It's really haunting just how closely they resemble WCW these days. I wonder if anyone's actually tried saying that Vince? If there's ANYTHING that would truly send him over the edge, it's that.
This is so well done that it's scary. I was watching the Monday Night War and felt that literally everything said about WCW from 1999-2001 could be applied to WWE today... and then someone did it! Tremendous...ly frightening.
I watched the OSW review of the 2001 Royal Rumble last night. Besides the fact that the roster was just stacked back then, there was an energy to the presentation that is just gone today. Immersive camera angles, more energetic music, pyro, and other elements just made the show feel alive. Watching now is like watching 93-94 after having seen the Hulkamania era.
Amen and after slapping us in the face by making a cruiserweight vanilla midget like Daniel Bryan WWE Champion theyre trying to make things right by giving Roman Reigns the WWE Title....
Dutch is a philosophical guy. The best line I've heard attributed to him was "I liked this business better when the marks were out in the seats and not here in the locker room"
And firing the Divas. Retiring the diva belt - retiring all the belts except tag, IC and world - and putting the UC title on Tito and the world title on Hogan.
That was excellent. It's kinda amazing reading recaps and watching the hardcore fans basically shrug week after week. From my standpoint, even when it was bad before, everyone seemed invested in CM Punk, then *really* invested in Bryan, and now there's nothing left except rooting against Reigns and it's depressing, yet oddly fascinating.
Even funnier is that Scott Keith reviewed the Uncensored Doomsday Cage Match yesterday and it was only a few weeks ago they had Bryan & Reigns vs. Every Tag Team on SmackDown.
Jesus people, everything is fine. The shows are hot, people LOVE Roman Reigns, they just need to get out of those smarky smark towns that have people booing them. They are NOTHING like WCW. Because WWE is still in business.
That's why it's hard for me to turn away. I have zero interest left as a fan but I watch more as a social experiment just to see if there is a breaking point somewhere, either by the fans or Vince.
I don't know. Re-reading KB's Nitro '99 reviews points out that, poor as WWE may be, it's still not the same "oh, god, my soul is dying watching this" horrible late WCW was.
They do give WCW props in that series on how the cruiserweights were amazing and how the NWO was so revolutionary from the start. And it's not like their shots are any worse than in "Death of WCW' or slews of online columns over the years.
That cruiserweight episode was horrible, though, since they covered how good it was for like 15 minutes, then got into how all the cruisers weren't transferred to the main event picture right away. And then it was all, "look how well WWE used these guys!" even though it basically took WWE longer than Eddie and Benoit were in WCW to make them world champions, and Rey's reign was no great shakes.
I did like the part where they talk of WWE trying their own light heavyweight division and it didn't work. I know, it's biased to WWE a lot but I was surprised how they gave more props to WCW than expected (like going out of the way for guys saying Goldberg wasn't meant to be an Austin clone but his own guy). Besides, we know if WCW had won, they'd be doing something as biased to their side.
But it was preceeded by the fantastic Lesnar/Cena/Rollins bout which made the show worth it whereas with WCW then, it was pretty much crap all the time. I'm not blind, I see the issues and such and agree it's poor now but at least they are trying to build new guys like Rollins and Reigns instead of superstars of a decade earlier who are barely mobile.
Let's say someone from the future had shown you this in, say, 1997. Seeing HHH on the cover of the DVD wouldn't your logical reaction be "Well, he must have started fucking the boss's daughter or something!"
Well that's frightening.
ReplyDeleteI've just realised cultstatus' avatar is from the Royal Rumble. *nods*
ReplyDeleteIt's really haunting just how closely they resemble WCW these days. I wonder if anyone's actually tried saying that Vince? If there's ANYTHING that would truly send him over the edge, it's that.
ReplyDeleteWhomever wrote those subtitles needs destroying.
ReplyDeleteComing soon to the CM Punk Network!
ReplyDeleteWhat do they show on there? Anti drug speeches mixed with young girls that look like their 14?
ReplyDeleteThis is so well done that it's scary. I was watching the Monday Night War and felt that literally everything said about WCW from 1999-2001 could be applied to WWE today... and then someone did it! Tremendous...ly frightening.
ReplyDeleteI watched the OSW review of the 2001 Royal Rumble last night. Besides the fact that the roster was just stacked back then, there was an energy to the presentation that is just gone today. Immersive camera angles, more energetic music, pyro, and other elements just made the show feel alive. Watching now is like watching 93-94 after having seen the Hulkamania era.
ReplyDeleteThat reminds me, Dutch still on contract?
ReplyDelete''Wrestling fans are the most loyal fans in the world...until you slap them in the face''
ReplyDeleteSuch a good line.
The New Generation was AWESOME!!
ReplyDeleteSeriously. That's all they've done to us for the past year.
ReplyDeleteI can see a world where Vince watches this and buries the shit out of anyone on contract thinking it's real.
ReplyDeleteNot enough Vince and his deep thoughts while lifting weights.
ReplyDeleteAmen and after slapping us in the face by making a cruiserweight vanilla midget like Daniel Bryan WWE Champion theyre trying to make things right by giving Roman Reigns the WWE Title....
ReplyDeleteYou just realized this?
ReplyDeleteIt's always bugged me. But I've never dared to rewatch the 2015 Rumble. It's not my finest hour sure.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised this video wasn't posted April 1st.
ReplyDeleteYour avatar is from The Nightman Cometh *nods*
ReplyDeleteIf this goes viral, it will somehow result in Ziggler getting blamed and buried.
ReplyDeleteI...what?
ReplyDeleteSarcasmatroll.
ReplyDeleteI'd say the best line was at the end from Bryan: "There is only so much bad television you can watch before you stop wasting your time."
ReplyDeleteWhich DVD are most of these clips from?
ReplyDeleteRise and Fall of WCW I believe.
ReplyDeleteGimmick troll has a bad gimmick.
ReplyDeleteSo does TNA put this out?
ReplyDeleteDutch is a philosophical guy. The best line I've heard attributed to him was "I liked this business better when the marks were out in the seats and not here in the locker room"
ReplyDeleteWWE could solve all their problems by rehiring Tito Santana, Don Muracco, and King Kong Bundy.
ReplyDeleteAnd firing the Divas. Retiring the diva belt - retiring all the belts except tag, IC and world - and putting the UC title on Tito and the world title on Hogan.
ReplyDeleteI thought so as well but I could've sworn he had that before the Rumble. Guess not.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if that was shot before or after Kane attacking Bryan and Screamy Bella in the car.
ReplyDeleteHe also renamed Steve Williams as Steve Austin. This should keep him employed forever.
ReplyDeleteThe interview clips are all from the Monday Night War series on WWE Network. All the negative quotes were about WCW
ReplyDeleteAmazing job! I'm guessing New Japan releases this lol?
ReplyDeleteVince: Ziggler! The son of a bitch! I keep giving you chances to be in there with Kane and Big Show and this is what you go and say? You're done pal!
ReplyDeleteHHH: No, Vince..Vince this is not real.
Vince: The hell it isn't! I saw it on the typewriter screen!
HHH: ...ok. No, it's called a parody. It's something they do on the internet...
Vince: THESE BASTARDS DID THIS FROM IN THE BUILDING?!
HHH calls Dolph
HHH: Dolph? Yeah..it happened again. I know. Yeah, I'm trying to get him to demote you to NXT so he forgets about you for awhile.
Vince: YOU ON THE PHONE WITH HIM, PAL? YOU TELL HIM I'M STILL PISSED OFF HE DIDN'T GIVE ME A COPY OF HIS SINGLE! I PROMOTED THAT RECORD, DAMN IT!
HHH: He still thinks you're Jeff Jarrett, too.
That was excellent. It's kinda amazing reading recaps and watching the hardcore fans basically shrug week after week. From my standpoint, even when it was bad before, everyone seemed invested in CM Punk, then *really* invested in Bryan, and now there's nothing left except rooting against Reigns and it's depressing, yet oddly fascinating.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. It was funny the first time but now there's like 5 of them. They're not even original.
ReplyDeleteEven funnier is that Scott Keith reviewed the Uncensored Doomsday Cage Match yesterday and it was only a few weeks ago they had Bryan & Reigns vs. Every Tag Team on SmackDown.
ReplyDeleteYeah, sums up what's going on right now perfectly.
ReplyDeleteI believe so.
ReplyDelete"We're not like WCW."
ReplyDelete:Video proceeds to show scary similarities.
Also, yeah! New Legacy Inc fan is gonna get his big recognition.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbKsqEUMZHU ...TJ : the video led to this.
ReplyDeleteYet most of us keep watching....go fig....
ReplyDeleteWhat a smarky smark video.
ReplyDeleteJesus people, everything is fine. The shows are hot, people LOVE Roman Reigns, they just need to get out of those smarky smark towns that have people booing them. They are NOTHING like WCW. Because WWE is still in business.
Well that was fantastic.
ReplyDeleteI think there was a lot I remeber from the Monday night wars series.m
ReplyDeleteAs one of the comments says, there's nowhere near enough views on that to be taken seriously and it's been up since yesterday. Shame.
ReplyDeleteBecause we feel that they will change even when they won't. We love pain.
ReplyDeletehow about this one: these trolls are just as mediocre as Reigns is right now.
ReplyDeletea bit more effort please!
ReplyDelete"He still thinks you're Jeff Jarrett" is what puts this over the top in a good way
ReplyDeletesign me up.
ReplyDeleteThis was hilarious
ReplyDeleteThat's why it's hard for me to turn away. I have zero interest left as a fan but I watch more as a social experiment just to see if there is a breaking point somewhere, either by the fans or Vince.
ReplyDelete10% less are watching every year according to the ratings.
ReplyDeleteExit's that way.
ReplyDelete^Reminds me of Baghdad Bob. :)
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I don't know. Re-reading KB's Nitro '99 reviews points out that, poor as WWE may be, it's still not the same "oh, god, my soul is dying watching this" horrible late WCW was.
ReplyDeleteThey do give WCW props in that series on how the cruiserweights were amazing and how the NWO was so revolutionary from the start. And it's not like their shots are any worse than in "Death of WCW' or slews of online columns over the years.
ReplyDeleteOn NJPW World for YEN999 a month!
ReplyDeleteIs it that far away from it?
ReplyDeleteI'm beginning to think that part is true. Kit would explain a lot.
ReplyDeleteIt's sad that we don't have anyone to root for. Only people to root against
ReplyDeleteJust downloaded a copy (since I expect this to be pulled). Thanks, KeepVid!
ReplyDeleteThe 2015 Rumble match didn't give you that pain?
ReplyDeleteThat cruiserweight episode was horrible, though, since they covered how good it was for like 15 minutes, then got into how all the cruisers weren't transferred to the main event picture right away. And then it was all, "look how well WWE used these guys!" even though it basically took WWE longer than Eddie and Benoit were in WCW to make them world champions, and Rey's reign was no great shakes.
ReplyDeleteI did like the part where they talk of WWE trying their own light heavyweight division and it didn't work. I know, it's biased to WWE a lot but I was surprised how they gave more props to WCW than expected (like going out of the way for guys saying Goldberg wasn't meant to be an Austin clone but his own guy). Besides, we know if WCW had won, they'd be doing something as biased to their side.
ReplyDeleteBut it was preceeded by the fantastic Lesnar/Cena/Rollins bout which made the show worth it whereas with WCW then, it was pretty much crap all the time.
ReplyDeleteI'm not blind, I see the issues and such and agree it's poor now but at least they are trying to build new guys like Rollins and Reigns instead of superstars of a decade earlier who are barely mobile.
Let's say someone from the future had shown you this in, say, 1997. Seeing HHH on the cover of the DVD wouldn't your logical reaction be "Well, he must have started fucking the boss's daughter or something!"
ReplyDeleteSo good.
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