Saturday, June 27, 2015

If Lex beats Flair in 1990

According to thehistoryofwwe.com, Lex Luger was to defeat Ric Flair at a house show in early 1990 and finally win the world title before Flair had it axed.

If this had occured, how would this of affected the big Sting comeback at GAB 1990? Lex was just turned face again at this point.

Would they have turned Luger before July so soon? Or maybe have Sting feud with Flair as planned without the title on the line and build to Luger vs Sting at Starrcade that year?

Here is the rundown from Historyofwwe.com

NWA @ Chicago, IL - UIC Pavilion - March 23, 1990 (6,500)
A film crew, as well as Lance Russell, Chris Cruise, and Dennis Brent were flown to the city to tape what was scheduled to be NWA World Champion Ric Flair losing the title to NWA US Champion Lex Luger; the title change didn't take place because Flair wasn't given ample notice, which was part of his contract; Flair agreed to the title change but only in return for a contract release, which Jim Herd refused; Pro Wrestling Illustrated's Bill Apter was also on hand
Mike Rotunda pinned Cactus Jack; after the bout, Cactus was taken to the hospital for having been tied in the ring ropes too long during the match
Norman pinned Kevin Sullivan
Ricky Morton & Robert Gibson defeated Jimmy Garvin & Steve Casey (sub. for Michael Hayes)
NWA US Tag Team Champions Brian Pillman & Tom Zenk defeated Bobby Eaton & Stan Lane
NWA Tag Team Champions Rick & Scott Steiner defeated NWA TV Champion Arn Anderson & Ole Anderson
The Road Warriors defeated Doom
NWA World Champion Ric Flair pinned NWA US Champion Lex Luger at 20:13 after Ole Anderson interfered and hit Luger with Woman's high heel shoe

​Yeah, there was a bunch of times that year where they had Luger booked to go over and Flair put the kibosh on it.  I'm pretty sure they would have done like they eventually did in 91 -- Lex wins the title, immediately turns heel and builds up to a feud with Sting.  That was the direction they had been trying to go for months anyway.  ​

737 comments:

  1. I don't know why some in the IWC knock Flair for playing backstage politics with this. If it's true that he promised the rub to Sting before he tore up his knee, I think Flair was well within his right to put the kibosh on a hastily organized Luger run when they'd been building for Sting to overtake Flair for nearly two years by that point.

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  2. Cena vs Orton,one more timeJune 27, 2015 at 12:32 PM

    If its any consolation,the housing situation here is crazy as well.Try buying an apartment in southern Delhi, it's as expensive as fucking Manhattan. Don't even get me started on Bangalore and Mumbai.

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  3. You know what I do on my birthday now? Just be lazy as fuck. Works for me.

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  4. The Best Team Money Could Buy

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  5. Cena vs Orton,one more timeJune 27, 2015 at 12:37 PM

    Yep,and the state governments won't give a damn since they're getting a nice piece of the pie out of this.
    Also,the real estate companies are little more than thugs in shiny suits.

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  6. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2015 at 12:42 PM

    In your case, just say you don't want to be associated with a team that's owned by a scumbag. And really I have no problem with divesting yourself from a team that's simply completely incompetent (see also: Sixers, Knicks).


    Just become a Pelicans fan, they're the real Hornets anyway.

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  7. Leave it to XPW to make a child-raping serial killer into a gimmick.

    Fuck XPW

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  8. Mine is on the 7th and I'm in the boat with you. Since it's on a Tuesday, I decided to just celebrate it on the 4th and go kayaking.

    Btw, happy birthday.

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  9. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    Hilarious douche though.

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  10. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2015 at 12:46 PM

    Mellow Mushroom sounds like the name of a head shop.

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  11. Had to look up who Pedro Strop is. Man, I'm old and out of touch

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  12. Only 2 men have beat Cena in the main event at WM. The Rock and The Miz. However, Cena got his win back against the Rock, but Cena never again defeated the Miz in the main event at WM. Therefore, the Miz is the greatest wrestler of all time.

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  13. I did it for my b-day 3 years ago and loved it. Just now getting the chance to go back. Man vs Nature, ftw

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  14. I haven't seen one single person in my Facebook saying hateful shit the last couple days. I guess I've done a good job over the years of weeding out the assholes from my feed. I will unfriend actual, real-life friends without thinking twice.

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  15. Watching all these old Pirme Time Wrestlings that were the build to WrestleMania III, and over 1/2 the guys on these shows are no where near the WrestleMania card. The Islanders, the US Express (Rotundo/Spivey version), Blackjack Mulligan, Bruno Sammartino, Lanny Poffo, some guy called the Red Demon, Frenchy Martin, Dino Bravo (I mean, I guess he's a second but still), Pete Dougherty, Ron Bass and Jimmy Jack Funk, SD Jones, Sika, Paul Roma & Jim Powers. And some other guys who are around and they talk about but I haven't seen wrestle yet, like Demolition and Kamala. I mean I get a guy like Doughtery was a reginoal job guy. But it amazes me how much of the roster they DIDN'T use for Wrestlemania 3 which was a show with like fifteen matches.

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  16. Get someone to take you out to dinner.

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  17. It's raining outside and I am working new student orientation. Id rather be at home..........watching some old school westerns or Once Upon a Time in the West.

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  18. My girlfriend is out of town this weekend and I'm busy all day today (running errands all morning, working until 7, working the BBQ truck for a big downtown event when I'm off), so last night I was very content to just get high as fuck, have a few beers, and play Super Mario World and/or watch wrestling until I passed out. So when I got off work I bought a sixer of Sierra Torpedo, and picked up a pizza and some mozzarella sticks on the way home.

    My girlfriend is out of town this weekend and I'm busy all day today (running errands all morning, working until 7, working the BBQ truck for a big downtown event when I'm off), so last night I was very content to just get high as fuck, have a few beers, and play Super Mario World and/or watch wrestling until I passed out. So when I got off work I bought a sixer of Sierra Torpedo, and picked up a pizza and some mozzarella sticks on the way home.
    I ate the mozzarella sticks, and a couple hours later totally forgot about the pizza and went down the street to get a burger from Hardee's.
    I ended up still eating half of the pizza later. I'm not proud of it, but I did.

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  19. I remembering joking a few days ago that someone should take down that confederate flag in SC. Someone actually did it today!

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  20. I hate it too. And I hate people wanting to "go out" on my birthday. I don't give a shit that it's my birthday and I don't expect people at a bar to care either.

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  21. kbwrestlingreviewsJune 27, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    Yeah he didn't help things there. That was one of the major things about WCW at this point: people doing really, really stupid things that they would never do under a tighter ship because they would get yelled at otherwise. Instead, it's just "do whatever you want because you get paid anyway."

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  22. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJune 27, 2015 at 1:01 PM

    I was surprised they never brought him back to the WWE after the Dark Knight was released.

    In all seriousness, Sasha Banks could pull off a creepy variant of the character.

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/85/82/2d/85822dafc6a751d5820597e83bdfc4ed.jpg

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  23. What do you consider "special?" I don't mind going out for dinner and a few drinks with my family, my girlfriend, maybe a couple of close friends but I'm not gonna make a fucking ordeal out of it?

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  24. I say become a Memphis or Pelicans fan. Or just pick a team that have players you like.

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  25. Triple H says no, I can't drop the title to Daniel Bryan because I promised it to Roman Reigns when he gets back.


    Wouldn't go over well around here.

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  26. So my new girlfriend and I made our relationship "Facebook official" yesterday and her friends were primarily concerned that she was dating a White Sox fan (she's a huge Cubs fan and most of her friends are too, apparently), and *then* curious if the kid in my profile picture is mine (it's not).

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  27. So did I miss some news? what the fuck is wrong with Kevin Von Erich https://twitter.com/KevinVonErich/status/614848966878859264

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  28. I'm gonna go with "less than what's wrong with most of his siblings"

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  29. Just like Batista going into the main event of Wrestlemania

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  30. They probably should have given the belt to Luger at the end of 1988 actually -- they were actually drawing well on the house show circuit at that point. 1989/1990 were definitely rough years financially and the house shows really went down hill after Sting won the title in 1990 -- which is one of the reasons they decided to give Luger a shot finally anyway.

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  31. Well he isn't a corpse!

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  32. it's funnier when you explain the joke

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  33. Looks like a middle aged red neck.

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  34. Seems fine to me.

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  35. My name is on the birthday board at my local. Yay free drinks!

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  36. Anyone who orders that hot dog burger with extra dog should be arrested

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  37. Shawn over Vader at Summerslam

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  38. "There are more botches and blatant loud called spots combined, than there are minutes in the matches"

    John Cena does still earn a lot of merch money though l.

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  39. One year all I wanted to do was go out for dinner and home for drinks with my girlfriend since we rarely had Saturday where we were both off and kid-free (hers, not mine). We went to my favorite place to eat, she complained about the food, complained about the price, invited her friends to come join us, then dragged me to to a bar that they were going to because her friend was in town that she hadn't seen since she moved 3 weeks prior. In her words "It's just unfortunate your birthday had to be on the same night Cheryl was in town".


    She was something.

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  40. Replace Daniel Bryan with Booker T and Roman Reigns with Goldberg and I think that actually happened, in fact.

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  41. I'm really disappointed. I enjoy arguing with people and seeing stupid shit. All I see is rainbows.

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  42. Today is the four year anniversary of this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2JC8saqnEA

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  43. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJune 27, 2015 at 1:27 PM

    I actually agree with this. No one though an injured Shane would retain.

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  44. What happened?

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  45. The way they're pushing him, it has to be MVP.

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  46. Then you couldn't be a fan of 99 percent of pro sports teams

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  47. One connection I've never made before: Punk talking about Vince's imaginary brass rings and cut t a few years later, Vince is spitting that nonsense on Austin's podcast.

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  48. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJune 27, 2015 at 1:32 PM

    Another one is Hogan over Bundy at WM II

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  49. HHH over cactus jack at rr and nwo 2000

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  50. I think Luger as a heel champ in 89-90 would have been good leading up to Sting beating him at Starrcade.

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  51. Still one of the best promos of all time. Kinda want to watch MITB now.

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  52. Cena vs Khali. Hard to believe Cena was the underdog at one point.

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  53. Is anyone else having problems with Disqus?

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  54. Ye gods, I love that woman...

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  55. Stranger In The AlpsJune 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    I didn't get the chance to state this earlier, but Pedro Strop has a history of showing up the other team. Strop stunk last night and walked off with some of his usual theatrics and Costas called him out on it. I don't have a problem with that.


    A few years ago when Strop was with Baltimore, he had a bad inning against the Red Sox but still kept the lead in the game. When he got the third strike, he pumped his fist and pointed to the sky and Sox color guy Jerry Remy stated "Easy, Strop! Settle down!".


    If a guy stunk and still walks off showing up the other team, why shouldn't he be called out?

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  56. Because Sting was already doing that in TNA I'd imagine.

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  57. I started watching it the other day. Hadn't watched the full show in forever, fell asleep sometime shortly before Orton/Christian. Probably my favorite show ever, Punk/Cena is definitely my favorite match ever. Of all the sports/music/entertainment events I could possibly have attended that I didn't, MITB ranks a close second behind the 2005 Illinois/Arizona Elite 8 game, which coincidentally was in the same building.

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  58. Sid over Bret at the December 96 ppv. Nice defense for the big man.

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  59. It's another case of instead of letting something happen organically they forced the turn. Doink as a heel was so awesome he would've won over the fans eventually.

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  60. Because Bob Costas is a sanctimonious penis.

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  61. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJune 27, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    Just woke up from a long nap from pain meds due to getting a wisdom tooth pulled.

    But in response to your question Bob Costas is nothing but a dick-blowing front runner.

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  62. Stranger In The AlpsJune 27, 2015 at 1:41 PM

    Yeah, I'm no Costas fan, but any announcer could have said what Costas did.

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  63. And because no reasonable person cares about someone who throws a ball for a living celebrating.

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  64. Not giving Lex the title was one of Flairs major blunders. He's a great talent but a terrible booker.

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  65. Sure, but almost all of them wouldn't, and even if they did they wouldn't have several decades of a body of work of being an obnoxious dickhole.

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  66. I suppose. But I don't think it's very fair to Flair that he often gets lumped in with Hogan, 90's HBK and HHH as the ultimate backstage politicking weasels. Flair has logged more high profile jobs than most I think (Sting, Hart in 2 promotions, Steamboat, Savage at Mania, Hogan 1.3 million times, etc.). I mean all Flair did from the mid-90's on was job in WCW really with very few exceptions.

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  67. it is another

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  68. Sounds kinda like my ex. Except she doesn't have kids. She did wait all of about two months to get pregnant with someone nearly twice her age she met in AA, so....I upgraded, is what I'm trying to say here.

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  69. Stranger In The AlpsJune 27, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    I love when Hawk Harrelson gets all ranty. He's a horrible announcer, but when he gets pissed at something, he's hilarious to listen to.

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  70. Dale Jr. is going to need to "hasta la vista" a lot of Facebook followers himself today, "that flag belongs in museums and that's about it."

    ET TU, JUNIOR? YER DADDY WOULDA NEVER...!

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  71. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 27, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    Serioisly. Anywhere between 88-91 and he cant make Lex a top guy?

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  72. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJune 27, 2015 at 1:45 PM

    I thought Sting had just lost his mind.

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  73. Also, maybe Luger getting the world title earlier in his career leads him to stay motivated rather than more or less phoning it in (with a few exceptions) for years to come.

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  74. Also one of the most important. I can't imagine the world we'd be living in if a person like Booker were allowed to win.

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  75. Yeah, I saw that story this morning also. Chuckled, and then wondered... I bet the vast majority of those fans won't give a sliver of a shit about what he said.

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  76. Wouldn't say I didn't give him a chance, but I certainly was rooting for Foley. I'd say the way he won (driving Cactus into the tacks with the pedigree) was more shocking then his winning in general.

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  77. NASCAR fans who come in campers with that shit all over them? Oh, they're gonna has a sad all right, lol.

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  78. Costas saying what he said was HILARIOUS to me... a little low for the midget moralist, but still hilarious.

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  79. Yeah, Lex knew what he was good at and did it well, pretty much right until he went to the WWF. After that he was just never the same guy.


    Did Luger have one great match after 1992? His match vs Yokozuna at Summer Slam 1993 was decent. His big moment against Hogan in 1997 was awesome, but it was a nothing match. The triangle match at Starrcade 1995? I feel like that one is a little overrated.



    I really can't think of even one.

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  80. Hasn't Nascar banned the flag?

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  81. I fucking hate him and his stupid-ass rants. It'd be one thing if he showed any willingness to understand baseball in 2015, or ever be correct about anything he ever says, or ever make a point that isn't entirely anecdotal nonsense. I've defended him from non-White sox fans for years, because he's ours. He's our family, so we can say that shit about him, but not you.


    Fuck that. I've been ready for him to go for quite a few years, now. I can't stand him. And he has such thin fucking skin. He bitches several times a year about something Boers and Bernstein (Chicago sports radio talk show guys, they're great but can be kinda mean-spirited at times) say about him, except he won't listen to the show. He just has his minions feed him shit, and he always gets whatever they've said about him completely wrong.

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  82. I think Herd went about it wrong and was usually wrong on most things but he was absolutely right about putting the title on Luger in 91.

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  83. From "official" use, sure. But as far as I know not one fan's been banned from watching a race just because they have it on their trailer.

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  84. Fans can fly it on racetrack property, but NASCAR's banned its use in any "official capacity."

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  85. Flair could be a dick.

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  86. Stranger In The AlpsJune 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    I like to hear a little sass from my announcers from time to time. Some athletes earn it.

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  87. You'd be amazed what they're willing to ignore, especially when it comes to certain people.


    Now if Gordon or Johnson had said something like that... oh, would the ignorance and vile fly.

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  88. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    If they did that NASCAR would go broke.

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  89. Matches....no, but damn if I didn't love his character in '95.

    Why have they never tried that again?

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  90. Gordon says he supports the ban too, I'm sure that's not being taken well either. But yeah, the FB news feed I just saw the Dale Jr. story lined on? Click the comments, it's all "TELL THAT TO MY FAMILY THAT DIED AT ______ THAT 'IT'S OFFENSIVE TO AN ENTIRE RACE!'" and shit. Hilarious.

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  91. He had some okay ones with Savage.

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  92. So it's banned in a half way chicken shit kinda way. Got it.

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  93. Stranger In The AlpsJune 27, 2015 at 1:52 PM

    If I was a White Sox fan, I would have the game on mute most of the time. I listen to Jerry Remy as the color guy for the Sox, and his old-school mentality comes through a lot of the time. The "unwritten rules" type stuff.

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  94. Essentially, lol, yep.

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  95. If it costs Dale even .1% of his fanbase, I'll be mildly surprised.


    ... well, I would be if I still followed NASCAR.

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  96. Yeah but I mean he was painting up his face like the Joker and crap.

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  97. God, I hate that shit. My solution is to just stop watching White Sox baseball, because it's bad for you anyway. Last year was at least kinda-sorta fun even though they sucked but I'm already totally done with the 2015 Sox.

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  98. I think it all evens out. For a long time there Flair was treated like Saint and if he lost a match or wasn't the focus of the show it was "poor Ric, WCW shits on him".


    I mean, how many decades had to have revolve around Ric Flair for him to be treated fairly?


    Flair would job but he usually got the title back down the road, until he ran into Hogan.

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  99. But aren't they supposed to be under multi-year deals? This is now four guys under multi-year deals that have quit in the past week. How can they even do that? Wouldn't TNA be able to sue them for breach of contract?

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  100. So Edmonton might not stink if McDavid delivers and Talbot's not a Giguere flash in the pan, eh?

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  101. Hindsight being 20/20, there is zero reason why Punk shouldn't have added to the Rock/Cena match. They really did botch everything after MITB.

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  102. I was thinking that too. I bet the make the playoffs. I'm a big Talbot fan. Dude was a stud for my fantasy team.

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  103. Living my BoD Raw gimmick again tonight. Slangin' BBQ at probably the third or fourth biggest event we do: Blues, Brews and BBQ. I sadly won't be getting drunk and live-posting this one on the BoD like when I run the truck by myself at the bar. Actual work to do tonight.

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  104. EV-ERY-ON - EV-ERY-THING!

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  105. Stranger In The AlpsJune 27, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    Ted 2 is kinda meh, with some funny moments. Save your money for the rental.

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  106. Which one? 28 or 29?

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  107. It was nice being able to razz Rags fans who for years have insulted Marty for The Trap and "look at the defense in front of him" and seeing their King with No Rings be replaced and the team not miss a beat, I'll say that. lol

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  108. I never made fun of Mary for the trap. Just the banging his wife's sister thing.

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  109. That's what the consensus seems to be. I'm checking out Jurassic World today

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  110. "Hey, don't you want someone who's in demand?"

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  111. I mean, it would've made a lot of sense but they'd already announced it and it ended up doing huge numbers. I'm as big a Punk fan as anyone but I'm fine with that. I'll argue to my death that 29 should've been the triple threat, though.

    What I wonder is if they hadn't announced Rock/Cena a year out and they went all in on Punk, if Punk v. Rock at 28 could have done just as big of a number. Probably not but I bet it wouldn't be far off.

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  112. Lol I'm getting the same shit as I just went official with my new girl, who is a diehard Giants fan to my diehard Dodgers fan. She's already had family members jokingly tell her to put a Giants hat on me while I sleep and take pics

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  113. Punk/Rock/Cena does the same amount of business at 28, if not more. Half of the pipe bomb promo is about being pissed Rock is in the main event. The storyline was right there.


    Plus, at 28, if Punk steals a victory on Cena, you have a legit reason to do Rock/Cena to finally settle it at 29.

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  114. What I'm curious is what happens if Sting doesn't blow his knee out.


    Luger was still a big time heel when that happened and the reason he turned face is because "his buddy Sting" got hurt by the Horsemen and couldn't get the title shot he earned.


    Up until that point Luger was going pretty strong as a heel and definitely would have been up for a shot at the title and Feud with Sting as the "New Generation" with Sid in the Mix.


    A full blown feud with Heel Luger v Sting after Sting and The Steiners put Flair and Sid out of the title picture for a moment, leading up to Starcade would have been money... or at least a lot better than what we got.


    Yes, I would put the title on Luger in this scenerio.

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  115. Eh no big deal, he's been a middle reliever for most of his career so you'd actually have to follow baseball pretty hard to know who he is.

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  116. Stranger In The AlpsJune 27, 2015 at 2:10 PM

    Turn back the clock day in Tampa Bay and the Rays unis are 80's Padres-esque

    http://mlb.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pMLB2-13260443dt.jpg

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  117. A Triple H win was just celebrating the heritage of that belt, right?

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  118. Same. 100% approval rate from all my friends. I chose wisely.

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  119. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJune 27, 2015 at 2:11 PM

    I....kinda like that.

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  120. I've NEVER liked those alternates. That applies to the VAST majority of that line.

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  121. MLB needs to bring back Turn Ahead The Clock day from the late 90s

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  122. Stranger In The AlpsJune 27, 2015 at 2:12 PM

    The pants are powder blue.

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  123. Please don't. Most of those were atrocious bonfire material.

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  124. James Storm should try and get hired by WWE as a manager.

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  125. Charismatic eNegro Jef VinsonJune 27, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    Ugh.

    If the pants were black they'd kick ass.

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  126. I was about to add that one on

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  127. Honestly, we could've done worse than Cena.

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  128. Bray Wyatt's kayfabe dad

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  129. Sure, it could've worked. But I never really gave much thought to it because a)they announced Rock/Cena a year out and I was genuinely excited about that match, and it ended up doing the huge business it did b)Punk/Jericho was something of a dream match for me and c)all three characters' interaction and how far above everyone they were on the roster had reached such a crescendo that it was so fucking obvious for WM29.

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  130. To be fair, I don't think Booker was over enough to be champion at that point.

    Though, the second they went with the "people like you" reference, they should've put Booker over. Then HHH could've just gotten back at the first Raw only PPV. As a bonus we avoid the shitty Nash feud!

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  131. The WWE's 50 Greatest Superstars of All Time is very very very terrible. I believe this was made when Hogan and Flair went to TNA because Flair is at 17 and Hogan is at 23.

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  132. The upside is that Cubs fans here, in Champaign (and central Illinois in general) care a million times more about the Cubs/Cardinals rivalry than Cubs/Sox, and I also hate the Cardinals way more. I couldn't give a shit less about the Cubs but I'll gladly shit on the Cards.

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  133. I'll throw in Edge defending against Cena at SummerSlam 06. He was in danger of being in "Bulldog" territory at that point. That win kind of solidified him a bit.

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  134. The fact that someone suggested 3 Sid matches boggles the mind.

    Then that that got through a committee and made it to air is more confounding.

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  135. So Magnus, James Storm & Austin Aries seems to be done with TNA after tommorrow. Look like their like it or leave it policy is working well

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  136. It worked so well when he ripped off the Crow that TNA and he both thought they'd be in the money if they reprised that!

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  137. WWE 2K16 will have 120 folks on its roster with no repeats (like three Foleys or Hogans or 2011 Cena and Mark Henry). So that's interesting.

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  138. Kennedy!!! .... Kennedy

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  139. Corned Biff HashJune 27, 2015 at 2:31 PM

    I can't believe the Hurricanes actually won a trade for the first time in recorded history. I'm astounded.

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  140. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2015 at 2:31 PM

    So it will start with about 30 and the other 90 will be DLC I'm guessing.

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  141. Corned Biff HashJune 27, 2015 at 2:31 PM

    Kill. It. With. Fire.

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  142. Who? Names, I need names

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  143. To me Storm is the most talented guy they've had work for them besides AJ. Daniels may be more talented, but not really a main eventer.

    I think they really missed out not putting Storm over Roode at Lockdown... He could've had a successful run as a likeable Everyman champion.

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  144. I've said it before but the main roster really needs more padding if they are going to keep up the 5+ hours of original content.

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  145. I remember Heenan always speculating who Doink was. As a kid I got the impression Doink was *somebody* and we'd find out who eventually. What a waste of time he became as a face though.

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  146. Corned Biff HashJune 27, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    I know it's not the primary subject, but NASCAR has been pushing drivers to do this sort of stuff for the last few years. For better or for worse, there is a certain stigma to NASCAR fans that isn't entirely unwarranted. So when NASCAR came out against the religious freedom law in Indiana, in favor of gay marriage, and now the Confederate flag debate, it didn't so much smack of a company trying to be on the right side of the issue as it was trying to be PC despite its image. If that makes any sense; it felt awkward and forced.

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  147. Only it would have been "I like him because he's a sinister fuck" turning into "Oh he draws unflattering pictures of his opponent on a balloon now."

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  148. I'm guessing NXT is going to help them stretch it to that number.

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  149. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2015 at 2:36 PM

    Outside of Heyman WWE doesn't do managers anymore.

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  150. They want almost everyone on per appearance deals

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  151. Its tough to argue that it was booked wrong with the business 28 did. Absolutely should have been a triple threat at 29 with Punk being champion going in

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  152. He should go back to TNA and rip of Johnny Depp in Dark Shadows. Completely unaware what century it is.

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  153. Lana, Zeb, Nattie.

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  154. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    Lana and Nattie just stand there, and when was the last time Coulter was on TV?

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  155. The storyline and promos were absolute shit leading up to 28.

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  156. My point is the seem more open to using managers when needed in recent years.

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  157. Well in 2006, that means more HHH, and he was really played out then, and needed the DX break he took.

    More Orton (yawn) more Batista, (shittier matches) means they probably keep Lashley around. More Kennedy, etc, etc.

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  158. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2015 at 2:41 PM

    And worse leading to 29.

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  159. They got destroyed on that Staal trade.

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  160. I agree it was uninspired both times. But what sold 28 was the mainstream factor of Cena-Rock. Adding Punk takes away from that.

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  161. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 27, 2015 at 2:44 PM

    And introducing my new favorite NHL player: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/senators-draft-pick-snubs-gary-bettman-s-handshake-attempt--video-043834558.html

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  162. Comedy sequels are kind of meh in general.

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  163. Steamboat vs. Flair - Clash of the Champions VI
    HHH vs. Cactus Jack - Street fight at Royal Rumble 2000
    HHH vs. Cactus Jack - Hell in a Cell at No Way Out 2000
    Angle vs. Benoit - Royal Rumble 2003

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  164. Corned Biff HashJune 27, 2015 at 2:51 PM

    We've been living on the fumes of 2006 for years now, even when our team made it to the ECF a couple of years ago. But getting Eddie Lack for a sack of beans makes it more feasible for us to move on from Cam Ward after next season.

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  165. Corned Biff HashJune 27, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    I'm not a fan of Bill Simmons, but his theory on Gary Bettman being a plant by David Stern to destroy hockey was one of the funniest bits he ever wrote.

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  166. There was nothing more mainstream in 2011 in wrestling than CM Punk. That is a fact.

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  167. Lack kept me alive in the BoD fantasy hockey league so I'll always have a soft spot for him.

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  168. "poor Ric, WCW shits on him"

    When? When did anyone ever say that? You sound like someone who wasn't around then and doesn't know what he's talking about.

    "I mean, how many decades had to have revolve around Ric Flair for him to be treated fairly?"



    None. Champion and main event focus '83 to '91 and always in the mix but never the dominant main eventer he was before thereafter,


    Flair was champion throughout the eighties because he drew the money. Flair jobbed throughout the post-93 period because that's where the money was with him. He did everything you should expect of a main eventer... worked his way up, rode the wave at the top and jobbed his way down after his time as champion had passed. Yeah, he vetoed various jobs... name me a world champion anytime before 2001 who didn't. That's the stroke you get on top.

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  169. Or you're so insecure in your convictions that you insulate yourself from anyone whose thought process differs from yours.

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  170. God I was so disheartened to learn that Flair beat Sting in Jan. 91 to regain the belt. I had thought we were done with that. Warrior and Sting's reigns in 1990 seemed just fine to this 12-year-old mark.

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  171. Corned Biff HashJune 27, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    I don't particularly care what the naysayers claim; I love watching a game at Tropicana Field. For one thing, it's 200 degrees with 500% humidity in South Florida in July and August, and that sweet, sweet 72-degree air conditioning is like a hug from the Lord.

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  172. My hate for the Yankees has been replaced with hate for the Blue Jays, but the YES network is still obnoxious. A-Rod just got plunked and they're talking about it like it's the JFK Assassination.

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  173. "Vince, James Storm is available"

    "I LOVE THAT GUY!"

    "Really?"

    "YEAH I HEARD THAT SONG HE USED IN MEMPHIS THAT WENT 'SORRY ABOUT YOUR DAM LUCK!' JAMES STORM THE WRESTLING BEAVER! IT'LL BE LIKE CADDYSHACK! SIGN HIM!"

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  174. How is it chicken shit to allow people to express themselves on their own person?

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  175. Corned Biff HashJune 27, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    Michael Kay isn't quite as bad as Hawk Harrelson, but he's not far off.

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  176. That region is atrocious in the summer.

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  177. Are you trying to say Rey Mysterio wasn't a bigger superstar than either of those guys?

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  178. I like the Twins announcer for some reason. "Touch 'em all, $GUYWHOHITHOMERUN!"

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  179. Yeah, but by the time 28 rolled around, WWE had killed that. Heck, it was all killed by like September 2011 and the HHH feud. You'd have to rebook from September on to get Punk in that main event and get the same buyrate in my opinion.

    I love Punk, so don't get me wrong, I'd like him in there. Especially at 29.

    That's one thing with your scenario you lose the 400+ day reign. Because either Punk isn't champ at 28, or loses it there.

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  180. Sofia Vergara was at PWG yesterday and took this picture : https://instagram.com/p/4bHIAcLpRT/ this is really funny

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  181. They can be racist shitlords in private all they want. At a race track I own? Nooooooooope.

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  182. No, Punk retains in my scenario.

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  183. It's a list of "greatest", not "biggest".

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  184. Ha, that is pretty funny.

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  185. http://nerdist.com/no-mans-sky-takes-the-idea-of-mmorpg-to-the-next-level/



    WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?? I WANT IT SO BADLY!!!!

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  186. Corned Biff HashJune 27, 2015 at 3:08 PM

    Warning: Sports Fan Bitchfit Incoming

    http://www.sbnation.com/2015/6/26/8852517/nba-draft-2015-frank-kaminsky-charlotte-hornets-michael-jordan

    I'm done with the Hornets. They're not the real Hornets, but a cruel pretender to the franchise that was taken from us. Michael Jordan just robbed us both from either a slew of picks moving forward or Justise Winslow, a guy who could've started for us from Day 1 and been a possible future face of the franchise to draft a lanky forward (for a team with a glut of them) that is a mediocre finisher with a subpar wingspan and average defensive skills at best. I think I'm gonna puke.

    Never mind the fact that the asshole shit-talked Charlotte in interviews, refused to work out for the team and didn't want to come here. We had to have him because Michael Jordan was popping a boner at the thought of taking Adam Morrison 2.0? Fuck this team and all in it, DEAD TO ME.

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  187. Wow that'd be really tough. Vince convinced Rock to work a match with Cena around 27, pre pipe bomb.

    He'd have to call an audible, and convince Rock to not win at his hometown Weestlemania return. Not saying it's impossible, but you run the risk of Rock flaking and not delivering him at all

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  188. That No Man's Sky seriously is an insanely ambitious game. You can fly ships and travel to planets, and supposedly there are MILLIONS of planets to explore.

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  189. Lol they're the #3 East seed right now in my NBA2k Franchise league

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  190. This is Rock we're talking about here, not Hulk Hogan.

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  191. Yeah that game looks awesome as fuck

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  192. That's great. She's a real mamacita

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  193. This is something I'm just never gonna get. Video games are supposed to, like....end. You do the thing, you beat it, and then you go outside or something.

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