That's ... ambitious.
Monday Night GAW?
So you won't be donating $40K so that you can get your name on one of their events?
Why do that when I can donate the same amount of money to attend 8 events?
Business friends. The best kind of friends.
They always say there's no safer investment than a start-up wrestling promotion, right? That's a thing they say, isn't it?
Why not do both?
Was that email from Jeff Jarrett?
GAW sounds like the noise you make when the first symptoms of chlamydia show up.
I agree, and weirdly, it comes in spurts. Like on Monday. The bit with Kane? First you get the dart board thing which is lame. Then the weird fake laughter which is also lame. But they then it's followed up with the Championship talk and he's great again. It's inconsistent writing.Also, the writers don't know how to actually write a crazy person. It's like the watched an episode of the A-Team and based the character traits on Murdock.
Gfw, dead before you even lived
I do but way to be pedantic about a joke.
Be worried when he walks.
It really doesn't. There are millions of non murders in that same state, but I am not surprised you are simple minded enough to think that.
Dean cracks open a Steve-weiser. It explodes in his face. Sister Abigail -> pin. Hell yeah.
Hold off on this for just a second, you guys. There's literally a popcorn machine in the break room directly above my office.
It's all about the GAW now
I bet racists breaks the seven figure mark though.
Nah I am checking out now. I have work to do, and you can only go so far with people of a certain level.
So apparently Ziggler's contract is up in 3 months..do you guys think he should be re-signed?
Here's what I would do regarding the mass shooting situation in S.C. Anyone with a history of mental illness or anyone who has a child with mental illness issues cannot own a gun or have any weapon in their home PERIOD. Anyone caught owning or in possession of a firearm with these issues will face a $5,000 fine. That includes being on medication or having previous violent issues. I am all for freedom of owning guns as I do have several myself but this shit has got to stop. Our country has become so divided on everything and we seem to be slowly self imploding.
He was impeached for lying under oath and covering up that lie.
A flag that is a symbol of racism can only be raised so high.
No. He will become a stand-up comedian.
Eh. EH.I think Dolph trying to make a living somewhere else is probably best for everyone.
Haven't you heard if you say the words mental illness in this case you are a racist.
That's cool but the SC shooting was about racism, not mental illness. It was terrorism, not some random shooting by a depressed kid.
There are some dumb names out there. This guy's middle name is Junior and he is also a Jr. Joey Joe Joe Junior Shabadoo may not be the worst name I've ever heard.
Anyone seen the new Spongebob movie yet? Loved the first one, but the creator left the show after the film was done, and the quality went down with it. I read he was back for the new movie, so am pretty interested in seeing it.
The thing I don't get about the Confederate Flag is that everyone knows it's a stupid symbol and a symbol for racism.It would be like Germany still flying the Nazi Symbol and saying it's all about German pride.
No but the kid clearly had issues. What normal sane person goes and shoots a bunch of people in a church? People can be racist and have mental issues.
I wouldn't call someone racist in that case, but I would say they were dumb.
I'd say such pathological racism as this guy had is a form of mental illness
Sure, but then along those lines is everyone whoever commits a terrible act just a victim of mental illness? Every murderer or terrorist, whether white or not--- is it all just mental illness?
"The man who shot and killed nine parishioners at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, told police that he “almost didn’t go through with it because everyone was so nice to him,” sources told NBC News.And yet Dylann Roof decided he had to “go through with his mission.”"
I'm sure Creative can find even more ways to humiliate him for the duration of a new contract
But then is everything a mental illness? ISIS and their mission and extremism--- is that mental illness?
"hmm, these blacks aren't so bad after all! Maybe all the racist shit I was taught all my life might be bullshit? Oh well, too late now!"
"Researchers in Boston have found a natural way to boost testosterone. Try this weird trick to take your performance to the next level."
I'm not arguing against that it was racially motivated but I'm annoyed by the IT'S THIS NOT THAT! ....Why can't it be discussed? why can't we not 100% declare what it is until all the facts are out and it's been fully investigated? Is it hard to accept it could be 75% racism and 25% mental illness or 80/20 or even 90/10 but if so then there is still might be something to be learned there.
Bringing up mental illness is burying the lede.
They're just keeping it ready because the south shall rise again.
To me the dumbest ones are where the first and last names are basically the same like Chris Christie or Johnny Johnson
It's been exactly 150 years. It should have risen by now.
He might as well keep making money. I hope someone tells him he's not actually funny enough to be a comic. Or funny at all.
It's not *just* being mentally ill. I'm not trying to make a major point here, I don't know what the Official Talking Points are for both "sides" or whatever
Boston, eh? Probably had to do with clam chowdah.
They're playing the long game.
What kind of hot take is this?!
It's a finger up the ass, I bet
I know.. I should just let it go but the hot takes from both sides just drive me nuts.
The Swastika was around long before the Nazis and in many cultures it is a positive symbol.
Tell me where I can obtain such a miracle product.
The use of a battle flag and its coincidental popularity during the nascent Civil Rights movement is telling. There are better symbols.
Because it is a bullshit copout. It ignores the deep, institutionalized racism. If this were a muslim shooting up a whites in a catholic church, no one would utter the phrase mental illness.
If I want to be serious, most of the recent presidents have been from the South: LBJ, Carter, Bush, Clinton, Bush.If you look at the people who have a shot at next year's election, lots of Southerners: Hillary and Huck (Arkansas), Rubio and Bush (Florida), Perry and Cruz (Texas), Paul (Tennessee). Plus a few more from South Carolina, and Louisiana.
The Scots still use St. Andrew's Cross, upon which the Stars and Bars flag was based. It's all about context.
No they are crazy too.
Being from Arkansas, we don't claim Hillary anymore
Pretty much for the most part yes. Hate to say it, but normal sane people do not do those sorts of things. People with mental illness and what they hide behind do.
With all due respect, if you don't have the capital to get the promotion started, you don't have any business in pro wrestling. How are you planning on paying the workers if you need money to get the promotion started? Pass.
That explains your avatar
Wasn't she born in Illinois anyway?
My peak for Ziggles was the RAW after WM29, when he cashed in on Del Rio. Through his fault or WWE's, I'm ver meh
Because that kind of thought and excuse-making is always and ONLY used when a blond white guy does the act. That's why it's infuriating to many to see it dragged out as the lede once again.
Cruz was born in Canada. Obama in Hawaii. Reagan in Illinois. People move around all the time.
Ask her and her answer will depend on what's best for her
I'm literally oozing testosterone
Cruz sounds like a good pick.
I'm honestly shocked that after the Survivor Series, he went back to being a jobber.
Canada? Is that legal
Macklin Man, Macklin Man Without Crown
Lady who called in the tip on the shooter says she recognized him due to...the bowl cut. Of course, hahaha.
I used to know a Doug McDougall.And Anton Antonov.
Cruz's father is Canadian, not Ted himself.
Yes. His mom is a US Citizen which makes him a US Citizen by birth.Issue also came up in 2008 because McCain was born on a US Military base in Panama while his dad was in the Navy
Sure, but mental illness is the go to talking point whenever there's this type of shooter, and it's never brought up when a non-white terrorist act happens, or when a black guy commits a crime. It's a total bullshit sequence of events that plays out over and over and over again.
WE ARE ALL BIZARRE!-British Bulldog.
Born and raised. The next President of these United States will be another Illinoisan.
Not true, his dad is Cuban."Cruz was born on December 22, 1970, in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, where his parents, Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson and Rafael Bienvenido Cruz, were working in the oil business. His parents owned a seismic-data processing firm for oil drillers. Cruz's mother, Eleanor Wilson Cruz, was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, of Irish and Italian descent; she earned an undergraduate degree in mathematics from Rice University in Houston in the 1950s.Cruz's father, Rafael Bienvendo Cruz, was born in 1939 in Matanzas, Cuba."
No I'm sorry. This is just the same line it always is of "the white kid has a reason, but the blacks are just thugs." I know your only stating one half of the argument, but the other half is implicit and even if you don't think it, that's what the race baiters on Fox News are going to use as their hook. This kid shot people because he was taught hatred and hey -- even if he was unstable, he WOULDNT HAVE SHOT THEM IF HE WAS NOT TAUGHT HATRED.
So then there is no choice-making going on? All murderers and terrorists and rapists etc committ these acts because of "mental illness"?
You're arguing against right-wing media talking points though, not what normal people might think. Yes, THEY think all Muslims are part of some terrorist conspiracy, a lot of people talk about disaffected youth when it comes to those things too. You don't just have to be the anti-Fox News. Break the set, get out of the Our Talking Points vs Their Talking Points paradigm
Even setting aside slavery and racism, it's a flag that flew in battle against the federal government. Treasonous armed insurrection. And yet the same assholes who slobber about supporting the troops wave that flag around.
Toughest guy with the same name:Magnus Ver MagnussenI loved watching him on espn2.
They also live off defense spending like no other.
I guess it depends on how much of hit these guys are really taking thanks to the network. Can he make more on the Indys and ROH/NJPW/Luncha Underground? But he has to know at this point he's never going to be the man.
fair enough I see your point though I tend to then lean...but then going to the other extreme to counter balance that doesn't really accomplish much either.
All in states that get more federal money than they pay in, but they scream about welfare queens.
The outrage from my viewpoint, as a black Southerner, is that mental illness is going to be used to excuse his actions, rather than calling it the terrorist act of a racist coward. I'm personally of the opinion that he's mentally ill, but that doesn't absolve him of a single bit of responsibility.He planned this attack. He chose the date. He walked into a church with historical significance, and after they opened their arms to him, he shot ten of them. The location of this attack, if nothing else, denotes it as a terrorist act. Black people in the South have had few places to truly feel safe, and church is one of them. Since the shooting, I've read black people asking where they can feel safe. They are terrorized.TL;DR: Dylann Roof is, in all likelihood, mentally ill. He's also a racist, a coward, a terrorist, and should receive the death penalty even if he pleads guilty.
I really do not like getting into talking politics on here or religion. Because what I am trying to say doesn't always clearly come across and then people want to argue about it. Case in point with this shooter. People are fucking nuts of all color and then we have those who get this shit instilled in their brain living in the type of environment they live in. We should get back to complaining about Vince and his backwards ass way of booking.
Welfare queens *wink*
Age old debate: Pizza Hut or Domino's? Domino's has really stepped their game up as of late.
The problem is this specifically goes far beyond extreme right wing talking points. This is just how these events are handled across the board with the majority of media. It's NOT a Fox News specific problem.Mental illness is brought up by most outlets as a factor everytime there's a white guy mass shooter, and almost never is discussed as a factor when it's a Muslim terrorist or a scary black dude on the news.
States' rights *wink*
Their choice is that what they are doing is the ring thing to do according to their mind.
Do you live in "DC area" Virginia or redneck Virginia?
I really don't know how the Fox News anchors live with themselves. I guess some people are just ok with telling blatant lies for money?
I saw that Ted Cruz and Bret Hart have the same birthplace (Calgary Alberta Canada)I think Ted Cruz should use all of Bret's quotes during the campaign. "I will give the United States an enema and start with Washington DC"
If this was a Fox News talking point thing, some idiot would be here trying to say this was an attack on faith.
However, there are also self-identifying "average Americans" who are going so far as to ask why every single crime a black person commits against a white person isn't a hate crime. I've even seen white people on Twitter claiming the shooter doesn't look like a white person. Racism has become so endemic that it's overtaken empathy, even in the mind of "normal" people.
I always liked the stuffed crust pizza
Notice it was only a six years long issue with the black guy.Not you Shelton.
Are people chasing windmills here? I haven't seen anyone, even Fox News, deny all those latter points.
"I am here to kill black people.""War on Christians! Video games!" Or like JEB! said himself this morning, "We just don't know what was on the mind of the shooter."
Yes. But the sadder thing is some of those assholes actually BELIEVE IT.
After Danimals review of the hot dog crust, I think it will be a while before I Pizza Hut again.
Right now I give it to the Hut. Pretzel crust, BABAY!
The fact that he has mental issues doesn't absolve him of responsibility. He knew what he was doing was wrong at the time he did it, so mental issues are irrelevant, except in the media narrative.
That's why the whole issue was dumb. Even if he was born in Kenya, his mom was still a US citizen.
Vince lived in a trailer park in North Carolina, but thankfully all that came of that with his racial views is...Saba Simba, One Man Gang's transformation in a back alley to Akeem, and R-Truth.
Neither, but Pizza Hut has the pizza buffet, so they win.
I love Domino's sandwiches.
I will accept I've been officially put in my place by you. As a white dude from the mid west obviously I am not the most in the know of people to be talking about this.
All the Bush kids are barely functioning retards. Babs must have smoked and drank though every pregnancy, then had their nurseries painted with lead paint.
This is the most awful part for me. He didn't just walk in and start shooting. He hung out with these people for an hour and then did it.
Hahaha, dude that's already happened.http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/06/18/foxs-steve-doocy-its-extraordinary-that-charles/204043
At lunch the other day someone suggested that Hogan should be Trumps running mate.. This could go down as the WrestleMania of US Presidential elections!
I live in redneck Virginia. It would take me 3 hours to drive to DC. With that said, I don't live in REDNECK Virginia. I live in/around a city with 100K ish population.
Also we make excuses for the white shooter, and look up reasons to justify the killing of black victims.
They're just telling nice stories so Grandpa can feel like he's keeping up with events without all that scary "nonwhite opinion".
I'm not saying they don't. I am just implying that all of this shit that goes on with shootings and everything starts with the mind of the individual involved.
That's fucking horrifying.
I guess being only a year behind everyone else is an improvement for Vince with that Ambrose stuff.
Instead of the Patriot, Ted can feud with The Muslim.
I appreciate that. I didn't mean to come off like I was putting you in your place. It's just been real frustrating the last few days, because I've seen viewpoints that didn't make half the sense yours did. Yours reflects your perspective and upbringing. Some of the shit I've read makes me wonder if there's something in the drinking water.There's white people on Twitter claiming the shooter "doesn't look white."
That is unfair. Whether you like Bush or not, Jeb is actually a really smart guy. They are college educated and most have been successful in business.I work with students who have very low IQs and it really is an unfair comparison.Don't like them all you want; however, that is just unfair name calling.
It's more like we're predicting what's about to come. Everyone I know knows what happens in a situation like this: the white shooter receives treatment that exemplifies white privilege. It's a pattern of behavior that's been ingrained in the American consciousness at large (not necessarily on the individual level) over the last 150 years.
I didn't mean that in a you attacked me way...I read your post and thought....yeah..that would really suck to feel that way...and while I think I had a fairly open minded level headed way of looking at things I should probably shut up because I don't/can't really know what I'm talking about in this.
Duh....ticket sales, TV rights fees and PPV money.
The Daily News, a traditionally conservative publication, absolutely BURIED trump. He's going nowhere, although we already knew that anyway. My money is he won't even stick around long enough to have to show his financials.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-entering-2016-presidential-race-article-1.2259706
He's not racist enough. That is a sad, sad statement.
You are correct, sir! We are usually somehow complicit in our own murders.
I feel like this could have been avoided if we as a country, finally got our shit together and automatically put anyone with a bowl cut on a watchlist.
The Post is the more conservative paper. The Daily News has a more inclusive "Everyone is an idiot" mentality.
It's hilarious how someone like Jeb just has to dance around ever even saying the word racist or racism, because otherwise he'd lose ground with his base. Like, I honestly can't imagine that even someone as dumbshit as Jeb doesn't think the shooter was a racist.It's just that a modern day conservative politician can't even hint that a white person might be capable of racism, or else a huge part of the constituency would turn on them.
It's never best to do so, especially when often you're just trying to think out loud and work stuff out
Amen. The kid should get the death penalty for the haircut alone.
The most awful part is that he left witnesses alive and told them to spread his message: "You rape our women. You're taking over our country. You have to go."
*the Washington DC
Back in the day, Pizza Hut, easilyThese days?Probably Dominoes. PH has had a severe drop in quality over the last... 20 years?
But it's the low end pizzas
Yeah, I have to say I've enjoyed discussing this topic more here than anywhere else on the Internet. It's shocking to find reasonable discourse this week. Lol
which one is basically the tabloid?
If anything, people need to recognize that W was the farthest thing from being a yokel cowboy. That was just his image for election. He was a prep school kid, an ivy league male cheerleader, and an heir to a family with deep fortune and connections. W couldn't think on his feet very fast, but he was just as devious as the rest.
The myth created by Ronald Reagan to gain voter support to gut social programs, despite the fact that they overwhelmingly go to white households.
I consider the offerings of both places to be low end, so if I have to have one of them, I will take the 5.99 buffet that comes with the breadsticks and salad too.
That would be the Post. Although, the Daily News isn't far off sometimes...
Can we also count mustaches grown by people who can't grow mustaches?
The retcon of the Civil War so that Southerners could ennoble what was, in every way, shape, and form, a war for the right to own people as property.
I know some people in local politics. They will put on their cowboy hat and boots during parades and other functions and nowhere else. This is not Texas; it's in a "small" city of LA County.
A male cheer leader is why he was the wrong choice.WHEN WILL WE LEARN?!?!
It's basically a savings bond, but with much higher returns.
Politically, they pander to the lowest common denominator of people thus making them at least seem like dumb shits, so it's fair and it's funny.
being a male cheerleader is smart. You get to do lots of things to women and they encourage that.
The one edge Pizza Hut has is size. If I'm damn near starving and decide to get Pizza, PH will be my pick. Otherwise I'd go with Papa John's or Domino's.
Between these two, Pizza Hut all day every day.Otherwise, other local places for me.
Mini hotdog crust! I'm probably going to try that soon.I could record it, but 1, recording things is not my cup of tea, and 2, I'm too lazy to do that.
Saying this as a liberal elitist East Coast type but.... man, fuck the South. That confederate pride shit is sickening. The confederacy was a goddamn giant terrorist group that got their asses kicked in the end, and it should be thought of as such. Not only is the confederate flag a symbol of racism and terrorism, but it's a sign of GETTING YOUR ASS KICKED. Racists got their asses whipped--- what's the pride in that?
I dunno if grouping Mexicans in a watchlist like that is gonna fly dude.
danimal already tried that and it looked nasty
That new name ain't working out?
MLB cancelled 60 million All-Star votes!
I can grow an awesome beard so back off!
Well danimal is an idiot and doesn't appreciate terrible eats like I do.
I dunno, I've seen some awesome Mexican mustaches.
They should just cancel the game. It's a farce.
The Indy Colts just put up an AFC Title Game Participant flag and people were like "WTF, you guys got your asses kicked"http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/06/13/indianapolis-colts-defend-much-maligned-afc-finalist-banner/
Mustaches are supposed to go under the nose, not above it.
Sounds about right
I've never liked Domino's. I'm not sure why though.
Cy Acosta would like to have a word with you:http://baseballstaches.tumblr.com/post/23928242018/i-am-on-vacation-this-week-and-relying-on
I was on another site, and someone called me "Tatty". I couldn't handle it, and abandoned "TatR"
What about the integrity of the voting? If the fans want 8 KC Royals to start, let them have it.
And stuffed crust pizza
Heh, I actually loled.
Hahahaha exactly. You're--- racist symbolism aside--- taking pride in taking a fucking historical beating. Jesus Christ South, if anything we should be hanging confederate flags up here in NYC to taunt you guys and let you know what happens if you ever step outta line again.
I don't agree with someone doesn't make them "Barely functioning retards." Ridiculous
So Moe Howard and The Beatles are now terrorists?
The all-star game used to be a novelty attraction when it provided matchups you never used to see. Now, in this day and age of free agency, interleague play, and expanded playoffs, we basically see every matchup we want. The All Star game has outlived its usefulness.
He's actually a connoisseur of most things awful.
They had tons of people watching them, didn't they?
The Christian cross is a symbol of lost too. The savior got his ass whooped and then crucified. Austin did too, bu then he came back and beat the shit out of all of them. What did Christ ever do with his resurrection? Had a last supper. Didn't even have bacon or a threesome I bet.
Moe Howard absolutely. He perpetuated a life of violence and anger and shitty hair.
Yeah I heard that a few days ago.So embarrassing.I suppose it'll remind them that they "caught" Tom Brady's deflated balls or something.
I think that a case could be made for Moe.
It literally took Ole Miss until the 21st century to realize that having a plantation owner on the sidelines as your mascot might not be a good idea. And there was OUTRAGE!I'm from Mississippi, where Robert E. Lee's birthday was celebrated before MLK's, and I'll say this: Davis, Lee, and the whole goddamn Confederate government should've been hanged from a yardarm. Rebels are patriots when they win; they're fucking traitors when they lose.
So do the St Louis Cardinals face a fine or loss of wins for their hacking crap?
Anyone up for a live thread during tonight's ROH PPV?