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WWF's larger ring

One of the things that always struck me back in the Monday Night Wars (and still stands out when watching old non-WWF stuff on the Network) was the difference in size between the WCW and WWF ring (as well as WCW using cables while the WWF used ropes).  What was the reason for the WWF using a larger ring than pretty much everyone else?


​I think probably because they had larger guys than WCW and wanted to look "bigger" on TV, if I had to guess.  Ring sizes vary so wildly that it was actually kind of unusual for a company like the WWF to have a standardized 20x20 setup like they did.  I honestly never thought about it watching the shows, but then I'm not the most observant person when it comes to that stuff anyway.  ​

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  1. I'm backed up on Impact - haven't watched the last 2 episodes. Anything worth catching on them or can I just delete them off the DVR and start fresh tonight?

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  2. EVERYTHING IS FINE.

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  3. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©May 15, 2015 at 12:14 PM

    The Dollhouse is interesting.

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  4. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©May 15, 2015 at 12:17 PM

    Lucha Underground, NXT, and TNA competing against each other? What a great time to be fan! We get the lopsided Wednesday Night wars!

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  5. Not just the ring itself, but the outside ring area. If you could grow grass out there, you can have 300 cows graze there and they would never go hungry.

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  6. NXT needs more star power to compete with Lucha Underground and TNA. SEND DOWN KANE AND BIG SHOW.

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  7. Didn't really think of it before but does hit you when you watch that Monday Night War episode on cruiserweights and the guys there are point-blank on "WWF was always about big men" and enhanced that any way they could. Thus, the cruiserweights really did help folks tune in to WCW to see wild stuff.

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  8. Five years later and it still astounds that TNA not only thought they would compete head-to-head but actually beat RAW. Seriously, if the company just took it back and built on what they have, they can get really going but this obsession with becoming WWE-level right now shoots them in the foot every time.

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  9. Wouldn't this be a DA decision this time though?

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  10. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM

    The bigger the ring, the bigger the ring rats.

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  11. You really have to see WWF's ring in person to appreciate how big it was.

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  12. Better to be third-most interesting behind Lucha and NXT than third-most interesting behind two blank spaces.

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  13. Bigfoot's monster truck would have to be Bigfoot right? Or is that too obvious and he's actually a Gravedigger fan.

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  14. Bischoff and Hogan talked TNA into doing three things:
    1) Going live on Mondays
    2) Taking Impact on the road
    3) Going to a traditional ring

    1 & 2 were gigantic financial blunders, and 3 took away what made TNA unique (although the workers vastly prefer the 4-sided ring).

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  15. TJ: finest America the Beautiful at WrestleMania? I'm going with 11.

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  16. So that's why the Rosetti Sisters were always around...

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  17. What's weird is the original idea behind TNA was to be the new Crockett. How odd they succeeded, at least on the "owner overspending and getting nothing" end.

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  18. If they wanted their guys to look bigger, wouldn't they have used a smaller ring?

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  19. "Yep Mode" Abeyance Brown ©May 15, 2015 at 12:55 PM

    And on top of all that, they thought they could do it during Mania season.

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  20. You know, I didn't even think about that. With pretty exciting programming (I know, I know) they could've made a dent in the down periods (like September through December). But during Mania season? Not a chance.

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  21. Lucha Underground ought to feature more Ivelisse just to stick it to TNA. Also because I like to look at her.

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  22. Turnbuckle pads the size of frying pans!

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  23. Right? Like dating a girl with small hands so your dick looks bigger

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  24. WWE really missed the boat on her but why hire her when you can hire the last place finisher in Tough Enough?

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  25. Do all the workers prefer the four sided ring? Weren't most of the complainers guys who didn't even stick around like Bully Ray?

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  26. For me the WWF ring wasn't bigger - the others were SMALLER. ;-) It was one reason that WCW was never the real No1 because their ring was so small that everything looked second rate.

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  27. WWF was the only company I have seen with rings almost as massive as they used to use in Japan.

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  28. Rod Roddy or Johnny Olson. One of my favorite TPIR memories was Ox Baker's appearance.

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  29. According to Reddit, yep.

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  30. Bullshit on the name is my guess.

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  31. Guy's probably got one chance to go make big-time money. Glad to see he's taking it seriously and giving it everything.

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  32. Only way I can see Joe keeping his name is if he signed it over to WWE.

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  33. Maybe this will be his last gig, one way or another.

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  34. They were just trying to make their "tank" authentic

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  35. Kinda wish I didn't run over to reddit to read the article. Includes a major spoiler.

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  36. I'll miss his Godzilla-like entrance theme from TNA.

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  37. Hopefully they do a version of it in NXT.

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  38. I hope they at least give him a soundalike. If he does a surprise entrance with that in NXT the pop will rival anything on the main show with a bigger audience.

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  39. Now i'm even more exited for that show.Could not care less about Payback tho

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  40. Whoa, he look like he lost a ton of weight

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  41. ThebrazilianpsychoMay 15, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    At the end of Takeover. Steen is celebrating his win, then lights out, Joe's theme plays.

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  42. Does it have to do with his debut?

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  43. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    Just went to Rotten Tomatoes to check out Mad Max:Fury Road. 98% with 189 reviews, with only three negative. One of the negative reviewers basically stated that there is too much action.


    Sometimes I wonder how RT discerns a negative review if there is "some" praise in the review.

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  44. The problem with Rotten Tomatoes is I think there are critics who aim to be THAT GUY.

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  45. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    What's his name? Armand White. For a long time he WAS that guy. I haven't checked him out in a while.

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  46. Yea, Armand White sucked. But I always thought the outrage was worse. Yes, he's a troll, stop wasting your time freaking out about it.

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  47. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 1:42 PM

    Oh man, did he hate fanboy films or what? That's where the outrage mostly came from.

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  48. No, he hated any film acclaimed by RottenTomatoes and loved Steven Spielberg.

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  49. I don't take it too seriously, but I generally tend to use it to decide whether to see movies I'm on the fence about.

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  50. What can he say? He's a huge fan of Scenes of People Looking.


    (Now that MST3K pointed that out in his movies, I can't unsee it)

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  51. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 1:46 PM

    Yeah, I basically use it as a guide for recent films if I intend to see it in a theatre.

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  52. Maybe the review, like a lot of reviews, has a scale like 2 out of 4 or whatever.

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  53. Thaddeus MountainMay 15, 2015 at 1:47 PM

    I'm not your guy, fwend!

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  54. Tsarnaev just got the Death Penalty

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  55. They should just cremate him. Alive.

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  56. Good. Let's do it publicly.

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  57. I swear I could listen to Steve Austin and TedFowler361 (on Twitter) all day long.

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  58. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    The Boston marathon bomber.

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  59. "Let's get ready for a lifetime of being badass motherfuckers!"


    *rides on a weak ass bicycle*

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  60. Jim Cornette and the Young Bucks to GFW

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  61. "Competing" with Lucha Underground? You are aware that Impact draws 10x more viewers, right?

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  62. "You want me to beat your dick off?! I'll beat your dick off with both hands!"

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  63. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 1:54 PM

    Have I seen Chael Sonnon on their roster?

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  64. CNN's website has "DEATH" in size 400 font on the front page.

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  65. metacritic is so much better.

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  66. They can continue their twitter feud into the ring

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  67. Could you imagine the pop if Joe came out and hit Owens with the Muscle Buster to end Takeover next week?

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  68. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    The GFW roster page. I'm assuming this is current, of course.

    http://www.globalforcewrestling.com/roster/

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  69. I think Owens & Joe as a team on the main roster would be fun too

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  70. Hearts & minds... hearts & minds.

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  71. They'd be a smashmouth team that Watts would've loved.

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  72. Wow, that's a lot of talent. And Karen Jarrett.

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  73. That site looks out of 2003

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  74. I'd like to see him come out to his music, but be held apart a la Angle debuting in TNA.

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  75. GUYS SERIOUSLY
    IF CORNETTE IS THERE
    THAT MEANS RUSSO WON'T BE THERE
    REPEAT
    THAT MEANS RUSSO WON'T BE THERE EVER

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  76. Goddamn Anthony Rizzo just hit a moonshot.

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  77. Wesley Morris is like that. Grantland brought him in for some reason.

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  78. Yeah, it's there. Which is weird, because I'd think that WWE would throw fistfulls of cash at Sonnen.

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  79. That's weird, man!

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  80. Over the construction section.

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  81. Love that fucking movie

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  82. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    Yup. It still looks minor leagues to me. Even with Scott Hall, Shelton Benjamin and Chael Sonnen.

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  83. Pretty much everyone with any experience. The guys all learn in a 4-sided ring.

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  84. Enough of a troll that RT took him out of their compilation pile

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  85. At the same time, major movies get about 200 compiled reviews so usually the consensus is clear. Critics can be THAT GUY but doesn't stop movies like GOTG, Dredd, or Jump St. scoring high when everyone's tally is counted

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  86. Decided to watch somebody play Ikaruga again. Still pretty ridiculous.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8MoniJKCjY

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  87. From what I've seen, yeah it's balls hard

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  88. Get out your Surge Cola and your Airwalk shoes, it's time to get X-TREME!

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  89. ThebrazilianpsychoMay 15, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    I actually think Sonnen can be a great wrestler if he wants to.

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  90. Cesaro debuts against Tyson Kidd, squashes him in 90 seconds, then has this ill sounding announcer all over him as Teddy Long is nearly in tears watching them.


    What did I miss here?

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  91. What a great time to be a Cubs fan. I knew, the day that Ricketts hired Epstein, that we'd finally get a team built correctly that could contend regularly. After a pretty painful (albeit relatively quick) rebuild, it's nice to see the beginnings of that team. I don't expect them to win anything this year, but starting 2017 or so I expect them to be like the Cardinals, that team that's just..... there..... every year.

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  92. ThebrazilianpsychoMay 15, 2015 at 2:05 PM

    Too bad Ricochet is LU.

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  93. Teddy was dating the announcer at the time, storyline wise.

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  94. LOL I was wondering whether or not Jarrett was actually wrestling. I clicked on his pic for a bio and...

    "BIo"



    Smoooooth.

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  95. It'll last until their Money-mark dies.

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  96. "HEY! Stop fuckin' with Korean Jesus! He's busy! Dealin' with Korean shit!"

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  97. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 2:06 PM

    Cesaro was Aksana's ex-boyfriend of something. She was dating Teddy Long at the time.

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  98. They have a solid roster. I feel like they are one big name away... if the could get Goldberg to commit for a run, he could help get them some recognition as they get established. Even if hangs around for just 9-12 months or whatever.

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  99. I'm not complaining lol, I rather see him there

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  100. It's harder than that. For the crazy pros for these types of games, it's not just beating it, it's getting the best score.


    To get the best score, you have absorb their bullets, so when you're white, you can absorb white bullets, same with black. That adds to the combo meter in this game that raises the multiplier. PLUS, absorbing all of those bullets builds your special meter, which you can then shoot for massive damage.


    I'm not sure wasn't a totally original design, but it was a crazy game for it's time.

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  101. Seriously, I would love to be able to meet Jeff Jarrett and tell him whoever designed ALL OF THAT needs to be fired, and blackballed, and then hire me as his replacement.

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  102. That giant embedded YouTube video at the top makes the whole thing look so bush league.

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  103. Christ. None of them have bios.


    I'm guessing George T. Murdoch is Brodus Clay?

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  104. It was just bizarre all the way around. And Kidd ended up as his tag team partner.
    How soon before we get the Natty love triangle?

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  105. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 2:08 PM

    Yeah. And PJ Black is Justin Gabriel.


    Shelton benjmain looks like Michael Tarver.

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  106. ThebrazilianpsychoMay 15, 2015 at 2:09 PM

    I mean Prince Puma.

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  107. That's the goof really, someone got paid for that.

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  108. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    The shelf life on tag teams made up of singles wrestlers appears to be 6-8 months. I expect them to break up by Survivor Series.

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  109. Now to forget all that appeals shit and set him off like a rocket on 7/4

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  110. On the advice of Vader, Samoa Joe's WWE name will be Leo Kruger

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  111. That IF is pretty loaded with young talent.

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  112. I would have never guessed that as a possible storyline for Long in a million years.

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  113. It's very old school in not just beating the game but mastering the mechanics

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  114. Any hack off the street can be given Wix or some other site builder and cook up something better

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  115. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 2:12 PM

    They could use a few more veterans, though, to counter-balance all that youth.

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  116. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Just look at Favre & Carve.

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  117. That Clay Matthews and Packers cameo in Pitch Perfect definitely seems like an RKO: Outta nowhere

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  118. Cameron obviously had more passion for the business than anybody from that cast.

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  119. I always noticed this, too. WCW's rings just looked MINISCULE by comparison.

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  120. The key is choosing the right pieces to trade and which guys to keep out of all the IF.

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  121. It's their approach to building the team that has me excited. Their scouting is excellent, they find new ways to exploit advantages in the system, and everyone at every level learns to play/coach the game the same way. It's a top-down system, reminiscent of the Braves of the 90s.


    They have the core of the team built around young talent on their pre-free agent contracts, so they can afford to go out and get the A-list free agents instead of overpaying for the B-team like the past teams did.

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  122. Remember when the sniper shot him during his wedding to Krystal?

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  123. I don't expect all of them to work out. Baez didn't seem to be making the right adjustments at the big league level, and Bryant may end up in the OF before it's all said and done.

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  124. As long as Lester doesn't have to throw to first they're good.

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  125. Stranger in the AlpsMay 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM

    I hope it takes off. Trying to find a network to carry wrestling nowadays is like trying to find a network to carry midget tossing tournaments.

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  126. I feel for you. I really do. I have an irrational love for ROH and I get it. I also think the TNA death talk/jokes are a little old. I just wish TNA would re-prioritize on going smaller and building up a sustainable touring business like ROH.

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  127. I get the feeling the movie is going to suck hard. They seem to be trying too hard for funny things to put in.

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  128. lol, true. But thankfully, this team is no longer worried about individual players. We aren't waiting for a Corey Patterson or a Felix Pie, we've got a stockpile of talent, but more importantly, we have an office that can scout and develop talent.


    It's like in Metal Marines on SNES where you build a bunch of Supply bases to get more money every second. It just gives you and advantage no matter if the opposition blows up individual AA guns up front.

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  129. Oh I agree. Bryant will be in the OF. I just mean they have a lot of assets they can choose to trade for pieces they need. They just have to be sure the ones they keep will be the stars. As a Mets fan I can assure you trading away players that star elsewhere sucks. Luckily for every Carlos Gomez and David Cone there's a Lastings Milledge and Scott Kazmir

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  130. Oh God, Felix Pie. The most painful a cringe-worthy injury in sports history. Testicular torsion.

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  131. AND AFTER ITS ALL SAID AND DONE YOU GON BE PICKIN SPLINTERS OUT OF YOUR FAAAAAAT ASSES

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  132. It'd be hilarious if he showed up, walked up to someone, said "What's your name?" and then said "Thanks. Now that's my name." And beats them up. And then comes out as that name.

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  133. From all reports, she was one of the first sacked for speaking against DeMott, so we can blame him for that too

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  134. Who cares? This is a wrestling blog...he should be hitting a moonsault!

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  135. That could be his gimmick. He kicks someones ass and then comes out to their name the next week. GET IT!?

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  136. Seems like a decent roster, I suppose. But damn...I'm hoping that site is a work in progress.

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  137. "You look like you might have a little Peter inside you!"

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  138. "The Clippers were as big as -7500 favorites to win last night during
    in-game betting at William Hill's Nevada sports book. A bettor put
    $488.90 on L.A. at that point to win $6. Instead, the Clippers blew a
    19-point lead to the Rockets and he lost all $488.90."

    I'm not (much of) a gambler...so I fail to understand why you'd put down nearly 5 C-Notes for a chance to win $6.

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  139. Because it's basically free money, even if it's just six bucks.

    Unless it fucks up.

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  140. Every EC3 in-ring segment are always entertaining. Right now is campaigning for a World Title shot as if he was running a political campaign, with speeches, ballons and campaign spot and and that's pretty awesome (except that they paired him against Anderson)

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  141. ThebrazilianpsychoMay 15, 2015 at 2:28 PM

    Is missing a few names, Drew Gulak, Busick, Timothy Thatcher, Candace LeRae, Johnny Gargano, Rich Swann.

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  142. Tuesday Nights?

    No way, that's when SHIELD and The Flash are on!

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  143. That's not even worth the effort of entering the bet.

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  144. Not only that but he takes their identity and consumes their very SOUL. The Samoan Soultaker!!

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  145. That particular person probably thought it was funny to do it.


    Laying the odds is a common way to gamble when the outcome is close to a lock as possible. Really rich people would lay like 1m for 100k.


    This bet didn't really make sense, because the earning is a mere $6.

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  146. *shakes shakes shakes*

    *shakes shakes shakes*

    *shakes his booteh, shakes his booteh*

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  147. ....yeah, like that.

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  148. He could beat Jericho's ass and get Prince IKEA's wank-rag back.

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  149. DONT FORGET TO CLAP NEGRO HAVE FUN OUT THERE GODDAMMIT

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  150. *punches Bonzai and kills him*

    0_o

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  151. I always thought the official explanation for WCW using smaller rings was because of War Games and World War 3, and needing to fit multiple rings into a big area.


    Don't wrestlers talk about how the rings were built differently too? I remember Nash and Foley doing interviews talking about how the WWF rings destroyed their knees. And I'm pretty sure someone told a story on here about Pez Whatley being scared of tightening WCW's ring ropes too hard.

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  152. I think it was part of a joke or a bet between friends.


    It's not the risk that's the problem, but the pay out is so small, the risk doesn't even make sense. A truly rich guy would have done like 1M for 100K.

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  153. ThebrazilianpsychoMay 15, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    WHERE'S MY ITALIAN HOOKER, SHELTON!

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  154. congratulation on your new GFW job

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  155. I'm having my way with her. Wait your turn, bitch

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  156. There was some story back in 2001 of someone putting something like 10k
    on Spurs to beat Man United at half time when they were 3-0 up. He would
    have won a few hundred on top. We rallied, won 5-3. That was a bad one.

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  157. ThebrazilianpsychoMay 15, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    I'M VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHON, YOU'RE FIRED!
    FIIIIREEEDDDD!

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  158. *tickle*

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  159. I never liked how WCW rings sounded on impact. Even the ref counts always bothered me. But i was always a WWF fan.

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  160. She's also reportedly "difficult to deal with" backstage

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  161. I'm of a mind to make some mookie

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  162. Didn't I end you?

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  163. YOU CANT KILL ME IM VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHON DAMMIT! NOW CLAP FOR ME PAL!

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  164. *YOU* CLAP FOR *ME*, NTSC!

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  165. FUCK YOU MILES DAVIS

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  166. If peeing your pants is cool, then I'm Miles Davis

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  167. ThebrazilianpsychoMay 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    Vince decides to visit NXT to see how HHH is doing. He's in shock after being in there for a couple of hours.


    Vince: Hunter, what the hell are you doing in this place.
    HHH: Excuse me?
    Vince: Why is that negro not dancing, why is that woman not acting like a alpha bitch. Why everyone is talking about wrestling in here, we are an entertainment company.
    HHH: But...
    Vince: I'm taking over, we must keep thing the way they are. Hey you shelton?
    Angelo: My name is Angelo Da...
    Vince: Whatever Shelton, start dancing, please?


    *sigh, starts dancing.

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  168. He's Mexican-American, dude...

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  169. Big Brother Booty
    Shakeshakeshakeshakeshakeshake WHOO!

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  170. That would have to be a less successful brother of Samoa Joe.

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  171. That doesn't stop it from being 100x better than Impact right?

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  172. Babosaurus

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  173. I know "Marv" is the linchpin, but will we ever have Cresto the Clown?

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  174. Not necessarily the linchpin, Mr. Crestlemania didn't have Marv in it


    But I'm not really a Simpsons guy...it's absurd I have a list of like 4 I have to get through now after yesterday's thread haha

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  175. Pop never should have taken Duncan out of goal.

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  176. Art Macklin, Man Without FearMay 15, 2015 at 2:47 PM

    Best scene in Crank is Chelios trying to keep his adrenaline up by headbanging to Achy Breakt Heart

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  177. Weirdest scene is in the hospital with bearded Dennis Reynolds

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  178. Wife's out. Home alone watching Hercules like a boss.

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  179. Don't tell my heart

    My achy break-T heart

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  180. That's an odd thing to fap to, but whatever

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  181. I actually watched TNA last week and enjoyed the Storm/Magnus storyline, the Dollhouse storyline was good, the EC3 stuff is really good and thats all I remember but honestly thats way more than I enjoy from RAW or Smackdown right now. That being said I watched an hour of LU and loved every segment to where as with the TNA stuff I was like "this isn't so bad".

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  182. ThebrazilianpsychoMay 15, 2015 at 2:48 PM

    Crank 2 is even better.

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  183. Art Macklin, Man Without FearMay 15, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    Took me years to realize that was him. Weird seeing the Sunny Crew in ANYTHING besides Sunny.

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  184. Homer: Don't you know the story of Hercules and the lion?
    Bart: Is it a Bible story?
    Homer:
    Yeah, probably. Anyway, once upon a time, there was a big mean lion who
    got a thorn in his paw. All the village people tried to pull it out,
    but nobody was strong enough! So they got Hercules, and Hercules used
    his mighty strength, and...bingo! Anyway, the moral is, the lion was so
    happy, he gave Hercules this big...thing...of riches.
    Bart: How did a lion get rich?
    Homer: It was the olden days!

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  185. Kaitlin Olsen in late-stage Drew Carey was surreal.

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  186. Art Macklin, Man Without FearMay 15, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    Now I wanna watch John Wick. God that movie ruled.

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  187. ThebrazilianpsychoMay 15, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Keanu was actually acting in that movie.

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  188. At least RoH has never hired Vince Russo.

    Multiple times.

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  189. Perhaps a Karate Kid tribute... "You're the Crest, Around".

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  190. Mine went to bed early last night. I watched a shitty French horror film from the early 80s on Amazon Prime. I love bad European horror movies.

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  191. Hello, my name is Mr. Burns. I believe you have a letter for me.

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  192. I heard she's the baddest bitch in the building.

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  193. Given the number of decisions the WWE has made in the last 15 years that this blog has crapped on and then later found out that there was a good reason for the decision, I suspect this might fall into that category as well. :)

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