Hi Scott,
Your blog is the best. Just wondering, what do you think the level of drug use is in WWE? I know they drug test, but do you think that the recreational drug use is pretty much done and the wrestlers really are staying in their hotel rooms like good little boys and girls?
Your blog is the best. Just wondering, what do you think the level of drug use is in WWE? I know they drug test, but do you think that the recreational drug use is pretty much done and the wrestlers really are staying in their hotel rooms like good little boys and girls?
Only if Randy Orton's two strikes are for pwning noobs at Halo.
Wrestlers do drugs. Always have. Always will.
ReplyDeletePlus Evan Bourne was getting high on Jesus...
ReplyDeleteAt the very least I'd say some smoke weed.
ReplyDeleteYes, and this is 100% conjecture on my part but I'd say this group of guys are more marijuana, hgh/testosterone types than soma and perc poppin', jack chuggin', coke snortin', steroid injecting fiends of years past.
ReplyDeleteI honestly don't see Punk and Bryan (two of the top fellas) doing much of anything. Same goes for the nerdy types like Otunga, AJ Lee, Natty Neidhart, and Kofi. However, those Euro guys like Claudio, Barrett, and Sheamus are wild cards.
Some do drugs. Some don't. Just like professional sports, we're probably past the days of half the guys doing cocaine on a daily basis; but at the same time it seems unlikely that rec use has completely died out.
ReplyDeletePeople do drugs. Always have. Always will.
ReplyDeleteI think they should make cocaine mandatory.
ReplyDeleteYou realize they're acting and don't necessarily conform to the stereotypes, right?
ReplyDeleteGiven the longstanding culture of wrestling, I'd guess a lot of these guys are users to one extent or another. The drugs are likely different than they were 25 years ago, but I imagine they are still prevelant. Painkillers are the recreational drug of choice for a lot of folks these days and are potentially more dangerous than many illegally obtained narcotics, so I doubt the strings of early deaths is totally over.
ReplyDeleteThe WWE PR department likes to sell the image that these guys are all good family guys that just play video games after work and don't touch anything harder than Diet Pepsi, but yeah, get out of here with that noise.
I dunno dude. With TMZ and how the internet culture is nowadays, you'd think you would hear more about drug abuse if it were prevalent. I'm sure most guys drink, smoke weed, and some HGH, but I bet that's it.
ReplyDelete^ This
ReplyDeletePretty sure Bryan is just as clean as Punk is, but thats what I took from the Wrestling Road Diaries.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's just his west coast roots that made me assume so.
ReplyDeleteSorry, Jeff's Inner Dialogue, think you misread this thread. This is discussing USERS, not DEALERS. Nothing of interest for you here.
ReplyDeleteAt least a quick snort before any backstage promo.
ReplyDeleteKane and Bryan get their highs from hugs.
ReplyDeleteWell, Rey Mysterio certainly loves his drugs, by the looks of it.
ReplyDeleteI don't understand why WWE is counts Marijuana as a strike. The lesser the pill related, deaths the better. I'd much rather my workers getting High and eating Pizza in their hotel rooms than possibly risking Heart Attack and bad PR.
ReplyDeleteCan't upvote this enough.
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking that while the use of cocaine (and cocaine accessories, dang it Bobby, I'll tell ya what...) has probably fallen off a bit, most of the WWE guys are still smoking weed (as am I). And abusing prescription pain pills, mostly with a doctor's approval. And still gassing, albeit in a safer, doctor-monitored way.
ReplyDeleteAnd just to throw this out there, I have no confidence in the WWE wellness policy. As a guy who has has tested clean on multiple drug tests despite smoking up a few hours before the test, I can tell you it's easy to pass any urine exam as long as you get a couple hours notice. I'm sure the WWE guys know that they're getting tested a day or two before it actually happens.
I smoked a cigarette with Randy Orton on George Street in St. John's, NL back in April 07. And for a guy making millions as a pro wrestler it was ME who gave him the smoke.
ReplyDeleteFor wrestlers painkillers aren't even really a recreational thing as much as a necessity, and most of them are likely doing them legally. No matter how much Vince tries to PG-up the product they're still making a living by doing constant back-bumps 300 days a year.
ReplyDelete"Painkillers... are potentially more dangerous than many illegally obtained
narcotics"
No shit, and it amazes me that these drugs are still allowed on the market. Well, really, it doesn't, because we all know that the FDA is really a lobbyist-funded arm of the pharmaceutical industry. But really, we can't deny the fact that there's TONS of people that were prescribed pills like Vicodin, Percocet, Oxycodone. and the like for minor injuries and turned into opiate addicts because of it. Yeah, the FDA is looking out for our best interests...
Was it one of those e-cigs? Probably not in 07, but seriously, e-cigs are pretty sweet. All the nicotine, but none of the stank breath and clothes or second-hand smoke you get from real cigarettes.
ReplyDeletePeople are people. Always are. Always will be.
ReplyDeleteAnyone who stood that close to Paul London has been high at least once. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSh2s_lmthI
ReplyDeleteWater is wet. Always has been, always will be.
ReplyDeleteI think that the days of mountains of cocaine and hard drinking just because it's Tuesday are probably mostly passed. That, in general, is not as fashionable as it used to be. But prescription meds are probably still being overused.
ReplyDeleteAnd weed, if you count that. I'm sure a high percentage of them smoke weed, especially if they are going home to play video games.
Honestly, you don't see Punk, the guy who punched a doctor for trying to give him a pain killer when he went to the hospital doing anything?
ReplyDeleteMeh I blame the pharmaceutical companies and their lobbyists more... they know these products are deadly and there are probably better alternatives ... but they make billions off of these things so they produce whatever data they want to in order to sell it to the regulatory agencies as non harmful. Same way food manufacturers get away with selling food that they have engineered to purposely be addicting. But I know it is en-vogue to hate the government so I'll play along "DAMN THE MAN! DON'T TREAD ON ME! RAND PAUL 2016!"
ReplyDelete^This. Out of anyone that has gotten popped for a wellness violation this one pisses me off the most.
ReplyDeleteBecause pot is illegal?
ReplyDeleteYeah I don't buy that, short of taking some clean piss in there with you
ReplyDeleteOnly in 47 states.
ReplyDeleteExcept when it's completely frozen.
ReplyDeleteFalse. It is still against federal law in all 50 states.
ReplyDeletePop into your local head shop and get the kit they sell, which includes some clean urine in an IV-type bag, those hand warmer-in-a-pouch things that hunters use (NFL QBs use them too, that's what they keep in that fanny pack they use for cold weather games) and usually a plastic tube that gets the urine from the bag to the cup. Pretty simple from there, you tape the piss bag to your gut or the inside of your thigh with the hand-warmer thing on the outside (piss test cups have a temperature gauge, so your piss has to be warm), and run the tube along the bottom of your dick with some discreet scotch tape. Even if the guy testing you is watching you, he's not staring at your dick or anything, he just makes sure your not pulling anything out of your pocket to fuck with the sample. Haul you junk out and use your arm to press on the bag and deliver the fake piss into the cup. It's easy, and you can buy powdered piss that you just mix with a bit of distilled water and mix it up real quick. Keep that shit in your bag and your good to go.
ReplyDeleteSo what? Marijuana is less dangerous for your body than most of the food you buy at the supermarket.
ReplyDeleteState law takes precedence over federal law. That's how same sex marriages are legal.
ReplyDeletePunk has about two pints of ink coursing through his veins.
ReplyDeleteBlame them more than who? My whole point was that the the pharmaceutical companies and their lobbyists can do whatever they want because the FDA allows it.
ReplyDeleteIf you knew you had a drug test coming up, why not just stop for a few days to get it out of your system?
ReplyDeleteTo quote Mr. Henry Rollins: “You would think that pot had some kind of power; I mean come on, it's a plant, not a reason for living. Controlled by a plant, how hilarious. A plant! A fucking plant!”
At this point I'd toss in a meth/ice joke, but I got nothing...
ReplyDeleteWell, weed stays in your system for 2 weeks to 2 months. So a few days won't help. you need a few weeks.
ReplyDeleteNot really, the feds were fucking with the medical dispensaries in Cali pretty hard. As far as weed goes federal law trumps state law.
ReplyDeleteI blame the industry more than the FDA. The FDA is not without blame, but I think the industry can produce enough tests and information that say what they want it to say that the FDA likely has a hard time determining what is true and what isn't. I mean what incentive does the FDA have to not regulate items they know to be harmful?
ReplyDeleteThat's debatable but I happen to agree... and if it were up to me I would outlaw a lot of food currently on the market as well.
ReplyDeleteOnly in the past year. DOMA was the law of the land from 1996 to 2012.
ReplyDeleteIt should be good fun when the HGH shit storm hits the NFL. I'm sure WWE won't be far behind.
ReplyDeleteThe biggest impact of DOMA was that a Same Sex-Marriage licence did not receive "full faith and credit" in states that choose to not recognize same-sex marriage as legitimate. Hetero Marriages need not apply for a new marriage licence when crossing state lines to have their marriage recognized by the state. Gay rights is one of the only areas where Obama has actually been decently consistent with his campaign promises, so it will be interesting to see if DOMA is scaled back towards the end of his second term.
ReplyDeletePro wrestling probably get 1 reporter around WrestleMania per year. TMZ is much more interested in Lohan, Kardashians, rappers, all the guest judges on singing shows, Cooney, etc.
ReplyDeleteGods the women's division is crap. The really need to just end it for a good long while. Keep some women as valet's if you'd like but kill the division.
ReplyDeleteOr if you're serious about fixing it. Ship them ALL off to OVW or somewhere where they can actually be trained, and developed and figure out some storylines and then bring the whole show back. It'd take a year but that's the only way I could see salvaging it at this point.
This is this. Always has been, always will be.
ReplyDeleteMLB has blood testing for HGH.
ReplyDeleteWhy shouldn't I?
ReplyDeleteSo you won't have to...
ReplyDelete"Pop into your local head shop and get the kit they sell, which includes
some clean urine in an IV-type bag, those hand warmer-in-a-pouch things
that hunters use (NFL QBs use them too, that's what they keep in that
fanny pack they use for cold weather games) and usually a plastic tube
that gets the urine from the bag to the cup. Pretty simple from there,
you tape the piss bag to your gut or the inside of your thigh with the
hand-warmer thing on the outside (piss test cups have a temperature
gauge, so your piss has to be warm), and run the tube along the bottom
of your dick with some discreet scotch tape. Even if the guy testing you
is watching you, he's not staring at your dick or anything, he just
makes sure your not pulling anything out of your pocket to fuck with the
sample. Haul you junk out and use your arm to press on the bag and
deliver the fake piss into the cup. It's easy, and you can buy powdered
piss that you just mix with a bit of distilled water and mix it up real
quick."
Also so your brain will work at optimum capacity and you won't be a lazy shit with the attention span of a 2 year old and the ambition of a slug... oh and so you won't be a criminal.
What?
ReplyDeleteDid I hurt your feeling again or something?
ReplyDeleteNo not at all. Just scoring your anti-drug trolling post. Pretty solid work, maybe even an 8 but all scores are final so I can't readjust it.
ReplyDeleteWho the fuck down-voted this? "Boo facts!" Some of you guys are such freakshows.
ReplyDelete47? What state legalized it besides Colorado and Washington?
ReplyDeletewhile I have no problem legal pot, comparing smoking pot and being so attached to it that you will tape other people's urine to your body to what Rosa Parks did is simply asinine.
ReplyDeleteI don't claim to be a pot expert. As someone who managed retail video stores for years, I don't have much use for pot smokers. They generally make crappy workers. That said, I'm fine with legalizing it and I don't foresee any mad rush from folks who don't smoke to spend all day in their basements smoking pot once it is legal.
ReplyDeleteHowever....when I think of the lowest moments in my life, I can assure you that strapping someone else's pee to my body would trump anything I've got. Seems kinda sad all in the name of pot.
wrong. and while I support legal pot, do we really want a country where states ignore laws they don't like? Mississippi brings back slavery? Utah bans non-Mormon churches? Some states just decide to legalize discrimination or ignore clean air and water laws? It's called a Union and as part of a union you have to have some consistency. It would be chaos if states could pick and choose which federal laws they follow. And it only gets worse as several state legislatures are taking pre-emptive action to pass "laws" that "exempt" their state from new firearm laws.
ReplyDeletethe issue with painkillers is the same as it was 20 years ago. Guys have multiple doctors giving them prescriptions, borrow from others, get them from friends and family, etc. Yes there are irresponsible doctors that give wrestlers (and everyday folks) too many painkillers. However the vast majority of wrestlers aren't able to get enough from their doctor and have to shop around and find other sources.
ReplyDeleteWho cares about downvotes? Has Scott ever banned anyone solely on the basis of too many downvotes?
ReplyDeleteIt's actually synthetic, not from another person.
ReplyDeleteI think they'd have a higher chance of finding HGH in HHH's blood than finding blood in his HGH.
ReplyDeleteI look at downvotes as "disagree." fair enough. Still can't "dislike" on Facebook, at least this community doesn't always pretend it's all coming up Milhouse.
ReplyDeleteIs it? i thought it was just a fine whereas Spice (synth-pot) was what invoked an actual strike.
ReplyDeleteThe this that was, the this that is, the this that ever will be!
ReplyDeletei recall the story being pot is a fine but no strike (and some guys would just pay up to keep toking) but synthetic stuff was a no no.
ReplyDeleteHey, she taped her ass to a white man's seat.
ReplyDeleteWhoever gets the most downvotes gets the stone of shame.
ReplyDeleteand my point is that strapping pee to your body to beat a drug test is NOT taking a stand. Taking a stand would be refusing to work anyplace that makes you take a drug test. Your analogy remains asinine.
ReplyDeleteSo is cocaine, yet they still do it.
ReplyDeletePoint being, for a company that went through a fuckton of bad press over the last 5 years, it's ridiculous they treat marijuana like it's fucking PEDs.
I agree with your idea of fixing it, but if they really are interested to me they just take the same idea they're toying with for the midcard. Bring back some of the old Divas they cut.
ReplyDeleteAnd to think, they really wouldn't have had an issue if they were patient with Kharma.
Upvote for the King of the Hill reference.
ReplyDeleteThat sounds like an euphemism.
ReplyDeleteYeah it's a big problem for wrestlers and for the general public too. They are pretty responsible for my mother's death -- she did a whole lot of doctor shopping herself too.
ReplyDeleteClaudio isn't swole enough to be juicing. I heard he's a pretty clean guy, but clean is relative, y'know?
ReplyDeleteI remember reading that was part of Mongo's prematch preparation.
ReplyDeleteBeats getting the stone of triumph.
ReplyDeleteIt can't be what you're thinking. He didn't win the NWA World Title.
ReplyDeleteWrong. Taking a stand in that manner would mean that Rosa Parks never gets on a segregated bus. Beating a drug test gets you a job that The Man is trying to keep you out like, like Parks taking a white man's seat did.
ReplyDeleteWest Virginia is not really a state. It's just a Virginia wannabe.
ReplyDeleteWest Virgina hasn't legalized weed. Maybe for medicinal use, but not full-on.
ReplyDeleteI know people are always wary of any sort of registry or database (see the gun control debate as one example), but a national database those types of drugs that included all doctors or pharmacies would be very helpful in cutting down on that. I know in my area a doctor got busted for writing painkiller prescriptions for anyone who asked for the "right fee" A database of doctors would allow for oversight and see which doctors had high rates of those types of prescriptions (currently insurance companies can get some sort of picture but if a doctor has a wide range of insurance companies, government programs, and uninsured it can take time to find a problem doctor) and for pharmacies that show people that are getting more than their "fair share" of certain types of medications could be helpful. Unfortunately it could very well be seen as intrusive if doctors can't get a prescription filled for a patient without entering it into the database (the only way to prevent off the database prescriptions being written) and if there is ANY chance that the info could be used by employers, schools, government, etc. to discriminate.
ReplyDelete*whoosh*
ReplyDeleteI see you're too stoned to think clearly right now. Perhaps another time.
Outlawing food? Jesus H. Christ, man, what do you when you're not saving the world from itself? I beat you're a real hoot at parties.
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