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Hi Scott,
Suppose you are writing a book on the the great unanswered questions
of wrestling. You are given an infinite amount of Sodium Pentothal and
have the ability to interview anyone involved in wrestling ever. What
are some of the questions you would want to ask and to whom?
As an aside, who would you want to see write a "complete truth"
biography: Undertaker, Vince McMahon, or Jim Ross?
Cheers
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Oh, Vince McMahon by far.  Although I'd rather do it Jack Bauer style with the deal where you're forced to swallow a towel and then have it pulled out of your intestines again.  Far more entertaining that way.  I'd ask what the deal with Randy Savage was, whether he regrets destroying his only competition, and exactly how many times he HAS cheated on Linda.   

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  1. Add: WTF his deal is with how he treats JR.

    Is it trite to ask something about Montreal?

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  2. I actually would love to ask him wrestling related questions like:

    1.  Why does he shit on the tag team division.
    2.  Why constantly job out champions, especially the ones holding secondary titles. 
    3.  What's the deal with the 50/50 booking.
    4.  Wins and losses,  important or not.
    5.  Continuity, do you care?

    Etc, etc.  I could go on all day and without an ounce of sarcasm, I really would love to hear his responses and logic.  Sure, we hear all kinds of heresay about what he may think, but are those the true answers?  I'd love to have them from the horse's mouth.

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  3. Would sodium pentothal work? Seems to me that Vince has conjured up so many layers of bullshit around him, he probably doesn't even know what the truth looks like anymore!

    But yeah...what IS the deal with Randy Savage?

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  4. You can't make anybody tell absolute truth;  you can only get them to tell you the truth as they see it.

    As for Randy Savage, I think Occum's Razor applies:  Vince thought he was taking care of Savage, but instead Savage ran around behind Vince's back and signed with WCW.  They're both pretty thick headed, so they both never got around to forgiving the perceived slights against each other before it was too late to do so.

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  5. I think that, in Vince's eyes, it's just good old-fashioned ribbing.

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  6. The thing with Savage is that he had his run in WWF. There was really nothing left for him to do. They might of squeezed a feud with Bret Hart out of him but that's about it. Going to WCW freshened him up and gave him another chance at having a run, which worked out really well for the most part. Obviously Vince was pissed, Savage was his biggest star not named Andre or Hogan. Why he never appeared, even briefly, after WCW folded is the real mystery. 

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  7. Yeah, but Vince has forgiven guys for more terrible slights than Savage's. So it gives a little credence to the Stephanie theory...

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  8. I find it funny he considered Savage a dinosaur and wanted to focus on his "New Generation", yet today he practically jumps at the chance to bring in all the old stars and tout them as the greatest thing ever.

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  9. If I could ask one person one thing, I would ask HHH if he only started dating Stephanie and marrying her so he could basically run WWE as a wrestler and later as the boss.

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  10. Aw, you beat me to it.     Bell's Palsy?  Let's mock him!  What a manuveur!

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  11. Savage got a DVD and did promotional work for WWE All Stars. Savage wasn't too far away from appearing on WWE television again.

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  12. But Savage never needed Vince after he left.  He made only a handful of appearances for TNA and that was it for his post-WCW career.  While he never officially retired, he's one of the only big-named guys to walk away and basically never come back.  Didn't go to indys, didn't start his own fed, didn't crawl back to Vince.

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  13. Did Jeff Jarrett nail her too, then?

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  14. As smart as Trips is reported to be, I just don't see that being the case.  If it goes wrong, he's fucked.  And before they hooked up, he was already a main eventer.  A fairly new main eventer, but he had reached the top.  From all accounts, they began dating around Judgment Day 2000.  That's several months after his megapush began.  So hooking up with Steph at that point had just as much potential for failure and career suicide.

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  15. It's different because everybody knows what Jarrett did up to the dollar amount and Jarrett wasn't 1/10th of the star that Savage was whereas Savage's transgression isn't as obvious.

    What makes Savage special is that he's really the only star of that magnitude to not be recognized.  If he would have ever needed Vince again something might have happened and it could have been seen by the public as Vince "forgiving" him, but it never made it to that point.  As posted above, aside from a very short stint with TNA he was basically done with wrestling after 2000 and it seemed like he didn't care enough to ever reach out himself.

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  16. While it would be an interesting question just to see his constipated rage-face reaction, I can't see that.  He basically went from Chyna to Stephanie, the mother of all upgrades both in hindsight and at the moment.  I'm sure he was thinking less about Stephanie's bank account and more about no longer having to deal with Chyna.

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  17. I've always had the theory that the guys used to give him shit for banging a chick that looks like a guy calling him gay, saying he can't get a real woman etc... so he decided "I'll show them, I'll go fuck the bosses daughter!" and once he did so he began to enjoy all the perks that came with it... I have nothing to base that on, but it seems plausibe...

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  18. I agree; I know it's low hanging fruit to slag HHH for it, but from everything I've heard from both of them in interviews, they actually are a pretty good pair for each other. I mean, a Giants player married Tom Coughlin's daughter, so it's not the most insane thing in the world.

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  19. I thought we already knew the deal with Randy Savage; he unleashed Macho Madness on underage Stephanie, HHOOOOOOOYYYYYEEEAAAHHHH DIG IT!

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  20. It was just a joke...

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  21. It's not a one-way street.  Savage had to forgive Vince, but he never did.  Maybe he, like Bret Hart, would have gone on to do so eventually, but he died before that could happen.

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  22.  I dont know about that. There are interviews on youtube with Savage where he said he would be interested in returning to WWF.

    As far as that Stephanie stuff , many people behind the scenes say its trash. Vince was said to be really upset that Macho jumped and he did still wish him well on air. Ive yet to see Vince ever wish a former talent well on air before or after Macho.

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  23. Um, fucking Chyna is the least gay thing Triple H did in the nineties.  If he didn't have a tolerance for gay jokes D-X would've never happened.

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  24. Sucks. He was still really over in 1993-94

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  25.  Yeah, he was already "made" with his connections. He got close to Vince via HBK, he was a guy they saw as a future main eventer, they were giving him a huge push...getting into a relationship with Stephanie could have turned out terribly for him had it not gone well and he likely would've hurt his career. No doubt he's taken advantage of the power the relationship gave him, but I tend to believe he went into it, and is still in it for the right reasons.

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  26. The out of control Savage of 98 could've had a fun feud with Austin.

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  27.  I guess it boils down to Jarrett not being important enough to need to do business with again, but refusing to drop the title after his contract expired unless he was paid a ton of money isn't the worst thing I've heard of in wrestling. I guess in Vince's mind he should've just dropped the title for the good of THE BUSINESS but it's not the worst thing anyone has done. But he wouldn't touch Luger again either so I guess he knows how to hold a grudge.

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  28.  If he ever really wanted to, he probably could have come back.

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  29. Again, it was just a joke. But it kind of went beyond just refusing to do business with him again like Luger (who's working for the company again), Vince publicly buried the guy. Jarrett's still the only worker I know of that got fired for real on TV. And it's not like he held Vince up for an extra payoff, he simply asked for the money that was owed to him, which is not at all unreasonable when you're on the way out. Vince seems to genuinely hate his guts, which has always let me to believe that there's more to it than just the deal with dropping the title.

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  30. The best theory I've ever heard, was that Randy Savage was someone Vince admired and greatly trusted, hence the on screen goodbye, and he was totally and utterly betrayed by him going to the competition when his company was in trouble.

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  31. Lanny Poffo intimated in an interview shortly after Savage died that the Stephanie rumor was indeed true.  Take it with a grain of salt, but he definitely seemed to believe it was true.

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  32. I think at this point, there's nothing out there abouy Montreal that we don't already know.

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  33.  Yeah, from all accounts, Vince had a mega-boner for HHH. He would've been set whether he married Steph or not.

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  34. Take it for what it is, but X-Pac said that the Steph theory was BS, because something of that magnitude would be talked about A LOT backstage when it went down and he heard nothing about it at the time.

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  35. That's always been my theory, as well - that there was a lot of friendship and respect between them, and Vince took Savage's jump as a huge betrayal. As far as anybody knows, it's not like Savage told Vince ahead of time, he just seemed like he'd rather retire completely if he wasn't going to be allowed to wrestle, and then next thing you know, he shows up at the competition's door.

    If Savage had told Vince earlier, like saying "Either you let me wrestle some more, or I'm going to WCW", or even just say that WCW was willing to let him what Vince wouldn't, maybe things would have been different.

    I get the feeling that the way Vince felt about Savage is the same way that Bret felt about Vince, at least in terms of being stabbed in the back by a long-time friend.

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  36. Definitely seemed to be heading towards a HOF induction, probably with a TV appearance or two beforehand to hype it up.

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  37. I'd love to hear Vince's true feelings and knowledge surrounding Snuka killing his girlfriend.

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  38. Its funny, everyone got so absorbed in the questions they'd ask Vince, the emailers ordinal question was kind of forgotten.

    Undertaker and JR would definitely be good ones. Hogan of course because he's never told a truth in his life. So to learn how many of the things he's said were lies would be entertaining.

    As for my feelings on the Savage thing; I honestly don't think Savage banging Stephanie, even if she was underage, would have made much a difference to Vince. Lets face it, Vince is not a really great person, morally speaking. If Vince could make money off of something he'd pretty much forgive anything.

    Unless Savage forced himself on Stephanie. Now that would be far worse, than if it was consensual. Though I still think so little of Vince, he'd probably forgive that too. But Stephanie on the other hand, might have more of a problem wanting to have anything to do with Savage. Even though Vince still is the be all end all of the company, Stephanie is a close second. If she doesnt want to do business with someone, especially someone she had a dark history with, it ain't gonna happen.

    Also Trips could have been involved. If Steph told him that Savage took advantage of her, or they just hooked up consensually he might had had issues bringing Savage back as well.

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  39.  The thing with Savage that some people aren't taking into account was the negotiations that took place in 1996.  In the Fall of 96, a little bit before Survivor Series, there were reports that they were in contact with each other.  This makes the Savage situation even more unique, in my opinion.

    I still think it's a matter of Savage doing the deed with Steph when she was 18 back in 94.  But the information did not get to anyone until after 96.  Then, this caused Savage to get blacklisted for many years until around 07 and 08 when Vince came to some form of acceptance.  And while he was not giddy about bringing Savage back to the WWE family, there were still baby steps made by both sides towards a reconciliation (the Savage DVD, Savage's work with Mattel and WWE All Stars).

    Every other legend that left Vince was either brought back to the fold or had a clear reason not to be invited back... besides Savage.  If Vince was so hurt by the 94 defection, why did he contact him in 96?

    While the Steph thing may never be confirmed or debunked, there was some type of transgression(with whom or what, I don't know) that took place and information never reached the ears of Vince until after 96.

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  40.  But why was Vince trying to entice Savage to come back in late 1996 and then never again after that? The situation is confusing and intriguing.  I remember a lot of people being let down when Snuka was the mystery partner at Survivor Series that year because they thought there was a slim chance Savage might be coming back.

    Then again, I'm going off things Wade Keller was saying instead of Dave Meltzer, so maybe sources were wrong about the Savage talks in 1996. Keller had his sources but I think Meltzer had a lot more at the time.

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  41. JR would be great. 

    I think Undertaker would be kind of boring, frankly - his whole deal is that he's been a professional his entire career and, to the best of anyone's knowledge, doesn't really play political games.  That's awesome and makes him a great employee, but I'm not sure how exciting his "interrogation" would be. 

    Arn Anderson would be fantastic; came up in the territory system, partnered with one of the top five stars in the history of the industry, had material roles in the two most important factions in North American wrestling history (Horsemen and as a primary antagonist for the nWo), universally regarded as a student of the business to the extent that he STILL has issues with breaking kayfabe.  Also, I'd LOVE to hear what he thinks of the depths to which Flair has sunk in recent years.

    Pat Patterson would be great - Vince's right hand for decades and one of the primary architects of the modern booking style.

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  42. This is the first I've heard about negotiations in '96, and probably the first time many others have heard it as well.

    Not doubting you, and it's not like some authority or anything, just seems odd that something like that isn't more well known.

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  43. Maybe this is a bit exaggerated, but I could definitely picture Vince answering those questions with something like "Yeah, I don't really give a fuck what any of you think, I'm a billionaire and you're not and I fuckin' hate all you little fuckheads that take this shit way too seriously. I'll job the champions and make thousands of dollars per night doing it. You know what the highest-rated segment 'Raw' ever had was? It certainly wasn't an Ironman match full of chain-wrestling, shit-for-brains. Go get laid you pretentious little know-it-all loser fuck-faces. Why don't you tell Steve Jobs how stupid his new iPhone is, and how he knows nothing about his own fucking product and how to market it, and how he'd make so much more money if he'd just listen to your ideas instead?"

    And then when someone points out that Steve Jobs is dead, he'll reply "Fuck you, he's dead when I say he's dead."

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  44.  From an old article on the interwebs I found just by typing in the two names and 1996:

    In late 1996, Savage's contract with WCW had expired and he briefly
    negotiated with WWE regarding a possible return to the organization.
    Meltzer said that during this time frame, Vince McMahon told him he
    would take back Savage "with open arms," but would "never ever" take
    Hulk Hogan back.

    Meltzer then notes that McMahon's animosity towards Savage during the
    final years of the wrestling legend's life stemmed from an incident
    that occurred following 1996, or "something he found out."

    "Any explanation of why Vince hates Savage that has to do with
    something that Vince would have known pre-1996 is clearly balderdash,"
    Meltzer stated. "Either something post 1996, or something he found out
    after 1996."

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  45.  And this goes to you, too:   From an old article on the interwebs I found just by typing in the two names and 1996:


    In late 1996, Savage's contract with WCW had expired and he briefly negotiated with WWE regarding a possible return to the organization. Meltzer said that during this time frame, Vince McMahon told him he would take back Savage "with open arms," but would "never ever" take Hulk Hogan back.


    Meltzer then notes that McMahon's animosity towards Savage during the final years of the wrestling legend's life stemmed from an incident that occurred following 1996, or "something he found out."


    "Any explanation of why Vince hates Savage that has to do with
    something that Vince would have known pre-1996 is clearly balderdash,"
    Meltzer stated. "Either something post 1996, or something he found out
    after 1996."

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  46.  From a reprinted article last year:

    Meltzer expanded on his theory about Stephanie, saying:
    “I think that the reason is the same reason that everyone says. It’s the
    reason everyone in (WWE) says. It’s the reason that is the only one
    that makes any sense. So I think that’s the reason. I can’t come up with
    any other reason. I don’t know. I mean, I’ve heard that reason from so
    many people that are not internet rumourmongers, I mean people who – all
    I know is that within the company as far as the top people, they all
    believe it, and nobody knows for sure, because it’s never brought up.”

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  47. I agree. It was less gay when HBK kissed him on raw (not to mention the repeated instances of him telling other guys to suck it) than when we all found out he was porking Chyna,

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  48. Maybe one day Vince will finally lose it totally and do an RF Video video where he shoots on himself...
    (ewww, poor choice of words)

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  49.  It's less gay then him calling himself bi...something, or saying HBK was his road wife, or raping Michael Cole.

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  50.  Instead of Savage/Steph maybe it was Savage and Linda or even Vince and Liz? Considering how bad Vince would drool over Liz.

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  51. It's like an old joke:

    "Vince's ego is so big, when he's having sex, he imagines he's masturbating."

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