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Daniel Bryan Update

The following was reported by PWInsider:

"WWE officials were hoping to get Daniel Bryan back in the ring this month and have him defend the Intercontinental Title against King Barrett this Sunday at the Payback pay-per-view but as noted, they got MRI results back on May 8th and it was determined that Bryan would not be able to return any time soon, if ever again.

The situation has brought a lot of frustration within WWE. WWE officials want what's best for Bryan but they obviously want him working for the company and want him on TV as they have a DVD and other products coming out that need to be promoted. There has been some talk that Bryan is now so injury-prone that maybe they could best use him in a non-wrestling position.

Since Monday's RAW where he dropped the Intercontinental Title, the talk has been that Bryan is trying to figure out a way to get cleared. There's been no word yet if Bryan will be getting the surgery that he was so reluctant to get before but people are wondering if that's an option. Needless to say, a lot of people in the company really feel bad for Bryan right now."

http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/0513/594242/backstage-reaction-to-daniel-bryan-wwe-status/

Comments

  1. So Bryan will either get better and return, or he won't and he'll retire. That sounds like Meltzer.

    Though is Bryan really "injury prone" or has he just not properly healed from his original injuries from a year ago?

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  2. Thaddeus MountainMay 13, 2015 at 1:55 PM

    He would be the perfect head trainer in NXT.

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  3. Man, not since HBK have I see someone going to such lengths repeatedly to avoid having to lose a title in the ring!

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  4. Missy Hyatt would do better as NXT head trainer. Allegedly.

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  5. If he's healthy enough to talk to the ring he's healthy enough to take a Bull Hammer!

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  6. Has Bryan ever trained anyone before?

    Being skilled at something and being skilled at teaching that thing are completely different concepts.

    Also, I doubt he wants to move to Florida.

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  7. Or have a four-way match in which he mostly just lies at ringside to give him an 'out'.

    Or anything really other than what they did.

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  8. I don't think Brian wants to move all the way across the company and again he's never trained anyone before just because he's skilled at something doesn't mean he's good at it.

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  9. Brie is the equivalent of the scissors used to cut Samsons hair. This is completely her fault

    She never told anyone

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  10. Put him in a Commissioner Foley type role.

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  11. Was ROH head trainer before Delirious.

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  12. I'm just glad that this happened while he was working for the E and not one of the shitty indies. At least he made some good money and should have access to better doctors. Imagine if this had happened after he got fired for the nexus deal?

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  13. If going home to Bedroom Brie Mode every night is the reward, shave my head right now. I'd eat honey out of that lion skull any day.

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  14. Losing Your Smile 101 is the first class they taught at HBK's wrestling school. Bryan learned from the best.

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  15. I can only hope Bryan doesn't have a severe injury and instead just needs to get clean of all drugs and sort his life out whilst using a career ending injury as an excuse, like HBK.

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  16. Stop being a mark for the business. If your body is telling you no, then probably risking it all for a 'pro wrestling' company that is so far removed from what you loved about the business to begin with, is pretty dumb.

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  17. He'd be slumming it out in TNA or RoH

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  18. It's hard to imagine Bryan getting over as anything other than an in-ring performer. Austin, JBL, Foley and Regal were all far better on the mike.

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  19. With no means of support.

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  20. I don't know man, he was pretty annoying as RAW General Manager that time

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  21. Holy cow, upvote for the lion skull reference. That is super impressive.

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  22. Judging from his "natural therapy" discussion I read from the Total Divas recaps, I'm gonna guess the latter.

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  23. I agree with you. He'd have to push himself in either those organizations or on the Indies. He'd be destroying himself even further.

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  24. It's interesting to look back and remember the absolute furor that was going on because Brock and Bryan were the "obvious story" from WM and why couldn't they just see that, etc. etc. With his physical condition it's likely they at least were trying to guard from that happening again. Can you imagine what a disaster it would've been to have him win the belt and vacate it *again* two weeks later?

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  25. ... and probably still legitimately headbutting people repeatedly.

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  26. It's tough to find your smile when your beard is bigger than your head.

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  27. R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A.May 13, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    Might just be the first injury from two years ago hit the point of no return.

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  28. I hope he does the right thing for his health, whatever that is. I'd love to see him as a trainer at NXT or a commentator.

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  29. You could still have Rollins cash in MITB for a quick ambush or something.

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  30. There's nothing alleged about that.

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  31. We'll always have WM30...

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  32. It doesn't take away from the fact that the match would have been f'ing AWESOME.

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  33. All kidding aside, Missy is a great twitter follow. She has really good comments about what works and what doesn't in wrestling, and she's obviously still a fan.

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  34. Yeah, a match with Lesnar would have been far more hazardous to his health than a seven-man match in which he was able to avoid taking any really serious bumps.

    I'll admit I was one of those people who thought it was insane that, if Bryan was healthy enough to be cleared, he should've been used in the obvious main event. But if that was their reasoning for keeping him out of it....welp, they got that one right.

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  35. btw this is why the performance center is so great. I know there are things you learn on the indies that can't be replicated but Bryan had a good ten years of unregulated wear and tear on his body before even getting to the WWE. I feel like time has just run out for him and he has squeezed everything he possibly could. Perhaps he comes back, but the stuff he's suffering from sounds more chronic than curable.

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  36. Maybe you wouldn't have to feel so bad for him if you'd let him run with the ball when it was his time (Summerslam 2013) instead of screwing him over to the point where open fan revolt was needed to force him into the spot he deserved to have.

    And if his days as a wrestler are over, there's only one proper on-camera role for him, and that's WWE Commissioner, putting the screws to the Authority.

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  37. the Brock/Bryan match should have happened at the Rumble. It would have given smark fans what they wanted and kept his away from Roman Reigns and avoided that dicotamy. Reigns and Cena should have been the final two, guess who Philly would have cheered for?

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  38. Exactly. If this injury problem was coming, and it obviously was, better now than earlier.

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  39. I think this situation really calls into question the new E policy of signing indy veterans. You only get a certain amount of bumps in your career. What is the sense in developing somebody that has already burned through most of them in high school gyms in front of 25 people? I would seriously question signing anybody past the age of 30.

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  40. The problem is we get a boring WWE style where nothing happens until 15 minutes in when guys exchange finishers and kick out and such.

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  41. There are benefits and drawbacks to be sure, but this is one of the BIG benefits. Regal has talked about that pretty extensively - they can teach guys in months what could take years to learn on the indies.

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  42. Not only did he train tons of people, he trained Sara Del Ray, who is now training the women in NXT.

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  43. Those matches in RoH just before his first WWE run were fucking brutal. Sure, they get you over and pop the crowd but they also take years off of your career

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  44. There is so much going on here that bothers me I don't even know where to start.

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  45. Might as well get Adam Cole and ACH will they are young

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  46. Regarding the report or the comments

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  47. The report.

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  48. "guess who Philly would have cheered for?"


    J-B-L? ;)

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  49. Yeah, its shitty news. The fact the whole company feels terrible for him is all you need to know.

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  50. As much as I like Bryan and enjoy watching him wrestle, I hope he just retires. He's really pushing himself past the safe point and will probably just end up doing more damage. Make him a NXT trainer and then have him manage a young wrestler. Then he can focus on knocking Brie up. Maybe if he is healthy enough, he can do one matcha year at Mania as a special attraction like Taker.

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  51. YOU DON 'T LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE, PAL! YOU LIKE WHAT I TELL YOU YOU LIKE!

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  52. Granted ... but the cream always rises to the top. The key for me is to find the balance between getting an indie guy at the right time in his career versus someone like Bryan (or Zayn or Owens even) who have put on so many miles already. Uhaa Nation could be a perfect example if he works out ... he's still only 27 and didn't start until like 2009? I think getting indie experience is crucial because you learn in front of a crown instead of just Dusty Rhodes, William Regal, and A-Train but if your ten years into the indies I don't blame the WWE for staying away.

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  53. "Trying to find a way to get cleared" is just a horrible sounding thing to do.

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  54. I said in the daily thread that he's still pretty young (33). He could easily take three years off, heal up, and see how he feels. We never thought we'd see Shawn back, but miraculously, not throwing himself at the ground 100 times per week did wonders for him.

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  55. Some people kill themselves doing what they love. He is one of those guys by the looks of things.

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  56. Bryan is not special occasion material there I said it.

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  57. The flip side of that is that wrestlers get to peak money-making form in their 30s.

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  58. But is he sponge-worthy?

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  59. I'd love to have him at my birthday party.

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  60. Yeah I agree not only do you get a certain amount of bumps but they are literally destroying themselves in front of a 100 people they take more bumps and they take harder bumps than guys in the big time.

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  61. Bryan never should've come back in January. I felt at the time it may have been too soon and in retrospect it was right. Not saying he wouldn't have injured himself again but if Reigns was your guy going forward Bryan shouldn't have come back to take away that spotlight anyways.

    They really should've just ran with him in 2013 and it's a shame it took so long to give him his run.

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  62. But I don't WANT to wear cartoonish lapels and "I work at a casino" shiny shirts!

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  63. I suppose you'd have to ask Brie

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  64. She also trained by Donovan Morgan, the APW boot camp and Japan so its not like he soley trained. Also training someone in APW is a lot different than training guys the WWE wants them trained.

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  65. Pretty sure he trained Sara Amato (Del Ray), who's not training people at NXT.

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  66. What's left if they don't sign indy guys? 100% of the roster home grown in NXT? What a sad future that would be.

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  67. I've mentioned this before, but Bryan's last appearance on Talk is Jericho, where he described in detail the entire recovery, was very concerning. He basically didn't get the surgery they thought he needed because, after two trips to a "natural remedies" doctor, he felt better.


    It just didn't sound like he paid enough attention to what the doctors were saying. This is all easy to say in hindsight, of course, but I agree it felt early for him to come back, especially based on what we know now after that interview about the severity of the injury.

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  68. Problem is, if that was their reasoning for keeping him out of the main event, he shouldn't have been wrestling at all.

    Much less winning the IC title.

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  69. I love Bryan. One of my favorite wrestlers ever. But this would be a really bad move, IMO, because he's ... average on the mic. He can rise to the occasion when need be, but on a consistent basis? I don't see it.

    Foley's one of the all-time best on the stick, so he was able to transition naturally.

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  70. That type of shit turned Kurt into a pill-head. There will always be some Doctor Nick who will find a way to interpret results to suit whoever is paying them, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

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  71. It's kinda pitch counts in baseball. If you've pitched in college it's another 3 years of unmonitored pitches where as in high school pitchers you don't have so many used pitches.

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  72. Has Albert trained anybody before being named NXT head trainer? I legit don't know.

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  73. If you signs guys younger Indy guys you're saving on bumps that can be done under WWE control.

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  74. Go find the TiJ episode I referenced above. He goes into detail about the "natural therapy," and yeah, it sounds pretty wonky.

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  75. Their current top star and the number 2 star for the last 10+ years were grown in house, Lesnar was in house, Batista might as well been in house, even Ziggler was in house wasn't he? So yeah seems like they'd do ok for themselves if they went that route.

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  76. You've haven't loved anything as much as Bryan loves wrestling, I guess. It's tougher than you think.

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  77. The match we did get was pretty awesome, in fairness.

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  78. Bryan visiting "Suplex City" just sounds like a terrible idea given his health.

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  79. I wonder if this will irritate Punk given the fact that both he and the WWE were always butting heads whereas here they seem to at least give a shit about Bryan

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  80. If he was willing to take the Steve Austin route of adjusting his style to work around his limitations (which would first require him to admit his body can't go like it used to), then maybe he could keep going.


    It doesn't seem like Bryan is that type of person, though. He's more like Kurt Angle or Benoit where it's either full speed or nothing.

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  81. Awesome wrestler, and likely one of the last seasoned indy guys to really get a shot like that. I vote for GM Bryan.

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  82. Oh I totally agree here. In some ways I wish they would've just told him "go get the surgery or don't come back". But business and all...

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  83. We really only got Punk's side of the story as disgruntled employee. Who knows what really went on. All indications are that Vince at least respected him.

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  84. As soon Austin was feeling better he started taking crazy bumps again and was once again out of wrestling. Remember the Edmonton match with Benoit?

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  85. I mean the whole thing just feels so pointless. If the plan was to have him come back and curtain jerk in a random IC title match then what's the point of taking such a risk? I could see if the plan was to have him come back and do Bryan/Lesnar while you can but to have him eliminated like a geek then just plugged into a match any other geek could've been involved in? That's what really hurts.

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  86. Punk seems like the type to work through an injury not say anything and then complain about it. He even mentioned his "what would Harley do" mantra when he was champ.

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  87. The thing is, indy vets are polished workers, too. They're an asset.

    The issue is that WWE kept on putting Bryan (and Punk) in too many hard-hitting gimmick matches against dangerous hosses. Bryan was wrestling twice on a RAW, on a Smackdown, on PPV in certain weeks and making all the house shows for months leading up to Mania. It's too much and anyone would break down from that grind.

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  88. I don't really consider OVW to be in house. It was an indy that WWE had a working relationship with.

    NXT has more in common with the Power Plant than OVW: a single mindset production set that will produce standard talent that will be unable to break the mode.

    In 10 years, WWE will more closely resemble a well-honed comedy act than sports entertainment.

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  89. Shawn Michaels was 32 going on 33 when he first retired. Bryan is 33 going on 34.

    You know, a 4 year break did wonders for Michaels...

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  90. Random note -- when did the term "geek" replace "jobber," and why?

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  91. Kurt Angle came back sooner after even bigger surgery. And years later, look at him. He's fine, he's jumping around.

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  92. I don't know, I kinda get the bet-hedging. If the doctors cleared him and he wants to wrestle, would you keep your most popular- and best- performer off the biggest card of the year?

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  93. Daniel Bryan came along at the wrong time.

    If this were the Attitude Era, he'd still be working through these injuries.

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  94. Think how long Bryan's beard can get in four years!

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  95. That won't change anytime soon. Soon all their guys will be developed fully by their system and will be even more homogeneous and replaceable than they are now. I hope it works but I think it'll just be boring

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  96. Cena has been doing that for over a decade. Because he didn't waste it taking dumb bumps in armories for xtcrpw.

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  97. That's what I gather too. On one hand, they missed some good opportunities to do SO much more but at the same time I don't think anybody else would've been given the same chances Punk was given

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  98. I'm not sure if this is why, but I know Bryan Alvarez used to use that word a lot when I was an Observer subscriber.

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  99. Well geek is what they called jobbers in the old days too but I think the difference is a geek in this sense is "just another body." They win some they lose some never really going above a certain level or stand out in anyway. A jobber is a guy that wouldn't even make the card. His role is to do nothing BUT lose.

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  100. The irony of Daniel Bryan is that he got over as this sincere, honest character that fans really empathize with, with a shaggy goat look that is the least sincere part of his career.

    All the guy really wants to do is shave everything off and tend to his farm.

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  101. Does he need to find Jesus too?


    Bless can be the new Yes.

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  102. I don't either.

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  103. I hope Brock returns with the shaggy goat beard since he can pull it off without looking like a homeless person.

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  104. It was pretty in house. Cornette has talked about it before how they would call him up and make him use this guy or use that guy or do this with that guy. They were all trained very much in the WWE way. I think people have been saying "in ten years the WWE will be this, or won't be that" has been being played since the Hulkamania era. I didn't see many people predicting the Network or that they would be posting such high grossing quarters such as this last one ten years ago. Nobody would have predicted that Punk and Bryan would be main event featured guys. So I think its easily proven that nobody has any idea what direction they will go or how successful they will be at it.

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  105. I said the same thing and that his insistence that he was all better after two treatments of dubious efficacy justified the company losing faith in his ability to stay healthy.

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  106. You're just spit balling now.

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  107. "The situation has brought a lot of frustration within WWE".

    Of course it did, cause they are fucking assholes

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  108. I don't think that was the plan. In all likelihood, Bryan being cleared caught them totally off guard, there was no reason to keep him out if he was good to go and everything else was then finding places to fit him in while the big programs leading into WM were already set.

    Honestly, did anything they did with Bryan from the Rumble onward feel like there was any planning behind it at all?

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  109. I'm just a bearded boy (bearded booooyy…)

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  110. Yep. I love the guy, but he isn't Taker, Rock, Austin or HHH.

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  111. That's not fair. If you invest heavily in a guy and then he gets hurt and can't work then it's totally natural to be frustrated over that.
    Forcing him to work would be bad, but being frustrated about the situation is totally natural.

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  112. Find Jesus? He looks like what most conservative Christians think Jesus looks like already!

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  113. Well Bryan/Sheamus was the reported plan and no of course nothing with Bryan after the Rumble was planned because they didn't expect Roman to get such a vicious reaction.

    Ultimate point being if they weren't going to have him actually win the RR to go on to Wrestlemania what's the rush?

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  114. Triple H is barely special occasion worthy.

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  115. Lesnar and Ziggler both at least had a wrestling background.

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  116. He killed his body for a decade before he arrived to their company, surely they did not expect him in 2015 to still be able to go at that pace

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  117. I imagine that they did, or at least be able to work in a regular capacity. They didn't sign him to sit at home.
    Obviously if you invest in someone, and then they don't return that investment as you'd hoped, there will be a level of frustration, even if the reason for non-performance is entirely legitimate.
    If you've got Bryan DVD's to sell, and suddenly Bryan is persona non-grata, you're not saying "ok cool, no biggie!" is all. You obviously put his health first, but nevertheless have frustration about the situation. Anyone would.

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  118. They've been trying to get him NOT to work at that pace for years, dude.

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  119. I wonder if Daniel Bryan has made more in his WWE career than a guy like R-Truth.

    Maybe he should have been one of the guys that hide backstage hoping not to get picked for a Superstars match.

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  120. If my doctors cleared, them I'd trust them enough to put him in any role. If I didn't trust my doctors' diagnosis, I wouldn't employ them.

    Obviously it's not that simple, but I do think this speaks to some kind of disconnect between the doctors, the company and the talent.

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  121. Dirt sheets have mastered the ability to say nothing in 3 paragraphs.


    "Bryan can't wrestle still, as was said on Raw. People feel bad for Brian. There's no word on if he is getting surgery."

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  122. He arrived at their company in 2002.

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  123. Brock doesn't so much grow a beard as he commands hair to appear on his face at the appropriate length.

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  124. It's just kinda weird to me, I guess, because I associate "geek" with geek culture -- comics, games, etc.

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  125. Ugh. Didnt know that. Hippie.

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  126. I agree, as he was talking about it on Talk is Jericho I thought something similar.

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  127. geek=loser=jobber
    Calling someone a geek without intending it to be a put down is only about 15 minutes old.

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  128. I hope you meant "walk" to the ring, and that wasnt a concussion joke!

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  129. Well at least he can say he has Wrestlemania 30, Punk never main evented!


    I think that pretty much wraps up anything to do with him in a major role anytime soon even if he does come back. WWE wouldn't trust him considering we now have back to back years of him giving up a title.


    I would think he would be better of retiring, but obviously his call. Life is too short to deal with something permanently.

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  130. Quote Unquote SirMay 13, 2015 at 4:44 PM

    Yeah, but Angle's a machine. Dude won an olympic gold medal with a broken freakin' neck! =)

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  131. Turns out Jesus was stuck between my couch cushions, along with the Universal Remote I've been looking for the last 3 1/2 weeks...

    Who knew?

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  132. Adam "Colorado" CurryMay 13, 2015 at 4:45 PM

    Bryan looks like he's about 15 without the beard though.

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  133. How could you possible know that?

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  134. Theses are now creeping a bit too close to the old chuck Norris jokes and that's not acceptable

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  135. Adam "Colorado" CurryMay 13, 2015 at 4:47 PM

    I don't think he had much of a problem with Vince. HHH is a whole different story though.

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  136. Eh, Austin was force to give up TWO titles in back to back MONTHS.

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  137. Adam "Colorado" CurryMay 13, 2015 at 4:48 PM

    Angle's also too wasted to know he's hurt though.

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  138. Adam "Colorado" CurryMay 13, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    I doubt it. Truth has been around since, what, 1999?

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  139. Adam "Colorado" CurryMay 13, 2015 at 4:52 PM

    Yeah, I agree. Had Bryan not come back for the Rumble, even if he came back the next night (though I would have held him out until WM), and the crowd wouldn't have shit all over it. And beating Cena clean only to have Orton cash in and then hold up the title for a couple months was just shit booking.

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  140. Theberzerker, #1 HUSS CHOMPIONMay 13, 2015 at 4:53 PM

    I don't discredit holistic medicine or anything, like Lewis Black says, everyone's health is different. But clearly, the procedure Bryan got last year was not enough, and he came back too soon from it. Looks like he'll need full on surgery, and will be out for a while longer after it, but probably not AS long since he's already had one operation already. What's going to draw it out is Bryan himself doesn't want surgery and believes wholeheartedly in alternative treatments, so he's going to keep trying until there's no other choice left. I don't think his career is over, it's just going to continue to stall for a while until he relents and gets the full procedure that he needs.

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  141. Not all in WWE.

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  142. Does that matter? YOLO.

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  143. Two operations are not necessarily better than one. And surgery itself is not a panacea...there are plenty of risks involved in any surgery, including death.

    Bryan is not necessarily wrong just because he is avoiding surgery.

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  144. Theberzerker, #1 HUSS CHOMPIONMay 13, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    I get that, and I'm not saying he's wrong, just that it's all coming down to the decisions he made, that's all. Greater point is I don't think his career is over...like others have said, taking a year or more off does wonders sometimes.

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  145. Punk was interested in making money outside of WWE. Some of his grumblings had to do with being forced to work a house show, when he had already gotten himself a gig signing autographs at Wizard World (which would have netted him more).


    Point being: apples and oranges

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  146. tribute to Blassie?

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  147. His early stuff was mostly developmental (which WWE dumped, releasing him) and squash-like (extended sometimes, but he was the rough equivalent to an NWA jobber.)


    Not until his "second run" with WWE in 2009 (FCW) and 2010 (NXT) would I agree that he'd "arrived"

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  148. cabspaintedyellowMay 13, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    JESUS, DANIEL. STOP IT.


    STAY HOME.


    GET BETTER.


    STOP RUSHING.

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  149. Probably a wish on the WWE's end to get Bryan to fulfill whatever dates were left on his current deal as long as he's healthy (if he got medical clearance, wants to come back and is still popular, there's no reason not to use the guy) and a wish on Bryan's end to wrestle because he loves doing it.

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  150. He would be Nigel McGuinness

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  151. They look even dumber for not having him in against Brock at Wrestlemania now. Have him get the big feel good underdog upset win and when he can't go have Seth Rollins be the little weasel who snakes in and takes it. Rollins saved us from Reigns which didn't really feel like an authentic bad guy move.

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  152. Yeah but that was from one injury

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  153. Watching the 1998 RAWs on the Network, and I'm only up to mid-April. The amount of times that they've said so-and-so has a concussion, and then they compete later, is almost terrifying.

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  154. The night after Mania if Bryans music hit and he approached Roman like "Hey I never actually lost my title. " The place would've come unglued.

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  155. Ach. Just shitty news.

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  156. They don't look even dumber, they probably weren't even sure that Bryan would make it to Mania. I badly wanted Brock/Bryan too but I get why they didn't do it. I'm at least glad Bryan had one of the best Mania moments the year before and completed his story in that sense

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  157. I don't think they were making him do anything physically that he didn't insist on doing

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  158. No, they look smarter.

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  159. "They look even dumber for not having him in against Brock at Wrestlemania now."


    Nah, I feel the opposite. Plus when Rollins beats him and then Bryan retires, there's no comeuppance.

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  160. No, they should be frustrated. It's a frustrating time.

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  161. Stone Cold Steve Austin, bro.

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  162. Has Bryan said that he wants to "shave everything off"? I was under the impression that everything -- the beard, the long hair -- was his decision. He also seems like the "man of earth" type that would have a super shaggy beard.


    And while he got MEGA over as the honest, sincere character, I would say that the thing that initially got him over was his outlandish celebrations after cheap or undeserved wins. If he had just shown up as a sincere character, it wouldn't have worked. It was a development of the heel character.

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  163. Hell, even a few years ago. Didn't Mr. Kennedy get a severe concussion so they put him in a match with Edge (which included a pre-match beat down) to get the Money in the Bank briefcase off of him?

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  164. I think that had more to do with who he was competing with. He went from fighting Undertaker and Foley in brawl-centric matches to chain wrestling with Angle, Benoit, and Jericho.

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  165. Right, except for two things:

    1. Nobody had any way to know Bryan wouldn't be able to go after WM.

    2. Once he couldn't go, he couldn't go. As in, he couldn't safely wrestle a match to job the title.

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  166. Neville is my new Daniel Bryan. Sorry American Dragon but I've moved on

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  167. I suspect so. I bet he made more at wm 30 than truth made in any year.

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  168. As much as I understand why they didn't put Bryan in the match, I still think they should have - That was pretty much the only chance we had at getting Brock/Bryan, the ultimate underdog story, the ultimate David/Goliath story,

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  169. I have till 5. What? No, I didn't say I AM 5. I, look I'll come in again.

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  170. True, but chain wrestling doesn't necessarily mean taking multiple German Suplexes per night.

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  171. Bryan in a non-wrestling face role sucks, I'd rather not see more of that.

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  172. I see what you're saying, but only signing wrestlers that haven't actually wrestled (or wrestled much) is like saying that the NFL should only sign people that didn't play in high-school or college.

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  173. Cena's also an absolute freak of nature. If you look at his age and long list of injuries (and miles on the road), he's probably MORE beat-up than your average indy guy.

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  174. Bumps are bumps, no matter whose ceiling they're under.

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  175. Not to question Mr. Regal, but I would argue that there's a difference between teaching and learning. There's no substitute for experience.

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  176. Developmental is a completely different style than most indies. I'd bet you that the guys down there would ream somebody out for pulling a triple moonsault onto concrete in front of 45 people. I know Cornette would.

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  177. He probably is more beat-up than your average indy guy. And he's gotten that beat-up in front of millions of people and earned millions of dollars. Your average indy guy has done it in front of 30 people for 50 bucks.

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  178. STOP SCREAMING.

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  179. I don't really think that a match with Lesnar would have been this big mushroom-cloud of destruction for Bryan's neck. Sure, if Brock were just suplexing him over and over, but both men are talented enough to put a great match together countless other ways.

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  180. Neidhart wasn't involved in that match.

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  181. Can't argue with that.

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  182. The Love-Matic Grampa!May 13, 2015 at 8:25 PM

    "Since Monday's RAW where he dropped the Intercontinental Title, the talk
    has been that Bryan is trying to figure out a way to get cleared."

    That sounds ominous.

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  183. If Brock Lesnar isn't repeatedly suplexing people until they're legitimately hurt, I want my money back.

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