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Place to be Nation Podcasts

The fine folks over at Place to be Nation have two podcasts that discuss the career of Dusty Rhodes



"Exile on Badstreet" discusses the life and times of Dusty Rhodes

http://placetobenation.com/exile-on-badstreet-8-stardust-memories-the-life-times-of-dusty-rhodes/



"History of Wrestling" podcast also remembers Dusty's career

http://placetobenation.com/history-of-wrestling-podcast-episode-8-remembering-the-dream/



Give these two wonderful podcasts a listen by clicking on the links above.

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  1. Berlyn vs. Jim Duggan comes to mind.

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  2. I think Duggan just went into business himself, wanted to be a tough guy, hoooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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  3. To me, Taker's match and win against Hogan at survivor series '91 was his tippy top moment. After his debut, he didn't really do much other than squash Snuka at mania and then lock Warrior in a casket or terrorize Elizabeth at Summerslam. There were no high-profile matches.

    But the Hogan match was the first big-time match where we saw him pretty much manhandle Hogan and pin him, showing the fans this guy is the real deal.

    So of course Hogan got his win back a week later.

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  4. I agree with that, but the Shield was CRAZY over. We're talking varying degrees of being very, very over, not one being over and the other not.

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  5. Battle Kat LitterJune 12, 2015 at 10:24 AM

    I'm not sure I agree about the Undertaker being tippy top so early. I remember watching RR91 (where he was dumped mid way) and WM7 (Snuka squash), and he felt very much like the upper midcard monster we'd seen a million times (Bundy, Zeus, Earthquake etc), ableight one with a brilliant gimmick. I also remember, as a kid, feeling like Taker wasn't quite at Hogan/main event level when he was booked to face him at SS91. I think the face turn put him over the top as a megastar

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  6. Do you think that anyone of the current "new" guys (Shield, Rusev, Wyatt etc.) can reach the level of a Bret Hart, HBK, Flair, Sting or Undertaker?

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  7. Taker is an odd one because his main achievement has been Being The Undertaker. He usually wasn't a great world champion but rather the spooky alternative to Bret or Austin or Rocky or Cena.

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  8. The more I think about Taker, the more I realize how LONG he sat in midcard hell after his first title run. After This Tuesday in Texas, when was he ever a main-eventer? 1996? 1997?


    You could argue he wasn't thought of as a tippy top guy until WM 13 when he beat Sid for his second title run.

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  9. Well, part of the reason why he was positioned that way was because he was such a strong character that he didn't need a World title to be elevated.

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  10. Virgil's Gimmick TableJune 12, 2015 at 11:47 AM

    Taker was never a midcarder. The reason he was never champion during that time was because he was in fact so over, they could run him on one house show circuit and the champion on the other. He was the most over guy besides Bret and HBK. He started being put in the title picture when there were other guys as or more over than him to carry house shows themselves.

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  11. Virgil's Gimmick TableJune 12, 2015 at 11:48 AM

    Only if they're allowed to be. Which they won't be. They're just "WWE superstars". Not legit stars.

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  12. You're just forgetting his entire TNA tenure?

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  13. Taker was a special attraction. He didn't need the title. His matches were like a main event.

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  14. Battle Kat LitterJune 12, 2015 at 12:23 PM

    Totally agree about Bret and WMX. As a kid, I was befuddled by his first WWF Title reign. He wasn't ready. Felt like a midcarder had fluked a title win. He felt like an intruder at the top of the card.

    However. his storyline arc from 1993 onwards made him feel like a star. The KOTR win, the Owen jealousy, the Rumble win. I wish they'd never done his first title reign, because the second one (and the build to it) was the star-maker IMO

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  15. Whooshhhhhhhhh.

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  16. Absolutely.

    If you really look at any of the legends that you mentioned, most of them seemed like long-shots.

    Bret could have been any "good mechanic". Shawn could have been any high-flying pretty boy. Flair always looked like a senior citizen. Sting was pretty small to be a Hogan-esque world-beater. Taker could have been ECW's Zombie.

    And any of the current guys that "don't compare" absolutely could with proper booking.

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  17. Similar to Andre in that respect.

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  18. Didn't help that Bret won his first title at a house show without much buildup.

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  19. Midcard hell? He had some dodgy feuds from time to time, but he was always a major attraction.

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  20. yeah, I feel like people are overrating Taker as a draw, he was a special attraction guy but it's not like Andre. He was a big deal his first year, but I would say he was more or less caught in midcard hell till 1994 when Vince's hard sell of him started to pay dividends He more or less headlined SummerSlam and Survivor Series that year too.

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  21. Good stuff. Wish I'd been able to listen to them straight through.

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  22. Thought for a second you meant Flair's 82nd feud with Race

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  23. I'm gonna go ahead and say you're right.

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  24. In all seriousness though, guys like Aj Styles, Christoper Daniels, Donovan Morgan, and Jason Jett actually did basically debut for WCW right as they were going under. How much does that hurt to finally get your big break and the company folds?

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  25. Well, as discussed in the first part of this question, they've had guys who have hit the level recently even if WWE won't admit it. Daniel Bryan and CM Punk got to Brett's level in my opinion. We really just have to look at this stuff objectively. As Stuart mentions below: Rock started as a smiling 3rd generation weeny, Steve Austin was the Ringmaster, and HHH was a boring "aristocrrat" villain.

    I think Owens feels like he could get there if they keep him strong. The guy just radiates malice.

    Rollins is kind of in his early HHH phase where no one takes his title run seriously, but if he has his Street Fight with Foley moment, he easily could.

    Ambrose may always be an upper midcarder. Something about him doesn't fit into the PG universe, though he'll always be over. He's probably more of a Roddy Piper type.

    Reigns is an odd one because they are so committed to him so they will try to convince you that he belongs by putting him in every favorable situation possible. That doesn't mean he doesn't deserve success, just that he'll have the most whacks at it.

    Wyatt is going to be a waste. They don't know what to do with him. It makes me angry.

    Rusev can do it. He keeps taking everything that could be a dead end and making it work. The number of people who slept on him when he was coming out in a loincloth are taking back the things they said.

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  26. The thing I remember most about Bret's first title win specifically from the context of the time period was Jameson rubbing it in Heenan's face on Prime Time Wrestling. I couldn't even tell you if they even talked about it on the show prior to that.

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  27. He main-evented like all the 1994 pay-per-views he was a part of.

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  28. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 12, 2015 at 3:54 PM

    But things were vastly different when those guys came up: WCW (and ECW to a lesser extent) was around for guys who needed new life or a gimmick refresher, Vince was younger and seemingly more receptive to new ideas, he was surrounded by wrestling people rather than Hollywood types, the company was less beholden to corporate overlords, etc. I don't know if you can produce a Rock or an Austin in this environment. They've had enough trouble just trying to create a new Cena.

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  29. I actually think Rusev is probably the most likely to succeed out of the above group. I also believed Austin-Lesnar was happening at WM32 though so take that for what it is worth. :)

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  30. Undertaker at WM7 against Superfly. besides being a great match (even with the botched finish) that video tape was rented by EVERYONE... by Survivor Series UT already got his face pop on the Hogan pin


    for the company, probably Rumble 91. once UT entered the entire crowd couldn't stop staring until his elimination, he outshone the field

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  31. agreed, his "fightingest champion ever" deal made it even worse, defending against Mountie and Virgil

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  32. Taker was a huge drawn until a few months after the face turn... once his storyline was him getting his ass kicked and seeking revenge instead of the undead demonic monster it was over

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  33. "they just don't reach for that brass ring... better stick with some Triple H programs until he can bring up some new guys" - WWE for 10+years

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  34. MSG Jan 92, UT vs Bret Hart is one of the only times Heenan shoots on commentary about a guy being so over

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