Thunder
Date:
October 28, 1999
Location:
Cox Arena, San Diego, California
Attendance:
5,091
Commentators:
Larry Zbyszko, Mike Tenay
Reviewed by Tommy Hall
The
company has been turned upside down in the last week and a half as
suddenly there's a World Title tournament for the vacant belt,
wrestling doesn't matter, and the Filthy Animals are ALL OVER THE
PLACE. Now to be fair that means Torrie on TV a lot more so maybe
this isn't all bad. Heaven help us with whatever Thunder is going to
become. Let's get to it.
Opening
montage.
Juventud
Guerrera vs. Evan Karagias
This
is a rematch from when Bret interrupted their match on Nitro a few
weeks back. Evan misses an early dropkick and gets headscissored
down but Juvy stops to pose. He spends too long though and gets sent
into the buckle so Evan can hammer away in the corner. A spinwheel
kick drops Evan but he reverses a suplex into one of his own.
They're starting to pick things up a bit. Juvy nails a dropkick and
a headbutt before yelling at the fans.....and here's Sid so never
mind.
Sid
actually doesn't destroy them and lets Juvy leave. He says he's
undefeated and has proof that Goldberg didn't beat him. Sid throws
out an open challenge to anyone in the back and Juvy comes back in to
sit on the ropes. Thankfully that's just a red herring as Benoit
comes out to accept the challenge. Sid promises to cripple Benoit
tonight and chokeslam the cruiserweights to restore our faith in him.
The
announcers chatter about Benoit.
The
Maestro is in the back and talks about being the star of the show.
This character is as much of a disaster as Berlyn.
Chavo
Guerrero is looking for Goldberg because he wants TV time.
Prince
Iaukea vs. The Maestro
Good
grief end this show already. Iaukea dropkicks Maestro as he turns
around so Maestro points a finger at him. THE DEVASTATION! We get
into some basic stuff with both guys trading wristlocks until Maestro
slugs him into the corner. A whip sends Prince across the ring and
Maestro follows him up with even more punches. Prince chops and
backdrops for two but eats a knee lift and gets caught in an STF (the
Encore) for the submission. Short, bad and the Maestro vs. Prince
Iaukea. I think that sums the whole thing up.
Quick
recap of the Revolution vs. the Filthy Animals with Torrie being
kidnapped on Monday.
Perry
Saturn/Dean Malenko vs. Silver King/El Dandy
Shane
says Asya is keeping Torrie wherever the Revolution wants her.
Malenko threatens to break Benoit's legs on Monday in their
tournament match. The Revolution throws their victims to the floor
but Silver King comes back in for something like a running DDT to
Saturn. Dandy comes in for a double drop toehold and a double kick
to the chest to keep Saturn in trouble.
Back
to King but Dean offers a distraction and Saturn kicks Silver in the
face. It's off to Dean for a basement dropkick and a lot of
spitting, setting up Saturn's top rope knee. The Revolution takes
King outside for some choking before a suplex/high cross body combo
gets two. King gets in a few shots for the tag to Dandy for a
missile dropkick to Dean. A plancha takes Saturn down as well
(barely touching him but the dive looked good) but Dean nails Dandy
with a chair, setting up the Cloverleaf for the win.
Rating:
D+. Another squash here and a
bit better performance from the luchadors than I was expecting. That
being said, we're two days into the Revolution vs. Animals feud and
I'm already sick of both teams. Neither is likeable in the slightest
and the Revolution has gone completely against their original idea.
This was acceptable but at
least it didn't involve the Animals.
Chavo
searches for Goldberg.
Long
recap of Nitro. This felt like filler.
Harlem
Heat is ready for Curly Bill tonight but Chavo interrupts to talk
about looking for Goldberg.
The
Revolution gets in a car.
Curly
Bill says there are no problems in the Rednecks and he needs to go
back and tend to the moose on his ranch. Gene doesn't think ranches
have moose and Curly goes off on him about being the real cowboy
here. Ok that wasn't bad.
Stevie
Ray vs. Curly Bill
Oh.....joy.
Stevie jumps him at the bell and stomps away in the corner as Booker
is on commentary, talking about facing Jeff Jarrett in the
tournament. Stevie misses a middle rope elbow but no sells Curly's
shoulders and kicks him in the face. They head outside with Curly
going face first onto the announcers' table (Booker: “ARE YOU OK?”,
followed by a right hand to the face). Back in and Stevie gets two
off a side slam but the referee gets bumped. Dear goodness enough
with that nonsense. Curly hits him with the boot but Booker comes in
for a hard Harlem side kick, setting up the Slap Jack for the pin.
Rating:
D-. This
ref bump stuff has to stop. There's one on almost every show now and
they're not even in the main events. This was a three and a half
minute squash but the squasher needed a ref bump to win. That
doesn't make sense and misses the entire point of basic wrestling
booking.
Konnan/Kidman/Eddie
Guerrero vs. Steven Regal/Chris Adams/Dave Taylor
Before
the match, all of the Animals talk about wanting to do various things
to the Revolution, including playing them like marks. Rey jumps in
on the announcers' table to talk about the Revolution. Taylor goes
right after Eddie to start and avoids an early dropkick before taking
Eddie down with European uppercuts and a basement dropkick of his
own.
Off
to Adams, who gets caught by a rolling clothesline from a crotch
grabbing (his own at least) Konnan. As Rey tries to get money out of
Zbyzsko, Konnan jumps over Adams in the corner but eats a European
uppercut from Regal. Off to Kidman who sends Regal into the ropes,
nearly knocking Adams off by mistake. Kidman throws Regal down but
charges into a hot shot to change control again.
The
Brits start stomping away until Kidman blocks a powerbomb. Konnan,
ever adherent to the rules, comes in to nail Adams without tagging.
Kidman charges into Regal's elbow in the corner and it's off to
Adams, who goes up and tries.....something resembling a Superman
Punch but crashes down. The hot tag brings in Guerrero to clean
house as everything breaks down. Eddie hits a quick suplex on Taylor
and a big frog splash is enough for the pin.
Rating:
C. Not the worst match in the
world, Filthy Animals annoyance aside. They're
just unlikeable people who ramble on with lingo that ranges from
sounding stupid to making no sense while seemingly want to rape every
member of the Revolution. Somehow, one of the most likeable
wrestlers of all time in Rey Mysterio is associated with this group
and WCW seems to think the fans will find them to be the good guys.
Oh
and the Filthy Animals steal the losers' robes for good measure.
Chavo
is on the phone, saying he's going to get himself over since Goldberg
isn't here to do it for him. Wrestlers using this lingo today would
appeal to an extremely niche audience. In 1999, this might as well
be Martian.
Berlyn
speaks English to say that his master plan is in effect and we will
all serve him one day. His plan is to lose to Brad Armstrong?
Chavo
Guerrero Jr. vs. Lash Leroux
Lash
says he's going to win the tournament and be the younger World
Champion ever. I think Giant still has his beat even if he wins.
Chavo comes out and reminds us that he's looking for Goldberg for no
apparent reason. Lash goes right after him to start and does his
splits but misses a clothesline, allowing Chavo to hook a
headscissors.
A
belly to back gets two for Chavo and he slugs away in the corner.
Lash jawbreaks out of a chinlock and gets two of his own off a
supelx. That goes nowhere so Chavo takes him into the corner for a
stomping but gets forearmed in the head, setting up a chinlock. We
get a very sudden BORING chant which almost feels piped in.
I
would ask why a company would do that, but this is one of the least
stupid things WCW has done in recent weeks. More really basic stuff
changes control a few times until Chavo gets a positive reaction and
a near fall off a dropkick. Guerrero scores with a clothesline and
some chops in the corner, only to get caught in Whiplash for the pin
out of nowhere.
Rating:
D+. So Chavo wants to find
Goldberg, gets cheered by the fans and then loses to Lash Leroux.
Somehow they've managed to fit that much plot into about 75 minutes
after Chavo having almost nothing to do for weeks. If they could
find a happy middle ground, I'd be curious to see where some of these
ideas went. As it is, I barely remember them by the end of the show
because of how fast they come and go.
Kidman
records Buff Bagwell and Scotty Riggs talking about the finish of a
match. I think I know where this is going and I can feel the
headache coming.
Ernest
Miller, flanked by three women, gets out of a white limo. So he's
the Godfather now? I've heard worse ideas.
Berlyn
vs. Jerry Flynn
Just
cut the cord already. During the entrances, we hear that WCW is
filming a movie in Los Angeles. My goodness it's Ready to Rumble
time isn't it? Berlyn goes right at him and hits a kind of floatover
DDT before cranking on a wristlock. Shouldn't that be the other way
around? They trade kicks before Berlyn sends him into the ropes for
a kick to the face, a nipup and another dropkick for the best looking
sequence he's done in years.
More
kicks to Jerry set up a belly to back but Flynn avoids a charge
against the ropes. Jerry fires off his usual array of strikes but
throws in some right hands to show his versatility. The Bodyguard
intercepts Jimmy Hart (who is the face here anyway?) and nails Flynn
for missing a charge, giving Berlyn an easy victory.
Rating:
D. He's evil, German and
apparently athletic when he wants to be. This character is dead in
the water though and they need to find something else for him to do.
That's one area where Russo truly was excellent: finding a new
character for someone. The words “creative has nothing for you”
do not exist on his watch. The gimmick might be insane and
ridiculous, but he would have something.
Chavo
is still looking for Goldberg but finds Sid instead. “YOU WANT TV
TIME?” A chokeslam leaves Chavo on a cart, end scene.
Here's
Ernest Miller with the three good looking women. After telling the
rednecks to sit down, he informs us that he'll be in the tournament
on Monday against doctor's orders. THIS warranted coming to the ring
and talking?
Benoit
thinks Sid is running his mouth too much. I'd say it's more that
he's wrestling too much but that's just me. Benoit isn't done with
Malenko either.
Scotty
Riggs vs. Buff Bagwell
Some
things never change. We recap Buff's kayfabe murdering story about
not wanting to job ever again because he doesn't care for the Powers
That Be. This would be the REAL part in the middle of all the fake
stuff you're seeing. I have no idea if Bagwell is a face or a heel
here and I think that's the point. Riggs doesn't have the mirror
anymore. They trade full nelsons to start until Buff breaks out and
just stands in the corner.
Tenay
promises us eight more tournament matches on Monday. Be still my
beating heart. Riggs gets taken down in a headlock but walks into a
dropkick to send him into the ropes for more staring. Some leg work
keeps Bagwell down and a high cross body gets two. Riggs looks
stunned because, I kid you not, that was supposed to be the finish.
The referee yells at Bagwell but he small packages Riggs for the pin
with the referee slowly counting it. Bagwell's music doesn't play
and THAT WAS A SHOOT. BECAUSE FANS KNOW WHAT THAT IS!
Rating:
F. “Come see Buff Bagwell!
He's bored and not trying because he doesn't agree to our scripted
finishes! By paying us your money, you'll get to see him stand
around and not care and barely put any effort into his matches!”
Vince Russo was paid to think of this idea and then asked you to pay
money to watch it play out on pay per view. Russo somehow convinced
people he was a genius by doing this. Maybe he's smarter than we all
are and we just can't keep up with him.
Mayhem
ad.
Chris
Benoit vs. Sid Vicious
Please....be
gentle? Sid shoves him
around to start and fires off some kicks to the ribs (Daniel Bryan
has nothing to worry about) followed
by a right hand to the jaw. Benoit
comes back with strikes of his own and a middle
rope dropkick for two but
the kickout sends him flying out to the floor. Back
in and Benoit flashes back to Fall Brawl by going after the leg. Why
he thinks Sid will sell now is anyone's guess.
A
few cannonballs down onto the leg look to set up the Figure Four but
Sid kicks him right back to the floor. This time the big man follows
him out and drops Benoit across the barricade before
taking him back in for choking, choking, forearms to the chest and
more choking.
Benoit's
comeback is stopped cold by a big boot and we hit the camel clutch so
Sid can rest after his hard day in the ring. A
few slams get two each on Benoit but he pops up and grabs a German
suplex. The Swan Dive misses but Sid is too spent to follow up,
allowing Benoit to slap on the Crossface. You know Sid isn't tapping
though so here are Saturn and Malenko for the DQ.
Rating:
D+. So to clarity, Benoit is
now the guy that puts up a good fight against the bigger names but is
never allowed to be on their level. Thanks for wasting our time with
the Bret tribute match and the US Title reigns, because it's pretty
clear that none of it means anything just a few weeks later.
Sid
powerbombs everyone to make it clear that no one is on his level.
The Filthy Animals run out to beat up the pieces of the Revolution to
end the show.
Overall
Rating: D. I
can't believe I'm saying this but Nitro was more entertaining than
this. Thunder continues to be almost nothing beyond average and
makes us sit through a ref bump in a Curly Bill vs. Stevie Ray match.
The wrestling is bad, the
stories range from nonsensical to previews for a Nitro way too
complicated to keep track of. Yet somehow, I'd take this over the
recent episodes. At least this is so insane that it's fascinating to
watch in a way while the
recent ones were a way to cure my sleepless nights.
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Thunder is really starting to fly off the tracks. They should have kept Nitro at three hours and pulled the plug on this and cut their losses.
ReplyDeleteI wish they would have. Thankfully Nitro gets cut to two hours in January.
ReplyDeleteLos Fabulosos!
ReplyDeleteHas there every been a Vince Russo interview/shoot where he's taken to task for some of these storylines? Like, 'What was the idea with Buff Bagwell and what was the end game to that?'
ReplyDeleteI haven't listened to any Russo interviews, but his standard answers are something along the lines of "not my fault, they didn't let the ideas play out."
ReplyDeleteThe only one I ever remember is the Wrestlecrap Podcast from 2005 where he said people would tune in to watch Tank Abbott and David Arquette as WCW Champions because nobody would know if they would be losing the title on that show or not.
ReplyDeleteYou'd be wrong about Lash. Giant was 23 when he won the strap, the Cajun Sensation's all of 22 years old here. Laisser Les Bon Temps Rouller, I Gua-ron-TEE!
ReplyDeleteAnd which Vince?
ReplyDeleteApparently it's good news for people who hate flippy mask wearing shitheads.
ReplyDeleteThe 619 totally missed, looked like he was already gone before Rey attempted the move.
ReplyDeleteThe craziest part for me; aside from how horrible and sad the whole incident is but the fact that it seems, as everyone has stated, the move that probably killed him was the drop kick that sent him out of the ring (the video I saw was too far to the left to actually see the impact of him hitting the ropes, which I'm kind of glad that I couldn't actually see it but you can tell in the video that he must have hit them pretty hard because the ropes are shacking violently. I have no desire to find another video. I fought with myself even watching any video. The part I saw was enough and will probably stay with me for a long time) yet even after such an impact that would leave him motionless just seconds later he climbs back in the ring and puts himself in position for the 619.
ReplyDeleteAnybody else who hurts themselves to that degree would have stayed on the outside of the ring, called for someone to help. but as a wrestler his only thought was to keep going and get ready for the next move. I don't fancy myself a doctor, or truly know how the human body works that it can have such a severe injury yet continue to function for just a few seconds more before it shuts down. Unless he didn't realize himself how hurt he truly was. It's just crazy and sad and a terrible moment for wrestling.
I don't know if him getting medical attention faster would have helped save him.But I have to believe if someone had started performing CPR immediately it couldn't have hurt. Someone should have realized that wasn't a normal position he was in. Usually when someone get's knocked out their body goes stiff, not limp like that. Think of all the times you've seen a football player get knocked out in a game and their arms goes up in the air in a frozen position. Perro's body was lifeless. But then again none of those guys are doctors. How are they supposed to know?
My only other thought is that there had to be some other pre-existing condition; whether it was a heart condition, or something wrong with his neck, or he was on a bunch of drugs (sorry he was a wrestler, it's a possibility) but considering how many thousands of thousands of wrestlers have done moves like that millions of times none of them have died. There is always more then meets the eye when things like that happen. However, it is a reminder of how small the separation of life and death is for all of us.
In the blink of an eye we can all be gone. Fucking sucks.
Shut Up Meekin.
ReplyDeleteDDP better not go on her show again.
ReplyDeleteBut.....you're Meekin.....
ReplyDeleteAdjective or verb?
ReplyDeleteThey did a bit in the Timeline
ReplyDeleteThe lesson is clear.
ReplyDeleteDON'T FUCK WITH REY MYSTERIO.
"Who wouldn't tune in to see me as World Champion?" Evidently a lot of people.
ReplyDeleteWell, it's not like he took his ice cream.
ReplyDeleteUntil Arquette goes complete Benoit or Charles Manson, he'll always have my respect for trying to turn down his "run" as World champ, realizing it was stupid, but being good enough to donate his earnings from this time to Owen and Pillman's families.
ReplyDeleteRusso is an underpants gnome.
ReplyDelete1. Start a nonsensical angle, try to include some variation of a pole match.
2. ???
3. RATINGS!
Vince Russo was actually wrong--a luchadore CAN get over in America apparently
ReplyDeleteThankfully Nitro gets cut in about 17 months.
ReplyDeleteActually, that was unfortunate, because at rhe beginning of 2001, it seemed like they might have been, and were trying to turn the corner.
I'll still never understand Bischoff unmasking Rey, in WCW.
ReplyDelete"Hmm, think we could make millions selling replica Rey Mysterio masks? Nahh!"
Hell of a heel turn be Rey.
ReplyDeleteYou think Shane Douglas and Pitbull #1 had heat?
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of heat, I'm going to hell.
Too soon bro
ReplyDeleteThat fucking sucks. I'll watch the video next time I feel the urge to dust off the ol' Over the Edge '99 VHS and pause it to see if I can see anything.
ReplyDeleteIn honor of Meekin, here's a QOTD: What type of person shouts "Oh, what a scholar!"
ReplyDeleteI attended some BS lecture (100% not by choice) on some horseshit psychological topic that was related to teaching. Guy was a ph.d and a professor at a well known undergrad.
Some woman next to me kept shaking her head agreeing the whole time as if he was talking to her personally 20 rows back.
Then when the lecture was done she stood up and applauded with the program (?) in her hand and said "Oh, what a scholar!" Not loud enough for him to hear but loud enough for 6 rows to hear.
What kind of person is this?
I understood the unmasking of Juvi. That boy was pretty, and I'm guessing he wanted more tail. Rey? That is an ugly man, if I recall correctly.
ReplyDeleteHis bottom bitch?
ReplyDeletePlus, it got heel heat for Jericho. Outsiders I think was mostly a case of "why not?".
ReplyDeleteAlthough I assume Nash/Bischoff figured it'd get heel heat for them as well. Vince for all of his faults, especially lately, saw dollar signs immediately with Rey's mask.
ReplyDeleteAustin turned his in-ring mishap into The Attitude Era. Some people just don't have *it*.
ReplyDeleteThe fuck's the Daily Thread?
ReplyDeleteWell, it was his first non-WWE match in years, I believe. When Dominic hangs himself from a ladder next to a picture of Eddie, then maybe we'll hear from Nancy Grace. They're Mexicans.
ReplyDeleteThis is it, bub. Go, Cincinnati.
ReplyDeleteI don't know why but it just occurred to me that it would be totally badass if Randy Orton had a cat follow him to the ring for his matches.
ReplyDeleteA Grumpy Cat?
ReplyDeleteMore like an evil looking cat. Parts of Randy's gimmick is that he's a sociopath and coming to the ring with a cat trailing him just seems to fit
ReplyDeleteWCW took Rey Mysterio and unmasked him.
ReplyDeleteWWF took Fake Diesel and masked him
Which one got more over?
I've seen this exact headline already on an article on FB.
ReplyDeleteRock's take on whether Roman Reigns is ready for the main event, tl;dr version: He's being pushed pretty soon like how I was and the fans don't like it, but the match is set in stone so at this point he's either ready or he's not.
ReplyDeleteFor all those complaining that using Rey Mysterio's name in this headline and the headline that most news sites are using is clickbait. Can I point out that he is FAR the biggest name on that show let alone in the match and he hit the last move that indirectly caused the death.
ReplyDeleteClickbait would be if Mysterio simply appeared at the show completely separately to this match and yet was still reported in the headline.
"But I have to believe if someone had started performing CPR immediately it couldn't have hurt."
ReplyDeleteCPR does no good if your brain is disconnected from the rest of your body
Where's Herbert West when we need him?
ReplyDeleteSpot-on headline over at SquredCircle on Reddit:
ReplyDelete"Roman Reigns is like a video game we were soooo hyped for, that got rushed out of development way too early. Now we're all confused, waiting for the patch."
"indirectly caused the death" might be a bit of an overstatement. Mysterio's drop kick was the last contact with Perro, but we don't quite know what caused the death direct or indirectly.
ReplyDeleteYeah, on a purely superficial level, Rey looked a lot like Peter Lorre. Not something you want from a babyface to look like one of the more villainous character actors around.
ReplyDeleteWatching some random show from the two world title days really shows that they at least got something right. John Cena as WWE champ and Jack Swagger getting pushed as another world champ is just a weird dynamic.
ReplyDeleteNow that's funny right there.
ReplyDeleteWell, cause, you know. Mexican tradition?
ReplyDeleteNah. Guess not.
My first thought? I'd be hoping he punts it into the stands. Because fuck cats.
ReplyDelete(No, not really. We have 7. I'm just fucking tired of them.)
Just caught upto date with The Flash and i'm amazed they managed to pull off Firestorm on a tv budget without it looking like shit.
ReplyDeleteIf Vince had just kept Rey in the WWE a little longer this wouldn't have happened..
ReplyDeleteBy the way... everything that happens in wrestling is ultimately Vince's fault.. pretty much a given.
Something looks fucked up with the way Aguayo rolls forward right before the Rana to the outside. Like he just tries a forward roll and then stumbles. Maybe just a mis-timed move. The Rana looks pretty neck-cranky, and the Dropkick looks a little stiff. I wonder what happened?
ReplyDeleteI liked the random Swagger owns Orton dynamic.
ReplyDeleteRey Mysterio: "THE GIANT KILLER"
ReplyDeleteFunny how his outlook as the guy's cousin is more measured than Jericho's, all flavored with "shut the Hell up"s and the like.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I'm not much of a Japan guy, but today, I also learned that Misawa died in the ring. I honestly had no idea.
ReplyDeleteYeah, happened a few years ago, it was tragic as well.
ReplyDeleteI have one cat. One's enough, (did you read the lyrics to my song, Bow Down to the Cat)
ReplyDeleteI don't know why, but the way Konnan violently shook Perro really bothers me. I know that he was probably dead at that point, but still....
ReplyDeleteJust waking up to this news, and I don't even ... I've only been following lucha closely for about a year, but to attempt to make an American wrestling comparison, this would be like if Randy Orton died in the ring during Steve Austin's WWE comeback match, with Hulk Hogan at ringside. Perro was still one of the top heel performers in Mexico, if not the top heel. And while he wasn't in his prime (35 years old), he still had some years in the game left ahead of him. Mysterio is of course an iconic figure in Mexican wrestling. And Konnan (who is at ringside and looks like one of the first people to realize something's wrong with Perro) is of course one of the most important figures in Mexican wrestling history in front of the camera and behind the camera. And I don't know if this was at the actual Rey del Reyes show of if it was a house show or something, but Rey del Reyes is like AAA's Survivor Series. So imagine Orton dying during Austin's comeback match, with Hogan at ringside, at Survivor Series 2015 in Los Angeles.
ReplyDeleteI wish Rey Mysterio would stop murdering people.
ReplyDeleteSadface. :(
Um. No.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to write lyrics advocating powerbombing cats, I'm in.
Good thing Kurt Angle wasn't around to cut a promo on this poor guy..."Whats the big deal? I die in the ring all the time. I died in the ring this morning and I'm fine. Try winning the Olympics with a broken freaken neck."
ReplyDeleteWho put Perro in the sky? R-E-Y Mysterio.
ReplyDeleteThis is awful for everyone involved, including Manik (a.k.a. Suicide in TNA) and Xtreme Tiger (Tigre Uno in TNA), who are the respective tag partners in the match. I keep thinking of D-Lo Brown and how the Droz incident happened while he was pretty young in the sport and it almost derailed his career and still haunts him to this day. As far as I know -- of course you don't really know with masked luchadores -- Manik and Tigre are pretty young and have promising careers. Being in the ring when this happened, it could damage them for a long time.
ReplyDeleteSo I finally got the WWE Network so I can see Wrestlemania next week. Only cost me $9.99. That's a really great deal, I wish they advertized that otherwise I would have gotten it a lot sooner.
ReplyDeleteI like how this news is being reported as "match involving ex-WWE star." I bet that makes Vince freak out.
ReplyDeleteNever mind a daily thread, I think we now need an night thread.
ReplyDeleteVince has NO idea this happened yet. Nor will he, unless the media calls him directly.
ReplyDeleteYes, that headlines are supposed to convey the most important information in the smallest space.
ReplyDeleteRey bring in e ring makes this a much bigger news story, no gives a shit about the other guys
I don't think we've gone without a Daily Thread is in one to a year when the Daily and Evening Thread became standards. Funny that on Tuesdays and Wednesday's we wouldn't have an evening thread
ReplyDeleteHe's Manik in TNA, as well, now; has been for a while
ReplyDeleteExcept that he has different gear - think what Rollins wears (including the shirt, and his mask is no longer all encompassing and is instead something akin to but much better than Aldo Montoya
It's not as much of a trainwreck as it sounds
I wouldn't write a song about that. However he was being bad one day so I gave him and F5. Then I gave him another another one to show I was serious. Then I gave him a third cause hey 3 worked on The Undertaker. He...he no sold all three. My cat might be able to give Lesner a run for his money.
ReplyDeleteKind of like how WWE always had KotR on PPV but not a PPV all 12 months, but then suddenly there's a PPV every month but not one of them is KotR
ReplyDeleteAnyone else wondering what kind of "King" entrance Triple H will have this year? Wouldn't it be badass if he was carried to the ring on his throne as a tribute to the Macho King?
ReplyDeleteAnd that's only b/c it happened in 2015
ReplyDeleteNot only the when, but the where. Not in a WWE ring? Who gives a fuck?
ReplyDeleteSo....you don't think it would be cool to pay tribute to Savage the night after his HOF induction?
ReplyDeleteOnly if the carriers have an "accident" and dump him off the ramp down to the bare ground.
ReplyDeleteNo one would interpret it as a tribute to Savage
ReplyDeleteThats a terrible way to honor Randy Savage?
ReplyDeleteI think it must feel (or at least must have felt) horrible for someone like him who is obviously a fan to be vilified by so many fans for that run that he had to be convinced to go through with.
ReplyDeleteNope. In his biographies, he constantly says this was all great. Hell, he still thinks David Arquette as World Champion was brilliant with "hey, it got people talking, right?"
ReplyDeleteIt really was this time when it was clear the bigger stars were refusing to sink to Thunder but stick to Nitro. Not that it was much better there....
ReplyDeleteI know it's been said ad nasuem but this once more proves the key problem of Russo's WCW tenure: That he honestly believed every single fan read the Internet constantly, knew all the lingo and everything and thus would get his "clever" breaking of the fourth wall and such with jobs and things. That he never understood we prefer the illusion to work is the reason he was doomed to fail.
ReplyDelete