Hey Scott,Thought this might be a good discussion for the blog. With the news of DA (allegedly) canceling impact, there must be a dvd in the near future from WWE about this ala ECW and WCW, right?
Aside from the standard documentary , which matches would be included on the set? Aside from the Unbreakable three-way, and maybe a match from the first show, has TNA had any (allegedly) historic matches of any kind?
Thanks!
~Nick
Woof, good question. Maybe an Ultimate X match of some kind? Probably I'd go with a few representative matches to showcase the different styles of stuff they did (Full Metal Mayhem, Ultimate X, that other thing with the cage and the weapons) rather than trying to highlight specific things from their history. Probably the Joe v. Angle matches would be the most historic, or something like Randy Savage's last match, I guess.
Any better guesses?
TNA definitely had enough quality matches for a good DVD retrospective. The Unbreakable 3-Way, the AMW/XXX match where Skipper walked across the cage, the early X-Division and Knockouts stuff, Raven vs Jarrett, Joe vs Angle, oddities like Macho and DDP showing up - you're looking at an easy 3-disc set.
ReplyDeleteMust have:
ReplyDeleteAMW vs. XXX cage match
Joe vs. Daniels vs. Styles
Jarrett vs. Sting
Kurt vs. Joe
Kurt vs. Jay Lethal
Sabin vs. Low Ki
Styles/Daniels vs. LAX
Abyss/Styles from Lockdown
Christian winning the NWA Title
Honestly, before 2008ish there was a ton of good stuff in the ring in TNA
I don’t think there’ll be a rise and fall
ReplyDeleteDVD. Maybe some matches here or there, but there’s no real *story*
behind TNA. It was poorly run, it was never that successful, and then it went
out of business. There’s no “rise and fall” narrative like with WCW, or ECW. It’s
not a good story. It’s just a bunch of stuff that happened, to quote Homer.
The rehearsed way isn't how I prefer wrestling, but in the NXT sense it's getting awesome matches from the more advanced wrestlers and acceptable matches from those who are still learning. People will learn to improv as they go. It's fine.
ReplyDeleteIt only bothers me if I can tell, and I can't.
ReplyDeleteFor "Fall" you need:
ReplyDeleteSting vs Stoned Jeff Hardy
Hogan vs. Sting
Jenna Morasca's abortion of a match
Reverse Battle Royal
Pacman Jones not actually wrestling
The Existence and Fall of TNA.
ReplyDeleteHonestly with developmental talent I'm not worried if I can tell. I expect it, the same way I can tell how college basketball coaches call the plays.
ReplyDeleteThat ref is none other than CZW long-timer Drake Younger, good dude and four time Jean Claude Van Damme Lookalike Contest winner
ReplyDeleteThat's a good comparison. I'd guess if I watched a match over again looking for it I could probably spot it, but it's honestly not something I'm conscious of until something gets fucked up.
ReplyDeleteYou forgot Jarrett pinning a red hot Month Brown
ReplyDeletePoint in fact, everything is fine.
ReplyDeleteWith a serious case of PMA as well.
ReplyDeleteNot a match, but they need to include Bully Ray's 5-part retconning of the Aces and 8s storyline.
ReplyDeleteUsing a TNA phrase for NXT?
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Most of my favorite matches of theirs were in the Nashville, four-sided-ring era. I'd put the XXX vs America's Most Wanted cage match on there for sure, and probably several combinations of Styles/Daniels/Lynn/Low-Ki/Red. Maybe even R-Truth winning the "NWA World Title."
ReplyDeleteEven after, I thought the Main Evednt Mafia storyline started really strong.
ReplyDeleteGauntlet for the Gold to crown a NWA Champion (1st show)
ReplyDeleteStyles vs. Lynn vs. Low Ki - Ladder match for X-Division title
Jarrett vs. Raven - NWA ittle match
AMW vs. XXX - Both Steel cage matches
Styles vs. Abyss - Lockdown 05
Styles vs. Joe vs. Daniels - Unbreakable 05
Petey vs. Sabin vs. Styles - Ultimate X from Final Resolution 05
Jarrett vs. Sting - NWA title Bound for Glory 2005
Jarrett vs. Christian - NWA title match from Against All Odds 06
Joe vs. Angle - Angle's 1st match in TNA Genesis 06
King of the Mountain match to crown 1st ever TNA Champion - Slammiversary 2007
Angle vs. Sting - Bound For Glory 2007
Angle vs. Joe - TNA title Lockdown 08
Beer Money vs. MCMG - 2/3 falls from The Whole F'in Show
Sting vs. Hogan - Bound For Glory 2011
Roode vs. Storm - Bound For Glory 2012
Roode vs. Aries - Destination X 2012
Aries vs. Hardy - Bound For Glory 2012
Hardy vs. Bully - TNA title from Lockdown 2013
Bully vs. Styles - TNA title from Bound For Glory 2013
Spud vs. EC3 - Hair vs. Hair from the UK Impact
Lashley vs. Angle - TNA title from UK Impact
As for the ref being handsy. I actually did notice something sort of. I thought I saw him sort of palm Sashas crotch, but I wasn't sure. They were both on the outside of the ring and she was up resting against the apron?
ReplyDeleteDon't forget Sting vs Abyss, either the one where the NWA Title changed hands via DQ, or the Last Rites match that gave us (I think) the first Fire Russo chants
ReplyDeleteThe WWE.com post about how Drake went from hardcore wrestler to NXT ref is great:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/scars-stripes-drake-wuertz-nxt-hardcore-referee-27047554
The promotion telling fans to leave so Angle and Sting could have their match.
ReplyDeleteSo so dumb.
Sounds like your wife is an overreacter.
ReplyDeleteAlthough that raises an interesting question: since NXT and HHH have such a progressive outlook on women in wrestling, why not reach out and hire some female refs? Obviously they're not gonna be doing ref bumps in mens' matches and maybe they wouldn't even ref mens' matches because blah blah patriarchy these little wimmin can't control the men blah blah, but it seems like one of those little touches that adds a more dynamic angle to the TV presentation. I know that the WWE claims to not pay attention to the UFC and HHH/Steph swear they aren't UFC fans and are just Ronda Rousey fans, but WWE and NXT are clearly taking some cues from MMA and to my knowledge, all female UFC bouts have female refs, so...
JAYZUS, man. Did you have this already prepared for when it happens?
ReplyDeleteImpressive.
Exactly - while I understand why being able to improvise is important, I think "rehearsing" gets too much flak. Randy friggin' Savage used to plan out every detail of his matches.
ReplyDeleteGood idea!
ReplyDeleteEh that Gauntlet for the Gold was such crap. Yeah it crowned a champion, but it's for a title that only a handful of people will ever care about. I don't think TNA really merits a "history."
ReplyDeletealso I forgot to add Austin Aries winning the title from Bobby Rooode, that entire show was the last gasp of TNA - they haven't ever been able to get that hot again.
ReplyDeleteHow are you holding up? I was worried about you yesterday.
ReplyDeleteCalling the spots, not calling the spots....Sasha Banks executes that shiz like a mofo.
ReplyDeleteWould it make sense to have Sara Del Ray as the women's ref? Or would her being the head trainer be too close much like holding their hands through the match.
ReplyDeleteThat was one of the best examples of chicken salad out of chicken shit I've ever seen in wrestling.
ReplyDelete......wait, what?
ReplyDeleteI was GOING to make this list, but you beat me to it. Hey remember that awesome Aries match with Sting on Impact? Pretty much anything with Aries post 2011 should be on there, especially the Ladder Match with Jeff Hardy.
ReplyDeleteIt would just have to be something like "The Best of TNA."
ReplyDeleteI'm fine lol. I actually don't mind if they go under. Their roster is a shell of what it used to be and all the talent that I enjoyed watching in TNA aren't there anymore.
ReplyDeleteNah. I threw it together in about five minutes lol
ReplyDeleteYeah it was an awful match, but I put it up there for historical purposes.
ReplyDeleteNow that's a fan.
ReplyDeleteTNA had some interesting ideas, too - obvious the X division was a cool evolution of the old cruiserweight division so bigger guys could do it, Lockdown was a great idea, the Ultimate X match, the Bound for Glory series was great, the X Cup with talent from all over the world, Destination X a ppv devoted entirely to the X division, later on the Plan C where the X champ can turn the title in for a shot, and taking Women's wrestling seriously.
ReplyDeleteThere were a ton of dumb ideas, too, but that stuff was really cool
NXT results for next month are circulating if people are interested. Not in the spoiling business but to nobody's surprise. It's good tv.
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