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  1. Even though I hate the Angels, I marked out a little while ago when MLB Network used the track from Angels in the Outfield when the Angels take the field in the climactic game during the actual Angels lineup announcement tonight.

    I'm amazed I recognized that song even though I haven't seen that movie in ages

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  2. ThebrazilianpsychoJune 5, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Jason Statham, you sold out!

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  3. I heard that movie was supposed to be pretty good.

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  4. The Hardcore title was really fun before it devolved into comedy spots. Snow-Holly from St Valentine's Day Massacre is fascinating.

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  5. He's a bigger sellout being in those Expendable movies. They're made for the sole purpose of making money.

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  6. ThebrazilianpsychoJune 5, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    Damn, I really wanna play Def Jam Fight for Ny again.

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  7. Yeah. Doing something that challenges your range and stereotype is the opposite of selling out.

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  8. Bossman-Mideon


    I'm sure this will break three stars.

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  9. So Mideon's gimmick is that he carries an eyeball in formaldehyde with him. I can safely say that's the worst gimmick he's had at this point and that the title is safe until "Naked Mideon" shows up.

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  10. Timestamp on the Massacre?

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  11. Dennis Knight was far from the best worker but he did have a couple memorable characters in that Ministry deal.

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  12. It's pretty funny. Cole's trying to explain how Mideon is an exciting athlete and the crowd just breaks into a loud BORING chant. He couldn't have timed that worse if he tried.

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  13. So this sets up the Cell match at WM?

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  14. Think so. Bossman working his way through the Ministry.

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  15. Puss covered infected bunghole hair!

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  16. I'm at the point where the Ministry is waylaying Bossman while Taker watches from the aisle.

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  17. Cole is a couple years away from logging 20 as a talking head.

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  18. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJune 5, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    So which country is gonna get those NBA Champion Cleveland Cavalier T-Shirts now?


    I'm betting Kenya.

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  19. I'm there too.

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  20. Kenya's fairly developed. It's got Nairobi and shit. Probably Congo or one of those endless war natrions.

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  21. That's crazy. I can't think of a single iconic thing he's done yet. Well, not a positive one.

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  22. Damn slut canoe

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  23. You can either do a full Undertaker entrance or you can have Undertaker do a run in. You can't do both at the same time.

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  24. Damn, if D-Lo was this young today, he'd be able to work out some of that sloppiness in NXT. The sky would be the limit.

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  25. He handled King's heart attack like a champ.


    I personally loved "The Cole Mine."

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  26. I don't know. Less sleep=grouchy. Please ignore

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  27. It was also a full Undertaker distraction so the Ministry could jump Bossman. Ended up being three empty minutes.

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  28. That was less grouchy and more nonsensical. But, your point is made.

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  29. He's a weird chicken-egg dynamic with that. Is the sloppiness what makes him so exciting to watch?

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  30. I've heard he did great then, but I wasn't watching then, and I don't think I could handle watching it. I think I've just missed his highs.

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  31. People hate it, because we hate a lot of things as its going on. But Heel Cole is one of my favorite things to watch in hindsight on old PPVs. It's like he knew exactly what things make us want to punch him and accentuated them all. The Cole Mine was perfect.

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  32. Watching True Grit with John Wayne.

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  33. Besides the Droz thing (and the fact that his sloppy work made something like that inevitable), he just had a watchable quality. Decent to good on the mic, too.

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  34. I liked him well enough at the time.

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  35. D'Lo on one side, Owen on the other.


    I think Sam Beckett just leaped into Jeff Jarrett to prevent Owen Hart from dying at this PPV.

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  36. ThebrazilianpsychoJune 5, 2015 at 6:15 PM

    Def Jam FFNY, has a longer story campaign than COD. 7 hours in the first gameplay.

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  37. I guess I hate him because the things I dislike about him still happen. Maybe I'll soften on him with time, but his older work doesn't hold up for me.

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  38. ThebrazilianpsychoJune 5, 2015 at 6:15 PM

    Vinson.

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  39. I'm just amazed he worked himself down from 400 pounds.

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  40. I have to clean my oven tomorrow, my most hated of household tasks.

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  41. Bo Dallas Wyatt is something that needs to happen. It would rejujinate four lost causes in one shot.

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  42. Yeah, his transformation was pretty amazing.

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  43. Oh he's fucking terrible. But intentionally terrible was hilarious.

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  44. From everything I've heard/read, the Droz thing wasn't exactly D-Lo's fault. At least not a result of sloppy ring work.

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  45. ThebrazilianpsychoJune 5, 2015 at 6:17 PM

    Going to a marriage that I don't wanna go tomorrow.

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  46. I'll be filling the thread with Anchorman 2 quotes.

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  47. If Droz hadn't been wearing a t-shirt, it never would've happened (maybe), but it fell on D-Lo, and he took it hard on himself.

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  48. Is it weird for a WNBA team to have a traditional, scantily-clad-women dance squad? Like it's not the same mostly-male, probably-perv crowd as other sporting events.

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  49. I don't wanna drink horse piss!!!!!!

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  50. The Euro champ thing where he'd be announced as residing in random European cities was hilarious. I still laugh on rewatches.

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  51. It's a mostly lesbian probably perv crowd for WNBA.

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  52. What timeframe was Heel Cole?

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  53. He did take it hard, but I remember him saying he replayed it a million times in his head and couldn't say what he did wrong. And I've heard others say it was just a weird fluke.

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  54. Wait, they already burned through PMS with D'Lo, Mark Henry's Chyna crush AND Mark feeling up the transvestite?


    99 moved fast.

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  55. I wouldn't say it's mostly lesbian. I've been to a few games here in Seattle and it's more like families.

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  56. Would be hilarious if they had an all male dance/cheerleader team for the games.

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  57. ThebrazilianpsychoJune 5, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    2010-2011.

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  58. 2010-12. Right around the Miz Push, which Cole would scream in support of whenever he could.


    Also Cole pointing to the sign in the Royal Rumble 12 is my favorite sight gag ever.

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  59. Did you lose a bet?

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  60. Some of that ran through late '98. I recall seeing some of it in those Attitude Era Raws.

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  61. Nah, I just like watching basketball. If the Sonics were in town I probably wouldn't go to Storm games, but they're affordable and in-person the games are much better than on TV.

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  62. No, he clearly enjoys women's basketball. Ry not to be so judgmental.

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  63. According to Wikipedia, Droz slipped off his shoulders and D-Lo lost his grip because of the t-shirt. It was the flukiest of flukes, but it shook D-Lo.

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  64. I remember seeing the NXT match CM Punk called along with Cole, now that I think about it.

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  65. Anchorman 2 was like a hangover after the amazing night that was Anchorman 1.

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  66. I had this idea for Alberto Del Rio to win the Intercontinental title and then go on a "world tour" while incorporating some of that D-Lo thing where he's claiming one country or another from week to week.

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  67. No one likes women's basketball. And we're clearly heading towards a fake feud as arch nemeses

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  68. Why don't they do random merch for PPVs anymore? I might want a Payback beer koozie or an Elimination Chamber fridge magnet.

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  69. Favorite movie when I was 12

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  70. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJune 5, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    Evening sir.

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  71. Starring: Ken Shamrock's Sister


    Fantastic.

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  72. ThebrazilianpsychoJune 5, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    *handshake*

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  73. It's cool, I know I'm in the minority as far as male sports fans by watching WNBA. I just don't have as much ... whatever it is that makes so many guys either not care about or outright hate women's sports. It might have been because when I was little, my first exposure to basketball was going to my female cousin's high school games.

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  74. I never feud with tacos.


    Cause, you know.



    I eat them.

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  75. I think that gimmick would work wonders for any midcard heel who was funny enough to cut promos supporting it. Especially if he got a Honky Tonk Man run with the belt. Jericho would've slayed it during one of his gazillion reigns.

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  76. North Sudan, or whatever that made-up country that dude bought his daughter was called.

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  77. Space Jam gaffe that's always bugged me: nobody in post bothered to pick up on the fact that it switches from the old school Knicks court to the the late 90s Knicks court in the same scene.

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  78. "You used to be Mel Clark!"

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  79. Shamrock is easily my favorite Val feud. That recap video was a work of art.

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  80. Who Ken Shamrock promptly started dating IRL.

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  81. That is correct!

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  82. Not the fact the Shawn Bradley and mugsy bogues are 2 of the 5 best basketball players?

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  83. Shamrock's sister is, um, not really attractive. She looks like an unfortunate collection of recessive traits.

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  84. Heidenreich dry humped him. I found it positively hilarious.

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  85. For a little bit in high school, the first thing we'd talk about on Tuesday morning was what dumb thing Val Venis said on RAW.

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  86. So I've been watching my way through the 96 Nitros (and damn am I going to be sad when I run out of those) and I think I've identified the problem with Glacier. When you get right down to it he's a white guy with a southern accent doing cheesy kung fu in a Mortal Kombat cosplay outfit. No amount of thousand dollar vignettes were going to be worth a damn once people saw this guy in the ring.

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  87. While Edge married and cheated on Val's sister. Life imitates art sometimes.

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  88. I liked in his shoot that Bischoff gave him the gimmick without even realizing he had a martial arts background.

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  89. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJune 5, 2015 at 6:32 PM

    *handshake*

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  90. Heidenreich was quintessential mid-2000s WWE.

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  91. That part of the video recap where Shamrock was just whipping Venis back and forth into two walls was fantastic. I'm still loling about it.

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  92. Him, Stinsky, Boogeyman...Big lumbering guys that had zero chance of connecting with anybody outside of Vince's office.

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  93. He could work and incorporated martial arts into his style better than anyone I've ever seen, but that gimmick was DOA. It just stunk of the cartoony WWF style. I thought the entrance was cool, and I loved the three different Cryonic kicks he used as a finisher, but "Glacier" was a fish out of water except for the Mortis/Wrath feuds.

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  94. "Larry's not white, Larry is 'clear.'"

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  95. I hated Bischoff calling Glacier matches. He was such a dork, with the "back leg round kick" crap.

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  96. In hindsight the Mortal Kombat stuff was fun. Needed more of it.

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  97. Booker T deserved his Hall of Fame induction for that Boogeyman feud. That's what you call taking one for the team.

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  98. I was obsessed with collecting those collector's edition folding chairs. Never did get one.

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  99. Yeah, he just didn't fit into any other feuds. He was so cartoony it wouldn't have made sense to put him with the NWO.

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  100. Bischoff loved karate like Vince loved hillbillies.

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  101. If Mortis and Wrath had been there immediately, it'd have gone over better, but for the first few months, he went from mystical ninja to Georgia state trooper's son in a ninja costume.

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  102. He was just not a very good announcer. Just like Vince.

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  103. I hate it when you take a nap and it just makes you more tired

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  104. This match is not captivating me.

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  105. She's still banging dudes in the bizness.

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  106. Val's offense was well-executed, but just 10 years behind its time.

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  107. Jonathan MeisnerJune 5, 2015 at 6:46 PM

    It would probably get over great if Chikara had been around back then.

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  108. Billy Gunn's kind of making me laugh as ref here.

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  109. "Slap me."

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  110. SHAMROCK TALKS TOO MUCH!

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  111. His whole character was behind its time. He was one of the last "(Occupation X) by day, pro wrestler by night" characters.

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  112. The ever-increasing bias into the fast count was pretty funny

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  113. I liked the random unsolicited advice too.

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  114. Pound for pound, Muggsy was a great player.

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  115. Just patronizing the shit out of Shamrock. Ken should've gotten to kick the crap out of him after the match.

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  116. I know I've been harping on this a lot lately, but man I can't believe how bad they fucked up Billy Gunn immediately after this.

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  117. Jonathan MeisnerJune 5, 2015 at 6:50 PM

    Got name dropped by Tribe Called Quest too.

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  118. RUSSOOOOOOOO! Fucked up the greatest Hardcore champion of all time, too.

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  119. It's odd as he kinda came out of nowhere. He wasn't some well-regarded Indy guy or anything as I had never even heard of him before he came to WWE. And it was an era where most smarks knew EVERYTHING happening in wrestling.

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  120. Bossman calling Rock the Great One works for me, for some reason.

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  121. Jonathan MeisnerJune 5, 2015 at 6:51 PM

    The Hardcore and IC title matches switching participants at XV still baffles me to this day. Even at the time, I was like "wtf, why?"

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  122. I'm not sure how far he could have gone. He just wasn't good enough in the ring to be a marquee guy.

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  123. Thaddeus MountainJune 5, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    Height of Muggsy Bogues, complexion of a hockey puck!

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  124. I'm this close to taking an axe handle to that face of yours.

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  125. I think he could have had the role than that Dolph has now or Jericho had in 2000. Guy below the top guys, but still in the uppercard. He really should have inherited Shamrock and Triple H's spots. And he was great in the ring in early 98 before he started roiding.

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  126. His offense looks like it would've fit perfect as a late 80s IC champ.

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  127. Thaddeus MountainJune 5, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    I like to think they're like the Liberty's dance squad in 30 Rock. Elderly folks and Liz Lemon.

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  128. Jonathan MeisnerJune 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    I want a Val Venis/Warrior feud. I guess we already got it with Rude and Warrior, but the dynamic is a little different.

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  129. Thaddeus MountainJune 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Currently in a cheesecake coma.

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  130. Why couldn't HHH and X-Pac ever color coordinate? One would wear black/red and the other would wear black/green. Always.

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  131. Alright, I'll admit it, my first TV crush was Lola Bunny

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  132. I was just thinking that!

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  133. Jonathan MeisnerJune 5, 2015 at 6:55 PM

    Liar! Clearly, someone must be typing in your stead then.

    I mostly wanted to incorporate the word stead into a sentence.

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  134. I think the Radicalz and Jericho coming in hurt him a lot as they were just too good in the ring and bumped up the work rate. Then Angle came in and even Rikishi was over in the mid card. I could see how Billy hot lost in the shuffle and then he got hurt for a long time.

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  135. Jonathan MeisnerJune 5, 2015 at 6:56 PM

    Christine Sutherland from Night Court for me.

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  136. The Triple H push IS COMING!!!!!!

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  137. That's who Val reminds me of most! Rude! That makes all the sense in the world now that you point it out. I could just imagine a Val/Jake feud; the "snake vs. Valboski" promo Val cut would get the WWF kicked off the air.

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  138. Part of the problem was the injuries. They always tried to reinsert him when he came back but there were just too many guys. If he isn't all roided up and injury prone, he could easily have been part of that logjam. Probably ends up taking Rikishi's place as he was the most logical candidate to run down Austin.

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  139. And for the longest time, those were the only two color schemes those two would use, but never synced up.

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  140. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 5, 2015 at 6:58 PM

    And we're all better off for it.

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  141. Jonathan MeisnerJune 5, 2015 at 6:58 PM

    "Jake! While you've been busy putting your snake on your opponents after your matches. The Big Valbowski has been putting his snake *hehehe* all over your wife!"

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  142. I bet she fucked...

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    ...like a rabbit.

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  143. "If someone puts a pill in your drink, can they turn you gay?"
    "Uh, temporarily."
    "Where do I get those pills?"

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  144. Jonathan MeisnerJune 5, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    Women was a firehouse. Still doesn't look too bad today.

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  145. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 5, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    Taking up arms for HHH? Fine. Defending Nikki Bella. Sure. But Billy Gunn? I cannot abide.

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  146. Seems like every single player tonight has hit a home run.

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  147. This is the point where he started solidifying himself as my favorite wrestler. The "Let's get ready to suck it" from the Attitude video game was classic: "For the thousands in attendance, the millions watching around the world, and that one fat ass guy sitting on the couch playing this game..."

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  148. Pre-KotR Billy Gunn?

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  149. I also remember her from Fall Guy.

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  150. With Cheryl's face painted onto his entrance towel.

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  151. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 5, 2015 at 7:00 PM

    Sucks he went out with injury immediately after SummerSlam because he was really hot at that time.

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  152. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 5, 2015 at 7:00 PM

    I. Cannot. Abide.

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  153. Samantha from Who's The Boss.

    I was the same age!

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  154. FACT: The whole "HHH wasn't over and was over pushedin 99" narrative is a myth.

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  155. I loved that when you hit Triple H in that game he had the most robotic "ow" possible.

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  156. But it gave us edge cutting him down with the meatball sandwich comment and saying he won't "billy gunn " this tourney so I think it's a net win

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  157. Alright watching Daredevil episode 3... this is fuckin great!! WHITESTONE LANES!!! LOL

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  158. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 5, 2015 at 7:01 PM

    So is the HHH was the least over DX member in 98.

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  159. Jonathan MeisnerJune 5, 2015 at 7:01 PM

    Which he used after he painted Cheryl's face.

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  160. He was over enough to justify a push but holy shit they overpushed him. Kind of like Reigns this year, in fact.

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  161. "Jake! Your wife told me why you need that python! Somebody's making up for the garter snake in their pants! The Big Valbowski, on the other hand..."

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  162. "I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man."

    "Fill your hand, you son of a bitch!"

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  163. It stems from smarks pissed off at his 2003-04 run. Just made a bunch of shit up and somehow it stuck.

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  164. Oh and Denise from the Cosby Show.

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  165. Jesus, if they ever did a full WWE Legends videogame. Lol

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  166. Jonathan MeisnerJune 5, 2015 at 7:02 PM

    Alex Mack's mom

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  167. We did get the Billy Gunn Royal Rumble Countdown so that alls good.

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  168. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 5, 2015 at 7:02 PM

    Did they? I watched those Raws and PPV a while ago and never really felt he got shoved too strong. It helped that there were a lot of others like Austin, Rock, Mick and Taker so HHH's push up the card didn't feel so strong.

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  169. Not sure what a stead is, but I'm guessing it's hard to type in one?

    #HOSSHUMOR

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  170. I loved how quickly everybody threw 2000 away. And that nobody would acknowledge that 2008 was happening.

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  171. They gave him the big push in late 99 but he ran with it and became the top heel. That is how wrestling is supposed to work.

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  172. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 5, 2015 at 7:03 PM

    I dislike his 2003 run as much as the next fella but it definitely seems like people let their opinions of him now color their perception of him then and it just is incorrect.

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  173. Those black/silver tights kicked ass. I was stoked he kept that color scheme when he switched to trunks. I was all-in on the solo push that summer.

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  174. Probably because it happened on Smackdown.

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  175. Thaddeus MountainJune 5, 2015 at 7:04 PM

    I'm a very talented comatose fellow.

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  176. Hoss finds the idea of being comatose from cheesecake...amusing.

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  177. Mid-99 is what I'm talking about. Pretty much that period from WM15-Unforgiven I remember being ridiculous with how prominent he was for no justfiable reason. Evil HHH with Chyna wasn't worth it. McMahon-Helmsley faction was awesome.

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  178. Thaddeus MountainJune 5, 2015 at 7:05 PM

    Alyssa Milano on Who's The Boss? because it was the 80s and she was the best.

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  179. And while we're dropping truth bombs about HHH, this is another: The Evolution gimmick wasn't a bad one, nor him going over everyone wasn't why that run sucked. It sucked because he was out of shape and he was doing a terrible Flair impression.

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  180. He didn't seem out of place in the Summerslam triple threat, like somebody like Billy Gunn or Ken Shamrock would've at that point.

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  181. Macklin, Man Without FearJune 5, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    It didn't even really feel like his strong push began until about June. That's when he started working main events and Rock worked mid card matches.

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  182. If he doesn't join the Corporation in 99, the McMahon-Helmsley angle couldn't have happened.

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  183. That's exactly it. Plus the bizarre targeting of WCW main eventers was kind of weird.

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  184. '99 HHH was the original Orton push but he proved he was worth it in the end.

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