mick Foley.

    Kane and Big Show squash Cena in ten seconds combined time in consecutive PPV's.

    See, it builds putting people over!

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  125. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/08/bills-break-the-bank-for-mccoy/

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  126. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    ... That's a lot of money. Wow.

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  127. Has a big time FA signing EVER paid off for the Dolphins?

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  128. That's a lot, but actually not structured horribly at least

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  129. Can Bayley join that road trip too?

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  130. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 11:21 AM

    He'll tear is ACL in week 2. Because Buffalo.

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  131. You've won me over!

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  132. ...you know, I figured they had to have hit once or twice but I'm looking and can't find one

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  133. Aw fuck. I've just realised that when Cena retires as a wrestler he's going to be the authority figure on Raw forever.

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  134. Even for the rest of the league it has to be 50/50 at best. Big time free agents are a sucker's bet.

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  135. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Chris Johnson shot in Florida, reportedly.

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  136. Football or baseball?

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  137. Yeah, sports in general, teams overpay for past performance on guys most likely heading into the down turns of careers, but it's sad. I was trying to google dolphins free agent signings and dozens of "biggest dolphin free agent busts" type articles came up.

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  138. Drew Brees
    Reggie White


    Anyone else?

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  139. Doctor FunkopolisMarch 8, 2015 at 11:29 AM

    See, you obviously get wrestling.

    Big Show is so large it's right there in the name!

    And Kane has a million gimmicks that he can ease back into at anytime, plus he's a dentist!

    You've gotta keep those guys strong.

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  140. Not even guys they got shunned on or couldn't close the deal. The ones they signed and bombed out on. Joey Porter, Gibril Wilson, Culpepper to a lesser degree

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  141. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 8, 2015 at 11:30 AM

    As a fellow Giant fan I have to ask. Why didn't you want him?

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  142. I meant successful big ticket free agent signings in general

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  143. Was Brees that big time though? I'd put him in mid level FA category.

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  144. Wallace more recently.

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  145. I would say go. He got a big time contract.

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  146. Brees only got 12 mil in guaranteed money on his first deal. He was only a decent QB coming off of a major injury before the Saints.

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  147. Palin had a naivety and folksiness that could have genuinely been an attraction to the ticket, and I think that's what the McCain people thought they were getting. I still remember watching TV live when they announced she was his pick. All the news channels were like "who?" The only info they had on her was she was the Governor of Alaska and under an ethics investigation. Not a good start. Then she gave that first speech and a star was born. But then you saw her talking to people and it started to sink in that all she had was that persona. She basically played a character to cover up that she had very little knowledge about things, just spouted popular right-wing platitudes... there just wasn't anything there. She certainly still has her fans to this day, but that Couric interview killed her dead. She's like a college student who couldn't even bother to memorize enough answers to skate by on a test: she figured she could bluff her way out if taking it altogether. Well her bluff failed. I mean, Jesus--couldnt name *one* newspaper or magazine that she read, then tried to play that off as a "gotcha!" question...

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  148. ...ahhh, yeah. Eh, Giants-centric but Pierce/Plax/McKenzy got them a ring. Wes Welker's up there too or Deion Niners/Cowboys

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  149. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 8, 2015 at 11:35 AM

    Afternoon thread is up.

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  150. Just in general that money in this sport spooks me. On the other hand, dude's an asshole and better than 50/50 odds he Haynesworths on this contract

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  151. He would've made a killing if not for the shoulder. The Dolphins were gonna "overpay" for him big time.

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  152. YankeesHoganTripleHFanMarch 8, 2015 at 11:43 AM

    I agree with you on the money part. But on the other hand they needed a guy that could take on blockers so guys like JPP can do their thing, and frankly the Giants could use some attitude. Unlike Haynesworth by all accounts Suh works his ass off and loves football

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  153. That was another thing that did her in quickly. Day one, very first speech, her talk of killing the "Bridge to Nowhere", and the media learning within a day or two that that simply wasn't true. (She had even authorized the paving of the road that led to the bridge.) Or her going on about the previous governor having a private plane when it turned out the state recouped the cost of it by using it for other things; meanwhile she was billing the state for meals and lodging, even on occasions when she'd return to her own home. She really was the most poorly vetted political candidate in modern history.

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  154. They might call an audible and have HHH/Sting go on last.

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  155. Maybe. I've never been quite able to get a read on what Steph & Hunter really think of him. But clearly he is for all intents & purposes Vince's other son. You've heard the stories of Cena learning Mandarin to help expand WWE in China? Even if he's not a TV character, he will be there behind the scenes for years. As long as Vince is still alive. After Vince dies...?

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  156. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    The cgi version is not bad.

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  157. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    Him snapping out of frustration for not being able to pin Take. Would have worked.

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  158. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 12:05 PM

    Self depreciation actually fucks it up for his opponent because it takes away any verbal comebacks.

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  159. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 12:09 PM

    Too bad he didn't do the "Kanye Batista" gimmick first. With Nikki Bella on his arm he would gotten major heat.

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  160. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 12:10 PM

    Yes x 100000000000.

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  161. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 12:17 PM

    It would be like everyother time he did it?

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  162. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 12:19 PM

    The storylines are very good. They also make the turtles more distinct.

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  163. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    Has the new season started? Last i saw things got so bad that the Krang ran the turtles out of NY.

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  164. Listen to 1:30 to 2:15 in this older clip of Triple H talking about how WWE listens to the fans every night. It's HHHilarious:
    http://youtu.be/ZNOnt3qMeXk?t=1m30s

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  165. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    Sorry. Posted then went away. Football.

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  166. NEVER put HHH on last!

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  167. They could've easily built this Mania on USA vs. Russia, Cena vs. Rusev, by going all patriotic and getting guys like Hogan and Slaughter involved and in Cena's corner.

    Of course, WWE runs with "Old Grizzled Vet vs. Young Heel Who Refuses to Give Him a Rematch" instead, because WWE.

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  168. "Lukewarm" MrJustinBMarch 8, 2015 at 12:28 PM

    Hm... WCCW premiere of the Freebird Michael Hayes. Start to a great angle. Watching for the first time. Kinda excited.

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  169. One big time FA signing COULD'VE paid off for the Dolphins, but they didn't pull the trigger. Thanks, Nick Saban, who dat!

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  170. "Ohhhh, okaaaaay...everyone see my arm's getting twisted behind my back here-uh?"

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  171. I don't know why they haven't run something like that gimmick before. The company travels to new cities all the time, how come you can't give some guy a gimmick of being a foreigner who visits the sights of all these different cities?



    You can run it as a face or heel gimmick, the heel just goes to 2nd rate attractions and verbally trashes them.



    I now really want to see this gimmick that'll never happen.

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  172. Crikey Mate Down Under AussieMarch 8, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    Where did he go?

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  173. And what the shit? Cena gets kicked in the nuts and is all "Well shucks I couldn't beat Rusev. How about that Battle Royal?" And not "THIS MOTHERFUCKER KICKED ME IN THE NUTS I HAD HIM BEAT GIMME MY REMATCH"

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  174. I could have written the above. No interest in Sting/HHH, actively hating idea of UT going over Wyatt (and looking awful in the process) after the streak is already over. Retire already old man.

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  175. the fan "backlash" at GAB91 is vastly overstated. Watched it on the network a few months back and was shocked at how normal the crowd was for 90% of the show. Even the reaction in the main event was more muted than I was led to beieve by posters and reviewers over the years.

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  176. she was picked because the GOP somehow thought voters were so stupid that HIllary supporters would flock to McCain simply because he had a women VP, despite the fact that she was diametrically oppossed to Hillary on 99.9% of the issues. It was a transparent move and laughably simplistic. McCain wasn't winning either way but it also backfired horribly.

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  177. Lot of people like to claim they saw his fall coming and all that (and a few might have, but it's kinda like the million people who now claim to have been at Wilt's 100 point game) but I openly admit I was an Edwards fan and supporter. Unlike HIllary and Obama, Edwards actually talked about specific plans to help the working class and middle class instead of paying lip service (and we know Hillary is bought and paid for almost as much as the GOP by Wallstreet and Obama certainly has shown no desire to take on Wallstreet in 6-7 years). He seemed to me to be someone who "got it" when it came to making real reforms and sensible regulations to improve the lives of the middle 80% of this country instead of the rest who pay all the attention in actual proposals to the bottom 20 and the top 1% while merely paying lip service to the hard working middle.

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  178. The outdoor stadium is gonna hurt the heat a bit too.

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  179. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonMarch 8, 2015 at 1:06 PM

    Will is be cold?

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  180. Very true. They literally unleashed their flacks on TV to say "hey--disgruntled Hillary supporters, look at what we got!" Like having a woman candidate was going to make people switch party affiliations. The level of misogyny, racism and breathtaking stupidity that went into that entire campaign... still unbelievable.

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  181. If the show has been decent overall and they lay out a match that plays to both guys strengths then I can see them snatching a narrow victory from the jaws of defeat. I realize those are both pretty big ifs, but I'm trying to be an optimist these days...

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  182. Yeah dont see any smarkfest rebellion during the match. big stadiums harder to get chants going anyway. The next night on raw is when smarkmania will take place

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  183. Dont see it. There will be some but by that point most will be burned out or just leave

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  184. and duggan. US vs USSR is a classic rivalry and this should be the modern chapter.

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  185. Raise your hands if you're surprised. I'll wait.

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  186. Wiki is saying new episodes start tonight. Won't have time to watch them, but I'll catch up at some point.

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  187. Also, there are quite a few eps between when the Kraang ran them out (end of Season 2) and tonight.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_%282012_TV_series%29_%28season_3%29

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  188. If I were a 1%'er Silicon Valley guy... I'd buy out the arena and make them do RAW to a completely empty building.

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  189. Really unique spin on a fresh topic. Great question.

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  190. You are aware that that's not a documentary, right?

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  191. Honestly, the Couric interview did very little damage, SNL is what ruined her. No one gives a fuck about Katie Couric. Voters are idiots and think the Daily Show is a political news outlet.

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  192. You wouldn't be a 1%er for long.

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  193. Worked at 'Manias 16 (until the very end), and 20-22. It's Big Babyface HHH going on last that doesn't work, as evidenced by 'Manias 18 and 25.

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  194. Well, Steph was apparently the one who greenlit his rapper character (which saved his career). HHH seems to be less fond of him, but that might be a combination of jealousy and dislike for his non-traditional colourful character.

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  195. Michael Turner is one of the best FA signings ever.

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