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Sheamus...WTF

Has there EVER been a more WTF decision than Sheamus winning MITB?  I'm serious, he was the last man anyone would've picked to win. Look at the other options:
With heel champion Rollins you have
- Neville - plucky NXT new-gen babyface who could easily survive a loss in a 20+ min main event
- Kofi - hell the freebird-style New Day MITB would be hilarious and of course he'd lose
- Dolph - see Neville
- Orton - so much main event cred, he would give Rollins a big clean win
- Kane - at least would've sense from a storyline perspective
- Roman - DUH.
Sheamus is fresh off losing to Ryback (!) in the Chamber and splitting a feud with Dolph before a few crappy TV matches with Orton. Nobody cares about him as a heel or face, he's almost X-Pac heat, so you kill the whole concept because him running out will draw groans, not boos.  Can you think of anything that made less sense than this?

​Well, I mean, Damien Sandow won the briefcase that one year, don't forget.  I wouldn't call it the most cuckoo-bananas decision of all time or anything because at least Sheamus is a former champion and Rumble winner and such, but he just doesn't fit into the main event puzzle, like at all.  And as you noted, why have him lose the IC title match to Ryback and then come back and win the case?  Unless they just wanted to swerve everyone because Reigns winning would be too predictable.  But in this case, it's predictable because IT MAKES SENSE.  Sheamus does not.  ​


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  1. It's an odd choice, but a lot can change between now and whenever they decide to pull the trigger on a cash-in. Maybe the end result is everyone finally gets a Lesnar-Sheamus feud that people have wanted to see.


    I'm kind of OK with them keeping Reigns away from the case...I think it works better with a heel anyway. I think they've done such a good job rehabbing Reigns as a babyface since Mania that turning him would be counterproductive at this point.

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  2. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks it's a troll move. Oh you don't want super obvious winner Reigns winning it? We'll give you the only winner that'll piss you off more. Aside from the finish though I thought the MITB match was great

    It did look ridiculous having him win it then running the footage of Ryback beating him immediately after.

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  3. Saying he has "X-Pac" heat is overstating it.

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  4. Yeah but his new entrance is great.

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  5. It's 2015...aren't we over that myth yet?

    There is no "X-Pac Heat". Heat is heat.

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  6. Agreed. You know what X-Pac heat really is? Everyone sitting there quietly. That's when you know they aren't into you.

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  7. Vince just visualizes in running in and Brogue Kicking someone.

    Also Sheamus wouldn't be a bad transitional champ if you write yourself into a corner, which they could very easily due trying to juggle this whole Rollins/Reigns/Lesnar thing over the next couple months.

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  8. Cena vs Orton,one more timeJune 15, 2015 at 7:09 AM

    Only if you suck my dick.

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  9. Meltzer said Vince makes a lot of these MITB decisions last minute.


    He said the Sandow one, for instance, was made hours before the match and he immediately regretted it the day after and promptly buried him.


    It's just an old man's whims.

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  10. To me, Sheamus is slightly better than Orton, who absolutely does not need the briefcase.


    I can't believe I'm saying this, but an interesting angle would have been Kane winning with the whole concept being him hoarding the briefcase and protecting his corporate champion Rollins from having to deal with a cash-in. That would have been the time to go with the "will Kane turn on Rollins?" deal, since there would be actual stakes involved, instead of the time-killing nonsense we got last month.

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  11. Alright, I didn't want him to win but saying Kane would have been a better choice is incorrect.

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  12. Sandow winning it actually made sense because, at the time, he was an up-and-comer and it wasn't crazy to see him winning one of the world titles.

    Sheamus was actually my second pick out of the field if Roman didn't win it because they always want to try to make him a big-time player.

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  13. If you remember that field, it was going to be either him or Cody. The WHC title picture wasn't setting the world on fire by any means.

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  14. X-Pac heat, originally, was booing a guy you don't like because of his performance. Disinterest had nothing to do with it. Specifically, go back to Invasion. Everyone hated X-Pac so much, not because of his character but because of is performance, that they booed him when he was a babyface and cheered the WCW-heel Kidman.


    It's changed, since, I guess.

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  15. Sheamus has been around for what, five years now? They've had him feud with Triple H, squash Daniel Bryan, win the Royal Rumble and come out with a stupid haircut, so this is the latest (and probably last) in the progression of trying to get him over. All will be forgotten when he jobs in two weeks at Battleground.

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  16. Also strange considering he helped fuck up Daniel Bryan in their Smackdown match

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  17. Yeah, I think it's just the way he's been used. The character is good, but the kiss my ass feud with Ziggler, and then being thrown in the black hole of the IC Title hunt.


    Like, if Sheamus was getting the pre-Cena Rusev push, people would be more into him.

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  18. This. Sheamus/Lesnar is a fresh match and could be fun as balls.

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  19. Why are balls fun?

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  20. No, he didn't. Bryan cut his head on a bump to the outside that could have happened to anyone for any reason. Sheamus didn't do anything there that countless other guys haven't done countless other times.

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  21. Sheamus sucks and needs to go away, like to GFW.

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  22. Is the idea to have the main event be so boring Reigns looks good by comparison?

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  23. Eh, I don't hate him that much. And no one deserves that fate.

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  24. There's all sorts of games you can play with them. Like Football or baseball or Soccer.


    Then there's the more intimate games to play with a lover or a group of close friends after some wine.

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  25. is it time for Ambrose to ditch the jeans and wife-beater look?

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  26. There is nothing "plucky" about Dolph Ziggler. Him winning would've been worse than Sheamus.

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  27. It's time for everyone ever to do that.

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  28. Yes, I think he's going for a casual look but it looks very uncomfortable.

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  29. Sheamus having it now probably won't affect anything short term. I'm guessing this will be tied into the "Big Fall Angle."

    Either way Sheamus feels completely reinvigorated as a heel with the new music and look.

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  30. It's not the end of the world him winning, but it does look kinda dumb after they showed him losing to Ryback later in the show.

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  31. Doesn't it feel kind of weird that we're waiting a whole five weeks til the next PPV?

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  32. I think it was just stalking waiting for an opening for him. He will probably float around for a while still. Not everything had to be immediate. Worst case scenario he gets an awkward Del Rio run.

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  33. Yeah. They'll probably spend a couple more months with him aimless but kind of badass.

    Worst case scenario he's Del Rio in 2011.

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  34. Oi'm abowt t'takeawver da sex soided rang, fella!"

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  35. He's a very good power wrestler but his booking, like so many others, is stupid. He comes back after a hiatus with a new look and a heel turn (definitely the right move). He then starts beating on guys but then they start-stop his push so he loses all momentum.

    They do this to guys all the time so it's hard to give a shit about them.

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  36. I'm having a tough time continuing to like Dolph. The 80s hair metal look isn't doing it for me either

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  37. I'm really intrigued for witw today because I think there's a good chance he actually defends Reigns and says he should have went over last night

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  38. And for the record Sheamus isn't even close to WTF decisions WWE has done.

    Top of my head:

    Batista 2014 Rumble winner
    Long Del Rio reign during Summer of Punk
    18 Second Bryan match at WM28
    Jack Swagger, World Title contender
    Triple H over Sting
    Mark Henry over Ryback
    Curtis Axel over Triple H via concussion

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  39. As garbage as Reigns has been in this role, he really should have won.

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  40. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 7:39 AM

    Meh. Sheamus winning it isn't the end of the world, as this emailer seems to think it is. When he cashes in, he's more than likely going to lose it. When Sandow won it, it had "failed cash in" written all over it. So does this one.

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  41. I'm a fan of Roman. The story is right there because Seth used his briefcase to screw over Roman.

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  42. It's different. I like that about it.

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  43. Vengeance 2005.

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  44. He doesn't even look like a metal fan. More like a One Direction fan.

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  45. I think we're WAY past the point where the lack of long-term booking decisions should surprise us.

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  46. It's really tricky here. I floated an admittedly silly idea that the briefcase is like a bearer bond and some face (Ambrose) could steal it and cash in. That would be more fun that GOD DAMMIT PAL YOU WILL LIKE SHEAMUS GOD DAMMIT TAKE IT ALL YOU KNOW YOU LIKE IT,

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  47. The problem with Sheamus winning is the problem they have just in general with their product today.

    IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE DONE LATELY. Sheamus lost just 2 weeks earlier, and also lost against Ziggler at his first PPV back. I remember watching Elimination Chamber and practically right after Sheamus lost they announced him in the Money in the Bank match. That makes no sense. Why does he earn that right? The What kind of threat is he when he wins at a 50/50 rate?

    When he came back and they made him a hot heel and he plows through everyone in front of him and takes the briefcase, I get that.

    From a kayfabe standpoint, why should Kofi be in the match? He has been in tags for months, doesn't seem like someone that should earn that right. I like Neville, but no reason he should be in the match. He debuted a few months ago and has lost frequently. In turn the audience does not buy them in the match. They existed just to do some jumps.

    You actually have to push these guys. Sheamus will come out and brag about his briefcase for as long as he has it, he will probably still lose a lot on the way to cashing in and then when he does cash in he will have zero momentum and if he happens to win then he will be a non-credible champion with no heat and if he were to lose then he will be just another jobber and back to the endless mid-card he will go.

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  48. I think WWE has a problem, and it is a good one, in that they view the ENTIRE upper midcard as equals. They can all beat each other or lose to each other.

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  49. What isn't fun about them?

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  50. Maybe we could call that Tensai Heat.

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  51. I lost all interest in Sheamus when he stopped having music I could mock.

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  52. Judy Bagwell, 2-time World Tag-Team Champion.


    I rest my case, your honor.

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  53. Jeopardy question for the final entry:


    "Who are 13 people less over than The Big O"?

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  54. Cena vs Orton,one more timeJune 15, 2015 at 7:51 AM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpZ6yUrCGoE



    Man, HHH has gone soft.

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  55. To be fair to Gingorilla, he did replace it with an 80s sci fi haircut.

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  56. Two time? I don't remember the second reign.

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  57. 1) Rare time where I'm actually looking forward to see what happens on RAW. I'll still probably fast-forward the shit out of it, but it's a start.


    2) That didn't take long. I think they even announced it during the show last night if I remember correctly.


    3) Here's to hoping the time I invest in watching TE won't be immediately wasted again like the first revival a few years ago.

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  58. Your body probably shut down to protect itself.

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  59. It's just an old man's whims.

    Then. Now. Forever.

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  60. Silent Rage is living up to his name! Silently!

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  61. God, was that guy a douche or what?

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  62. First is still first.


    And I shall reap the rewar-


    oh.

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  63. Cena vs Orton,one more timeJune 15, 2015 at 7:53 AM

    Reigns vs Wyatt: "My dad is better than your dad!"

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  64. Wyatt to Reigns: "Which Samoan was that again? They all look alike to me."

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  65. You're lucky I wasted time fixing a typo!

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  66. My mind can't process the concept of Judy Bagwell losing.

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  67. I'm not paying attention to the Tough Enough thing, but are fans voting from the 40 to the 13 or something?

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  68. Two guys facing each other who have been booked to never win big and are always on the losing end. Gee, I am really looking forward to that matchup.

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  69. Yeah, a major problem is their theory that having some kind of title, be it a championship, briefcase or King of the Ring makes you able to maintain credibility despite consistently losing.

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  70. Ehh...The end was pretty flukey

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  71. Vendetta was awful, but it was a lot of fun. Big Show is great. The movie doesn't even try to make any sense

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  72. They've got almost as many "titles" now as they had during the Invasion.

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  73. Getting kicked in them?

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  74. Five weeks to build Battleground, which is generally the worst B show PPV of the year. It's like bizarro Payback.

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  75. I do think that Ambrose getting up from the powerbombs was a bit silly. After having his leg worked on in the early match, and then getting killed late on the outside, he sure was energetic.

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  76. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 7:58 AM

    Is this the thread I come to when I want to find people who take their girlfriends seriously and don't understand the concept of a joke, no matter how poorly worded? Or people who overanalyze crowd chants?

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  77. Does it make more or less sense than that time Sheamus won the Royal Rumble? Because that was pretty senseless too.

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  78. The MitB holder always loses until cashing in.

    In a sense, Kane was the smartest of all the winners.

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  79. It's the thread you come to where all other posters root for a baseball team better than your own!

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  80. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 7:59 AM

    Read the comments on Scott's review.

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  81. Senseless? It led to the creation of mega-superstar Daniel Bryan.

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  82. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM

    That's every post.

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  83. Noticed that Hanley Ramirez has a negative WAR?

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  84. The Old Man's Whims is my favorite non-existent Hemmingway novel.

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  85. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:01 AM

    That's the least of his problems.


    1. Lazy
    2. Unmotivated
    3. Overpaid
    4. Lazy
    5. Overpaid.

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  86. Someone needs to photoshop a Brazzers logo over Brie flashing her crotch to Paige

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  87. Sounds like the guy. He's been like this for like 8 years or something now right?

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  88. They finally found a way to get the online fans to root for Reigns: Give the briefcase to Sheamus.

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  89. Well then clearly you know which thread you do those things in.

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  90. Yeah that's really surprising and Kung Fu Panda has been a disaster.

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  91. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:02 AM

    yeah. That signing was a headscratcher. It had to be a favor to David Ortiz.

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  92. I like the Cat stating the Cena/Owens match, the match he admits not watching, was overrated.

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  93. This is the thread to come to to read my half-assed attempts at wit and sarcasm.

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  94. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:03 AM

    Enough with your making sense and stuff.

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  95. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:03 AM

    You really tried your best in that thread. I applaud your vigilance.

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  96. It's like Vince Jordan but Vince would say that the booking to the Bella and Paige match was marvelous without watching it.

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  97. Battleground, or "Shit, we've still got another month to fill before Summerslam".

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  98. The Panda is a bit weird. He doesn't seem like he would be good, but he is. I just get the feel that Boston pressure is screwing him up. Or lack of SF foods or something random like that.

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  99. Big Titties WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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  100. It's been a pretty bad show on back to back years.

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  101. I was in the zone, man. The hoop looked like a swimming pool.

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  102. Cena vs Orton,one more timeJune 15, 2015 at 8:05 AM

    $500 million opening weekend for Jurassic World...fuck me.

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  103. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:05 AM

    Boston is a whole different animal than SF. It's the reason why a lot of guys put them in their "do not trade" clauses.

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  104. Random thought.


    I believe that if my cats knew how close they came to death every morning around feeding time with their incessant meowing, THEY'D SHUT THE FUCK UP.


    Yeah. Take that, Stranger. Categorize that post.


    :-P

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  105. Prediction for the Wyatt/Reigns match: It will be built up on Raw and Smackdown with many 2SPOOKY4U promos from Wyatt where nobody knows what the hell he is talking about. Reigns responds with "Belee dat bbygurl I can and I will." They brawl. Repeat for 5 weeks.

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  106. World opening. Still huge, but I think Avatar will prevail as usual.

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  107. Not counting his pre-Wrestlemania periods, I can't recall a single memorable Dusty Rhodes singles match in the WWF.

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  108. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:07 AM

    I remember the Rhodess vs. DiBiase/Virgil because of the Virgil turn.

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  109. "Don't yabba dabba dooo that, Bray!"

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  110. My roommate says it is TERRIBLE. I won't have a chance to see it myself until later this week.

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  111. ITs the same person as all the gimmick accounts. Same style of fake email address and Europe IP address.

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  112. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:07 AM

    He's from GREECE!

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  113. Like Harley Race, he was pretty much past his physical prime by the time he worked for Vince.

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  114. like that underskill guy?

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  115. Lot more sense. Jericho, the expected winner that year, wasn't a great option and they both got their title shots anyway.

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  116. 1. Find beloved franchise from 80's or 90's.
    2. Who gives a shit what you do, just throw in lots of special effects
    3. Profit!

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  117. Probably, I cant even keep track at this point.

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  118. I just don't see the appeal of this movie. It looks exactly like all the other Jurassic Park movies.

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  119. Good, I can feel your anger. I am defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!

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  120. At least Harley could hang his hat on his SNME match with Hogan.

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  121. What the...so my cats are collectively The Emperor from Star Wars?


    what...wut...huh...


    no.

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  122. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:09 AM

    *shrugs* What did I do?

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  123. Holy crap, that is a turd of a conversation over there.

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  124. True.


    I always wondered what happened, though. Judging from how he moved it looks like his back was getting really bad.

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  125. This is the thread where people take their women too seriously, don't understand jokes, I threaten my cats, and Bruce...yeah, I dunno wtf Bruce Chung is doing.


    #HOSSCONFUSED

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  126. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:11 AM

    Oooooh, OK.


    Fuck you, Hoss.


    And good morning.

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  127. Dusty/Sapphire against Savage/Sherri at WM 6.

    Memorable for a bunch of wrong reasons, but Jesse's commentary makes it a must-watch.

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  128. Ugh, I want to upvote this for accuracy, but I cringed harder than I did when reading anything Meekin wrote.

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  129. WWE has really been like Young and the Restless for over four years now, hasn't it.

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  130. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:12 AM

    Yeah, that one went off the rails pretty quick.

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  131. Why is everyone bringing up NON SINGLES matches?

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  132. This probably has more to do with Sheamus being cast in the tmnt sequel, than anything wrestling related. I mean the Bellas are still a thing because they are stars of total divas. Batista won the royal rumble because he was in GOTG. The Muz still has a job because he was in a wwe movie that one time and Lana is now a thing because she was in a WWE movie and they think she will be a big Hollywood star someday. Vince hates being a wrestling promoter and is always looking for a way out.

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  133. Yeah there's really no other appeal unless they make a dinosaur rom-com.

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  134. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:13 AM

    The Hulk and Iron Man would TOTALLY destroy those dinosaurs in a real fight.

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  135. I remember it for finally getting rid of those dumbass polka dots.

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  136. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 15, 2015 at 8:13 AM

    I don't understand, do they think they're actually fooling anyone with this?

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  137. Melissa McCarthy would play a fat female dino.

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  138. A diminished Harley was still miles ahead of in his prime Dusty. Dusty like always made his money talking them into the building.

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  139. I'd totally pay to see Hulk smash his way out from inside a giant dino.

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  140. Actually the current storyline on Y&R is that Victor Newman made a Hispanic clone of one of the main characters, and now the clone is taking over his life and the real guy was abducted by the mafia.

    Which might make more sense than most WWE storylines.

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  141. HTM is the only one I can think of and even that is a stretch.

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  142. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM

    Something something dinosaur secretions melting down the Hulk blah blah blah real fight.

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  143. Still a better love story than Twilight.

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  144. something something Hulk just gets madder and more powerful something smash.

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  145. Especially the PG-13 sex scenes.

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  146. They seem to think it doesn't matter how often the MITB winner loses before or after winning it, most guys do nothing while carrying around a briefcase until they cash it in.

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  147. I'm thinking it's time for another Neverending Story.

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  148. "West Coast Soft", we call it.

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  149. Dusty was a guy who, even though he was past his prime, wore polka dots, and didn't really have many important feuds in the WWF, came across like a big deal regardless.

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  150. Gotta go with Captain Mike here.

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  151. You could say he had an OK match on SNME against Rick Rude, but it was such a natural clash of styles that it was....interesting.

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  152. Not being allowed to bleed would have been a big handicap for him.

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  153. I saw a billboard today for Jurassic World.

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  154. Well, that was a trying morning.


    Nap time bitches.


    Peace.

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  155. Wow, I suddenly want to watch the young and the restless.

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  156. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 15, 2015 at 8:19 AM

    "xWe get the “This is awesome” chant, which I always hate. Cheer the
    babyface or boo the heel to show your support, but don't break the
    fourth wall like that."

    Or, just go the Japan route and applaud.

    But yeah, "THIS IS AWESOME!" has become really obnoxious and has lost all meaning.

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  157. Jericho was doing a "best in the world vs best in the world" title match and hadn't actually won anything to justify it. He came back to win the Rumble and lost. He got a title match the next month anyway but was knocked out cold in the Chamber, and then he won some throwaway multi-man match on Raw to get the WM title shot. Jericho winning made more sense as his match was supposed to be the bigger deal while Sheamus won in 17 seconds or whatever it was and just pissed everyone off.

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  158. I wish they could do that angle with Stardust. Have Cody Rhodes come back and challenge him.

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  159. That El Debarge song is, anyway.

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  160. Speak of the devil!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF3hUQ0IjX4

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  161. Dusty wasn't exactly moving around with grace even against Flair. Some of his matches in 86-87 he did a lot of lying around in lieu of selling.

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  162. What did Dusty say to the doctor as he was about to shock him with the defibrillator?

    MAKE IT GOOD!

    ...too soon?

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  163. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:21 AM

    Heh. Conference call right now.


    They talked about "overbooking" and I immediately thought of the Attitude Era.

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  164. And only THAT'S notable for Scott's review:

    "HTM punching him in the stomach? You might as well try melting an iceberg with a Bic lighter".

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  165. Vince Russo, general manager of Park Hyatt New York.

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  166. As smart as it was for Reigns to lose at Mania it was equally boneheaded for him to lose last night. Are they hoping he gets face pops because he's a choke artist chump who can never get over the hump? And I don't see a feud with Bray Wyatt, the eater of pushes, doing anything for him.

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  167. Reigns - Wyatt. Nope, still not enticing me to drive twenty minutes to see it. Need better.

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  168. Dusty with a styles clash would be interesting.

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  169. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:23 AM

    He would have people participate in a King of the Mountain match for the last remaining hotel room.

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  170. You trying to say you are not into a feud in which one of the competitors beat the other at the end of a gauntlet match that took place less than three weeks ago?

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  171. That was due to the sheer force of Dusty's charisma.

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  172. That Attitude Era sure got a lot of "mileage" out of Austin!



    HA! See, you work for the State of Texas (I think), whose capital is Austin and you seem to do something related to employee travel!

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  173. Hey, you've discovered Bray's motivation for attacking Roman!

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  174. Bray can pull the Cena promo tactic of "well you didn't beat me three times in a row after running a marathon and being lit on fire so YOU HAVEN'T PROVED ANYTHING!"

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  175. I had forgotten that happened. WWE has become a stream of consciousness farce in many ways.

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  176. If they reference that match it might redeem the pairing somewhat. Somewhat.

    Oh who am I kidding? They'll forget about it and talk about failure or something like that.

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  177. Dollars to donuts that never comes up.

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  178. Stranger In The AlpsJune 15, 2015 at 8:26 AM

    You're correct on the first two, pretty far off from the last one.


    You remember way too much about me. It's a little scary.

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  179. The HHH reign after the Attitude Era had MORE overbooking!

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  180. I'm thinking this is just a misdirection, leading to a Sheamus/Reigns match where Sheamus puts the case on the line (for some reason) and Reigns wins it.

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  181. Speaking of Dusty and polka dots - is there anyone on the current roster that can take a losing gimmick and make it seem huge?

    Maybe Sandow? Maybe Miz?

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  182. Joey Jo-Jo Junior ShabbadooJune 15, 2015 at 8:26 AM

    I've been watching this show on and off for years, and this is the strangest it has ever been. And Peter Bergman making zero effort to differentiate between the two characters makes it even better. He clearly could not give two shits about any of it.

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  183. Why would anyone buy Bray as a threat to Reigns after that though? He already beat two other guys that night after beating Bray, who was fresh. If its treated as a minor holdover fine but if they are trying to make Bray seem like a threat to Reigns, they shouldn't be shocked when no one cares.

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