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Scott,

After hearing news of the passing of Dusty Rhodes, I wondered why Dusty and Hulk Hogan were never intertwined during Rhodes' 1989-91 WWF run? I mean, not even a one time match as tag team partners?

Also, how come Barry Windham's return to the WWF in '89 was not treated as a bigger deal? This was a guy who had just come from being a member of the premiere heel stable in wrestling at the time, and they saddled him with "The Widowmaker" gimmick and treated him as a virtual unknown (even though he was a WWF Tag Champion four years earlier).

Thanks.

Hogan and Dusty ran in different touring circles, as typically Hogan would headline the A-tour and Dusty would headline the C-tour and thus they weren't typically booked on a lot of the same shows.  Plus I'd have to imagine that Hogan wouldn't be super-thrilled about teaming with a guy who would probably overshadow him.  Really, there's no upside for either guy, so I can understand why they never did it.

Yeah, the Windham deal. Barry left a plum gig and probably could have ended up in the front office if he gave a shit, but he just didn't.  It was a bad fit with the WWF and I never understood why he left either, because god DAMN could you imagine the run we would have gotten out of face champion Flair defending against heel challenger Barry Windham in 1989?  It makes me cry thinking about it.  

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  1. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 15, 2015 at 8:40 AM

    Didn't Dusty always say that Magnum TA was a bigger star than Hogan? That might have something to do with Hogan not wanting to work with him.

    In-ring, Dusty was a bad fit for the WWF at that time, anyhow. He couldn't brawl and bleed, and he really never worked like a traditional big man. His style worked down South at least in part because he had guys willing to bump around for him, but WWF heels knew that overselling was a one-way ticket to Jobberville.

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  2. Although I am surprised the WWF never really did a high profile Dusty Rhodes-Hulk Hogan tag team match, there was no real reason to associate the two on a long term basis when they were essentially heading different tours.


    As for Windham, while I had visions in my head for a "Widowmaker" "Heel of the Month" run against Hogan ("Barry Windham is the one who will finally end Hulkamania"), Barry earned a reputation for being a flake. Considering the way he left the WWF the first time, it's surprising they rehired him. He probably would have gotten that house show run against Hogan but he flaked out again. Definitely not someone the WWF should be putting major hype behind.

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  3. Hulk & Dusty vs. Savage & whoever woulda been all sorts of fun on Saturday Night's Main Event.

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  4. Scott's right about how hot Windham was when he left the NWA in 1989. People just forget because his WWF run was so lackluster and the rest of his career after that just sputtered. The WWF obviously dropped the ball here, as Windham could and should have had a main event run in late 89 or early 90. Maybe even the first challenge for Warrior after WM VI (although I don't see those guys having any chemistry together whatsoever). I think the biggest mistake the WWF made was not giving Windham a manager. Almost every heel in this era had one and as good as Windham was n terms of size, look, and athleticism, promos were his Achilles heel. I think he would have been a natural fit with the Heenan Family but I guess it just wasn't meant to be.

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  5. IIRC, Windham's dad and brother got sent to prison for counter fitting or something like that around the time he was in the WWF. The authorities kept trying to tie him into it as well so he asked for his release so that he could fight the charges.

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  6. Here's a review of a shoot interview with Windham and he talks about why he left.

    http://www.kayfabememories.com/TapeReviews/shootinterviews/windham-2.htm

    "Going to the WWF in 1989-
    He was one of the last guys to get a guaranteed contract, and Jim Herd
    didn't want to deal with him. He knew he wasn't making what other people on top
    were making, and it upset him because he was playing ring general to several
    sub-par workers. He doesn't name names, but says that some very over guys
    couldn't work and you could tell it when they faced each other. Talks about how
    Pat Patterson was living near Tampa at that time and had been talking to him,
    and had said that Vince had forgiven and forgotten about what happened in 1985
    (he says that Vince NEVER forgets, though). He called Vince himself and then
    gave his notice to Jim Herd, citing that Herd wasn't willing to work with him on
    a contract.

    Becoming the Widowmaker-
    Vince said he had a spot for him, so he flew him up to Stamford to discuss it.
    Says that the Widowmaker gimmick was basically his normal self, except his hair
    was slicked back in a ponytail, and that he was named after a famous bull that
    had gored a lot of different cowboys, including some fatalities. He says he was
    in the biggest and best condition of his life at the time, at about 330 pounds,
    and that was what Vince liked, except the gimmick died a quick death because of
    his family's legal troubles.

    Blackjack and Kendall's
    counterfeiting bust- They got arrested in 1989 or early 1990 while Kendall was
    wrestling for WCW and Blackjack was a road agent there. Barry went to Vince and
    convinced him to give him a release to save the company face when the Secret
    Service started trying to tie him into it. Says that Blackjack and Kendall had
    made a mistake in judgement and had trusted the wrong people, and got a minimum
    sentence out of it, but the authorities kept trying to tie him into it. Claims
    it was like being under house arrest because he was constantly harrassed over
    it, but the grand jury didn't indict him, but that the shadow of it was over him
    for about 4 years. He says about how he normally doesn't like to talk about it,
    but that he's being honest and that he only discussed it because it was
    connected to certain career decisions he made."

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  7. Thanks for the background information.

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  8. No prob. It's definitely an interesting story b/c heel Windham in 89 would've been a great IC champ and opponent for guys like Hogan and Warrior.

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  9. Andre, Haku, Rude, Windham, the Busters (for a while) sounds pretty badass.

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  10. Also, apparently in the early 90's Barry married some chick in Atlanta who was loaded so he was basically a kept man and lost a lot of his motivation for the business.

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  11. Isn't the Widowmaker a pretty bad-ass name?

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  12. Fuck Dusty then, Barry lived the American dream

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  13. How in the hell would Dusty overshadow Hulk? Maybe to a handful of circa 1991 smarks he could but the rest of us aren't gonna take the dancing fat guy in polkadots seriously in any circumstance that involves Hulk Hogan.

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  14. The two did wrestle in Japan a few times in 1980, baby. But it was be-four Hogan really got into the Hulkamania baby. Because it was hard times, baby and you don't even know what hard times even is, baby.

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  15. Hopefully Dusty's passing doesn't mean the return of Reo Rodgers.

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  16. I was always remember Windhams highly competitive match up with Tito Santana. It was great.

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  17. 1989 Survivor Series would have been the place to do it but Hogan/Jake/Demolition is my all time favorite babyface team.

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  18. Yeah, but I don't know if it's just one belt on one show and one on the other.

    I think Cena and Rollins may both be A show and Roman might be B show.

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  19. Overshadow might be strong, but Hogan wasn't quite as hot by 1991, and whenever I watch polka-dot Dusty videos I'm surprised by how over he managed to get himself.

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  20. Worst_in_the_WorldJune 15, 2015 at 9:38 AM

    I dunno man, Tito was a much bigger deal than Dolph relatively. I'd say Dolph is Koko, Ambrose is Tito.

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  21. Dusty's WWF run sometimes gets mocked but it was awesome. He worked with Bossman, Savage, and DiBiase and, as he's said, he's took that run to the pay window. He was over, making money, and working with great talent. Was he doing gory 40 minute cage matches with Flair? No. But the man was getting paid and was incredibly popular.

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  22. "Saddled" with the Widowmaker gimmick? I disagree with that terminology. I thought the gimmick had a ton of potential.

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  23. Too bad. Windham is on my list of guys who I wished had gotten a proper chance to be a huge star.

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  24. The line of thinking at the time was that Magnum was their ace in the hole to counter-program Hulkamania. JCP's biggest problem, though, was not having the production values or marketing acumen that Vince had.

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  25. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 15, 2015 at 10:05 AM

    Windham & Luger doing a wild blowoff to their feud, then joining forces as heels to dominate the company post-Horsemen. Windham & Luger vs Flair & Sting. Flair vs Windham, Luger vs Sting at Starrcade 89. Then the Andersons returned early 90 so that would have been kind of awesome timing. They can either back Flair & Sting or tease those guys joing BW and Lex as a bew Flairless Horsemen crew

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  26. Dusty was great, but there was no way that he was overshadowing Hulk Hogan.

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  27. CruelConnectionNumber2June 15, 2015 at 10:16 AM

    Do people realize that 1988-89 NWA was losing boatloads of money and drawing houses in the hundreds and was pretty much the modern TNA? Now the shows were good, sometimes, especially 1989 NWA, but to say Barry Windham was some major star and a member of a "premiere" group... it would be like Booker T coming to WWE and the announcers selling him as a "Main Event Mafia" member. NWA didn't mean shit to mainstream fans unless it involved Flair, and even he wasn't in the league of Hulk, Andre, Savage, etc.

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  28. CruelConnectionNumber2June 15, 2015 at 10:18 AM

    Great promos, awful matches.

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  29. CruelConnectionNumber2June 15, 2015 at 10:19 AM

    It's GFW. Spell check the rest.

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  30. I think that was more to do with bad business than bad product.

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  31. Well I think he's exaggerating a bit by comparing '89 WCW to TNA. But the company definitely was not in very good shape, so it can hardly be a surprise that anyone would leave.

    Also regarding getting a job in the front office: while Windham was working in the front office for a while - wasn't that in part because he was Dusty's protege? Once Dusty was gone a permanent front office job may not have seemed as possible.

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  32. Oprah NoodlemantraJune 15, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Sheamus is a CAW minus the tattoos. Hell, his move set has far too many "signature" big power moves even before the kick.

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  33. Some of JCP's financial issues were due to Vince

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  34. Windham was always a flaky dude. He would just up and leave when the feeling hit. He still stuck around for 20+ years. He had a nice career

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  35. I'm not sure about that.

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  36. CruelConnectionNumber2June 15, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    The point was "why Windham coming in wasn't a big deal" and the reply was because Windham wasn't a big deal due to where he was.

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  37. CruelConnectionNumber2June 15, 2015 at 10:38 AM

    WCW '93 was more TNA, I'd say that. The company was expected to close down by January 1994.

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  38. Windham came in as a mid-card heel, thus the lack of hype. In 1989, nobody, with the exception of Savage, could hang with Hulj in terms of charisma.

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  39. Agreed. Dusty was the only guy around at that time with the pure babyface charisma of Hogan. And Dusty was not the type to allow himself to be portrayed as the "sidekick" member of a team.

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  40. Not sure he said that Magnum "was" a bigger start than Hogan: but more that he thought he "could have" been a bigger star if he hadn't had his accident.

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  41. I guess Perfect and Honky didn't get the message about overselling. Seemed to work out okay for them.

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  42. A dusty/hogan tag team would have rocked the world. Bionic elbow into the leg drop and the place would have gone nuts

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  43. It's 1989 and Hulk Hogan is on top of the WWF. There is nothing else in wrestling that overshadows that.
    Maybe in a few specific NWA markets, but never on the whole.

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  44. I'm sure Dusty meant Magnum was a bigger star in the south

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  45. Disagree. Dusty was a better talker, better worker, had more charisma and was more relatable to the fans.

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  46. It wasn't so much the gimmick itself as it was ignoring his history, accomplishments and existence prior to the gimmick

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  47. Weird then, if he was such a force of nature, that Dustymania wasn't running wild in the first place.
    I liked the guy, and I don't intend to disrespect him, but to say that he's overshadowing Hogan is just silly.

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  48. Yeah, Dusty would have gotten a better reaction in southern shows than he did in places like NY, but Hogan was gonna get a champion's reaction regardless.

    They didn't ever team or work together, I always assumed, because they were both faces, Dusty was never portrayed as being anywhere near Hulk's level and Hulk had no real incentive to go out of his way to give Dusty that boost.

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  49. It was definitely a swerve. They have a history of doing it. Remember when Jericho was the clear choice to win the rumble, but he didn't.

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  50. I can only imagine the belts going back to Brock. Rollins (through little fault of his own) has bombed so I reckon they are ready to go back to a face and they don't have many options.


    I see Brock winning and being given the ultra win by destroying Rollins and then destroying a cashing in Sheamus straight after.


    If that's the case - and it would be enjoyable as we all love Brock - will there ever, ever be a pay off to the invincible Brock storyline?

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  51. I agree with this, but to say Crockett was doa without Turner, and comparing it to tna is silly. They were still drawing $100,000 houses.

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  52. Yeah, i always saw it as barry following Dusty, out the door.

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  53. "God DAMN could you imagine the run we would have gotten out of face champion Flair defending against heel challenger Barry Windham in 1989? It makes me cry thinking about it"

    What do you do with funk then? Make the story shorter, don't bring him in at all.

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  54. Definitely. It annoys me when people do that "nobody cares about him, everybody thinks he sucks!" thing that the original e-mailer did. I always think, "dude, you don't speak for me. Shut up."

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  55. They're Daniel Bryan-ing Reigns. By having him lose to someone that would get obvious backlash, they hope that Sheamus will come out tonight on Raw to Roman Reigns chants.

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  56. Yes. But most of the actual in-ring product in the 88-90ish era was awful save for some Savage matches.

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  57. I'm actually surprised the WWF never had Hogan and Rhodes team for a few house shows in the areas of the south where they traditionally had a hard time drawing.

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  58. He had a decent career, but you always felt he could have done more.

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  59. Man, this email really hits a lot of the Super-Smark bullshit. Saying that 'nobody' cares about something, x-pac heat, saying something is the worst EVER!

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  60. I have to agree. Dusty was a legend, but he's not overshadowing Hogan in 1989.

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  61. I'm going to take a wild stab and say that Windham went because of money. That's totally a wild, out-of-the-woods guess though. Total speculation.


    Of course at this second the mark in in is lost in how awesome a SNME Hogan/Flair vs. Savage/DiBiase tag match would have been in 1990.

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  62. they should have done this! i can just imagine the theme, "he a-merrr-IH-cah-dre e e e eam" then guitar riff kicks in from Real America

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  63. Crockett was robbed blind by poor accounting practices along with poor crowds due to aggressive touring outside the core territories. They had great ratings and a dedicated network. Nothing like TNA.

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  64. I guess Hogan learned his lesson teaming with the Crusher in Milwaukee.

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  65. My prediction (I made last night): Sheamus loses in a sneaky cash-in attempt, becoming the first guy to do so. Like the night Roman wins the belt in a (figurative) bloodbath, and has the belt burnish selling like he's dead. Sheamus comes out to cash-in and everyone groans like he's gonna win. And instead Roman spears the shit out of Sheamus and beat him. So roman wins the belt AND successfully defends the title for the first time all in the same night. That'll be like historic or some shit!!!

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  66. Not to mention the asinine decision to move the JCP offices out of Atlanta after they bought out Watts. They were hemorrhaging money in travel costs between Oklahoma and the Carolinas. Anyone saying that the NWA stars weren't still very credible in 1988-89 probably wasn't watching wrestling at the time.

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  67. Well it was running theme last night:
    - how did Ryback winning over 'Show by DQ help anyone?
    - how the Diva clsuter help anyone?
    - Owens proably wasn't damaged but if Cena had put him over twice he'd be really made.

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  68. Reigns wins the briefcase, cuts a promo about how he's not a heel who is going to cash-in when someone is vulnerable (like the current shitty champion did), and declares he wants to cash-in for a one on one match at Summerslam.

    That would work for a babyface.

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  69. Sheamus, Big Show, Kane, and Reigns all deserve it.

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  70. They teamed Hogan with Warrior and JYD in one-offs...They could have done a one-time Hogan/Dusty team. The elbow drop/leg drop combo would have broken the internet in 1990 if such things existed for human consumption at that time.

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  71. When idiots at the gym show up to jog in jeans, I can't imagine that isn't the most uncomfortable thing ever.

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  72. I don't mean taking his spot or anything. I'm talking about operating him during a promo or something

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  73. ECW was still drawing great houses when they went out of business.

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  74. Calm down Dunkin Donuts Guy.

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  75. My theory, reposted from last night: They're going to try something experimental and have Sheamus cash-in during some non-PPV, WWE Network-exclusive program in order to really push Network buys. ("Hey, you have to have WWE Network otherwise you'll miss something major!")

    If Reigns had the briefcase, they'd only have him cash it in at a PPV or on RAW because they want Reigns' first title win to be a really big deal "WrestleMania moment" type of thing. But Sheamus is just right to try something new that may or may not get over.

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  76. Yeah, if you think that Dusty was going to out pop Hulk Hogan at WWF shows in 1989, you may want to have your head examined.

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  77. New handle, same chromosomal redundancy.

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  78. The WWF never acknowledged people's history outside of the WWF.

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  79. Your handle is the same.

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  80. The wit on this guy!!

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  81. Well, if it's a dick sucking you're after...

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  82. The tits on this guy!!!!

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  83. CruelConnectionNumber2June 15, 2015 at 12:40 PM

    They were taking out loan after loan from Turner and TBS just to pay travel expenses. Those great houses were irrelevant how deep in the red they were. Just like TNA doing any PPV revenue.

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  84. CruelConnectionNumber2June 15, 2015 at 12:41 PM

    Why would they promote his history as a USA-loving good guy babyface in 1985 when he was coming in as an evil Texas asskicker?

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  85. He wouldn't have out popped him but be would have taken more of the spotlight than either Hulk or Vince was willing to share.

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  86. Adam "Colorado" CurryJune 15, 2015 at 12:48 PM

    Eat shit.

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  87. I was thinking the last thing you said, too. The WWF obviously wanted Windham enough to lure him away. They tried to get Flair the previous year, too.

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  88. Other than Race and Flair and Dusty and Kerry Von Erich.


    But yes, never.

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  89. There really wasn't any gimmick, though. He was a dude named the Widowmaker. No further explanation was given about who he was.

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  90. Fast Eddie AlbertJune 15, 2015 at 1:20 PM

    In hindsight, Reigns winning only made sense if the plan was for Ambrose to win the title followed by Reigns turning on him and cashing in.
    I think the gameplan seems to be for Reigns to win the title either at Summerslam or WrestleMania.
    I'll say they have Reigns finally win the title at Summerslam just because they can't possibly think it's a good idea to have Reigns win the Rumble again.
    Have Brock come back tonight leading to Rollins-Brock at Battleground. Have that end in some kind of non-finish followed by a rematch at Summerslam where Reigns gets inserted into the match somehow followed by Reigns pinning Rollins to win the title and Brock not winning because Sheamus or Rusev or Wyatt or whoever his next feud is with runs in and attacks him right as he has Rollins beat.

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  91. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY1_RWvTtUg

    The wrestler who made Milwaukee famous, BABAY!!!

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  92. Fast Eddie AlbertJune 15, 2015 at 1:23 PM

    I'm assuming they'll eventually have either Charlotte or Sasha Banks debut and be the one to finally get the title off the Bellas.
    Hell, they should have Banks debut like Owens and say her title is more important than the Divas title or something.

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  93. Flair vs. Windham after the Funk war

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  94. JCP moved their offices to Dallas

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  95. My bad on the location, but the point is exactly the same.

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  96. Fast Eddie AlbertJune 15, 2015 at 1:28 PM

    If the game plan was to have a mid-level heel win the case and make it their gimmick, they should have went with Kofi. Especially since then they could keep up the Freebird rule thing now that the tag titles are off them.
    Though I think I figured out why they randomly switched the tag titles. They've been building up Harper and Rowan as monsters lately so they probably just switched them over to a face team so they can get the titles on Harper and Rowan.

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  97. They would have lost less money by being in Atlanta than Dallas

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  98. Yup, that's exactly what I'm saying. I just mistakenly wrote that they moved to Oklahoma instead of Dallas.

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  99. Crockett should have kept his offices in Charlotte

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  100. They were in the red, but part of that is from Vince screwing with Crockett's first two PPVs

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  101. And they wouldn't be wrong either.

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  102. Even Piper and Hogan teamed a few times in 86, 87, and 92.

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  103. He was basically JYD.

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  104. Yeah you couldn't watch wwf tv without hearing Vince go on and on about how dusty and Harley were multiple time nwa champions. Too many Bavarian Cremes today?

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  105. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 15, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    Pay off the Luger-Windham US title feud over the course of "Chi-Town Rumble '89", "Wrestlewar" and maybe a Clash for the rubber match. If Lex is still going heel, do the Luger-Steamer US title match at "Bash '89", underneath Flair-Funk for the NWA Title.


    For Bash '89, Windham can: 1.) Go away for a minute after the Luger feud. 2.) Get worked into the WarGames match there. 3.) Face Sting for the TV title (while Muta beats someone like Pillman to stay undefeated, instead of the Sting job).


    Blow off the Flair-Funk feud at a Clash, after the GAB, if the feud must continue. If not, maybe have Windham make a "save" for Flair against Funk. Windham "injures" Funk (to get him out of the way), then immediately turns on Flair to set him up as Flair's next challenger and tie in their Horsemen history.


    Once Luger goes heel, have him and Windham start seeing eye-to-eye now that Lex has embraced his dickhead nature. Luger & Windham reunite as a heel tandem. At the next Clash, Sting defends the TV title against Muta (for the first time, in this case), with Luger/Windham costing Sting the belt. This provokes Sting aligning with Flair eventually.


    Lex Luger & Barry Windham vs. Sting & Ric Flair at "Halloween Havoc '89" in the cage.


    At "Starrcade '89", run Flair vs. Windham for the NWA Title, with Luger vs. Sting for the US Title. Muta is still undefeated, as TV champ (defending against someone like Eddie Gilbert?).


    Run title re-matches at "Wrestlewar" and maybe even "Capital Combat", with the returning Andersons bringing some tweener intrigue. Will Arn/Ole align with Flair out of loyalty? Or will they team with Windham & Luger as their own Horsemen unit without Flair?

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  106. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 15, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    Agreed. Unfortunately NWA was a non-factor to me as a young mark, until I started getting to see WCW programming in 1990/91.

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  107. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 15, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    Absolutely. As a Hulkamaniac in 1989, Dusty was just a mid-card level guy. Teaming them up would have been fun, but no way in hell does anyone overshadow Hulk at that point

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  108. Yup, Vince going on and on about title histories is exactly what I said. You're right, those guys I mentioned were treated as rookies and "never" had their pre-WWF histories acknowledged on commentary. Right on, as usual.

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  109. Fat, Ugly Inner-City SweathogJune 15, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    They both even wore yellow, brother!

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  110. Not all of us were smart back then. Flair carried that promotion on his back and was the "real" promotion of the two. Even in the down period.

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  111. I'm ... I'm ... Speechless.

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  112. It looks like on history of wwe that dusty and hulk were on the same card more often than not. Does anyone know anything about their behind the scenes relationship, if there was one?

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  113. That was an insane promo! Loved it!

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  114. Those coked-up promos they cut in 1992 are a thing of beauty.

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  115. You should change your name to The Straw Man Guy. Who also loves dunkin donuts.

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  116. Pretty sure you don't know what "Straw Man" means. Either that, or you really enjoy irony.

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  117. That was absolutely amazing. Wow.

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  118. Nobody has ever done less with more than Barry Windham.

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  119. I'm convinced they just drew the name of who will win mitb and decide how they'll book him afterwards.

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  120. It kept everone in their place.

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  121. Shame we never got the 'Taker and 'Maker team-up.

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  122. Self awareness is not your strong suit.

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  123. Yeah, who needs accuracy?

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  124. To be honest, the lineup to MITB managed to be the most uninspiring I've ever seen. Three former winners, among them two multiple world title winners who've been around for a combined 35+ years, a career midcarder, Lex Luger in training and some rookie I've never heard of. Might as well be Sheamus, given that dreck. At least he hasn't been around for a while.

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  125. Cena and Sandow lost their matches.

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  126. To be fair, if Neville is "some rookie you've never heard of" given the last several weeks of his featuring prominently in matches against Rollins, Cena, and Steen then you're probably not watching all that much and likely not in the demo they're trying to appeal to.

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  127. This is where the WWE misses the benefits of the converyor belt promos. Put a wrestler, with his logo on the green screen behind him, in front of a camera...talking directly to that camera, explaining what's been going on with him and why he's going to beat whoever he's facing (or win whatever he's trying to win.)

    Instead of giving Sheamus the chance to say "Yeah, it's true. I lost at Elimination Chamber. But nothing is going to stop me from grabbing that briefcase tonight"--which, simple as it is, gives people a sense of continuity and gives characters motivation based on past results and current feuds--what they do is assume that every fan has an Etch-a-Sketch for a brain and that nothing that has ever happened matters as long as occasionally they just shake things up a little.

    They're wrong.

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  128. Wait, your coworker got fired over her boobs, or her coworker?

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  129. I guess in between AWA stints and retirement, Crusher took a one match deal or something.

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  130. What the hell are these "C" shows Scott is talking about?

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  131. Has there EVER been a more WTF decision than Sheamus winning MITB?



    Sheamus winning the Royal Rumble.

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  132. I would have just wrote "some rookie that didnt stand a chance".

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  133. The proper saying is "hot as balls", which everyone knows is shorthand for "when it's so fucking hot your balls stick to your leg and cause chaffing."

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  134. Sandow already lost an unannounced cash in.

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  135. I had to read that a few times this morning, but laughed my ass off when I got it.

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  136. I may be alone, but I kinda like Sheamus winning and thought he made the most sense other than Roman. He's over as a heel, has a pretty cool character, and I dig the fact that he actively cheats and tries to get heat during matches, unlike some heels.

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