Who's the one star??? AJ?
"Yeah, but don't forget that guys like Baron Corbin and Mojo Rawley are also under his watch." Is he supposed to turn every talent/character/gimmick into an A+ winner? I mean, can't we agree there's more good than bad in terms of what's being developed?
I think that's still a pretty solid track record overall, and it's not like they're pushing Mojo down our throats going over more talented guys every week, and they've kept Corbin away from the NXT Title picture. Just like a sports GM's ability to draft talent, all you can ask for is more hits than misses, and so far I think he's done well.
While not one of the top women yet, I think they've got something with Alexa Bliss as a heel. Great look and what I thought was a very good backstage promo this week. If she can go at all in the ring, she could be Trish 2.0.
Besides Punk, hingsight has nothing to do with it. TNA had their chances to sign all of those guys plus tons of others that have signed elsewhere. Heck they couldn't even keep their own talent like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Bad Influence, Chris Sabin, Young Bucks, Bully Ray, Doc Gallows, Jay Lethal, Hernandez, Rhino, and more. All of those guys are thriving in other companies right now. It seems like TNA enjoys low balling their roster when contract negotiations come up. There is a trend that it is happening more and more lately. Heyman wanted to run TNA with Daniel Bryan as the main star, but Dixie and Co. declined and instead threw millions of dollars at Hogan and Bischoff.
This argument is dumb. It's like saying that abc is stupid for not putting Jerry Seinfeld in Perfect Strangers.
A couple WWE castoff a were justified. Angles don't grow on trees and Jeff Hardy was at Cena levels of merch sales at one point.
nice storytell it to readers digest
As long as he and his wife keep on making themselves the centre of attention on the main show, HHH can suck a dick.
Haters gonna hate.
"I mean, can't we agree there's way more good than bad in terms of what's being developed?"I'd say it's about 50/50.
Re: guys like Corbin and Mojo...so the fuck what? That's one of the things that's great about pro wrestling, the variety of body types and sizes, variety of characters, wrestling styles, etc. And like Miko said, it isn't like those guys are being pushed to the moon. Not everyone's gonna pan out. For that matter not all of the blue-chippers will always pan out. Even before his injury Itami wasn't exactly lighting the world ablaze.
I predicted Punk back then...just saying
Yes we are.
"What's the deal with the car pool lane?""Don't be ridiculous"
Like second local show I went to was him and Cabana putting on a show after punk did like a 10 minute promo drawing crazy heat on the juggalo part of the crowd there. I was so anti juggalo that it was half way into the match before I realized...oh...he is the heel here..
At the end of the day, those are Vince's decisions. I do agree HHH and Steph could try to force the issue a bit more.
I said in a previous thread that the shoulder injury may be the best thing for him. He wasn't really connecting with the audience, and he looked like a nobody compared to Balor when they teamed up. This will give him time to work on promo skills and other ancillary stuff that will help him with the crowds.
There is a Good HHH and a Bad HHHGood HHH:-Puts over Daniel Bryan at WM-Builds a full-fledged performance center and AAA league that is now arguable the best wrestling show on the planet-Takes women's wrestling seriously-Signed indy darlings Zayn, Owens, Balor, Itami, and Samoa Joe and putting them over consistently in real life-Rebuilding the tag team divisionBad HHH-On television WAY TOO MUCH-What was the point of going over Sting?!?!-Stephanie-also, on television WAY TOO MUCH-Did I mention he was on TV way too much?-Stephanie-Taking heat on television from actual in ring talent.
Bringing them in? Sure. Keep re-signing them after multiple drunken, drugged out things? Nah
I predicted Sonny Siaki and Chris Harris to be WWE World Champions and I still stand by those predictions
This nerd gets it.
yeah I was watching some old heel Trish stuff from 04, Bliss needs to check those tapes out.
In fairness, who DIDN'T look at Siaki and think "Money."
I called him Money Siaki because I was pretty clever back then
TNA could have signed any of these NXT guys at any time, but it probably would not have made a difference. TNA's issues were not the roster, it was pretty much everything else from management to accounting to promotion to you name it.Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Kevin Owens, Finn Balor......they would have been wasted by this dumbfuck of a company. Cesaro would be pretty much where he is right now because he doesn't connect with the audience.
Owens on talk is Jericho this morning.... Interview begins at the 18:40 mark.
back in like 99 (maybe 2000) I predicted Edge and Jeff Hardy would be headlining WM in like 3 years...I at least got the right guys from those teams to end up headlining to at some level.
I'd like to know how many hours of my life I've wasted watching Triple H promos from episodes of RAW. 20+ minutes times X amount of weeks = INFINITY!
I very much enjoy this false narrative that the problem with TNA was that the roster didn't have enough indie darlings.The roster was literally the only thing the got right for ten years.
Being A Great Dad Life Hack: instead of raising kids to be great, adopt kids that are already great
Would be way too interested in listening stats for the first 20 minutes of every Jericho pod
Probably way down there with Granny segments on Bryan & Vinny
I love Jericho but his openings are not good. Austin's opens are light years more fun
You just argued against the best show ever so...that didn't work. Although TGIF might not be the best venue for "The Contest"
You know what would have totally saved TNA?Signing John Cena before WWE did.
They should have signed Vince McMahon to run the company
Aye. The story is one of wasted talent, not of them lacking talent.
I always throught Bret was the star of the Hart Foundation. They all told me I was mad! Mad!
You adopted children? Good for you! It's a very noble thing to do to give a child a home.
I'm getting pretty tired of all this, "Things will be so great when HHH & Stephanie are in charge" bullshit. What world are we living in? They ARE in charge. Like if Triple H & Stephanie were really sooooo concerned with women's wrestling on Raw (which has been a joke for like 10 years), they would've done something by now.
I rolled my eyes at Scott's reply.
hi y HHH no god?
I've done no such thing!
LLOL And, the early bar for my laugh of the day has been set.
Then how can you promote a father life hack if you haven't done the hacking yourself?!
THIS nerd gets it!
Agreed. But in fairness, there are HOFers who might look like nobodies compared to Finn. That might've been the worst thing for him, teaming those two up when Finn came in.
Any of those guys would probably have jobbed to Hogan anyway.
I meant HHH!
Even the "WWE Castoffs" make sense. Angle, Jeff, RVD, EC3... even Anderson looked like a ton of raw potential.
I think the amount of time they've been on TV since Mania has been just fine. Yeah, there's a few overly long promos here and there but they've been off several shows entirely and haven't been nearly the focal point they were for much of last year. But as always, keep in mind I am an unabashed HHH apologist.
Talented young indy starsWWE castoffs that still have something leftBig name legends like Sting, Hogan, FlairThat really is all you could EVER need to run a successful promotion
Ohhhhhh...completely over my head!Although, in my defense, dudes post random stuff on here all the time. :)
He also made Shield look great last spring.
I think Sting was the only guy who actually moved the needle for them (his first appearance boosted them from like .8 to the 1.1 they became accustomed to)
Nah, don't apologise for my misfires.
Did Vince McMahon die?
cuz net nerds
I think you should adopt a child now for real.
(I think Night is hinting that you should be his papa)
In the early 60s, I knew Terry Funk was going to be a total star
Hoss. Is. HERE.
Hey Bayless...you have a small type at the top. "...with the exceptions being the 8/ and 8/10 shows." You're missing the day on the first date.
Yeah, good luck with that! I'm off to the daily update!
Good looking out.
Kevin Owens is my favourite wrestler right now, now that DB is on the shelf. They've done such a good job pushing him that I can't even visualize him getting pinned.I swear, if Cena is the one to do it...
See you there!
For real though, this is why we can't have nice things. Believe it or not they pay attention to what us smark internet geeks have to say, which is largely why they've thrown us the bone that is NXT. They're obviously trying to appeal to a wider audience but they do care what we think too.So when we still whine like this- like, who fucking cares in 2015 what they were doing with then women's division in 2005 when the talent they're training now is fucking amazing?- they see that shit and take the opinions of their hardcore base audience a lot less seriously then they otherwise would.Legit criticism is fine and even necessary, but stop whining like a bitch over shit that doesn't even matter.
I'm so glad they have Kane around to just plug in to any empty spot they may have on the card.
Just kinda noticed. No biggie; figure it's 8/3. Feeding animals now, then napping. My fucking body clock still thinks being awake til about 4am is the way to go, while the Hoss zoo thinks breakfast has to be between 8a-9a Hosstime. #HOSSPROBLEMS
Kane: Pro-wrestling's seat-filler.
I said pretty much the same thing during the NXT thread; the part about KO being my fave. I really can't see Cena pinning him clean, but would it really be a surprise?
Um, if they're having Brock back in Japan, they need to make that a Big Show match.
To quote Mr Blonde, if they hadn't done what I told 'em not to do, they'd still be alive.
It wouldn't be a surprise but it would leave a bad taste, I think.
I get the feeling that Kofi read this update, then immediately said "aw, HELL NO."
My god, Kofi's going to die in Japan!
OH I JUST REALIZED I HAVE OTHER PLANS
When the Cena-Owens match was first announced, I had no problem with Cena pinning Owens, just as long as Owens looked strong in the loss. I figured Owens will get his shot down the road.Now that he has all this awesome momentum going on, Owens needs to be protected. Owens should get DQ'd for kicking too much ass or something.
I'm not so sure though. Vince has created a culture and template for how he wants to run things. He is the final say when it comes to RAW and their big events. Stephanie and HHH have a big say in that too, but how things are run is established by Vince and he started it years before Steph and HHH had anything to do with it.HHH has done a lot right outside of that culture, things that are brand new. Performance center, NXT, even minor things like mending fences with Bruno. It seems as is Vince has certainly lost touch with his audience, the Austin podcast seemed to really confirm that. But he is a workaholic and dedicated. His leadership in the company has never been questioned. You can't change the entire direction of a company in a week, especially when the head of it believes that the current way is the right way of doing things.
That Japan house show should be on the Network.
Yeah, because no one told him. Kofi gets his news from the BoD. That's pretty funny.
One more thought about TNA's "roster issues:"People act like letting Daniels/Kaz/AJ go is like some giant fatal mistake, while conveniently ignoring that those guys had been in TNA longer than Hulk Hogan was in WWF. Exactly how many times would you like to see AJ vs Daniels anyways? A hundred times?Then in the same breath they'll say the big mistake was not hiring Paul Heyman and giving him full booking and roster control. He was vocal that if he got hired "anybody over 35 is gone." Which would include the AJ/Kaz/Daniels group as well as Roode and Storm.So which one is it? You can't have both.
Also of note: Sheamus has reportedly been cast as Rocksteady in the TMNT sequel.I don't particularly care about that film, but some of you may.
Weekend Plans! Saturday: FA Cup Final booze up most of tomorrow day and nightSunday: Travel up north to watch Qatar vs Northern Ireland in an incredibly random soccer friendly match taking place in my hometown
That's a lot of soccer, mate.Make sure you bring your fully-lit torch for burning things down at a moment's notice.
I think that's kind of lowballing it, but to each their own.
There's not much soccer left. Just the Champions League final next Saturday then nothing until August :'( #summerofshit
I think it would be cool to have Owens win the belt and demand that Cena or anyone come to NXT to win in back. Sort of continue the open challenge on NXT. I like keeping it as a separate entity, but something like that might be interesting
When is cricket season?
BigNasty is never happy.
The guy has been injecting everything he can find at this point, and offering to be wellness tested.
No idea. There's probably cricket on right now. The same match dragging on for 365 days probably.
I hear that a man died from malnutrition watching cricket.
Random quirk about soccer - calling exhibition matches "friendlies" has to be the wussiest thing they do.
Can't have both? you are talking to wresting fans you know
Cricket. I just can't even. I find baseball boring and that's 3 hours. Cricket can be 5 days. My only sports are soccer, UFC and wrestling.
So Jeff Jarrett, Jim Duggan and Lance Hoyt were at a local minor league baseball game last night promoting GFW. I was there and figured what the heck and went to meet them. There were like 5 people in line so I got to have long-ish conversations with them all, and they were in good spirits and pleasant. Jeff seemed relieved that he met a person willing to pay money to see his fed.
I really want to see that Brock/Kofi match. Easy ****. I hope it's taped for a future DVD or something.
They used to be called "cuddlies" but it was deemed too harsh
Yeah. We tend to not realize when things are mutually exclusive.
Where do you live? if you don't mind me asking
They thought about Samoa Joe for the Japan show... but they'd have to change his music to avoid a catastrophic event.
We want Paul...and a Benjamin Button disease for AJ...
Hahaha I go back and forth - I'm mostly sick of the entire "authority" character that has been around since 1998. But real life HHH is doing good things.
Hopefully they give Owens a pay bump for working on the main roster.
Shit, make it a Network Exclusive the following week.
How would we feel about Owens losing to Cena, then taking Rusev's place and winning the IC title?
Seriously though, he's always grumpy and whiny as fuck. Smoke a bowl, get laid, take a walk in the goddamn park...something, dude.
I hope you see all of your favorite soccer stars like Adiaga, Adiaga II, Badiaga, Aruglia, and Pizzoza!
Nottingham. But I was born in Crewe, and my brother and Mum live there now. That's where the match is.
That first sentence sounded like it should've be the start to a joke
Good point. In fact, I was puzzled when ROH announced that AJ/Joe vs Daniels/Kazarian match the other day. I would be perfectly happy not seeing them wrestle each other for a few more years
Holds it! Holds it! Holds it!
Didn't waste much time on Owens at all! Glad to see it, he's a quality dude and I'm happy to see him be so successful and make it to the main roster so quickly.
ah...Silly me thought a match between Northern Ireland and Qatar would be taking place in Ireland and not England. Planning a trip to Ireland for the fall as we speak so I thought if you were from Ireland I'd be open to any vacationing advice.
Never been, I'm afraid. Know nothing about Ireland. This is a really random location for the match, they just needed somewhere cheap to play I guess.
Duggan seems like a top notch bloke after seeing him on Legends House. Wouldn't care as much for meeting Jarrett or give two stuffs about Hoyt, but Hacksaw is great.
Duggan comes off like a dick on all of his shoot interviews.
I thought I heard that Owens and a few other guys from the indies, Balor, Kenta, etc, were already getting WAY more than the people who get hired off the football field or what have you.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3101289/The-baddies-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtle-2-villains-Shredder-Bebop-Rocksteady-seen-set-time.htmlI wasn't super impressed by the first one, but I thought they nailed the charactizations of the turtles pretty well.
As they should.
I watched the timeline he did for Kayfabe and he didn't seem to bad to me there.
If it's a competitive match and Kofi is allowed to wrestle, it could be pretty dope.
He can't compete with Nash as Super Shredder
I hate that TMNT movie. I won't watch this one.
United have their pre-season tour in July, where they'll be facing PSG and Barcelona.
He was great! Signed an extra picture for a former fan coworker of mine after I told him about how she remembered him giving her a thumbs up at an old house show. The people in front of me had a little daughter around 5-ish and he sang her the song from Frozen since she said she hated wrestling.
You should have seen some of the old Scotland v England 'friendlies' - a misnomer and no mistake :)
Joe has to get involved for a screwy finish, surely. SURELY?!?
Hoss, did you know that people in Dubai don't like the Flintstones?It's ok, though, because people in Abu Dhabi do!
How many guitars did he go through signing autographs?
I don't think he does, and don't call me Shirley....
Man, I almost want to ignore our summer tour. Last year we won every game and i started the season thinking we were world beaters. And then we *sucked* in the league for months. It was quite a comedown.
I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to it.
Anyone else suffering from a lack of motivation at work today?
Welp, my first choice of restaurant for date no. 2 with this chick was a no go; I forgot they don't take reservations and there's no way we wouldn't have to wait for a table at 7:30ish on a Saturday. I'm kinda worried my backup plan could be a more romantic-type setting than I'd like for a second date, it's one of those old-timey Italian restuarants. I'm probably overthinking things because this is the first time in, like, ever that I've dated someone that I didn't first already know, was friends with, worked with, etc.
Oh hell yeah. I'm here aren't I?
Hell I'm suffering from lack of motivation at work of reading this rick steves ireland book and planning my vacation...I think that trumps all other lacks of motivation
We're on the verge of a merger... everyone is strangely quiet.
We were ahead of City for a while, too. Then we lost to Chelsea and things went downhill again.
just don't try the lady and the tramp spaghetti thing and you should be fine.
"It's a big building with patients, but that not impo-""That's not a building, doctor. It's the Big Show. You should see the size of his hands.."
Take her to Barcadia but just tell her it's Dorsia.
Women can never scale down... remember that. So if you're upscale on the second date... it just has to keep getting better.We went to Outback for our first date, and we've gone back every year since to celebrate.
The idea of Owens winning the IC title and a rematch with Cena at SummerSlam to unify the two midcard titles popped in my head and now I really want that to happen.
Looking at the topics of this update, I can only imagine the question was "Who are three people who could kick the ass of anyone on this blog?"
You can divide our season into 3 pretty distinct chunks. The first ten games when nothing clicked and we were rubbish. The mid season when we lost like 2 in 25 and looked solid and at times great, and then the end of the season where the title was gone and we just couldn't be bothered. I'm confident enough in that middle section that we can challenge next year
Had dinner at the Olde Spaghetti Factory last night ladies and gentlemen... very good if you like old spaghetti... from a factory.
This should be the update every day... just what these three guys are doing.
I hope you handed him one dime to prove Mike Graham wrong.
They should make the entire card a Network Exclusive. Celebrate the country's birthday with a Japanese ass kicking!
Itami vs Ryback,
TRY GETTING A REVERVATION AT DORSIA NOW YOU FUCKING STUPID BASTARD!
Good point. This place isn't, like, super fancy or expensive, I'm not that dumb. But she's a pretty down-to-earth chick, so I'm not super concerned about about that anyway.
Where do you live?
1000 up votes for this
At least we're in the Champions League next season, so there's that. The problem near the end of this season was pretty much lack of motivation.
Yeah seriously. And don't use the penis pump the first time because you're gonna end up always having to use it
Is that also on the card, or did you have a seizure that caused you to type out random match combinations?
Yeah we tend not to show up if we've nothing to fight for
Hey, I'm just saying it's not like HHH has some godlike eye for talent, because he's whiffed on his share of stuff. Signing Prince Devitt wasn't exactly spotting a diamond in the rough, ya know? #keepingitreal #justsayin #thanksobama
The last match against Hull showed that.
There's a lot of Parks & Recreation on TV in the mornings. I like it.
Ryback: i dont injure people, people just happen to get injured in matches with me after i do a move badly.
"Rusev killed a moose and ate it""Brock Lesnar helped a lady cross the street, then f-5'd her.""Kevin Owens smashed a bottle over his own head, then tilted a pinball machine."
So is Owens going to pull double duty for Main Roster/NXT, or does Joe or Balor take the belt off him? I don't read the NXT spoilers (and don't really want to know), but I assume the Owens didn't lose the belt in the four episodes they taped right after Takeover. So he'd carry it at least until the next tapings, or maybe he just works both shows for a while.
You should go on yelp or whatever and find a hole in the wall eatery that has AMAZING food, particularly whatever her favourite cuisine is. It could be like an adventure, trying a new and quirky place plus it shows you're making an effort based on her interests (in this case, her fave dishes).
I guess he could technically lose it on a RAW or WWE PPV, too.
Body Slam challenge.
I'd be shocked if they take the title off of him on anything less than a Takeover special, and the next one doesn't happen for a few months. Since they only tape NXT once every four weeks or so, he's free on Monday nights.
Jericho vs Balor is also on that card. Yeah, they really need to put that on the network.
Yes, that would be AJ.
Yes. Yelp has helped Mrs. Stranger and myself find cool new places to eat.Like this Salvadoran restaurant just down the street from us. God DAMN those street tacos were excellent.
Aye. Some real wasted time watching United in the last month or so of the season
I guess it depends on what the do with him. If he's just going to work RAWs and WWE PPVs but stay on the NXT house show circuit, then they don't have a big issue. He can carry feuds simultaneously across the two brands. If he goes on the main roster tour, then it becomes an issue, because you have NXT shows without the champion.
Below that Luck album cover was this gem http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/2015/05/insane-wrestler-scott-steiner-is-putting-up-1-million-of-his-own-money-to-challenge-hulk-hogan/
Just witnessed a dude trying to explain the word "thug" to us. According to him, because of Baltimore, It has a new meaning: it exclusively means "black person" and is a "racial slur" which is "bad as the n-word". And, ironically, he was practically told to fuck himself by a black dude.Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill.
Further Owens fantasy booking: Doing a thing similar to what they did with Itami, but with Rusev. Make it seem like Owens took him out for his spot. In a few months, when Rusev is healthy, have Owens being a dick to Lana in the ring. Rusev makes his return and the save and turns babyface.
So does HHH hide KO in closet until it's time for his segments to keep him away from Vince and his wacky ideas?"Say kid, how do you feel about...POLKA DOTS?"
Nottingham! I know only about Robin Hood and Dan Hardy from your neck of the woods.
I have a hard time believing he's going to do much business with these ballpark tours. Not even really sure why he's doing them to be honest. Didn't this strategy fail for TNA a year or so ago?
There are a lot less NXT house shows than other WWE shows, so it might be possible for him to split his time. And how has NXT not scheduled a show at the Hammerstein or another small NYC venue?
Thug has long been used a code word for nigger.
I think that would be one of the most MURICAN matches to put on in Japan.
Of those five guys (AJ, Daniels, Kaz, Roode, Storm), only Daniels was over 35 at the time Heyman was talking to TNA. So yeah, they could have had both.
I'd be shocked if they don't do a TV taping at Hammerstein before the end of the year. But, from what I've heard, WWE is insistent on keeping NXT's budget as shoestring as possible so maybe they don't want to pay for it.
And originated in India and has been a code word to describe bullies and mobsters and union thugs.
Don't know about where you live, but here in Iowa it has certainly taken on equivalency to the n word.
Clearly we are getting Brock/Owens at Summerslam...right guys? Riiiiight?