Firstly using your archives I've been putting together best of lists, like best of COTC, Starrcade etc, basically watching anything you rated ***1/2 or higher. So thank you for providing so many awesome reviews over the years. I trust you more than Meltzer and a lot of others when it comes to star reviews. But I was thinking of putting together a best of WCW Saturday Night compilation and was looking for some ideas as far as badass matches from that show! Do you have any recommendations or perhaps could you do an article on SN because there's a super rich history in regards to that show.
Also wouldn't it be awesome if WWE put out a best of SN dvd? I mean between WCW and NWA there has to be a couple of decades worth of shows if I'm not mistaken? Anyways man thanks for being, from what I can tell, the only entertaining wrestling reviewer on the web for a LONG ass time!
Also wouldn't it be awesome if WWE put out a best of SN dvd? I mean between WCW and NWA there has to be a couple of decades worth of shows if I'm not mistaken? Anyways man thanks for being, from what I can tell, the only entertaining wrestling reviewer on the web for a LONG ass time!
Sadly I didn't get TBS until 1991 so I didn't get to catch up on the 80s stuff until I got 24/7, so really my exposure was only in the early 90s. Obviously the show was mostly ignored by WCW once the Nitro era began, so it gives kind of a limited timeframe of great stuff to draw from. Off the top of my head, you've got things like Steve Austin v. Barry Windham 2/3 falls from the debut of the repackaged WCW Saturday night, Austin v. Steamboat in the TV title change, Vader v. Jack in the infamous powerbomb on the concrete, Brad Armstrong v. Great Muta, and probably others than I'm totally zoning on at the moment. If you're including the 80s version you can throw in a ton of awesome Midnight Express squashes, Steamboat & Eddie Gilbert v. Barry Windham & Ric Flair, Magnum TA v. Ole Anderson,and tons more. I think a DVD would totally be do-able.
Windham/Rhodes vs. the MVC for the tag titles is an EPIC.
ReplyDeleteEarly 90's wcwsn made my weekends. Yeah you had the wwf Saturday show but then there was an awesome two hour wrestling show that didn't just have jobber matches.
ReplyDeleteMaybe these don't count as matches, but the Road Warriors injuring Dusty Rhodes with a spike and Steamboat's return in the tag match (w/Eddie Gilbert vs. Windham/Flair) are two of the best moments.
ReplyDeleteOddly enough, does it seem like Barry Windham is in all of these matches?
Sting-Flair and Sting-Steamboat had **** matches on WCWSN. Going into the old studio TBS shows there is a plethora of stuff off shock value alone like Dusty going apeshit on Tully with the baseball bat. The Road Warriors spiking Dusty's eye. The Mulkeys victory. Paul E. Dangerously's Midnight Express hijacking Cornette's team. All the millions of Flair confrontations. Oh my goodness!
ReplyDeleteYeah, I absolutely loved "Saturday Night." I didn't watch WWF's syndicated show because it seemed to bounce all over in my area, but I remember WCW's Saturday morning show coming on at either 7:05 or 8:05 a.m., then they had a Sunday night show at...4:05 p.m.?
ReplyDeleteI miss tha muthaship. As a kid, I could not WAIT for 6:05 PM to roll around on Saturday nights.
ReplyDeleteI would definitely have to say.....
ReplyDelete1991: Ric Flair v. Brian Pillman
1994: Ric Flair v. Ricky Steamboat for the held-up WCW title
Those 2 come to mind. Going back to the 80s,
1984: Ted Dibiase v. Mr. R (Brad Armstrong)
1985: Ric Flair v. Ron Garvin (impromptu match)
Sunday show was Main Event and there was also a Saturday Monring show WCW Pro
ReplyDeleteI think a DVD would totally be do-able.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who's a Metalocalypse fan, I hope you understand why I quoted this part (think Nathan).
Flair-Steamboat from 1994 is a classic, far better than the PPV match they had that same year. Great match.
ReplyDeleteGod it was such an awesome show
ReplyDeleteSeem em both and I agree with your assessment.
ReplyDeleteI love that match too.
ReplyDeleteAh, thank you. WCW Pro seemed to be the show that featured TV Title matches. Not a problem because WCW smartly booked it to seem important back then.
ReplyDeleteJust jogging my memory a bit, but I seem to recall in October 1993, Buff Bagwell and 2 Cold Scorpio beat the Nasty Boys or Harlem Heat for the Tag Team titles on "Saturday Night" and it was treated as a huge upset. Then they went and lost at Halloween Havoc in a rematch like a week later. I just remember being pretty fucking pumped when they won.
ReplyDeleteThat's definitely underrated. I'd also include Dusty and Magnum as the James Gang against the Midnights.
ReplyDeleteYou also have the birth of the Dangerous Alliance angle from November 1991. Dangerously's promo was just fantastic. That angle should've lasted so much longer than it did.
ReplyDeleteThere's an awesome Flair/Windham vs. Midnight Express match from 1988 I believe. Also, don't forget Flair vs. Bobby Eaton in a 2/3 falls match.
ReplyDeleteLove that whole segment. Not a bad match either.
ReplyDeleteThat was Clash of the Champions, dude.
ReplyDeleteBagwell/Scorpio was a really cool tag team. I liked Stars & Stripes (Bagwell and Patriot) too.
ReplyDeleteThe flair v pillman match was fantastic
ReplyDeleteThe Horsemen-Midnights match was from Clash IV I believe and the Flair-Eaton match is from another Clash
ReplyDeleteThe Muta/Armstrong match is NOT good. Of all the misconceptions posted by Scott, this is one of the bigger ones when it comes to in ring work
ReplyDeleteHey bro one match you should check out that Scott can't help you with is defo CM Punk Vs Daniel Bryan at Over the Limit 2012. Easy ****+. Scott hasn't seen it so you mighta missed that one.
ReplyDeleteMan I miss WCW. I remember a really fun Sting/Steamboat - Flair/Austin tag match around '94. That's perfect DVD material.
ReplyDeleteI liked the later, Jimmy Hart-booked WCWSN when they basically gave Jimmy his own unvierse/angles. He took a bunch of Power Plant guys and gave them a platform. There are some episodes floating around YouTube. It's a breezy show.
ReplyDeleteWe're not only including the studio shows, are we? Because every 4th or 5th week they'd run a house show (minus the World title main event).. If we're including those shows, the options are immense..
ReplyDeleteI loved how WCW pro had the ring on a platform that rotated around.
ReplyDeleteThat's on Austin's latest DVD.
ReplyDeleteThe Austin/Steamboat tv title change was from a clash of champions (also released on Steamboats DVD), but there were a bunch of Austin/Steamboat TV title matches fem Dec 91 that would be worth putting on a DVD.
ReplyDeleteWhen The Bos had his surprise debut against Rick Rude on WCWSN
You can't have a WCWSN DVD without the infamous HE GOT A BICYCLE! match
ReplyDeleteShit, I'd watch a whole DVD of WCWSN jobber matches just to hear Dusty go on about guys gettin' to the pay winda'
Those were great.
ReplyDelete100% agree. 5 star classic and imo the moty
ReplyDeleteOh man that one was so awesome.
ReplyDeleteHow about Flair/Anderson/Roma v. Windham/Pillman/Austin from the week after the June 93 Clash of Champions?
ReplyDeleteIsn't their also a Flair/Steamboat v. Nasty Boys tag match from Saturday Night in the fall of 93?
Vader squashes, yes please.
ReplyDeleteDusty going nuts on Tully with the bat is imprinted on my mind. Such a great a shocking segment for those days. The only shitty thing is it led to the return of THE MIDNIGHT RIDAH, IF YOU WILL~!!
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Muta/Armstrong is like every other Muta performance on U.S. soil after '89. That is, a snoozefest.
ReplyDelete- Steamboat/Nikita/Dustin vs. Arn/Eaton/Zbyzsko, 2/3 falls from 5/23/92. Hard to keep track of all the great Dangerous Alliance 6-mans but I think this is the best.
ReplyDelete- Steamboat vs. Vader, 10/93 "Human Cage Match"--fancy name for a lumberjack match. As awesome as it sounds.
- Pillman vs. Flair, 2/17/90. One of Flair's first post-heel turn matches. Really good match but the electric atmosphere is what really makes it.
- Pillman/Zenk vs. Midnight Express, 3/10/90. An absolutely killer post-match angle is what elevates this one.
Damn, I completely misread his post. He was going for Saturday Night matches not Clash. Perils of multi-tasking.
ReplyDeleteI wonder why they don't try the old WCWWSN format with FCW guys and whatnot. Just have an experienced booker like Jimmy Hart book an old-time promotion with its wrestling matches, simple and logical feuds, treating the in-ring action seriously, competitive enhancement matches and giving the wrestlers time... oh yeah because everyone would like it better.
ReplyDelete*WCWSN. Also, betcha a Pepsi they could find a network who would take 2 hours of wrestling 6-8 EST on Saturdays.
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