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Chyna in the HOF and Big Show

Hey Scott,

Without saying it directly, it seemed like HHH was referring to Chyna being in Playboy and having a sex tape that is keeping her out of the Hall of Fame and presumably why she isn't invited to any reunion specials. Yet has anyone thought to remind HHH that Shawn was in Playgirl? Or that X-Pac was in the very same sextape as Chyna? Am I wrong, or is this just another case of HHH's pettiness? Or something more?

Also, we all talk about the frying pan hands of the Big Show, but nobody ever brings up his typewriter-like forehead. I think that was a trope that Tazz used on a few occasions. I guess you need to see it in person to really appreciate the size of Big Show's body parts. (I should know, I was at Unforgiven '06.)

Sorry to bring so many naked wrestlers to mind... at least I didn't bring up Hogan's sex tape.

​Is there a hidden camera in this e-mail?  

Also, I'm pretty sure Chyna's rampant drug problems and public meltdowns have as much to do with her exile as her sex tape.  Probably moreso.  ​



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  1. It seems like alot of people don't realize Chyna had more than a "sex tape". She did several hardcore anal movies for Vivid, including a WWE parody where she had sex with pornstars portraying Vince and Stephanie McMahon backstage, and participated in a Royal Rumble gangbang where she had sex with parodies of everyone from Triple H to the Rock to Bret Hart.

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  2. I think WWE's problem is with Chyna taking on multiple dudes at once, not appearing in Playboy or a terrible sex tape.

    X-Pac ain't going in the HoF as a lone pick anyway. He'll go in with DX, but that's it.

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  3. When did X Pac sneak into the WWE Hall of Fame?

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  4. Benoit might get in before Chyna. The sun will explode before either happens.

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  5. To be fair would you admit to seeing those videos? I wouldn't.


    Plus that video where she dressed up as She-Hulk, that was totally gross and it lasted forever. I mean uh...

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  7. HBK in Playgirl didn't include any frontal nudity. You saw just as much of him as you did in the WM X ladder match.

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  8. Tell me more, and you can have my money.

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  9. Really? Both the Royal Rumble and She-Hulk spoofs sounds like camp classics!

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  10. Hmmm, on the Attitude DVD they are defending their current PG and say that it was too extreme back then. You say, that the nWo cool heels killed the nWo in the long run. Are you all then implying that WCW and WWF should have stayed the same as they were in 95? Lame ass boring wrestling companies?

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  11. What was so funny about what Nash said? His use of the word adjective?

    Why were you supposed to hate them? They were two guys from the Yankees walking into Boston saying that Boston was horrible and they were going to show everyone how to play baseball.

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  12. The sun is always exploding. Solar flares, yo.

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  13. Charlie Brown: You're the only guy I know that could find something wrong with the Outsiders Angle.

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  14. I wish they would do more of this stuff today. What about an NXT invasion angle?

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  15. She's also made some nasty accusations about Triple-H on Russo's podcast so that's not going to help matters.

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  16. Last time they tried that Cena ended going over the whole faction on their first PPV after having his team turn on him and taking a bump on an exposed floor.

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  17. I think he means the heels never got their comeuppance and all the WCW faces ended up looking ineffectual for not being able to beat them.

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  18. A lot of these things popping up at the moment.

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  19. Hall and Nash alone were cooler than the majority of the WCW roster. The only one who didn't look lame after the nWo took over was Sting after he started the Crow thing which was Hall's idea.

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  20. Yeah! A group of guys that are tired of waiting for their shot! The NXTus!

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  21. Cena beat The Shield all by himself?

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  22. Wait til you see Big Show's sex tape.


    Frying pans simply don't cover it.

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  23. But does the outcome change that it was one of the best and most successful angles in wrestling EVER?

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  24. She was on VH1, that should be enough to keep her out.

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  25. Not according to Val Venis

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  26. If someone filmed themselves eating out a girl pretending to be your daughter, while getting banged someone else pretending to be you, you would probably find them pretty fucking creepy and not want them anywhere near you either.

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  27. Yeah but, this is Vince were talking about. It'll be some minor slight completely unrelated to porn, she probably said putting Batista over in the Rumble wasn't a wise move or something.

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  28. Doctor FunkopolisApril 22, 2015 at 4:14 AM

    They were fine until Sting beat Hogan. At that point they needed to change in a big way. Beating Hogan down, clearing out the refuse and dropping the cool heel act for a more vicious one.

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  29. Considering some of the strangely disturbing stuff Vince has done over the years with/to his family, he might have a real tape of that.

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  30. I agree it was successful, but the Angle revolved around heels telling people WCW sucked , Sting was the only hero and his victory didn't last long. It just meandered and had no follow up causing the whole structure of the show to collapse because there was no end game other than keeping NWO as the main focus. By the time it was over nobody was worth a damn and they hadn't created any new stars, Goldberg could have been ANOTHER chance to shake things up but they even screwed that up to keep the NWO guys happy.

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  31. Almost more baffling than Smark JBL Love is why smarks don't like cool heels anymore.

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  32. Smarks love Flair. Flair was a cool heel.

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  33. The SHIELD weren't really trying to take over and ended up to be working for the owner of the company anyway so I don't really see that as an invasion. Nexus attacked Heels, Faces, the owner, destroyed the ring and pretty much declared war before it was wasted anyway.

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  34. I agree that they didn't handle the story well in the long run, but in the meantime it was the best thing ever. And I didn't even mind that the nWo grew larger and larger, because it gave midcarders something to do and made them interesting. And it made it believeable that they can takeover WCW, because only 4 guys wouldn't have been that impressing threatening a whole company.

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  35. Because it's been over a decade and it got stale probably.

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  36. Well, back then Nexus were presented as rookies, but NXT today is more like a different company.

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  37. Making way for needing someone like Goldberg to stand up to them, only this time without the NWO shenanigans to derail him, then when that gets stale maybe turn him into a psychopath that will do anything to keep his streak alive and have DDP or Booker T beat him?

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  38. There is only two criteria to get into the Hall of Fame:
    1) do you currently have issues with Vince that money cannot smooth over?

    2) do you currently have issues with Triple H/Stephanie that money cannot smooth over?

    If either of those questions is answered with "yes", it ain't happening.

    Plus, do you honestly think anyone wants to put a live mic in her hands? Guys like Backlund and Mr T are crazy enough as it is

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  39. Wasn't Hogan Knows Best on VH1?

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  40. They liked CM Punk. And Brock Lesnar. And Seth Rollins is also IMO a cool heel. And JBL wasn't cool in any way.

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  41. The nWo angle should've ended at Starrcade 1997 or, at the very least, be the beginning of the end. Instead Eric Bischoff decided that he liked being in a fake biker gang too much and kept it going

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  42. Easy to say, but what about the time after? Turn Hogan face in yellow and red again? While WWF had Stone Cold Steve Austin rising?

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  43. Burt Macklin, Man Without FearApril 22, 2015 at 5:16 AM

    I think a logical way to go after Starrcade was splitting off Nash to the Wolfpack and then feuding Black and White and the Wolfpack in 1998. Do War Games Hollywood vs. Wolfpack at Fall Brawl then blow off nWo for good at Starrcade 1998 Hogan vs. Nash and either do Goldberg vs. Sting for the title or Goldberg vs. Bret Hart.

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  44. Never was a big fan of Nash at all. Hall I liked a bit more. Ric Flair was right. The reason the 4 Horsemen endured and the NWO died a gruesome death is because the Horsemen never really won many matches together. They'd still be arrogant pricks and talked like they'd won but in actuality their opponents almost always came out stronger than they went it. The exact opposite occurred with the NWO. They destroyed everyone on the roster for 2 1/2 years. Then when their heat vanished, WCW had nothing to build off.

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  45. ROCK-em SOCK-em Robot!!!!April 22, 2015 at 5:30 AM

    I'm pretty sure Chyna currently listing "porn star" as her occupation on her taxes is what's keeping her out of the Hall of Fame.

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  46. The Braves would be more appropriate.

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  47. ROCK-em SOCK-em Robot!!!!April 22, 2015 at 5:43 AM

    Chyna intentionally filming a hardcore anal three way with parodies of Vince and Steph might make her the only person to hit 1 and 2 at the same time.

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  48. I liked Nash as Michaels' non-wrestling muscle. I never liked Nash again once he stopped being that.

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  49. Doctor FunkopolisApril 22, 2015 at 5:56 AM

    I think you build Goldberg up, have Hogan run wild on an original nWo remnant, have DDP and Benoit as guys fighting the vicious version of the Wolfpac. And it all comes down to Hogan laying down for Goldberg and Goldberg winning the race to the top and winning the world title.

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  50. But the Horsemen were never there to take over the WCW. They were "just" a stable. They were not there to threaten WCW as a whole.

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  51. We don't? News to me.

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  52. "Cool heels" that never get any comeuppance and make the babyfaces look like idiots are no different than Stephanie McMahon's self-serving, emasculating bullshit. It's just presented in a different package.

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  53. Nash did this awesome babyface promo in Spring 97 about he and Hall haven't to pick the business up in the WWF after old guys like Flair and Piper had put the business in the toilet in the early 90s. It was great, but he was a heel, so it was messed up.

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  54. Seth Rollins is cool because he's a cool guy but he is the prototypical chickenshit heel. And he's great at it.

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  55. "Cool Heels" are tricky- SO tricky. They're awesome because they're cool, funny, snarky and usually portrayed by great talkers and/or workers. However, they have a tendency towards making the babyfaces look like ineffectual, stick-in-the-mud boy-scout idiots. They laugh at their opponents (the infamous DC/nWo "Pretend Scared Face"), making the opponents look even MORE stupid if they don't get any big wins.

    It's effectively a great marketing thing, and makes the guy SUPER-over... but it crushes any opponent he faces, because they can never really make proper comebacks. The only possible way to combat a Cool Heel is to be a Steve Austin or Rock... a Cool Face.

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  56. Oh they took over alright. Their antics chased Jericho, Benoit, and Guererro into the waiting arms of the WWF, killed arguably the hottest character in pro wrestling history in Goldberg, and went from making $$$ hand over fist to putting WCW $60 million in the hole in a span of 18-20 months. Mission accomplished, no doubt.

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  57. It was an attempt at realistic storytelling. They weren't heels for the sake of being heels they had a different viewpoint and their feud with WCW was supposed to be real beyond the babyfaces and heels of rasslin.

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  58. AverageJoeEverymanApril 22, 2015 at 7:27 AM

    but then nobody would be watching

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  59. I love Kevin Owens and I'd say he's guilty of a lot of the things people comparing about the nWo doing as cool heels.

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  60. That's what I love about this place - Dissecting shit that happened nearly 20 years ago.
    The NWO's beginning was awesome. Even goofy missteps like Bischoff joining so soon were easily covered because we were still in awe on what was going on.
    I'll say it for the millionith time - to have a great feud, both sides have to be on somewhat even ground. In 1997, the WCW guys were not. From Sting's 'victory' at Starcade, Kevin Nash imitating Arn Anderson. Curt Hennig slamming the cage door on Ric Flair's head. The one week title reign of Lex Luger. After a while, you're going to stop believing in the storyline because you're conditioned to believe that the entire WCW roster does not have a snowball's chance in hell to beat a select 8-12 guys.
    Meanwhile in 1997 WWF, the product was more exciting as you had a half dozen guys going after each other every week, face or heel alignment not appliable, and it was exciting TV. Steve Austin running amok. Shawn Michaels and the Hart Foundation battles. They all kicked and shown ass.
    Anyways - outside of 'play' being an adjective - Nash's debut appearance was as good as you can get it.

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  61. Bischoff joining early made sense. They obviously had to have an inside man to perpetrate what they were getting away with. And short of Ted Turner it had to be someone with a lot of power. Only Bischoff or maybe Dusty (who joined later at a time where it didn't make sense) would have worked.

    I thought Giant joining then leaving then rejoining was more illogical.

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  62. HHH is great at doing that sell. He did an amazing job of acting like Sting was this ghost with a baseball bat that was going to murder him. Then at Wrestlemania he and his buddies treated him like a comedy jobber.

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  63. Hall's drug and alcohol problem spiked through the roof when he made real money and got a light schedule. He never had the wrestling chops in WCW to back up his charisma or how good he was at playing an amplified version of himself.

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  64. I wouldn't have minded if Luger kept the title after the summer and the stip of Sting vs. Hogan is that either the nWo disbands and goes away forever if Sting wins and Sting retires if he loses or something like that.

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  65. They were still there to kick everybody's ass, but it didn't always go that way.

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  66. Kevin Owens is different from the cool heels though. He doesn't seem like some dude you'd want to drink some beers and smoke a joint with. He seems like a dude who just wants to win and make money for his family and maybe likes hurting people along the way. He is the perfect embodiment of Mick Foley's "A heel must believe what he is doing is right" idea. He's his own thing.

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  67. I remember seeing that on YouTube a few years ago and wondering how the fuck Nash was supposed to be the heel in that scenario. And the crowd was 100% behind him, too.

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  68. The same deal as Edge, pretty much. Cool character but portrayed as completely unlikeable.

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