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Jim Cornette talks to Newsday about being out of -- but still in -- the wrestling business

Jim Cornette no fan of today's pro wrestling - Newsday
Jim Cornette decrees the wrestling business is no more, then a few minutes later rattles



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  1. Jim Cornette hasn't been a fan of today's pro wrestling for 20 years now.

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  2. "Spear! Spear! Spear!" and just about any attempt at getting the audience to chant something really lame.

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  3. The Melina/John Morrison interview just after the Heel turns on Foley. It went on for ages, and just made them look like they weren't ready.

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  4. Every time Michael Cole tells me something is funny.

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  5. That's the one I was going to post on. I think they opened RAW one week and were just lost out there.

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  6. R-Truth's current trend of screaming, "Whoomp there it is!" is up there.

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  7. Cornette's only 53? Holy shit, I never knew he was that young.

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  8. Lex Luger struggling with tearing his shirt off is high for me:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMrInHzvOa0&index=4&list=PLSBKtXjWufGMdeL6dANInvEQhYvrA4zxA

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  9. Have we forgotten Sid losing mid-thought, going "Let's try again" and JR telling him "we're live, pal?"

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  10. When the rock was trying to get cookie puss over

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  11. Much as I enjoy the guy's talk, his whole "let's go back to how it was 25 years ago and everything will be great" mentality ignores the tiny fact that audiences have shifted. Sure, he goes to "tastes won't change" but they do. If anything, Bill Watts proved that when he tried to put 1970's style booking and presentation for a 1992 nationwide audience and that didn't go well. I agree, a lot of things back then were great but just as many problems too and like it or not, fans today may not go as wild for it as the "old-timers' expect.

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  12. Ctrl-F "Russo"


    No results? I didn't think he had it in him.

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  13. Yep, he was super young when he broke in.

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  14. Cornette is the crankiest bastard and I love him for it.

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  15. "Stop trying to get tag happen, Amy!"

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  16. The clip of Hogan talking shit to Vince on a Smackdown prior to their Wrestlemania match. He stumbled over the same line like 6 times. I almost felt bad for him.

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  17. Remember the one week HBK was in the wheelchair and tried to get "TRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII" over as a nickname for HHH?

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  18. If I grew up in the real kayfabe days like Cornette and like 99% of people on Wrestling Classics, I'd probably be the same way.

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  19. All the insanely stupid chants Jericho tried to get the crowd to do during his promos.


    I honestly think he tried them JUST to see if it'd work for shits and giggles.

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  20. Everything Hornswoggle ever did in WWE except the WeeLC match

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  21. "Keep it up MY NIGGA!"

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  22. I will always remember the day Hogan lost in a verbal battle to a pretaped promo.

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  23. I'd love to hear Cornette rant about Reigns. It'd get 50 fucking fucks about Roman's stupid fucking hair flip and how he looks like he's fisting a fucking asshole; how he gives the dumbest fucking promos and fucking smirks at the camera like he's Jimmy fucking Fallon; how the fucking story makes no fucking sense; and how the fucking ratings are fucking tanking even though he's up against Brock fucking Lesnar at WrestlefuckingMania!

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  24. Roman Reigns any time he says words out of his mouth.

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  25. HB-Shizzle. Nothing else even comes close.

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  26. BROGUE! BROGUE! BROGUE!

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  27. What does that even mean?

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  28. Nothing says relevant like a 50-something white dude dressed like redneck Jesus making twenty year-old rap references.

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  29. That doesn't really say anything though. Another non-article article.

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  30. Jim Cornette has something to say? This is big news!

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  31. I've seen this a dozen times and I still don't understand why Lex is talking to a giant plum.

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  32. I did too. But no matter how fond the memories, we can't go back to those times, just like we can't go back to disco.

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  33. Nah, he was great when he first debuted on Smackdown. Once Vince realized he had a little person on staff and got a hold of his character that was the end.

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  34. When Triple H, who has more nicknames than Christ himself, was called, "The Ace of Spades". Enough fucking already!

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  35. Have you listened to pop music in the last three years? Have you even heard of Daft Punk?

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  36. Put Jim Cornette and Kevin Nash in a locked room with no food or water until they both agree on a full booking plan for Wrestlemania 31. I'd love to see what they come up with.

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  37. So badly they couldn't even chop it out of the taped show

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  38. Cornette hasn't been a fan of wrestling since SMW died.

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  39. There was that bit...god help us...where DX went underneath the ring and encountered Little People's Court. That was awful enough, but the fact that they lit the way with their DX glow sticks was beyond cringe worthy.

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  40. Long story short: disco's back.

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  41. God I love that promo on the side of the Rock

    "Can you just skip to the part where you rip the shirt and do the pose and WHATCHUGONNADO BLABLABLA RACKLE RACKLE RWCKLE RACKLE"

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  42. Nash: "I'm still getting paid, right? I can milk this for a few days."

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  43. Groovy. I'll just pop on down to the local discotheque and check it out.

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  44. Daft Punk have been around for like 20 years. Crazy.

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  45. When he hid under the ring and helped Finlay win matches? I never liked that. Finlay had a fine gimmick as he was -- an Irish ass-kicker. Why pair him with a leprechaun?

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  46. "You say your name is Finlay and you loce to fight. I say your name is Finlay and you're a BATHURD!"

    There's a reason "soft spoken" was a part of Lashley's gimmick

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  47. They only broke big at the beginning of 2013 thanks to "Get Lucky."

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  48. The 1970s and 80s ideas could work, but it would be on the younger talent to make it modern. That's how wrestling always worked.

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  49. No, the kids go to dive bars nowadays.

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  50. CAUSE HES IRISH DAMMIT! YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW THIS BUSINESS WORKS, DO YA, PAL?!

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  51. To be a little fair to Shawn, he knows it makes no sense. According to him, it was an inside joke gone out of control

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  52. The Lil Bastard. Especially with JBL on commentary. You can tell he loved the guy

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  53. Wasn't there one where there's a gag involving Hunter getting a blow job from Candice Michelle?

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  54. No, they were both getting oral:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZkky9n20c

    HILARIOUS

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  55. I just don't get how... Like, OK, Hogan has his own schedule, but how do you not make sure to see the video to promo against so you can make sure you're not going to look like an asshole?

    IT WAS A VIDEO and yet Hogan looked like Roman Reigns improving against it.

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  56. ThebrazilianpsychoMarch 7, 2015 at 9:57 PM

    On Robocop?


    Yes.

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  57. I think we can agree that Stan deserved that superkick, at least

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  58. "Da Funk" and "Around the World" were pretty big in their day.

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  59. Abbie Cornish huh? Pretty hot.

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  60. I liked Test joining the Alliance so Austin lets him cut a promo and he goes: NOTHING GOOD HAS EVER COME OUT OF THE STATE OF TEXAS and Austin has this dumb look on his face

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  61. What do you mean can't go back to disco - it never left did it?

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  62. He's just a fucking head now? lol

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  63. Thought the same. He carries on like he's a crotchety 80 year old man

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  64. Yes but it also gave us the What chants which are by far the worts things audiences do.

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  65. Lots of heel victories at WrestleMania 3

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  66. I approve

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  67. *They'd* have you believe it.

    Not that it's true.

    Remember, they create everything that's good.

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  68. The third go round where they were constantly shilling merch had its moments.

    06 was garbage.

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  69. WWE's shitty in-ring promo style encourages them to do it.

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  70. Most of that stuff, from what I can remember, was self-aware and actually making fun of themselves because they knew they were older family guys who weren't "hip" any more. I thought most of the "Chef HBK" stuff was pretty hilarious.

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  71. You're thinking of the third go around. The second go round they didn't have that awareness.

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  72. Stranger in the AlpsMarch 7, 2015 at 10:20 PM

    If you have been thinking of checking out the Shawn Michaels book "Wrestling for My Life", be forewarned that it's a little bit of wrestling and shit ton of Jesus.

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  73. Just about any time the announce team laughs at anything.

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  74. That time Hornswoggle painted a tunnel on a wall like a roadrunner cartoon and ran through it. Than Carlito tried to run through and smashed into the wall.

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  75. Except people do it. So at least it's a successful sort of lame.

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  76. Hey, Community did that.

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  77. If you're not streets ahead, you're streets behind.

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  78. I thought the same thing when I saw that Heyman's not even 50 yet.

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  79. Shawn screaming about how they got his leg and Triple H corpsing was pretty great.


    Yeah it was two millionaires effectively masturbating on television, but at least somebody was having a good time.

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  80. If Charlotte, who's hardly a fully-formed mic worker can shut down those chants, than the rest of the talent has no excuse.

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  81. Shawn superkicking everybody backstage was funny

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  82. The Dungeon of Doom. Holy shit!

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  83. Mary Hart, one of the rare celebs who looked genuinely excited to be there

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  84. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 7, 2015 at 10:35 PM

    Truth Martini on commentary. Or any RD Evans promo.

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  85. Stacy Keibler trying to get "Testicles" over as a way to refer to his fans. Gawd.

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  86. Okay, and this bit was funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0u90_UEFMM

    But the other 90%? Lame

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  87. So assume disco is short for discotheque and my point stands.

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  88. I love this clip of Ivory ripping on Triple H's 20 minute promos. Later on she talks about how he always was jealous of Austin, Rock, and Taker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jfAy_8Ea9g

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  89. I thought the skit where shawn was working as a line cook was pretty good

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  90. Didn't Sid used to say something like 'mama said it be that way sometimes'?

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  91. mayb im crazy but is wcw better than wwf in 93 . watching battlebowl the roster seem to be working as a team here and i am buying alot of these wrestlers as real threats. plus i like this battlebowl concept too

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  92. Anything involving Head was awful.

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  93. Any time Mark Madden tried to get a Kevin Smith line over on commentary. "Snootchie-bootchies!"


    Also, him screaming "SPINAROONIE!!!!!" for Booker T ruined that moment.

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  94. No, that was a fake out. He still may have done some damage there though.

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  95. Jesse Ventura gives Hogan all of the props in the world for beating Andre but then once he celebrates too long he's right back to hating him.

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  96. That was one segment out of like 475 DX segments during those years

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  97. Anything Mark madden said would qualify.

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  98. Hey, people can say what they will about the Austin turn being the wrong business move but it was ABSOLUTELY the right entertainment move. That was my favourite period of his career - he was funny, weird, scary AND having awesome matches. As someone who doesn't own WWE stock, I couldn't care less if that turn helped tank business. It entertained me greatly!

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  99. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 7, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    Man, this thread is fucking dead.

    Random thought about skateboarding, and surfing I guess: how the hell do they keep their feet on the board?

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  100. Agreed. Austin going heel might have been an awful business mood, but him as the paranoid leader of the Alliance was hilarious.

    I absolutely love the Vince/Austin/Angle skits that came later. They honestly could've made a sitcom about the three of them.

    How can you not laugh at Kurt Angle in a little cowboy hat?
    http://www.wrestlingforum.com/signaturepics/sigpic192606_3.gif

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  101. Roody Poo or Slapnuts are equally awful!

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  102. The HLA segment with Bishoff when he tried to get the crowd to chant HLA. WWE had HLA t shirts in their catalogs so they were trying to make that a thing

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  103. Eva Green needs to get back into that market.

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  104. I could never get behind Jericho's 'shut the hell up' bit.

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  105. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 7, 2015 at 11:10 PM

    When it comes to shit like that no one should care.

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  106. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 7, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    I always thought she was hot.

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  107. According to Cornette logic,I can't like Star Wars because I'm aware they're actually just guys in front of a blue wall and not real space heroes.

    Anyone actually ever watch SMW? I used to watch in the 90s when I was watching ANYTHING wrestling. The big angle was this one guy was retarded and he liked cats so Tammy sytch and Chris Candido killed his cat so he beat up Candido and then the slow guy and Cactus Jack pay their respects at the cat graveyard while "he ain't heavy,he's my brother" plays in the background.
    SMW was the fakest bullshit ever devised. You'd have to actually be a smoky mountain resident to be dumb enough to believe it. Roman Reigns is 100 times better,hell,that Halloween havoc electric chair match has more realism,so I don't get his whole "wah wah kayfabe" crap when his stupid southern bullshit was faker than anything Vince ever did. And more insulting to your intelligence.

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  108. That's asinine. Around the World,Digital Love,One More Time,harder better faster stronger,come on.

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  109. I don't know if you watch NXT, but for a while Jason Jordan and Tye Dillinger were basically Troy and Abed.

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  110. Any character portrayed by RD Evans is pure gold. That guy is hillarious.

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  111. Burt Macklin, FBIMarch 7, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    My cousin has skateboarded all his life and I still do not understand how the process happens.

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  112. So, we've heard that Daniel Bryan isn't very aggressive behind the scenes in putting himself over, something that, apparently, Vince McMahon doesn't like. So, my question is, does Sami Zayn put himself over behind the scenes? Since both he and Bryan don't have the traditional look that McMahon likes, if Zayn were to get over on the main roster and was more aggressive about his own success behind the scenes, would he have a better chance of succeeding than Daniel Bryan?

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  113. McMahon would never push Zayn, period.

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  114. I never liked jericho in the wwf. Lame

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  115. Roody poo candy ass was awesome!

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  116. RD Evans is a god!

    The greatest streak since Goldberg!

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  117. I love how Cornette thinks that wrestling could maintain kayfabe in this day and age. Come on- in the age of the internet? You can't keep ANYTHING away.

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  118. None of the invasion should have been funny. Main eventers shouldn't be singing in bad skits

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  119. He's so bad.

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  120. Yes! In late 97. Even Jim Ross was like "trrii?! Oh please"

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  121. Yeah, he really looks like shit for his age. Always did. Christ, he was MY AGE in about 1994, and looked almost 50 THEN.

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  122. Territories play to their audience, not the entire world.

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  123. AverageJoeEverymanMarch 7, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    Uecker rules in everything.

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  124. Adam "Colorado" CurryMarch 7, 2015 at 11:44 PM

    But when guys do try to get themselves over they get buried...

    Senile old fucking idiot...

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  125. I don't like any rock catchphrase attempts post 2000

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  126. I can't believe she's over 50 years old in that clip. Holy FUCK did she age well.

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  127. Spear spear spear too Mr Copeland

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  128. The invasion angle turned me off to wrestling for over 10 years

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  129. Hot Lesbian Action. It was an attempt by Bischoff at creating controversy on Raw by having two chicks make out. But before they kissed, he had the 3 Minute Warning beat them up.

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