Monday, June 22, 2015

BoD Daily Update

WWE.com RAW Preview

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2015-06-22/five-point-preview-27526140



Jack Swagger Update

Swagger, who has been used sparingly over the past several months, is being reported as having his morale get worse and considering leaving the WWE when his contract expires.

http://wrestlechat.net/report-another-former-world-heavyweight-champion-considering-wwe-departure/



WWE Wrestler Forms New Tag Team in NXT

Zack Ryder, who has been teaming with Mojo Rawley at NXT live events, will continue to team with Rawley going forward as they will be known as the Hype Bros.

http://wrestlechat.net/update-on-new-nxt-tag-team-more-on-wwes-video-game-youtube-channel/



WWE.com Power Rankings

http://www.wwe.com/inside/power-rankings/power-rankings-june-19-2015



Two Wrestlers Depart TNA

Gunner and Sam Shaw have apparently left the company per their Twitter Accounts

http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-top-stories/100-tna/43137-gunner-departs-tna

http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/0621/596467/another-tna-wrestler-apparently-finished-with-the-company/

562 comments:

  1. Cena was the only one, anyone else would have been a foregone conclusion match.


    Last year they didn't really have a ton of credible guys to main event their second biggest event of the year.



    Now...at least they are sort of getting there. Rollins for sure...Ambrose getting close, and Reigns is doing better.

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  2. The Hogan/Heenan rivalry is looked back on at the level it is simply because of how well Heenan did in getting his long-time hatred of Hogan over on commentary. It was just so apparent every time he even mentioned Hogan. And it was always great how he carried it over to WCW and when Hogan turned heel, Heenan played the I-told-you-so card repeatedly.

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  3. I love how every time WWE does something awesome like the Cena/Brock match at Summerslam, they immediately shoot themselves in the foot. Like running the re-match a month later and having Cena win via DQ.

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  4. Lesnar/Bryan done like that woulda been a helluvadeal. And, in theory, the WrestleMania rematch woulda been a tremendous payoff.

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  5. Hogan's greatest opponent is a tough debate because Hogan beat everyone, so pretty much every feud was one-sided. Savage makes sense. I think Flair was also a very good one, he was tough on Hogan in 91 when they first met on house shows and on TV, and he had a quality feud with him in WCW in 94. And he finally did get a few wins from him finally when WCW started going downhill.

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  6. If Punk was around, why not have Punk go over at Summerslam and do the rubber match at Royal Rumble?

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  7. I appreciate Heenan solely for his attempts at getting Tito Santana over with the jokes about Mrs. Santana and other things.

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  8. Not gonna lie - if they did a series where Brain was the smart manipulative manager and Hogan was the crazy out of control bulldozer with a heart of gold I would watch that.

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  9. How about mentioning that Tito's sister, Arriba McIntyre, sang the national anthem at WM8.

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  10. They wouldn't have even considered it. Right or wrong, fair or not, Punk/Lesnar was seen by the front office as a disappointment that failed to attract an audience.

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  11. Cena was the best option and that SummerSlam match alone restored Brock's aura. Lesnar/Bryan would have been great and Lesnar would have stayed a true heel a bit longer, but we would have still been clamoring for Bryan to be the one to defeat Lesnar at Mania and we still would have turned on Roman Reigns at the Rumble.

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  12. Which is a shame, because it was a great match, probably either one's best work.

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  13. He's a big power guy. and former world champion. Nobody would "buy him" against the top guys in the Triple A league? Also isn't that half the job of Owens, Balor Joe and ect to make you buy it?

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  14. Right - I have no argument with pushing him; he's got the goods, and wrestling has a history of guys getting pushed to the top immediately.



    My question was more or less dealing with morale - even back then if a guy didn't feel like he was getting a fair shake, he could move on to other promotions for comparable pay. Now? Different game.

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  15. there was. When Coulter did the talking and he stood their like a monster waiting for the signal to kill..he and Cesaro were getting over.

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  16. Nobody remembers him being world champion and no, nobody's gonna buy Raw Jobber Jack Swagger against the Demon Balor, Samoa Joe, etc.

    Also, yes, it is, but do you think it's at all good business for a guy who's ceiling at this point is wrestling Brad Maddox at house shows and jobbing to Dolph Ziggler on Raw to be having long and competitive matches with the guys you're theoretically building the company around?

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  17. Well, yeah, there's no doubt that a lack of options is hurting the business.

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  18. I think they've made a mistake going "Kurt Angle, Jr." with Swagger for so long. They really should have repackaged him and given him different attire than the singlet.

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  19. yes because it's NXT. Kidd was that guy before they rebuilt him in NXT. Ryder might be the guy they start doing that with now. They have brought in Rhyno to work with these guys and used Alex Shelly to put over Owens so they have a history of doing exactly what I'm talking about.

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  20. New Day attack Cesaro after another hilarious promo, cue Swagger's badass music, Real Americans reunion.

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  21. Stranger In The AlpsJune 22, 2015 at 7:29 AM

    How about beating Bo Dallas on Superstars?


    Cuz it just happened.

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  22. They were getting over and should have been together for much longer, but I think the Real Americans ship has sailed.

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  23. Excuse me I have to go buy some WWE stock because business is about to pick up!

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  24. Stranger In The AlpsJune 22, 2015 at 7:30 AM

    Real American s vs. a gang of black guys.


    That will only get over in Mid-South.

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  25. Swagger's been around since 09. It's been a good run, time to leave for awhile.

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  26. The WWE's real target audience would love such a feud. Whatamaneuver, etc.

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  27. He should have won MITB.

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  28. It may have; right now it's just keeping Cesaro busy.

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  29. Maybe a year ago after the Andre battle royal. This year, not so much.

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  30. They could do that by having him in well written feuds with new people?

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  31. Way better choice than Sheamus.

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  32. How great would it be if they just kept pushing Owens and pushed him straight to the top. If you love him or not just how refreshing would it be to have "new talented guy who works hard and is really getting over" continue to get pushed and pushed until it's clear the push is no longer working. Instead of some push...cut him off at the knees...wallow in the mid card dust him off when you are paper thin on the top of the card and have him go through a few mid carders and then main event a ppv or two.

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  33. Lol. Ah. To dream the impossible dream.

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  34. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 22, 2015 at 7:36 AM

    So the shithead in South Carolina turned to white pride when a chick he liked started dating a black dude? This story... Geez...

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  35. You mean like what they did with Roman Reigns that everybody hated?

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  36. Too early to tell on that. Sheamus feels reinvigorated since the heel turn. The MitB is essentially a "futures bet" what doesn't make sense now could easily make sense in six months. Orton was a directionless mess in a best of a thousand series before he won the case and cashed in on Bryan.

    Depending on how they play it this could be a hot Survivor Series angle.

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  37. Source? In his manifesto, he was radicalized by conservative websites after the Trayvon Martin case.

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  38. I like that Heenan hated Hogan no matter what. Even when Hogan joined the nWo he still hated him and became a face by default instead of just siding with Hogan because he was a bad guy.

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  39. Important to remember the Ordonoff feud. He was not a main eventer at all when he turned, but by aligning with Heenan, they were suddenly selling out every arena (and stadium) in North America for about six months straight.

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  40. Monsoon: "I can't believe that Tito hasn't come out here to help his partner."

    Brain: "He can't come out here, immigration is sitting in the front row!"

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  41. https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/18/cousin-of-charleston-suspect-says-black-man-stole-roofs-love-interest/

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  42. Stranger In The AlpsJune 22, 2015 at 7:42 AM

    So I wake up to Stranger's Dangers 3.5 games out of first in the division in the BoD fantasy league. Bring on the next group of jabronies!

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  43. Passed a WWE semi on the way in as it headed to set up for RAW tonight. The people on the truck was very strange. AJ was still on one side with R-Truth and some other mid carders. The other side had Brock, Rock, a couple people I'm forgetting and Sgt. Slaughter...

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  44. So the countdown is on for Swagger vs Angle TNA Title Match live on ESPN Ocho?

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  45. I'm guessing they move to periscope

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  46. They did an awful job at pushing Reigns. From horribly scripted promos to a never-ending feud with Big Show, which he still has not recovered from fully.

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  47. Well this is when you need to utilize Parallaxes plan of threatening to ban any opponents that don't bench all their players.

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  48. You need Cesaro to have a character or persona for that to happen.

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  49. He makes for a good tag wrestler. Hell, let him pair with Cesaro again

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  50. Stranger In The AlpsJune 22, 2015 at 7:44 AM

    This next guy has a few guys on the DL that he hasn't removed from the starting lineup. I love absentee owners.

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  51. Also pushing him like the injury hiatus never happened. He came back and they booked him as if he had spend those months getting prepped for the main event of mania...simply because they gave him an award.

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  52. Right. I read that as "just push and push a new guy to the top whether people like him or not until it clearly isn't working."

    I fault WWE's execution with Roman just not their effort.

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  53. "The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong."


    Dylan Roof's own words.

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  54. In other news, TNA had a wrestler named Sam Shaw.

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  55. If Shamus to work they have to do something different with him. He can't just be Sheamus as a heel. people seem to be really burned out on the guy. He needs to start acting different from everyone else in the company. I don't know what they should do but just book him totally different from everyone else out there or it won't work it will just be Sheamus again and right or wrong people aren't into that.

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  56. Also I imagine TNAMecca now allows no mention of Sam Shaw

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  57. They are going to have shit or get off the pot with Cesaro real soon. He was hot off that tag team with Kidd and Kidd's injury was the perfect excuse to launch him as a singles guy again.

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  58. Let's stay within the realm of reality.

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  59. We're takin' all your women!!!

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  60. Like how he couldn't even wait 5 seconds to start burying Hogan when he came out BATB '96 everyone else assumed he was there to help but Hennan was still suspicious and right).

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  61. "You mind if we dance with your dates?"

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  62. They will wait till the love and momentum are gone and then when desperate will push him and do their usual WWE thing instead of pushing when the iron is hot and making a new star

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  63. Could be the justification he used because saying you're just pissed off that some girl chose another guy over you looks weak. I think the dude had a whole bunch of straws. Hard to say which one broke him. Just a crazy, racist POS. Who's dad gave him a gun for his birthday a few months ago. Thanks, Dad!

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  64. You know what would have been cool? If Roman body-slammed Big Show as the main event of a RAW. It would have been a memorable moment that didn't get lost in a PPV shuffle and would be repeated on dozens of tribute shows and DVD compilations.

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  65. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 22, 2015 at 7:52 AM

    That P.S. was so good that I'm even willing to accept the presence of a Bella.

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  66. When was Alex Shelley in NXT?

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  67. I bet thousands of people read that website (never heard of it, personally). Only one psychopath took what he found there as a reason to commit mass murder. I wouldn't blame the website.


    That's like saying "Catcher in the Rye" radicalized the guy who shot John Lennon.

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  68. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 22, 2015 at 7:54 AM

    That's combined with family and friends all claiming they were worried about how angry he had become and his erratic actions over the last few months. That gun gift sounds like it was a GREAT idea for an unhinged little ass clown.

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  69. Roof on interracial dating:

    "I have noticed a great disdain for race mixing White women within the White nationalists community, bordering on insanity it. These women are victims, and they can be saved. Stop."

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  70. I never understand the Big Show feuds. They worked in getting HHH over in what....1999? 2000? Whenever that was. And Show hasn't elevated a single person since. Feuding with Big Show NEVER amounts to anything. Why they pay the guy a million bucks a year and keep renewing his contract, I'll never know.

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  71. Whoa, whoa...
    Are you saying that Savage's friendship with Hogan and the Megapowers deal was (kayfabe) Savage using Hogan to get to the title? Was that ever stated on TV, or are you retconning the story to make the Macho Man into a diabolical genius?

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  72. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 22, 2015 at 7:56 AM

    Blah blah blah largest athlete blah blah frying pan hands blah blah blah.

    Vince likes giants.

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  73. "What have I been saying all these years...what have I been saying all these years..."

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  74. Chris Rock's bit on interracial dating is always great

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  75. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 22, 2015 at 7:58 AM

    He's Malibu Stacy with a new hat.

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  76. Give him a Jericho deal and be done with it. House Show attraction who comes in and squashes a jobber. Also, how lame is that effing finisher. His finisher is that he punches you. I mean. at least Reigns gets some legit height with the Superman Punch, plus...and this is key...it's not his finisher.

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  77. It's an incredibly toxic site that has a community full of racists.

    Choice quote from that site on the shooting: "It is unclear what caused Roof to go on the shooting spree"

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  78. Zack Ryder will somehow find a way to become the most over guy in NXT, get called up to the main roster, and get demolished by Kane in his very first match back.

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  79. Yes. And he was a great example of TNA's downfall.

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  80. Doesn't "biggest", by definition mean there can only be one person in that role?

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  81. It radicalized a bunch of PHONIES, is what it did.

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  82. At least Ronnie Garvin jumped around and threw a markedly different punch. Show just throws a straight right.

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  83. Because Punk beating Lesnar in Brock's first match after ending the Streak would have made no sense? The idea was to build Brock up as an indestructible machine beginning with his conquering of the Streak, and then play it out all the way to Wrestlemania XXXI where someone finally brings him down at the same event that he beat Taker at a year before.

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  84. Dude legit looked like.....I dunno, someone that may have been involved with former NJ Governor McGreevy.

    That's getting you back for making me google something last week.

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  85. I saw the same truck the night after mania and enjoyed that Sarge somehow made the truck.

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  86. I can't get the "you gonna eat that coooooooornbread?" scene from Life out of my head.

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  87. Toxic filth? Absolutely. I don't disagree that there are horrid websites out there. But there's a huge difference between spewing filth from behind your keyboard and committing mass murder.


    There are millions of people who are racist. But few people are sick and twisted enough to use their racism as a justification to commit mass murder on innocents.


    Hell, to bring it back to wrestling there were folks on TNAMecca who were threatening physical harm on Dave Meltzer and/or his property because of his "lies" about TNA. Makes them looks like idiots, but it's not like they actually went after Meltzer with a bat or a gun.

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  88. Have a Taylor Dayne song stuck in my head. Talk about a terrible start to the week.

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  89. Swagger, who has been used sparingly over the past several months, is
    being reported as having his morale get worse and considering leaving
    the WWE when his contract expires.

    WWE sounds like the place where I work. It's pretty good money but people just walk around looking defeated. Every year there is at least one person that up and quits without already having another job first. Swaggs I feel your pain.

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  90. Cena vs Orton,one more timeJune 22, 2015 at 8:05 AM

    Did they borrow WWE's random name generator for a day?

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  91. It's amazing that the guy who was legit over going into Summerslam has to be rebuilt.

    I mean, has there been anyone else who was screwed up this badly, with such an incredible amount of circumstances?

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  92. They terk urr jerbs, urr guns, now urr wymin.

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  93. Brock in 02. Eddie in 03. Cena in 04. He demanded to put over Punk in 06 and got overruled. He got Bryan over the hump in his initial push in 11. Did everything he could to establish Sheamus and Del Rio as faces.

    If anything your point is the opposite if correct in that he has the Jericho problem where people have been put over him too many times and it's meaningless.

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  94. There was also that whole "not Daniel Bryan" timing issue that did him in. I dare say that was the biggest part of it.

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  95. Right, completely forgot about him ending the streak. In some cases, I think WWE forgot, too.

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  96. With every beat of my heart...

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  97. He wasn't some poor mentally ill kid who just needed some help. He was a hardcore racist terrorist.

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  98. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM

    I think you're overlooking the FRYING PAN HANDS.

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  99. It's tough to leave the money, though. Ziggler will have the same problem.

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  100. Yes, he is (not was) a hardcore racist terrorist, which means he's mentally sick. You have to be mentally ill to act that way against your fellow human beings.

    I didn't use the word "poor" or "kid" to describe him.

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  101. Right now Taylor wants me to tell it to he heart.

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  102. It's a nice albeit made up spin on things.

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  103. I remain curious as to just how much guys like Ziggler are making these days. The money really might not be worth it for someone like him to stick around.

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  104. Swagger makes next to nothing though according to that one site. It's like 75K a year and he has to pay his own way. Not sure if that's true, but if it is, then I'm shocked he lasted as long as he has.

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  105. Other than Bryan, all those examples are 9 or 10 years ago. Show is a channel changer for me. I just find him brutally boring and don't see his value.

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  106. Homeowner's insurance increase of 21%... for no changes in coverage.

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  107. Swagger was never going to be a top guy. In most areas he is simply not at the required level. Same as Ziggler in many ways, except not as over.

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  108. That's his downside. I'm sure he gets more in PPV bonuses and whatever merch he actually sells. I'm sure even a midcard guy like him makes far more.

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  109. Everyone I talk to after they quit say they are glad they did it. Even some ex-WWE guys look happier like Morrison and Punk

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  110. Hype Bros.


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHA.

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  111. I think the downside minimum is closer to $100,000 at this point.

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  112. Because fuck you.


    - your ins co.

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  113. It's funny how it's only white dudes who get the mentally ill label.

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  114. You live in NY right? That doesn't surprise me.

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  115. Never got Ryder. Just flat out lame, not even ironically amusing.

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  116. There was an increase across the board for NY state... but not 21%.

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  117. Punk is a guy who never has to worn another day in his life. Johnny Mundo went on to work for a good promotion.

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  118. I've seen them in person. I mean they're pretty big...

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  119. I gave them a quick call. They are looking into the situation.

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  120. Lower card on NXT may be his ideal level.

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  121. From what I hear, people don't miss the money as much as they thought they would. Obviously, it's different if you can't find another job.

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  122. I didn't even realize he was still on the roster.

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  123. He's a doof who can't get it done in the ring.


    However, he really needs to be commended for using social media to make himself relevant.

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  124. He did his best to try to make Sheamus, Del Rio and Roman on PPV.

    He's the only veteran besides Jericho that seems to want to make new stars.

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  125. Huh? I would described radicalized people of any background (Muslim terrorist, gang member, etc.) to be mentally ill to some degree. That's certainly not white dudes.

    There has to be something wrong with your mental wiring if a life of violence against innocents appeals to you.

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  126. This is essentially what I'm picturing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBsJ9VSQvbE

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  127. I think I liked him just because of how over he was. Whether it's my thing or not, seeing guys get huge face pops is always fun. But as much as I didn't get it or think he had a long shelf life because of his limited skills, it still baffles me that they didn't squeeze as much merchandising as possible out of that goof while he was crazy over.

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  128. He's a doofus to be sure, but he got over with a lot of fans. He did what a wrestler is supposed to do and was Friend Zone Cuckolded on TV.

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  129. There's a whole raft of guys who've been with WWE for over five years and have almost no value. Did Laurinaitis sign anyone worthwhile?

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  130. "WWE sounds like the place where I work. It's pretty good money but people just walk around looking defeated. Every year there is at least one person that up and quits without already having another job first."


    I think we may work in the same place.

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  131. I'm actually hoping for a beneficial solution. I have no claims filed, there's been no change in coverage, and my assessment remains the same. I think I have a solid gripe for a 21% increase.

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  132. Oh, he'll lay down for people, I'm not saying he's unwilling to try and elevate people, but I frankly don't even remember the Big Show feud with Brock or Eddie. But I remember loving the hell out of both of the characters. So I feel like my point still stands. The last good bit of business was with a red hot Mark Henry and DBry in the mix and Show was my least favorite part of that feud. I feel like DBry vs. Henry could have made more money as a singles feud.

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  133. Probably do. It's called Corporate America.

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  134. I'm not a huge fan, but first heard of him on Cabana's podcast when I was just getting back into wwe. I found him endearing as a wrestling nerd who made it to the big leagues.

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  135. Yep. Still picturing that clip.


    Seriously, good luck though. Might be a good time to shop around.

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  136. Even if its not a lot, its still probably his best bet considering the alternative of the indies or a "regular job." You gotta think there are a lot of others in WWE who are sticking around for the same reason despite not being used or being unhappy. All speculation on my part, of course.

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  137. I'm talking about society at large. Hand waving shit like this away with "mentally ill" implies a sort of lack of responsibility.


    When a black guy does it, they're a thug, a middle eastern dude, a terrorist.

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  138. Cena vs Orton,one more timeJune 22, 2015 at 8:19 AM

    And then got his soul and enthusiasm crushed by the corporate machine.
    That's life, I guess.

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  139. 16 days on the loose and these assholes are still within 20 miles of the prison.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/22/us/new-york-prison-break/index.html

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  140. If there's anyone the WWE should just cut loose it's Jack Swagger. He was given every opportunity to get over and he failed each time. He was placed in tag teams that were vehicles to get him over (Dolph Ziggler and the Real Americans with Cesaro) and each time it was his partner who got over. Unlike some others who probably got their feet cut from underneath them, Swagger was given opportunity after opportunity. At a certain point you just have to realize he doesn't have "IT." Jack Swagger is a good worker but he just doesn't have "IT."

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  141. I feel the same about Dolph Ziggler.

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  142. DNA evidence of David Sweat....if it wasn't monday I could probably come up with a witty remark there

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  143. Would you like to replace it with the Go-Go's?

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  144. I actually like the team of Ryder & Rawley.

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  145. There's a right and wrong way to....escape from prison

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  146. You'd think, but I look at it like Chyna and Jericho were both IC champ simultaneously.

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  147. Wasn't it Bryan that said, when he was fired in 2010, that he'd make more money on the indies that summer than he would've in WWE? I think there are guys who are close to whatever that downside guarantee is that probably could clear more on the indies/internationally than they do in WWE just because they have the name recognition now (not that Ziggler is one of those guys, I'd imagine he has to be decently above the minimum at this point) but it would be waaay more of a hassle, having to set up your own bookings/merchandise/travel/etc.

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  148. He did it the right way with the guard. He was all like "my body all over your body".

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  149. I think Rachel Dolezal is on to something. I think, starting today, I will bleach my skin and live the life of a white man.

    Now which way to the freakin' bowls of mayo?!

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  150. Did he also tell her "I want to go outside, in the rain"?

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  151. Say what you will, Savage was 100%, completely and totally right about Hogan in his promos leading up to WM5. Hogan was hot-dogging and grandstanding.

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  152. Just filling in the blanks that the Man has been holding back from us all this time.

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  153. That is a hurtful stereotype! Not all white men like mayonnaise! It's disgusting!

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  154. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 22, 2015 at 8:25 AM

    I went to high school in Franklin County!

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  155. I think it might just be time to start phasing out the Punk generation (06-09) guys. Dolph, Swagger, Cody, Kofi, etc.

    In a few years get rid of the Sheamus generation (10-13).

    Part of why everything feels so stale is that everyone hangs around forever now.

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  156. Dolph manages to get over despite his shortcomings and weaknesses. Fans appreciate his hard work. If he could find a character that works and keep his mouth shut he might see himself in a better position. I don't see anything in Swagger that would make him anything more than a jobber.

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  157. We call that the Sammy Sosa in America!

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  158. Bryan was on the very bottom rung at that point. I would like to think Ziggler and Swagger are higher on the food chain than that. If not, then it's definitely time to go.

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  159. Ask Charlamagne

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  160. I'm down the leaked Sony emails rabbit hole. This shit is fascinating.

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  161. I feel like Ryder and Mojo should be an "Express" of some sort. They don't feel like a "Bros" team. Ryder in particular seems like the hot tag guy in an 80s tag team.

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  162. You know Keith Sweat can sing because no man named Keith could give women the thigh sweats any other way.

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  163. In the past, you could have dudes bounce around different territories so when and if they came back, it was fresh.

    What I don't get is that the roster is so huge but it's the same guys performing on RAW, Smackdown and PPV. There's no reason why a guy should wrestle both RAW and Smackdown. Sure, he can be around in segments but wrestling so much leads to overexposure and injuries.

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  164. Hype Express is a pretty good team name.

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  165. "Hey Cody, welcome back. You're fired."

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  166. He's alright and all, but what's he supposed to be? I get it that he's a decent wrestler and all, but what's his gimmick exactly? In a character-defined age, I just don't understand the guy aside from someone with a bad bleach job, crappy finisher and good worker.

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  167. Ah, I see. Well, I guess it doesn't help that most of this middle-class white boys who shoot up people are all hopped up on cocktails of mental pills, which fuels that perception.

    It gives different people many convenient excuses to choose from: "It was the gun!" "It was the pills!" "It was the websites!" "It was the girl who rejected him!" etc.

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  168. Hype Express is my new favorite tag team name.

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  169. Are you talking about Swagger or Ziggler?

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  170. Since it's a wrestling blog, you should've considered "I went to HS right here ....(dramatic pause) in FRANKLIN COUNTY!

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  171. They should turn into beach muscleheads as their characters and become the Bench Press Express!

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  172. Depends. Cody's never been much above midcard, is young, and - I think - still an excellent prospect.

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  173. Ziggler. Swagger at least has attempted to get a gimmick of some sort over

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  174. Except that the Council of Conservative Citizens is a white nationalist-affiliated group that's actively racially and sexually discriminatory. You probably haven't heard of them because they're a fringe hate group with a slightly more respectable coat of paint.
    It's wrongheaded to not assign some blame the group. This is what they're actively trying to create.

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  175. Swagger is a stupid name, even for a wrestler.

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  176. Never Breed. Pls.

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  177. The question than is how long is too long to be a prospect? Cody's been around since 2007. That's a lot of big frickin time.

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  178. Extant1979 - Extreme SuperstarJune 22, 2015 at 8:31 AM

    I'm not in Franklin County right now. Haven't been for a few years. Wrestlers would lie.

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  179. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 22, 2015 at 8:31 AM

    He's been around for a long time, though, and with several character changes to boot.

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  180. The Hype Bros Express?

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  181. I'll have to check it out.... has it all pretty much been gone through, or are people still finding unknown nuggets of information?

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  182. He's still only 29. Aside from what's happened with Dusty, I'd keep him for at least another three or four years.

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  183. Was that his real name? B/C if not, and he arbitrarily chose it, then I question is sanity. And if it is his real name, did his agent ever consider telling him "you may want to pick a stage name"

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  184. Some of which have been excellent (not Stardust, admittedly).

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  185. You know, there is GREAT material for a satirical movie about people "self-identifying" as all different races/genders/orientations/whatever.

    Problem is the only guys I could see being able to do it and not going through a media shitstorm are the South Park guys.

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  186. It sounds like something they would've done in ECW

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  187. I think it's his mother's maiden name.

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  188. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 22, 2015 at 8:34 AM

    The "they make big money!" argument for Swagger and Ziggler is an interesting one. We know that PPV/Network revenue is still a sticky issue and neither guy is a big merchandise seller that we know of, so maybe they're not making much outside of their downside. In that instance, the decision to leave might be easier.

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  189. I actually get who Ziggler is, a cocky bastard who believes he's the best and fights to prove it, it's the way it is presented that I have a problem with. But Swagger, outside of his look and being a good (but not amazing) worker, there's nothing there.

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