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How Long Aces & Eights Storyline Will Keep Going

Six months?  Oy vey...

Look at how long they kept the Joey Ryan angle going and no one gave a shit about that one, either.  Nothing against Ryan, he's great in this role, but it wasn't a storyline that required FOUR MONTHS.  With Aces, we should have gotten the payoff at BFG, and all we got was the first real angle.  Maybe Brian Michael Bendis is doing wrestling writing now?

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  1. How often do we complain about storylines that are rushed way too quickly and then forgotten about on TV? For example: the Johnny Ace/Cena storyline which could have been over 6 months long, the "chaos" on RAW last year with the wrestlers walking out or even the initial Invasion angle. At least TNA is dedicating valuable time to several month long storylines and sticking to them while I can't say the same for WWE.

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  2. Or worse, Grant Morrison!

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  3. If Bendis was writing TNA, he would have brought back some TNA midcarder from 02-03 era and had him be the leader of Ace n 8s, then subsequently squashed and sent back...


    Christian York!?!?

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  4. I'm all for them dragging this out as long as possible, because I'm not looking forward to the HUGE reveal where we find out Spike Dudley is the real mastermind.

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  5. Between the Main Event Mafia, "Them," the Band, Team Canada, Fortune, Immortal, etc. TNA just can't seem to operate unless it has a multi-person heel stable dominating airtime in the company.

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  6. True, but the longer storylines aren't my issue. It's the total lack of plot developments a lot of the time. Like with the Joey Ryan thing, where something would happen one week, and they'd go three weeks without even mentioning it, and then suddenly something else would happen. With Aces & Eights, they keep doing the same stuff week after week and we don't learn any new information about them. It's not an effective way to build a story.

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  7. to be fair, them was immortal

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  8. This is one of those obvious reports. TNA isn't in any hurry to advance the Aces and Eights storyline. It took 4 months to get from the first attack on Sting to Devon being unmasked. I predict Aces and Eights will last until next year's Bound for Glory.

    I think everybody that watches TNA should be grateful Claire Lynch quit abruptly or else that feud might still be going on. I actually didn't hate it like most people did (I didn't take it seriously), but I would have lost all my patience with that storyline if it was still going.

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  9. I like a longer, more meaningful angle...the only thing that worries me is that this looks like a habit they're falling into, like with Storm & Roode. They drew that out far longer than it should have gone and by the end at BFG, while it ended in a spectacular match and an overall accomplished state, it had far less emotional impact than it would have if Storm had won the title at Lockdown, or even at BFG. The story went on for so long that everything changed around it and it ended as a solid B instead of an A+. Now it looks like they're gonna do the same thing with A8s. I swear it's like Dixie is the asshole money-grubbing producer nosing around and staining a competent writer and director's perfectly good movie.

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  10. I think TNA has a general idea where they want to go with Aces and Eights but they are working out the details. So far i've loved the angle

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  11. This isn't Dixie. Bruce Pritchard is in charge of creative, so I'd say he's to blame for the snail's pace of TNA storylines. Until about a year ago, Impact was a fast-paced show filled with a dozen storylines at a time that all advanced constantly even though some of them would last a long time. When Pritchard took over, he basically went for the complete opposite of Vince Russo's approach, which has pushed things too far in the other direction. With the underwhelming build to BFG this year because the storylines peaked too early, I had hoped TNA would tweak the Creative team somewhat, but that doesn't look like its going to happen.

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  12. The greatest angle of all time:

    1. Hogan saves Savage from beatdown by Hart Foundation/Honky.

    2. Hogan helps Savage win WWF Champhionship at WM IV

    3. Hogan/Savage team to face MegaBucks.

    4. Savage expresses jealousy at Hogan at Survivor Series

    5. Savage ignores Hogan getting beat down by the Towers on SNME

    6. Hogan dumps Savage at the Royal Rumble

    7. Savage turns on Hogan on the Main Event

    8. Hogan beats Savage for WWF Champhionship at WM V.

    Now, I may have missed 1 or 2 things there, but let's add 2, and that's 10 things that happened in 18 months. I realize the Monday Night Wars changed the way we look at these things, but you know what...it's a lot easier to come up with good stories when they don't play themselves out in 6 weeks. Maybe some of the reason the writing sucks so much is that when they come up with a good idea, instead of lasting for most of a year, they have to come up with new ideas for the same guys instantly. In 2012, Hogan/Savage would play out over like 2 months, 3 months tops.

    This is not to defend A&8s. If Savage/Hogan were on my TV every single week for 6 months in 1988/89 with no progression, I'd have been irritated. But the way things ran back then, something happened, and then you'd see replays and announcers talking about it for a month, until something else happened. It's called building your storylines.

    Put one last way: When Virgil turned on Dibiase, they got almost a year worth of storylines out of it (started at Royal Rumble 1991, ended 10 months later at Tuesday in Texas. When Ricardo turns on Del Rio, over-under on 2 or 3 months? Hell, when Alex Riley turned on the Miz, with much less buildup, he was massively over for about 3 weeks, and then they blew off the feud and had no idea where to go.

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  13. True...I think I put too much stock in Bruce since so many things changed for the better once he took over. Seems he's playing the "just do the opposite of Russo" card a little too much. At least the good outweighs the bad still...for now.

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  14. Are you kidding? That would be EPIC!

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  15. I will say this for all eternity. TNA needs to maximize Xplosion. Get it on TV in the US and then you could do angle advancement there as well.

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  16. Wrestling has changed.


    What worked 25 years ago isn't going to get over today.

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  17. I'd kill for the leader to be the Ultimate Warrior.

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  18. I went to the TNA house show in St. Louis last night, and what I will give to the A&8s angle is that it's over. They got one of the biggest negatives reactions despite being complete clods. it's also a sneaky way to get big-boy work for the developmental talents.


    I'm still willing to give Bruce more time with this as he figures out who works best for his style of show. I'll bet there are more changes as all of the old, bad ideas and characters are flushed. These things take time. As long as I see a watchable wrestling show, it's fine.

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  19. I'm surprised you can mention Bendis without Jesse going on a reflexive fanboy rampage. That seems like chum in the water for him.

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  20. It's ancient history now, but that Riley turn really was something. It put a nothing guy in a position where he might have shot up the card if they'd stayed behind him. I think that was what was originally planned for Ted Dibiase in the Legacy storyline, but then the fans started turning Orton face before they could pull the trigger. Maybe that would have been the move that could have made something out of Lil' Mil'. It just demonstrates how effective classic storytelling can be when they bother utilizing it.

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  21. I think it follows booking trends and preferences of many of the territories, particularly in the 80's.

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  22. I still think Russo is a ghostwriter for either WWE or TNA these days...

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  23. Actually.....that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I quite enjoyed his role as the "boss" of Bubba and Devon at the tail end of their WWE run. It's not a great payoff, but I'll take that over, say, Devon, Bischoff, et al.

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  24. Can't be Bendis. Nobody's spoken Yiddish yet.

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  25. I sure didn't change for the better. Wish we could go back to the way it was, better, instead of the current crap.

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  26. THINGS WERE BETTER BACK THEN!!!!


    Wah, wah, wah, get over it.

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