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Hell In A Cell Thread: Part One

First up, predictions for the show, and specifically the main event tonight.  There seems to be some buzz about it, although I don't think it'll affect the buyrate.  

My bold prediction:  I think they're in panic mode and that means WWE CHAMPION RYBACK.  

Bryan Alvarez had a really cool scenario if they want to screwjob the shit out of it:  Cena or someone else beats up Punk before the match even starts, and Ziggler cashes in on him and wins the WWE title.  Then Ryback can beat Ziggler in the Cell and supposedly walk out as champion.  Next night on RAW, the title gets taken away from Ziggler because his briefcase was only good for the Smackdown belt, so we end with Punk still champion, Ziggler still carrying the briefcase, and Ryback still undefeated.  If it was me I'd just beat Ryback by doing the Warrior-Rude finish and be done with it, but then I'm not exactly a Ryback booster.  

Apparently there's other matches tonight too.  

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  1. I think Mr Ziggles has to cash in the case for the other title.

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  2. I'm hoping they rip off Taker/HBK with Brock Lesnar playing the part of Kane. But I don't see them doing that. The worst thing they can do is try to work a normal WWE main event match. If Ryback is going over, he needs to go over STRONG. I'd have no problem with Ryback crushing him in 10 minutes, no selling everything.

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  3. Kind of tough to care what happens when it seems set in stone Rock's getting the belt from Punk at RR regardless. Other than ratings desperation, don't see the point of Ryback winning tonight(plus could care less about him) when he would HAVE to lose between now and RR. So if he wins tonight, he'd have to lose in the future. At least if get "creative" tonight, Punk retains, Ryback keeps the "streak".



    Whatever the screwjob is, transition Ryback away from Punk for now. Can have that pick back up after Rumble if Austin's knee isn't ready or he just doesn't want one more match.

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  4. Ryback wins, he celebrates with the title as the Cell is being raised, he offers Punk a handshake in his first show of real humanity, and finally showing Punk the respect he's been demanding...and Punk spits in his face.

    Ryback snaps and brutalizes Punk, tosses off/hits the referees who try to restrain him. The bell rings over and over again as security and officials try to pull him off Punk, but none of them can stop Ryback. Finally, the referees feel they have no choice. They reverse the decision and award the match (and title) back to Punk.

    It's a fuck finish, but they've booked themselves into a corner to where they need to do a fuck finish if they want to get to where they want to get. Putting the title on him for two months and then putting it back on Punk at TLC is just stupid because you'll be sacrificing Ryback's undefeated streak anyway (even if he isn't pinned, and just loses it in a TLC match - you'll just be arguing semantics from then on, like after an accidental DQ loss against Benoit, they couldn't call calling Mohammad Hassan "undefeated," they had to go out of their way to state that he's just never been pinned or made to submit), except you'll also be sacrificing Punk's year-long title reign with it.

    That said, if they do put the title on THE RYBACK (why did Bryan stop calling him that? I loved that gimmick), I wouldn't complain. They need to make new stars yesterday. I do wish they'd have given this push to someone with more talent, but I guess I don't care so much who the new stars are, so long as we get them, and they're at least competent and believable (and also over, because few things in wrestling suck more than when crowds don't give a shit about a guy, but they persist in pushing him to the moon anyway).

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  5. I'll also throw this out there. If they don't want to burn a Lesnar ppv appearance, or just don't want to do Lesnar/Ryback, I wouldn't be shocked to see Mark Henry make his return and rip off the cage door. Last I read, I think he was getting close to being healthy.

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  6. I think thats a fairly good shout, because Ryback feuding with Henry seems like a good way to keep both men busy for the rest of the year

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  7. My suggestion for tonight's main event ending is to do the Yokozuna/Undertaker casket match ending without the screwy taker rises up afterwards. Paul Heyman gets all of his people (with or without Lesnar) together and beats up Ryback 3/4/5/6/10/20 on 1; thus a new dangerous alliance is born. Punk still retains the title; Ryback still looks like a monster; and it sets up a possible feud for Ryback for the next several months as he goes through the dangerous alliance.

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  8. What just occurred to me: Who cares which title The Rock wins anyway. Seamus could use a break. Have Show beat Seamus, have Cena's big comeback be against Show (I know, I know, it's not like we haven't seen that program already but still...) at Survivor Series, then you have The Rock winning the Rumble to set up Wrestlemania.

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  9. I have no idea how they're going to get themselves out of this.

    They either end Punk's mammoth reign on a throwaway PPV without the build the reign warrants

    or

    They stick the belt on Ryback before he's really ready for it or we have much to indicate whether he's really got what it takes. This would also screw with what they've seemingly been banking on selling WM in Punk-Rock-Cena.


    Either scenario is unsatisfactory.



    If the belt went on Ryback it'd be back on Punk in short order so he could drop it to Rock at the Rumble (Rock Vs Ryback is not the match they want to run in January). It would render the whole change pointless in the first place and take away from Punk Vs Rock (which does = $).


    On the other hand, Punk winning potentially takes away Rybacks USP; his streak and aura. I think there's huge value in keeping that going as a) I'm not sure how much else Ryback has in the tank once that's gone and b) a WM match of Ryback against the Undertaker at a future WM is a massive sell if it's streak Vs streak.


    All that considered the best way out of this may be to do something so out of leftfield that nobody really notices that Ryback is human or that Punks had his balls chopped off.


    And since it'd make no sense to do it now and nobody is calling for it I'm going with the one thing that would give both men a decent storyline coming out of HIAC - the Cena heel turn starts tonight.


    Now watch Ryback job when he gets distracted by Miz's music :)

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  10. Im just in complete shock how many smarks have bought into Ryback... WWE Champion.


    Booked into a corner or not.


    I dont care. Buisness is with Punk, not Rybrock.

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  11. I was waiting for the first person to suggest Cena turns heel by costing Ryback the match. A much more plausible scenario is Cena accidentally costing Ryback the match and Ryback snaps on him afterwards.


    As much as everyone always wants Cena to turn, now would be a terrible time. WWE is way too top heavy with heels right now.

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  12. My out of left field idea: Brock attacks/injures Ryback before the match. Cena takes his place vs Punk in the cell. Brock and Ryback come out during the match, leading to a huge clusterfuck to allow Punk to sneak a pin on Cena and escape with the title.

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  13. Punk, sheamus and team hell no are all going over

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  14. Oh god yes, tonight would be an awful time to do it.



    Which is what made me think of it in the first place....

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  15. Not a bad idea at all. Henry could be an interesting addition to Heyman's stable and if he Kane's Ryback out of the title, Punk keeps the title and Ryback looks strong.

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  16. More importantly how the fuck did doug martin already put me 45 pts in the hole to the real anonymous gm

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  17. I'm thinking that Ryback wins but the decision gets overturned, either immediately or the next night on Raw. Or maybe they pull the Starrcade 96 ending, not telling people that it was non-title until the match is over. Outside of Punk/Ryback I have no interest in this card at all, and even with that match I only care about how they'll get themselves out of the corner they've booked themselves into, not the actual match. Nothing really jumps out at me from a quality standpoint (in fact, Del Rio/Orton and Show/Sheamus have the potential to be real stinkers), and outside of the main it's pretty obvious who's going over in every match. And with only 6 matches there's going to be a lot of time on this PPV that's spent on things other than wrestling, though supposedly they've added PTP vs. Rey/Cara, and it wouldn't surprise me if they open with an unannounced U.S. title match.

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  18. This is a great idea....also, it creates the comic potential of Mark Henry taking 10 minutes of PPV time to open a cage door.

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  19. The world title has been so devalued that it's seen as the clear #2 belt in the company, so it'd be weird to have the likes of Rock and Cena fighting over it. Of course, WWE could do this in order to rehab the value of the World title, though by now it's very clear that the WWE championship is considered the top prize.

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  20. i think they may as well give ryback a shot at it and see if they can recreate some early Goldberg type magic, the business is on a steady decline and a near year long reign for punk hasnt helped, the guy obviously has fans but after 6 years isnt a fresh face and isnt ever going to be at a hogan/austin level so give an opportunity to someone new and see what happens i say

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  21. Vickie declares that Ziggler can use his briefcase for the WWE title. The next night on Raw, new GM Ric Flair reverses it.

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  22. That's true now but to make it so they just have to make it so. It's not us they're selling it to it's the millions (and millions.)

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  23. I feel like fans are putting a lot more stock into this "WWE will panic" than the company actually has been, in this specific scenario. The ratings have been REALLY low for about a month now, and we really haven't seen them do anything too outrageous to spike a rating. Yes, McMahon returned, but his presence has been relatively inconsequential. There hasn't been any spontaneous major title changes or any major nonsensical turns. For better or worse, they seem to be sticking to the course that they originally set out.

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  24. In your scenario, Cena still ends up as the king of the mountain. I'd say, if you're going to have Ryback win tonight, you might as well put him over Cena and everyone else at that point. Cena on top = more of the same ol', same ol'.

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  25. It's tough to care about CM Punk carrying a 14-month title reign into the main event of the second-biggest show of the year against The fucking Rock?

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  26. Exactly. At this point I'm hoping for someone, anyone to Nash their way into this story and nip the streak. I get the fans thirsting for something new but this guy's total value is in the streak. He doesn't seem that charismatic, had no idea how to audible in the Albert Raw match, and his big crowd amp up to that stupid chant makes it look like he's shrugging his shoulders more than anything. Perfect world is Punk booked strong in the win tonight and Ryback sent into a comic gimmick where he has to resurrect the blow-away diet gimmick.

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  27. I called that the minute they announced Ryback as the challenger weeks ago. They don't even need to formalize it as a Dangerous Alliance Mark II; just have every heel jobber you can find swarm Ryback at some point after the cage gets compromised and I think people can put the rest together.

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  28. Sorry, you misread or I wasn't clear or a little of each. Looking forward to Rock/Punk would have loved for that to get the Wrestlemania moment instead of Cena getting his win back, it's tonight that I could care less about. They're booked into a corner to maintain path towards Rock/Punk yet somehow keep Ryback strong. I have no faith in them to come up with something satisfying though.

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  29. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    I have said this before, the mark in me wants Ryback to win but this seems like paint by numbers booking. Brock gets into the cell, cost's Ryback the title, and a Punk/Brock/Heyman alliance is formed. And again the mark in me would be DYING to see what happened with those three next.

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  30. It is a bit tough to care if we know who is going to win.

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  31. This. He ain't getting it. All we're getting is a shitty watered down HIAC match on a shitty watered down PPV full of OTHER shitty watered down HIAC matches.

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  32. Kinda of a threadjack. Thought of a way to resolve the Austin/Punk war of words. Let's say they go through with the Heyman stable tonight or tomorrow on Raw. Heyman, Punk, Lesnar, Cesaro, and Rhodes Scholars as a kind of DA 2K12(I believe the original DA formed 21 years ago yesterday). Over the rest of the year, Heyman and Punk keep throwing jabs at Austin until finally he returns during the buildup to WM.

    Assuming Austin can't do a match, I think the best way to pay off all the shit talking would be for Austin to form his own stable to go up against DA 2K12...in a WarGames match...at WrestleMania. TAKE ALL OF MY MONEY!

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  33. Punk turned heel on the Rock, Punk faces Rock at Royal Rumble for the title.

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  34. The smark in me desperately wants to see Punk win for all the he represents: long-term booking, WWE's/Vince's commitment to the title, and a commitment to not-so-big guys.

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  35. Yeah, but the concern is that they're going to hotshot the title 2-3 times before Punk ends up with right before the Rumble.

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  36. Interesting. But are you suggesting Austin as Heyman - managing the faces, no in ring action and his building a team? Or Austin hiding his limitations being the last man in for his team? Either way, not sure how believable it'd be for Austin to captain a team...the whole DTA part of his character.

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  37. Managing them. And throw in a Stunner on Heyman after the match is over. As for his team, I'd start with HHH and Ryback and go from there.

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  38. DTA or not, would watch just for War Games being brought back.



    Though one of reasons Punk's brought me back to weekly viewing is most of what he does is watchable. If they can't get Austin to play ball, could easily see Punk go in any number of directions to Wrestlemania.



    Teaming with Lesnar vs HHH/Taker, vS any of those three one on one, blowoff to Ryback depending on whatever they come up with tonight.

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  39. OR... the new Dangerous Alliance can feud against the hottest stable out there, 3MB, the three man band.

    A new DA would be all kinds of awesome and I'm a fan of your plan, but this is fantasy booking at its fantasiest. Ain't no way that Vince lets Heyman, Punk, and Austin--arguably three of the most brilliant minds in wrestling--control of the marquee angle that can overshadow Cena.

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  40. It will never happen but I don't think it's that far fetched. Vince would jump at the chance to get Austin to be part of the buildup and the card without actually having to work a match.

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  41. Based on most of the comments here I'm guessing "no", but... is anyone here psyched for this PPV? I actually think this has been one of their more effective PPV builds in a while, actually. To Wit:
    - Punk-Ryback: We have no idea who's gonna win, and are all taking turns guessing our own scenarios. How often does that happen anymore? Really intriguing match, with the potential for an all-time great bump effort by Punk and what should be a very interesting ending.
    - Hell No vs Rhodes Scholars has gotta be the best built tag team title match since...I don't know when. Both teams have excellent workers, really strong (opposite) personalities, and come into the show looking very strong. And again, the outcome is a toss-up.
    - Sheamus vs Show: Yes, we've gotten fed some shit like the debate. BUT I for one really loved their segment on this week's Smackdown, where Sheamus presented this as a huge challenge for him, which is exactly what this feud needs to be. Plus I think they've done a good job of building it as a battle between two really protected finishers. Sure it won't be a mat classic, but I like the idea of Sheamus finally getting a classic "Hulk Hogan fat guy challenger" to go over.
    - Lastly, I like the Orton-ADR feud. It's been a month of ADR kicking Orton's ass and mocking him, and has probably been the best ADR has looked since last year. I think the match has the potential to be really good (would be the perfect spot for an old school Attitude-esque brawl through the arena type match) and again, I could see either of them winning.


    So yeah, not to sound like Scott Stanford on a PPV pre-game show, but I for one am looking forward to this. (Especially since I've managed to successfully do a sell job on my wrestling fan friends and get to split it three-ways.) Anyway, I think it should be a newsworthy show.

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  42. YankeesHoganTripleHFanOctober 28, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    I have no problem with seeing Punk win and, cheating or not, it makes sense to stick with him. I love that he has gotten to hold the title so long.

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  43. Worst_in_the_WorldOctober 28, 2012 at 1:02 PM

    Agree. There's just so much money in a Punk-Rock match at the Rumble. Speaking of which, here's a scenario I've been mulling for that match: what if Punk somehow retains the title against Rock (DQ, interference, etc) which would be a huge shock. Then later that same night, Rock enters and wins the Rumble. Which sets up a Rock-Punk rematch at Mania which would have an insane amount of heat, OR a Punk-Rock-Cena triple threat at Mania to settle all scores.

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  44. This show is taking place about 20 minutes from me, and I have no desire to go. I'm not gonna pay to watch Ryback, or Big Show for that matter, headline a show. Ryback has had one important match in his career. He botched the ending, then the best he could do was a clothesline to finish? Sounds like a main eventer to me.


    By the way, you can still get 4th row tickets on ticketmaster, so I think it's safe to say it isn't just this board that isn't interested.

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  45. What's so hard to believe about Punk getting the Flair beat out of him for about 15 minutes then squeaking out a victory, by skill or by shenanigans? Ryback keeps his heat as long as he looks like a killer, and Punk has apparently been talking about looking forward to making him look like a superstar in there, which we should know by no means "get the shit kicked out of me". Simple...which is what Creative is. The only creative people in wrestling are the actual wrestlers. Well, some of the wrestlers.

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  46. I thought the whole theory is that people buy these shows to see Punk. You want to bait and switch them?

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  47. Cena is the biggest face draw full time on the roster. He goes over.

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  48. SAVE US MARK HENRY.

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  49. I won't be able to see the show this evening, but really, nothing outside of Punk/Ryback is "must see," and even then I have faith that they won't hotshot the title.


    It's a tough decision: HHH's idea of re-establishing titles with long reigns vs. Vince's need to MAKE. MONEY. NOW. And IMO, Punk's reign needs to come to a proper close, not some throw-away mach essentially booked on the fly (in the grand scheme of things).

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  50. this will be the first PPV i've ever watched at a cinema :)

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  51. I agree with you but for a slightly different reason. I don't care how bad things look right now, Ryback is not getting the call to have the top belt. With Cena being magically healed now, I think he walks out champion tonight somehow. If not him, then Punk. But the WWE won't waste a Rock appearance on a new name.

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  52. My predictions:
    Punk retains, probably by Lesnar-ference. You don't piss away the 14 month champion vs. Rock at Royal Rumble buyrate just to swerve people on a throwaway PPV that nobody is watching. Plus Ryback chasing Lesnar will give him something to do that doesn't feel like a demotion. Win-win for everyone. They name dropped Brock too much to have this NOT happen.

    Show beats Sheamus, taunts him, gets Brogue kicked and Ziggler finally cashes in on Show. WWE doesn't throw around the "guarantee" thing often and Ziggler guaranteed he'd be champion so I don't think they'll make a liar out of him.
    Koft beats Miz clean
    Rhodes Scholars beat Hell No. I want both teams to stay together and keep feuding because both entertain me. This seems like the best way to get there.
    Eve retains because she's the only diva with an actual storyline
    Orton kills Del Rio


    If anything else is on the card I don't know or care.

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  53. Cena's injury couldn't have happened at a worse time. The Cena/Punk HIAC blowoff was a guaranteed 4 stars even if Cena was wrestling one armed. Like I know a lot of people here are bored of the Cena/Punk feud but to me it would have been the best use of the cell in that it's a long term feud that's had great matches and could use a huge bloody climax.


    I understand why people are intrigued by Punk/Ryback because it's new and unpredictable but I can't bring myself to care and I'll be watching the match the whole time waiting for Lesnar to bust through the cage.



    I can't bring myself to care about most of the other feuds. Like Show/Sheamus is a good enough story and Show has played his part 100% perfectly. I'm just not that into it. I like both tag teams and want to see them wrestle more but it's not a top of the card must see or anything. Miz/Kofi is going to be good because those guys have worked well together in the past even when Miz was green(er) but they already had their 20 minute match. Whatever they do at the PPV I've already seen it and don't care enough to see it again.



    Orton/ADR I couldn't care less if I possibly tried.


    I'll probably end up watching but I'll also probably end up paying closer attention to baseball.

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  54. As uninteresting as I think this show is, there is a (smallish) chance that Punk, Ziggler, Cesaro, Cody Rhodes, and Damien Sandow walk out as champions, which would be kinda awesome. That's a ton of talent holding belts, and a huge step up over Santino and Miz and Sheamus and Orton or whoever else they had recently.

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  55. Ryback is the new Sid.

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  56. I'm not thrilled about it, BUT I respect your optimism. Quite a few folks here--especially earlier in the year--just post to complain or talk about how they hate something. Why would you waste so much time dedicating your life to something you hate?



    They shook up the writing team and we've gotten Cesaro, Ziggler, Bryan, and Clay (I guess I should just accept the fact that Vince thinks he's a lost cause) losing. The mid-card has suffered in terms of character progression, but I'm sounding like a broken record on this.



    And Scott Stanford rules! High five.

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  57. My 100% lock, putting my reputation on the line pick: Ryback does not win the WWE title.


    Even WWE in Panic Mode has to realize that that is nothing but a dead end.

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  58. And yet that match is going to do better numbers and have more interest than tonight's match where we DON'T know who's going to win.

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  59. There's no way Ryback pins Punk clean.

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  60. I think the mystery about the finish could affect (effect? I'm a math teacher, I'm never sure which goes where...) the buyrates. I've got an unplanned day off tomorrow, and nothing better to do tonight, so the only thing keeping me from buying the show is the fear the power will go out midway through the show. And also, football.

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  61. Unless they go all the way with it, and Ryback is a better worker than we realize.

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  62. Affect is right. Affect is a verb, effect a noun. If you affect something, then you have an effect on it.

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  63. Yeah, people may be too smart for their own goo here. A Punk win over undefeated Ryback does him wonders, and Ryback can be rebuilt after a loss.

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  64. True, I wish they released that kind of information to the public (pre-orders vs day of orders), although nowadays since everyone just orders it with a remote control, I doubt anybody orders before the day of the event anymore.

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  65. There is only one reason in wrestling to build up an undefeated streak: TO. END. IT. If there was a bigger money match on the horizon for Ryback, I would say it makes perfect sense to have him win the belt here. But there's not, and we know Ryback isn't really a ratings mover (although in his defense, nobody is). Rock/Punk in January is a big money match, and the aura of Punk having ended this big undefeated streak will only help his credentials in the match with Rock.



    So, yeah, it makes perfect sense for Punk to win here. But with a ratings free-fall and Vince acting crazy......

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  66. Too obviously perfect, so they won't do it. They'd also be admitting that Heyman is a draw (in the sense that he can get heels over), so that won't happen.

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  67. In a match like that, Austin could do a few minutes and it wouldn't expose him as being old and terrible, which is his fear. For the record, I don't think he'd look like either of those things. He looked awesome in his training segments on tough enough.

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  68. Yeah, I think part of the issue is the Goldberg effect. Prior to Goldberg, you could do a winning streak with a mid-card act and have fans buy into it -- Tatanka for example.

    I think now there is more of a sentiment that it's a waste to build a guy up with a winning streak if you're not prepared to go all the way with him, or that you're throwing away money by ending it. I don't think that's really the case though -- for all of his faults, Goldberg was a special talent in terms of pure physical charisma and intensity. Ryback has some of that, but not to the same level. I don't think it helps that he is basically doing Goldberg's shtick to the letter, which I think makes the gimmick a danger to fall into parody from the crowds perspective.

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  69. Oh, I agree. But based on the way guys like Brock and Rock (hmm...a pattern...) bump up buyrates for specific PPVs, regardless of how aimless the story is, I infer that fans are more interested in seeing them than in anything inherently good about the storytelling. People love Rock, he wrestles very rarely, and is treated as a huge deal - so he will sell. I think general invested interest in Rock vs. Punk from a storyline perspective is pretty low - there are very few long-term consequences or concerns. I don't think it actually matters that Punk turned on Rock, or talked smack about him backstage, or whatever. All that matters is that the Rock is going to be in a high profile match. Which, for me personally, doesn't mean anything. If I wanted to watch the Rock, I would throw in a DVD, but obviously I speak for a small majority of the fan base. In this regard, storytelling and buyrate have very little correlation.

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  70. Worst_in_the_WorldOctober 28, 2012 at 4:37 PM

    Definitely agree about Punk-Cena— for all the bitching we do at HIAC as a theme PPV taking away from the actual HIAC match as a "feud ender", they actually had built to it perfectly. If the planned Punk-Cena match had gone off, it would have been exactly the type of match that HIAC was built for.

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  71. Given that he's squashed all of them, it would make sense for them to all gang up on him and cost him the biggest match of his career. And if they wanted to book specifically for me, it would be the Three Man Band leading the charge.

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  72. Worst_in_the_WorldOctober 28, 2012 at 4:41 PM

    Yeah I definitely don't feel all candy and sugarplums regarding the week-to-week WWE creative direction, but for some reason this particular show really works for me. The WWE Title and Tag Title matches feel like big deals, and there's enough other stuff on there that I think could be really good. Anyway, should make for fun hurricane viewing.
    Stanford pre-game show in 50 minutes!!!

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  73. He had a team at Survivor Series when he was co-GM, so it's not totally without precedent. And he could probably sell it as picking a bunch of guys who also enjoy stomping mudholes in dudes and whatnot.

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  74. Whoa, whoa, whoa... wait... what's your reputation again?

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  75. I could see them doing that, especially because it means that they don't have to work around Rock's schedule as far as Elimination Chamber goes, but I can't see them doing a triple threat at 'Mania. I'd expect Cena to win the title at Elimination Chamber. Although would be a way around the "twice in a lifetime" jokes we've been making for months.

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  76. Question: How big was Brock in terms of buyrate when he beat the Rock at SummerSlam 2002?


    I've never heard, seen, or watched Ryback - but sometimes you build a guy (that you don't like) and they put the title on him and then they do something that actually gets him over.


    For me, Brock finally got over around the Undertaker HITC match in 2002 and you knew they were going for a Brock face turn - that I thought was a good idea for the time. By Wrestlemania 19, I really had become a fan. His match with Goldberg should have been a great dream match, but a bitter NYC crowd killed it from being a good match. I mean its kind of hard to work a match when it doesn't mean anything. (Match was bad by the way, its just that it never had a chance because it was dead in the water before both guys entered the ring.)


    The same thing with Batista. You had a guy I despised, but you have him work two years in Triple H's stable and then you make him cool. Dave was an old man, got injured a lot, but he was a good character from what I remember of him.


    Then again I liked Ken Anderson Kennedy too. That's ANDERSON!!!!!!! ANDERSON!!!!!

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  77. Yes. This is a Story they could Tell.

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  78. I'd say this - Ryback/Punk is more intriguing in the Cell than Cena/Punk would be. They did have six weeks to turn Punk/Cena into a blood feud, but a controversial double pin doesn't naturally lead to the most dangerous grudge match in wrestling....but put Ryback and Punk in there and it really makes you wonder how it'll turn out. Without the Cell I'd say DQ for sure.

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  79. he doesn't need to go over a NEW star needs to be made

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  80. Helped the fuck out of me in my primary league, though.

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  81. Ryback has haters all around. . . just wait.

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  82. This is why fantasy booking sucks.

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  83. Yeah, I'm really hoping we get a big elimination tag match out of this next month, too. Team Heyman Guys vs. all the babyfaces seems to write itself.

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  84. In a normal match, a Flair finish will work but they messed up by putting this bout in a Cell. That means if the finish isnt spectacular, the whole match falls flat.

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