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Vince and the Hall of Fame

Hello!

Have been going back and watching all of the old HOF ceremonies on the Network. Once thing I noticed is that during the early modern ceremonies ('04 on), almost every inductee takes the time to thank Vince and the McMahon family.

Then, after the first year or two, no one even mentions Vince, let alone thanks him in their speeches. It's actually somewhat distracting after a while. We've heard guys like Shawn Michaels reference this in their HOF appearances, but what gives? Why does Vince get the Vol
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emort treatment at his own HOF?

​Probably just a weird Vince-ism, and the same reasoning as why he doesn't want to be inducted into his own Hall of Fame.  ​

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  1. You know what doesn't get enough love? Hall's sleeveless Canadian tuxedo when he showed up on Nitro. Let's be honest- you have to be one bad ass dude to rock that look.

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  2. Bringing Hall and Nash in using their real names was the smartest thing Eric could have done.

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  3. all he needed was a black fanny pack

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  4. yeah always thought Bischoff's plan from the get go was to do an invasion angle similar to the New Japan angle that he saw.

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  5. ROCK-em SOCK-em Robot!!!!April 21, 2015 at 9:53 AM

    The Ryback is both the hero we need and deserve.

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  6. It's WWE. This is the same organization who blew off Wyatt/Ambrose with an exploding TV. :-/

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  7. Best_in_the_WorldApril 21, 2015 at 9:54 AM

    FYI to anyone in Texas - Blue bell ice cream recall!

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/blue-bell-creameries-recalls-all-products-1429584100

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  8. Early NWO stuff had a lot of great moments of realism. I always loved the episode where Bobby asked Bischoff if he could guarantee his safety at ringside and walked out on the show when Bischoff reluctantly said, "No."

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  9. Rollins almost shouldn't have a finisher. He's too slimey to need one.

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  10. Michael Cole "Here it comes, Rollins is lining up the Authority Interference! There it is! Match Over! Rollins Retains!"

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  11. The show that ended with Hall & Nash wielding baseball bats and the cops with their hands on their guns was awesome.

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  12. Well, he did for Sting/Hogan.

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  13. Austin interviewing Undertaker is the ultimate get.

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  14. Fuck the spurs. And I haven't been here before so ima act a fool!

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  15. ThebrazilianpsychoApril 21, 2015 at 10:03 AM

    Just do the classic DDT.

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  16. I can imagine Vince running on camera when things start to get real... "RING THE FUCKING BELL!"

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  17. Add in the Pillman angle, and boy, they loved going for guns on wrestling shows in 1996.

    "Think about this: What is the most exciting thing that can happen on TV or in movies, or in real life? Somebody has a gun. That''s why I always start with a gun, because you can't top it. You just can''t." - Michael Scott, in improv class

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  18. Darth Dr. Facts VaderApril 21, 2015 at 10:04 AM

    Nooooooooooo

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  19. Virgil's Gimmick TableApril 21, 2015 at 10:06 AM

    Jesus, it's gonna be like two robots talking.

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  20. http://www.danimalcrossing.com/?p=1029

    Just go tex Mex apparently

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  21. How I would have booked Starrcade '97:
    World title: Hogan vs. Sting
    Bret Hart vs. Randy Savage
    Giant vs. Scott Hall (sub for Kevin Nash)
    Cruiserweight title: Eddie vs. Malenko vs. Rey
    U.S. title: DDP vs. Chris Benoit
    Grudge match: Ric Flair vs. Curt Hennig
    Tag Team title: Steiners vs. Meng/Barbarian
    TV title: Booker T vs. Disco Inferno

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  22. Gotta cool Bray down.

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  23. Party on, TatR!

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  24. Gotta keep him strong so you can see him in person to realize how big he is.

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  25. I don't dislike Reigns (at least not per se), I just disliked how the WWE usually booked him the last months (and I would assume I am not the only one).

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  26. They have an abundance of Z-Packs that are going to expire now that Punk is gone. They don't want to waste them.

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  27. They actually used that phrase on Impact to describe the tag titles

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  28. Did anyone comment last week and Big Show completely messing up Reigns' catchphrase? He said "Respect that!"

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  29. Atlanta Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer wins NBA Coach of the Year.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12733278/mike-budenholzer-atlanta-hawks-named-nba-coach-year

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  30. Worst_in_the_WorldApril 21, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    Not close but good try!

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  31. Otherwise known as the NBA Coach of the Year That's Not Greg Popovich Because Him Wiinning Every Year Would Be Boring and This Title Doesn't Really Roll Off the Tongue

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  32. Worst_in_the_WorldApril 21, 2015 at 10:11 AM

    U mad bro?

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  33. yes, because it's either "3 minute match on Raw" or "main even of WrestleMania"....

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  34. Virgil's Gimmick TableApril 21, 2015 at 10:12 AM

    "And that's the last thing I'm gonna say, cause that's what Stone Cold thinks!"

    "Do you taste what The Rock is making?"

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  35. "What are your plans when Hulkamania causes a ruckus in your general area?!"

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  36. It's not any different than MVP.


    What is actually bothersome is all of these awards have different voting committees. MVP is media only I think, Coach is only coaches, All-NBA is media and players.

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  37. "Hey hey hey, you're aware of it"

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  38. "You can C me."

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  39. AverageJoeEverymanApril 21, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    Bray can make fun of him for only being able to read 1 or 2 books a month.

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  40. Virgil's Gimmick TableApril 21, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    "Macho Mania! As a aaaaaaffirmative, yeah!"

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  41. Well deserved. Coach Bud has been a huge get for us.

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  42. They should rename it to the "I Thought Your Team Would Suck This Year, But Great Job!" Award.

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  43. Worst_in_the_WorldApril 21, 2015 at 10:14 AM

    You keep operating under the premise though that they need to have new giants. If Show and Kane suck and the crowd doesn't want to see them anymore, then it doesn't help the product at all to still keep them around "cause giants."

    Sheamus or Harper or whoever can be the insurmountable obstacle for babyfaces if they're just built up to be perceived as such.

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  44. If you don't like me....I would kindly ask you to chew on what I have to offer

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  45. THE HALL OF FAME IS FOR YESTERDAY'S NEWS, PAL! JUST LIKE WRESTLEMANIA, I'LL NEVER ADMIT TO BEING OVER 30!

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  46. AverageJoeEverymanApril 21, 2015 at 10:17 AM

    seeing Austin use the stun gun in the WWF was actually what made it click in my head that this was indeed the same guy as Stunning Steve Austin. Then I felt really dumb.

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  47. Unless Phil Jackson is working

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  48. Whatever. He has big hands in case you weren't aware

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  49. WWE.com Daniel Bryan Update

    "In the match description for Daniel Bryan vs Bad News Barrett on WWE.com, it says that Bryan is “undergoing diagnostic testing to see if he can defend his title at Extreme Rules." Bryan was pulled from the European tour and last night’s RAW as a precautionary measure."



    You know... DB is just doing what the majority of the fans do... take time off after WM, and return around the Royal Rumble. Smart dude.

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  50. He wasn't. Meltzer made it clear that it was a ploy to get more money on his next contract. And it worked.

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  51. To be the man....you'll need a win over me.

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  52. Mike and Lou taking home some hardware. Hard to say any coach did a better job including Kerr.

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  53. I don't recall Phil Jackson winning that many. I think he has maybe 2.


    Pop has 3 I think.

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  54. Yeah. If there one thing Hayes needs it's a boost to his confidence as to his impact in wrestling

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  55. I always liked how Hall, during the Razor Ramon days, would incorporate a few high school-level Spanish words and phrases into his promos to sell his "Cuban" heritage. Watching that disappear as he morphed into Scott Hall was quite sad for me.

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  56. Bray Wyatt, you should never call on people who are expired...as a result, you will BE AT LEISURE IN TRANQUIL SERENITY!

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  57. I'm thinking that Triple H will end up wrestling Rollins sometime this year.

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  58. Gotta keep Triple H strong for Sting.

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  59. I was just responding to bobby's wild claim that popovich is always the best coach in the league. I agree if Phil isn't working.

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  60. "I am the greatest in the present, greatest in the past and the greatest in the future too!"

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  61. And movie star Dwayne Johnson and MMA fighter Ronda Rousey.

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  62. Those organisms that bear resemblance to humans whose hosiery is an unfashionable white and labor in the industrial sector for low pay and little chance for advancement will be displeased.


    Actually, I could hear Nick saying this.

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  63. ROCK-em SOCK-em Robot!!!!April 21, 2015 at 10:23 AM

    I don't know about that. As easy and fun as it is to "You have to see Big Show in person" he is dramatically bigger.

    The problem with using Sheamus or Harper is you have them plus Barrett, Rowan, Ryback and probably three other guys I'm forgetting that are all that size.

    It's hard to create that kind of feeling on a guy when there are six other guys all the same size.

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  64. JOBBER

    The other day, Scott posted a thread about Hogan vs. jobbers in general, using the word "jobber," and at the bottom of the page I got an ad for storemade guac.

    SKYNET BEGINS

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  65. WEEEEELLLLL...WELL IT'S THE LARGE ENTERTAINMENT

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  66. "Which person follows in line?"

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  67. I actually think Phil is still a touch ahead in greatest coach. X's and O's are important, but massaging egos might be more important. Phil had to do it with the Bulls, and with the Lakers, twice.


    It feels like a 1 and 1A type question though.

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  68. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!April 21, 2015 at 10:26 AM

    This question has nothing to do with Austin, Bryan, Reigns, or Punk!


    I call shenanigans!

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  69. It was already pulled from local grocery freezers weeks ago but this still sucks.

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  70. Because they want it to be seen as a wrestling or sports entertainment hall of fame or whatever instead of just a WWE one I guess.

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  71. There's only one way to settle this, HUSTLA! We need to organize a MULTIPLE MAN TAG-BASED WRESTLING BOUT! YELL YELL YELL!!!

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  72. The Novel global environment Collection is just OVERLY... SACCHARINE!

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  73. @TimeandtheRani



    In regards to the American Psycho book, I made the assumption the stuff that happened was in his head because he started seeing shit like Bigfoot and a giant Cheerio being interviewed on television, not to mention the chapter that goes into third person when he gets into the shootout with police that doesn't get mentioned on the news the next day.

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  74. Yuck to fake guac. Avocados are readily available even here in the Midbest. Lazy, lazy cooking.

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  75. also we can't bury the Andre Battle Royal winner..that would just be stupid.

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  76. Just starting up Rock N Wrestling. With only 1 episode up, are they going for a weekly upload?

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  77. That last Lakers team put him over the top for me. Not exactly star studded but he squeezed out as much as he could from Odom and bynum and gasol.

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  78. I interpreted the movie as Patrick is rich and powerful... and that can cover up just about anything.

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  79. Hey now, they don't wanna get your heart racing with too much content at once.

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  80. One episode a year upload.

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  81. There is no way to really tell. They could add them all tomorrow or forget about the whole thing for years.

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  82. ThebrazilianpsychoApril 21, 2015 at 10:31 AM

    Christian Bale was really looking good on that flick, NO HOMO.

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  83. Well, his secretary finds the book that has all the gory shit drawn in it. Not to mention right after he kills the hooker with the chainsaw, the very next scene shows him drawing the death scene on the tablecloth while Evelyn is talking to him.

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  84. I had to look-up what a "Canadian Tuxedo" was.


    I was half expecting some incredibly nasty, incredibly wonderful new fetish.

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  85. Could Neville be any more dead in the water at this point? Man he should be pissed he got such a raw deal.

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  86. I also think being able to handle Jordan, Shaq, and Kobe is a major skill. And even Phil could not maintain Shaq and Kobe, although Shaq and Kobe were together for 8 years already before Shaq got traded to Miami.

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  87. Watched "42" last night, really good movie but it amuses me that a movie like "Once" can get slapped with an "R" for three uses of "fuck" but "42" gets a PG-13 despite more n-bombs than the entire run of Chappelle's Show

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  88. ThebrazilianpsychoApril 21, 2015 at 10:33 AM

    I was watching Blazing Saddles, no way that movie is made today.

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  89. Worst_in_the_WorldApril 21, 2015 at 10:34 AM

    Sure, but if the fans don't want to see Big Show or Kane (or imaginary "replacement giant" that is being forced in there for the sake of having a giant) and don't buy them as big threats or stars, then who gives a fuck how tall they actually are?

    Over is over is over. Big SHow being 100 feet tall doesn't matter because fans don't want to see him and don't react to him. So again, his giantness becomes worthless. if they pop for Sheamus (or Wade or Harper or whoever) and but them as crazy threats based on booking, then your babyfaces would still get way more out of beating those guys than the unover giants.

    And I'd say that you're wayyyy overestimating the importance of giants across WWF history. Yes, Andre of course. But did Hogan really set the world on fire feuding with Bundy or various other giant fat guys, in comparison to the business he did with Piper, Ordndorff, Savage etc?

    And what "giants" were money stars in the Attitude Era? Big Show meant less than shit during the AUstin & Rock babyface runs, and it's not like either had a huge money program with Kane either.

    And Diesel was a huge fucking flop.

    So again, you don't "need" to fill the role of giant if the talent just isn't there.

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  90. Right? I mean, what a clear cut springboard to stardom beating 29 other people at Wrestlemania and looking really impressive at the end. Only an idiot would have the winner do a bunch of PPV jobs to everybody and their brother immediately after, amiright?

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  91. Yeah those 3 guys could have been known as real coach killers if it wasn't for Phil.

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  92. The guy who hired me is the sole human being behind the sole human being who was not the twenty-second person to be vanquished in a physical manner.

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  93. An Austin podcast of The Miz going from him main eventing Wrestlemania to now with some honest to goodness "What happened?" questions is money. That would have my $9.99 for sure.

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  94. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!April 21, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    "This is for all of you morbidly obese urban perspiring even-toed ungulates, bring the volume of your voices to a minimum, whilst I remove my garments to show your female companions what a factual human male should be viewed as."

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  95. God, I'd forgotten how bad the voice acting on Rock N Wrestling was .

    Roddy piper particularly sounds terrible.

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  96. Work hard. In War.

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  97. Bryan facing Barrett on PPV reminds me of the Rock facing Billy Gunn on PPV.

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  98. Except that one actually happened.

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  99. Oh his arrogance knows no boundaries; but from what I've seen his contributions just as an old school wrestling guy do make the product a more well oiled machine. He's one of those guys you hate to give any credit to.

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  100. I guess I'll sub to the WWE Network today so that I can get Extreme Rules and Payback for $9.99.

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  101. ThebrazilianpsychoApril 21, 2015 at 10:42 AM

    It's Billy.

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  102. "We're going to have a meeting with HR at the end of the day, where we will make the decision to terminate your employment!"

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  103. i did that with Rumble and Fastlane. Isn't it free this month?

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  104. Without the legendary burial promo. "Tears rolled down your cheek, piss rolled down your leg..."

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  105. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS!

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  106. For some reason, that one word is so much funnier to me than the "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS!" part.

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  107. Yeah, free for new subscribers. I've already subscribed a couple of times before though so I can't get it free.

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  108. Yeah, I really love that.

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  109. Didn't Verne - who has some memory left in 2007 - basically say the HOF was a ego stroke.

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  110. So lets assume that Bryan is injured and can't make Extreme Rules, I can't be the only one hoping he gets stripped of the title leading to Raw running a one night IC Title tournament.

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  111. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonApril 21, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    Yes.

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  112. Be careful what you wish for...we might get Kane and Big show getting double byes to the semifinals.

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  113. Now, are you able to properly accept that fact, you easily-deceived pushover???

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  114. I'd rather see Barrett running his mouth at the PPV and Neville or Balor coming out to wrestle him for the vacant title.

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  115. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonApril 21, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    That is a brilliant movie and funny as hell. It still holds up well today.

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  116. I've got a bunch of email addresses, cards and paypal accounts. I can cheese it.

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  117. The whole nWo thing probably jumped the shark by October and really in November when it became Bishoff's "baby." Once WCW power was backing the nWo it went from invasion to stable and the thing died a horrible death that lasted almost three years.

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  118. I wonder if Vince is going to try to slide by without paying royalties to the Rock n Wrestling voice actors. Come on, big dumb guy from Everyone Loves Raymond - lawyer up!

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  119. That title could not possibly have had more abeyance at this point.

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  120. The month of April is FREE! Now come watch the shitty wrestling cartoon show we did a while back!

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  121. Of course mentioning "Billy Gunn Talks to God" sent me down the rabbit hole of Billy Gunn burial promos and straight to Edge discussing Billy's "super special assignment to go eat a meatball sandwich" at WWF New York.

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  122. So Reigns next feud after Big Show is supposedly with Kane.


    Christ.

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  123. ThebrazilianpsychoApril 21, 2015 at 10:49 AM

    Dat Robin Hilton.

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  124. Hey as soon as I saw it was up I threw it on.

    To be fair I'll do the same with new Total Divas as well.
    I despise me.

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  125. Without the territories, this is the only way for a guy to pay his dues.

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  126. ThebrazilianpsychoApril 21, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    NO, I said the sheriff is a N...

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  127. It's been a really long time since I read the book, but I remember interpreting the book as he was definitely committing all those murders. Though I was just talking about this exact thing with my friend who I'd originally borrowed the book from years ago- and who's the only other person I know who calls American Psycho his favorite movie- and he said the same thing, that it was in his head.
    So I probably need to read it again.

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  128. And after that, Vince is going to hire back The Warlord.

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  129. ThebrazilianpsychoApril 21, 2015 at 10:50 AM

    Bob, Big Show, Chyna...

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  130. AverageJoeEverymanApril 21, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    "Not for nothin' Huntah, but that was quite a tomatah you got hooked up wit!"

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  131. Belee_Matt!_INDEED!!!April 21, 2015 at 10:51 AM

    LARGE FATHER HYDRAULIC is your GRAPPLING RISER.....YELL LOUDLY if you can listen to me."

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  132. It's like the Boss Man when he had to go through the Heenan Family to get to Perfect.

    Only it sucks.

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  133. The pop when Roman is in the full nelson.

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  134. AverageJoeEverymanApril 21, 2015 at 10:52 AM

    Or British General's Erections.

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  135. (I get that this is part of the gimmick of this thread, but this would be great for the Vaudevillains currently. :) )

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  136. They saving up the Reigns/Rollins match for some future point, when Reigns is actually over.

    Perhaps Survivor Series


    2017

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  137. Most of what happened from 1996-1999 was what I expected from the nWo angle - but they dragged a good solid year storyline into almost three years - maybe four if you count Russo's nWo silver.

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  138. ThebrazilianpsychoApril 21, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    Bossman had a better cardio and could work, that HOSS was on the roll in his Heenan feud.

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  139. Hey dude! I know he was on a lot of drugs which might explain that. I can only cede to the author who we saw at a talk a few years ago, and I nearly jumped out of my chair and cheered when he backed up my interpretation in criticising the screenplay. I don't know, I guess it's open to intrepretation, but certain scenes in the movie don't make sense. Like when he goes to see Paul's apartment and the body's been cleaned up (or not obviously) and the woman gives him this death stare that she knows he's trouble. In the book it's because she knows he was responsible for the body they cleaned up and covered up to resell the apartment without a fuss, in the movie it's just... weird.

    There's the big reveal at the end of the movie where Bateman is told that Paul couldn't possibly be dead because the guy he's confessing to just had dinner with him the other night, but that just ties into everyone confusing everyone with everyone else. It wasn't Paul he had dinner with, just like Bateman's alibi for the night of his murder (that someone had seen him at some party) was also incorrect. Bateman tries to confess and society is so fucked that he still gets away with it. His confession has meant nothing. :/

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  140. AverageJoeEverymanApril 21, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    Dont want those southern yokels getting their hands on his somas and pain killers.

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  141. If it wasn't for the legal issues, I still think they could have done a pseudo-WWF promotion like they were doing. To think if it wasn't WCW - you could of had a nWo with Hall, Nash, A heel Hogan, a heel Luger, a heel Jarrett, Diabise and Virgil/Vincent, and Syxx with hints of Bulldog and Bret in 1996 - it would be unstopable. But instead it became Hogan's stable and then Nash and Hall started to phone it all in.

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  142. If there's anything Vince McMahon is known for, it's his humility.

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  143. He always did, they were just needlessly complicated and often fell apart before they could reach their end point. For a more recent example look at the formation of IMMORTAL in TNA. That was some awful, dumb long-term planning, but it was still something that stretched beyond a month.

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  144. I thought the story with Savage joining was that the nWo was using Liz as a bargaining chip to neutralize one of their biggest enemies? In that sense, it made sense and was kind of cool.

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  145. Yup. And Giant joining made sense to me too -- he was a young, impressionable guy who was lured by the promises of fame and fortune from Bischoff (secretly) and the too-cool-for-school nWo (openly). Plus, if you can't beat 'em...

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  146. Feud with Ahmed over the summer, and maybe taking the I-C Title at the IYH before Summerslam so he can lose to Ahmed by count or DQ to Ahmed at Summerslam which lets Ahmed "win" the feud and move onto the main event while Hunter still holds onto the belt and runs with it through the fall until Mero unseats him.

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  147. Honestly, I've ben doing a chronological watch of WWF and WCW on the network, and outside the Steamboat matches, I have yet to encounter what I'd call a good Jake match (I'm in the middle of 87).

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  148. To each his own. I, for one, don't understand why so many wrestling fans view chinlocks as the devil. It's an effective way of building drama.

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  149. I still have some of the Warrior comics. They are about as bad as you think they are.

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  150. I think his Mid-South stuff is marginally better but only because Watts would've assaulted him or something if he was outright dog shit.

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  151. A friend of my parents gave me a copy of the Warrior comic as a present one year. It was the Santa rape special edition. I think I was like 10 or 11 at that point. My mind still can't fully process what was going on in that issue.

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  152. Are you crazy? It made a TON of money through 97 (and 98) but it should have ended after sting defeated hogan at starcade 97. That chase through the year made the promotion the hottest company in a decade

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  153. Well they turned The Rock in 97 when Rocky Maivia just sucked. Then he was nearly face during the Summer of 98 after Summer Slam and then they turned him heel again at the Survivor Series. Then he was face in 99 until 2002 and in 2003 he was heel again. Ok, after this, they kept him face, but when he only appears only once in a while, it istn't a big problem, but when you have to see someone every week and on every ppv you have to change IMO rather sooner than later.

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  154. MLB Network just threw it to their Angeks correspondent "in Los Angeles"

    THEYRE FROM ANAHEIM, YOU IDIOT

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  155. Damn u left out raven and saturn.

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  156. And his grapefruits. His humble grapefruits.

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  157. im thinking he is speaking more creat7vely,

    Once they had the open tryout with wallstreet/bbossman and norton... it was only a matter of time.

    It made money though. Tons.

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  158. But how can you blame a concept like a tournament, when you book someone like Mabel against Savio Vega in the final match? I mean, I could have said that before, that King Mabel will be the biggest flop of them all. It wasn't the fault of the KOTR concept, that they booked Mabel as the winner. They could have chosen someone else.

    And if Austin for example wouldn't have been KOTR winner, he could have had the same feud with Bret Hart and the Hart Foundation and later DX. It wouldn't have changed anything.

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  159. Oh how I love the '04 Hall of Fame ceremony. The last time it had an exclusive, banquet dinner feel before they started over marketing it, inviting in the paying idiots, and inducting people who have nothing to do with wrestling. '05 to '08 were decent and then they were just a wreck after that.

    There hasn't been anything as exciting as Sherri's speech in a long time on those.

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  160. That's closer than Auburn Hills where the Pistons play is to Detroit and I almost never hear it being referenced by the proper city name. WWE comes to Rosemont and calls it Chicago. Pretty common to see that in sports broadcasting.

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  161. Cool. Let me figure out my schedule for the next couple of weeks and I'll let you know. (We're interviewing interns right now, and it's really messing up my schedule).

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  162. Vince's love for big men = make Nelson Frazier a star. Unfortunately it didn't work in Philadelphia in 1995. Think about that for a second. The Philly crowd may have wanted a new star instead of UT or HBK, but they didn't want Mabel. Vince took it as a hint not to put too much emphasis on the KOTR winner. Rather he took it as a vehicle to build hope for the future which was something his competition wasn't performing well. For example WCW tried to push Alex Wright and the Renegade in 1995 to similar success as the WWF with Mabel.

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  163. I thought they were from California and Danny Glover was their coach?

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  164. Wrestling fashion is the best thing in the world.


    Ziggler should transition his wardrobe over to a Zubaz and Fanny Pack combo.

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  165. Pete Rose got inducted in 04.

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  166. Our raw review : http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2015/04/21/wwe-monday-night-raw-april-20-review/

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  167. Between #GiveDivasAChance and the heel-turning of almost every main-roster Diva, I wonder if they're setting up some kind of NXT women's "Invasion" angle, with Charlotte and crew coming in as babyfaces.


    If that's not the plan, I have no idea what is going on. Brie was wrestling like a face last night, but the announcers were still treating Nikki like a heel on commentary. Summer's "face turn" was only for a week. Natalya wrestles as a face but valets as a heel. I don't get it.

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  168. As an AWA Scott Hall fan, I always hated the Razor Ramon gimmick.

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  169. Probably he doesn't want the night to be about him, he wants it to be about the inductees.

    Everyone would thank him, quite likely, and there's really no need.

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  170. He at least made several Wrestlemania appearances instead of appearing on one Smackdown

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  171. Looks like we're moving toward a WWE Universe in which every wrestler gets to (has to?) wear some kind of jacket or cape for their entrance. After last night it's now Lucha Dragons, New Day, Ambrose, Harper, Ziggler, Barrett, Bryan, Stardust, Adam Rose, Wyatt, Jericho, The Ascension, Sandow, Los Matadores, Miz, Neville and R-Truth.

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  172. Nothing WWE does any more has any consistency. At this point, I'm just writing what I see. :(

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  173. Why don't you just ask X-Man for his phone # already?

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  174. Having him debut as part of the DoD, with horrifically bad entrance music, teaming with Kamala in a handicap loss to Hogan would have been so much more WCW-ish then what we actually got.

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  175. I think part of having the B-Team was a merch thing.


    "Look at these schlubs who can wear the t-shirt and be part of the gang, you can too!"


    Or maybe I'm giving them too much credit...

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  176. Raven was injured

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  177. Rosemont is basically in Chicago, for all intents and purposes.

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  178. God I love that film.

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  179. 40 minutes just like Anaheim to LA

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  180. I wonder when they will induct Joe Gomez...

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  181. Is Anaheim that close to actual LA? Well, I guess I do need to call my ex-girlfriend and tell her she's dumb for always whining about my stupid "Anaheim is in LA" joke."

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  182. I think you're being harsh again

    This was a really good show, at least a ****. Only the women’s segment was actively bad, and virtually everything else involving a program happening on the PPV was good or great. Kane was awesome (I know!), Sheamus was deliciously evil until Ziggler put him in his place, and Cena continues to rock this open challenge gimmick, to the point where I kinda want him to win on Sunday.

    Also, check out Dolph’s hot as hell promo on the app. Almost sells you on the Kiss Me Arse match.

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  183. Back on RSPW, there was NEWZ that Nash would be renamed "Stone Cold," and that's why they changed the Ringmaster's name so fast.

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  184. I don't think that Mabel would have worked in another city, because it was a big fat guy wearing a silly name and a violet tent. And I don't think that Renegade and Alex Wright were main event material either - at least not in 95.


    If Mabel would have won the Royal Rumble 95 and headlined WMXI, would you have blamed the Royal Rumble concept?

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  185. From the Hall debut to Fall Brawl '96 was some of the best stuff WCW ever did

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  186. It's one of the big gripes I have about Southern California being so overserved when it comes to Wrestlemanias and Summerslam. If you count 12 and 16 there have been entirely too many WM and Summerslam events in LA.

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  187. He was never a great worker but his 96 run was spectacularly awful.

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  188. I agree with you that I much preferred the Hall of Fame when it wasn't in a stadium. I remember when WWE used to explicitly request that fans not wear t-shirts and chant inappropriately. The feel is significantly different now, and not really for the better. I personally prefer everybody sitting up on the stage -- do we need to see the TV HD set?

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