tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post6239481728795924359..comments2023-10-05T10:40:37.936-06:00Comments on Rantsylvania: The New DayScott Keithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04125091232930805562noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-33094095999735663542015-06-11T13:35:38.778-06:002015-06-11T13:35:38.778-06:00That's right, they were Texas A&M or somet...That's right, they were Texas A&M or something and they were fucking NUCLEAR for her, it was greatBonzaiDBSMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-52494924208783900102015-06-11T11:52:39.498-06:002015-06-11T11:52:39.498-06:00Definitely. I remember one Raw where she was being...Definitely. I remember one Raw where she was being booed so loudly that Cena was close to corpsing in the ring and she literally couldn't get anything out.Mister Thirteennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-43941477021561699332015-06-11T03:49:51.067-06:002015-06-11T03:49:51.067-06:00Edge started it before the hair vs hair stuff.Edge started it before the hair vs hair stuff.buckdiddynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-38744010165926838212015-06-10T15:09:01.655-06:002015-06-10T15:09:01.655-06:00u so mad brou so mad broDougie Mullernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-44756418127446786012015-06-10T15:02:25.241-06:002015-06-10T15:02:25.241-06:00Eh, we'll have to agree to disagree here, in a...Eh, we'll have to agree to disagree here, in an ideal world, I think this viewpoint is more than valid, but I can't blame heels who actually try to be a heel, and end up getting cheered because they are a)more entertaining than the face b)the face acts like a dick, and cheers the heel anyway.chicagodem79noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-22185913091433094962015-06-10T15:01:44.952-06:002015-06-10T15:01:44.952-06:00No, happy, cause you again proved yourself retarde...No, happy, cause you again proved yourself retardedAPmarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-40600618326130990092015-06-10T14:55:15.046-06:002015-06-10T14:55:15.046-06:00If you are a heel and you are getting cheered, and...If you are a heel and you are getting cheered, and your babyface is getting booed, you are not doing your job. That's it.Dougie Mullernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-34760326693121812632015-06-10T14:28:15.996-06:002015-06-10T14:28:15.996-06:00I still don't get why they don't throw Dal...I still don't get why they don't throw Dallas in with New Day, even if he's just the job guy for them. The visual of Dallas coming to the ring in New Day attire, dancing and clapping to Gospel music, while being totally oblivious to what a moron he looks like, would be gold. He'd be like Steve Martin in The Jerk.Fly Academichttp://www.flyacademic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-49903880496359168472015-06-10T14:25:53.043-06:002015-06-10T14:25:53.043-06:00Case in point- Angle was having so much trouble ge...Case in point- Angle was having so much trouble getting heel heat against Cena in 2005/2006 (through no fault of his own), that they had him cut a promo saying he doesn't like black people, he wants to put Jesus in the ankle lock, etc. among other outrageous things- and people STILL cheered him. In fact, that was the point of his promo. Some guys just cannot and will not be booed, no matter what they do. The fans just love them too much.Fly Academichttp://www.flyacademic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-17201287652797664542015-06-10T13:29:41.628-06:002015-06-10T13:29:41.628-06:00Maybe CM Punk should've changed up his moveset...Maybe CM Punk should've changed up his moveset a little more...how much more could he have dialed it down? When the heel is SO good at what he does, that he/she gets cheered (no matter how much he/she tries to be a heel), to me that's more of an indictment of how weak/unlikable a lot of the faces are. If you talk about nWO era heels who tried to get cheered, then I'd agree with you 100%...but today, I think heels are trying to heel (within the PG era limits), it's just the faces are really really terrible, and shoulder some of the blame.chicagodem79noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-66547294123227828432015-06-10T13:22:56.153-06:002015-06-10T13:22:56.153-06:00If you are getting cheered no matter what you do, ...If you are getting cheered no matter what you do, you should not be a heel. If Punk wanted to be a heel, he should have stopped doing things that he knew people liked. Take Jericho. When he came back as a heel, he changed everything. Got rid of everything people liked. That's why it worked. And you can still draw heat as an ass-kicking heel, you just have to be smarter. Having a sniveling manager helps. Heyman keeps Lesnar heel. Or you have to be despicable, like Bully Ray or Owens. But getting cheered just fucks over your babyface, and its hard enough to be a babyface in today's environment.Dougie Mullernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-18611391918299224712015-06-10T13:17:41.736-06:002015-06-10T13:17:41.736-06:00I agree only to an extent though. You're righ...I agree only to an extent though. You're right, a heel that's getting cheered isn't doing his job ultimately. Let's talk about CM Punk, when you take a guy, who's getting cheered just about no matter what he does, is it his fault because he's entertaining? Is it because he's going against bland faces, or faces that act like complete assholes, but still expect the audience to cheer for them? I give Seth Rollins a lot of credit for still drawing heel heat with an entertaining moveset, but he's playing the sniveling heel. If you're a heel with balls (let's take Rusev for instance), he's going to start drawing cheers because he's going against faces who generally suck at drawing good reactions (like Jack Swagger), or 50/50 faces (Cena). And to me, that's better than being a random heel with little to no reaction.chicagodem79noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-51737442407753778202015-06-10T13:09:12.510-06:002015-06-10T13:09:12.510-06:00No. A heel that gets cheered is not only not doin...No. A heel that gets cheered is not only not doing his job, he's fucking up the babyface. At least no reaction gives the babyface a chance. When the heel gets cheered, you're totally fucked. Which is why CMPunk had one of the worst heel runs ever.Dougie Mullernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-10305660699070940032015-06-10T13:07:28.503-06:002015-06-10T13:07:28.503-06:00u mad bro?u mad bro?Dougie Mullernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-62500209682890325282015-06-10T13:03:20.911-06:002015-06-10T13:03:20.911-06:00Just came to point and laugh at you and this comme...Just came to point and laugh at you and this comment. You're ruining your gimmick and showing too much ass by not knowing what the fuck you're talking about.APmarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-74230602827586419322015-06-10T12:33:26.561-06:002015-06-10T12:33:26.561-06:00I agree with a lot of what you say, and I disagree...I agree with a lot of what you say, and I disagree with anyone that says Miz gets X-Pac heat because that isn't true....Miz's problem is that he's very bland in the ring so that's why a lot of his matches don't have a lot of heat. I would take it in another direction, any heel that gets NO reaction is worse than a heel that gets cheered, worse than a heel that's booed. At least a heel that gets cheered has some connection with the fans, vs. the heel who has a reflexive initial boo...then silence throughout.chicagodem79noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-28352398493706023042015-06-10T12:15:51.528-06:002015-06-10T12:15:51.528-06:00Nope. You couldn't be more wrong.Nope. You couldn't be more wrong.Dougie Mullernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-50731896025298128912015-06-10T12:14:12.082-06:002015-06-10T12:14:12.082-06:00There's no Webster's definition for X-pac ...There's no Webster's definition for X-pac heat so at this point it's just two people arguing over a term someone on the internet made up years ago. However, the general understanding of X-pac heat also includes faces. If you paid any attention to the original topic you would notice Rocky and New Day are mentioned as examples of characters that had X-pac heat. They were presented to the crowd as faces and the crowd rejected it.jb619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-74123174869194778852015-06-10T12:00:20.756-06:002015-06-10T12:00:20.756-06:00No. X-pac heat is referring to a heel that people...No. X-pac heat is referring to a heel that people dislike so much that they change the channel. Its not when a babyface gets booed. You have no idea what you're talking about.Dougie Mullernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-9005667874986871512015-06-10T11:58:51.273-06:002015-06-10T11:58:51.273-06:0099% of the time somebody starts talking about x-pa...99% of the time somebody starts talking about x-pac heat, its because its somebody that they personally don't like, so they determine that the booing is what they want it to be. I've seen people try to say that Miz gets x-pac heat, which is hilarious. A heel's job is to be booed. That's what they're there for. If you get booed at all, you're a better heel than a heel that gets cheered.Dougie Mullernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-73636535835706521602015-06-10T11:58:37.693-06:002015-06-10T11:58:37.693-06:00X-pac heat is about people booing because they don...X-pac heat is about people booing because they don't want to see you at all. The original intentions don't mean anything.jb619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-31590432051329595202015-06-10T11:58:37.460-06:002015-06-10T11:58:37.460-06:00The point is, that's not usually what people m...The point is, that's not usually what people mean when they're tlaking about "X-Pac Heat." They're usually talking about somebody whose getting a strong reaction.Kevin Mayfieldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-14341099436833560632015-06-10T11:55:00.674-06:002015-06-10T11:55:00.674-06:00Honest question, so do you feel there's absolu...Honest question, so do you feel there's absolutely no distinction between a heel hated so much that you want to see his ass kicked vs. a heel, who may have an initial (booo he sucks, and then is "so" reviled that people go silent during his match/unengaged with the match at all? I'll give you this, there are very few people that have fit this particular description, but that's Xpac heat to me.chicagodem79noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-31146370133125146202015-06-10T11:42:50.278-06:002015-06-10T11:42:50.278-06:00Rocky Maivia and New Day were also supposed to be ...Rocky Maivia and New Day were also supposed to be facesjb619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3838126259950293862.post-47102818285756083732015-06-10T11:39:28.554-06:002015-06-10T11:39:28.554-06:00That is the dumbest example ever. Binks was suppo...That is the dumbest example ever. Binks was supposed to be liked by people. X-Pac heat is supposed to be when someone is supposed to be hated and they're hated so much that people don't even want to see him lose. Its ridiculous and made up, but your example isn't even fitting the same preface.Dougie Mullernoreply@blogger.com