The SmarK RAW Rant – 01.28.13
Live from Las Vegas, NV
Your hosts are Michael Cole, JBL & Jerry Lawler
CM Punk joins us to start, and he’s not in a good mood. The Rock is a CHEATER and so is everyone in the arena, allegedly. Somehow I don’t see “Phoenix Screwjob” catching on. This brings out Vince, who has an anonymously donated videotape tying Punk to the Shield. That’s exactly the sort of thing a flesh-peddling promoter like Vince WOULD say.
Randy Orton v. Antonio Cesaro
The roulette wheel spun “Guest Referee” for this match, so of course it’s the Miz. Cesaro pounds away in the corner, but gets clotheslined by Orton for two. Backdrop suplex gets two. They head to the floor and Orton drops Cesaro onto the railing and throws forearms on the apron. Back in, Orton catapults him under the rope and gets two. They exchange forearms and Cesaro wins that battle, but Orton backdrops him onto the floor and we take a break. Back with Cesaro in control after running Orton into the post, and that gets two. Cesaro with the CRAVAT on Orton, but Orton fights up, so Cesaro hits him with a Michinoku Driver for two. The deadlift suplex gets two. Orton comes back with more clotheslines and the powerslam, but Cesaro hits him with the BOLO FOREARM and gets two. God I love that move. Orton tries the draping DDT, but Cesaro escapes and fires away in the corner, forcing Miz to pull him off in a shitty refereeing job. Cesaro of course argues, and walks into an RKO at 12:48. That was some seriously poor officiating there. Gorilla Monsoon would be AGHAST. ***
Meanwhile, Ryback apparently has to make Vickie laugh as a result of the roulette wheel.
Make Me Laugh Challenge: Ryback v. The Primetime Players
So they have to tell jokes, and neither of them are funny, but it doesn’t matter because Ryback just beats them up anyway. Totally pointless.
Wade Barrett v. Bo Dallas
Wade gets to choose his own opponent, so the choice was obvious. Dallas gets some shots in, but walks into a kick and gets booted out of the ring. Back in, Barrett loads up the elbow, but walks into a suplex and gets pinned at 2:09. Good, about time we had an upset storyline. *1/2
Cody Rhodes v. John Cena
Cena with the hiptoss and dropkick to start, and a suplex puts Cody on the floor. Cody decides to walk out, so Cena throws him back in and finishes with the FU at 1:41. Well that was about as much of a squash as you can get. ½* After that silly match stuff is out of the way, we get to the important stuff: The talking! Cena ponders whether to challenge the WWE or World champion and points out that the WWE champion will either be Punk or Rock, even though they still haven’t announced that as the main event of Elimination Chamber. Way to SPOIL it, John. He claims to have “no chance” to beat either man, but challenges the WWE champion anyway…and here’s the Shield. The beatdown commences, but Sheamus saves, only to get beaten down as well. So Ryback makes the last save, but he also gets beat up, and this would look to be another Chamber PPV match.
Dance Off: Tensai v. Brodus Clay
Sadly, Tensai thinks it’s a lingerie pillow fight due to a wacky misunderstanding with the wheel. Luckily Ron Simmons is there to offer his punchline. Yeah, this was awful.
Body Slam Challenge: Alberto Del Rio v. The Big Show
Yes, apparently this feud MUST CONTINUE. No match, as Show attacks and knocks ADR out before the bell, then duct-tapes him to the ropes and destroys Ricardo instead. A fine heel beatdown, but it just went on WAAAAAY too long. Plus I really don’t want to see this match yet again.
Kaitlyn v. Tamina Snuka
This is a lumberjills match with the women dressed as showgirls. There’s only six of them out there because that’s literally all that’s left. Tamina pounds away and goes to a chinlock, then dumps her for some abuse from the limited heel presence. Aksana, basically. Back in, Kaitlyn comes back as even Cole and Lawler are burying the match. Finally everyone just runs in for a brawl and they mercy-kill it at 3:00 of hell. JBL’s “So this thing started on a higher level?” snark was the best part of it. Early contender for Worst Match of the Year, easily. -***
Finally, The Rock has come back to Vegas. Tonight, it’s the start of the People’s Era, so it’s pie for everyone. CM Punk is not OK with that and comes out to protest the loss of his title, and ends up challenging Rock for the PPV after Cena already gave it away.
Tables Match: Sheamus v. Damien Sandow
Sandow wisely runs away to start, but Sheamus sets up the table and beats on Sandow outside. Back in, Sandow uses an armbar takedown onto the table, then goes outside and finds a second table. He destroys Sheamus’ bad arm using the legs, and they fight onto the apron, but Sheamus slingshots back in with a shoulderblock. Sandow comes back with the ELBOW OF DISDAIN and viciously rams Sheamus into the side of a table. Sheamus gets the forearms on the apron and puts Sandow through a table with White Noise at 7:17. OK, he beat Sandow again, so what? **1/2
Karaoke Challenge: Zack Ryder v. The Great Khali
After yet another god-awful “comedy” segment with Khali singing Shawn Michaels’ theme song, 3MB interrupts and gets beaten up. Three hour RAWs, folks.
Chris Jericho returns to hopefully save this show. Jericho thanks the fans for the welcome, but Dolph Ziggler and his entourage interrupt. AJ reminds us that she fired Jericho six months ago, and Jericho wonders if “Big E” refers to Langston’s bra size. Dolph questions Jericho’s contract status, so Vickie appears and notes that she signed him, then makes a match with them as a team tonight against Hell No.
Kane & Daniel Bryan v. Dolph Ziggler & Chris Jericho
We take a break immediately and return with Ziggler controlling Bryan, but Jericho tags himself in and hits Kane with the springboard dropkick. Bryan escapes from the Walls and brings in Kane, but the dissention continues between them, although Kane is still able to chokeslam Ziggler at 5:00 anyway. Good to see Ziggler’s right back to jobbing again. ½*
Your next Hall of Famer: Trish Stratus. If Tammy can get in, then sure, why not?
Main Event Performance Review: Vince McMahon v. Paul Heyman
Vince comes right out and asks if Paul has Brad Maddox or the Shield under contract, which Heyman denies. He does admit to being a liar every day of his life, though, because that’s what promoters do. So Vince shows SECRET FOOTAGE of Heyman admitting to everything on tape, including paying off the Shield and Maddox. So apparently the anonymous source was Maddox’s cameraman. Heyman plays the “It wasn’t me” card and claims it’s all a conspiracy against him. But before Vince can fire him, it’s BROCK LESNAR. Vince tells Brock not to do anything stupid, but Brock gives him an F5 anyway. So that’s how we’re getting to Brock-HHH 2 for Wrestlemania. Just accept it.
The Pulse
The ending was pretty great, but HOLY GOD were there some of the worst segments in the history of the show leading up to it, and most of everything else was totally pointless. Even the Rock and Brock combined couldn’t save RAW Roulette. This one should have stayed in Vegas.
I cannot believe that they don't even bother trying to make things interesting. Yes we all knew the three main matches at Mania, but f*** me, can they at least try and make it interesting so there is some good viewing until April?
ReplyDeleteCan't believe you shit on the ADR-Big Show segment. Thought it was great. And I actually want to see them have a match where they are not burdened by the LMS stip.
ReplyDeleteLeave a message...i get that a lot of people are mad about the finish and all, but im loving this fued.
ReplyDeleteI think its great how these two, Punk and Rock, have made it feel like they're old bitter rivals after only FOUR WEEKS.
Also, i think im starting to dig Rybacks whole schtick.
I used to question just how over he was with the crowd (the feed me more chants were piped in imo) but i dont think its a question anymore
Wow. What an awful RAW. Thanks for the spoiler there Cena.
ReplyDeleteThe only way to salvage this farce is to do Brock/Punk at WM by way of having Vince having to crawl to Punk and beg him to beat Brock Lesner, turning Punk face and ending this failure of a heel run once and for all.
ReplyDeleteHHH can have his annual circle jerk with Undertaker, for all I care.
Show knocking out ADR and taping him up in retaliation for the Rumble was great. Then it went on and on and ON for like 5 minutes after the point was already made.
ReplyDeleteIf there are THREE segments that are so bad the announcers are burying them while they're still in progress, they might want to book the show a little different. Just a suggestion.
ReplyDeleteCesaro with the CRAVAT on Orton
ReplyDeleteCRAVAT~ is a Chris Hero thing.
Why did Dennis Stamp belong on the RAW roster?
ReplyDeleteBecause he's not cooked.
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What do you call a US Champion who cheers the heels and boos the faces?
Antonio Bizarro
Your next Hall of Famer: Trish Stratus. If Tammy can get in, then sure, why not?
ReplyDeleteWhoa whoa whoa, slow your role there. Trish is more than deserving.
ADR-Big Show III: Last Man Singing!
ReplyDeleteI thought the length worked because of how powerless ADR was to stop it.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you call Davey Boy Smith after he croaked?
ReplyDeleteThe British Bullfrog
Something tells me you're getting your "kick out of multiple finishers" match between Rock and Punk at EC.
ReplyDeleteTry increasing your alcohol intake during the show.
ReplyDeleteendorsed.
ReplyDeleteTrish Stratus gets a "then sure, why not?" From eye candy and awkward on the mic to the most complete female performer the company has ever had, Trish earned everyone's respect. By her last couple of years, she was no longer in any demeaning bra and panty matches even if they were still commonplace at the time. She had integrity. She had talent. She may be the only female wrestler that broke the 3-star barrier multiple times in WWE (matches with Lita, Mickey, and Jazz come to mind). Outside of the ring, she upped her game as well. She had chemistry with a few of the wrestlers in backstage segments and the words "Evil Trish" bring a smile to every fan's face.
ReplyDeleteLastly, she was quite possibly the only woman on this planet to get people to side with a team that had Snooki on it.
It's more like "thank you" or "it's about time" than "why not." She's more deserving of this than Sunny ever was.
PS - I think she looks even hotter without the implants and bleach these days
And this blog will be flooded with "That's the match they should have had at Rumble!" comments.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you on all of this except in one spot: replace Jazz with Molly. There ya go!
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking there were a few late segments switches going on, and that Cena was originally supposed to come out after the Rock/Punk confrontation. That it got mentioned anyway is a tribute to Cena's improv skills (or lack thereof)
ReplyDeleteso does this mean we can all stay off the computer & enjoy the show? :)
ReplyDeleteLawler should threaten to quit if The Kat isn't inducted!
ReplyDeleteOr is he not fighting her battles anymore?
I simply think that Cena has lost the synapses in his head that connect cogent, coherent, relevant thoughts into sequence. He is off his rocker lately.
ReplyDeleteForgot about that.
ReplyDeleteI believe you mean Kassius Ohno. I'm not aware of anyone named Chris Hero.
ReplyDeleteI absolutely LOOOOVED Molly Holly!
ReplyDeleteAt least we'll get it. The match they had at RR was finally starting to kick it into the next gear until the silly overbooked finish. I was waiting for Rock to say on the mic "I wasn't powerbombed Vince...I was F5'd" for the ultimate swerve that night.
ReplyDeleteWith a shitty name like Chris Hero, he is probably some random indy geek.
ReplyDeleteGod, I was fat 10 years ago. I've lost 40 lbs since this day!
ReplyDeleteWhat would your gimmick name be? I have a hard time coming up with one that uses my first name, at least.
ReplyDeleteIt's okay... no one's looking at you. No offense.
ReplyDeletehahaha right on
ReplyDeleteWaldorff Theodore Federson
ReplyDeleteOkay, if you couldn't use your ACTUAL name...?
ReplyDeletePERISH FORBID!
ReplyDeleteDon't forget that her feud with Mickie was the only time Mickie was remotely interesting.
ReplyDeleteHuh huh... "cooter"... heh heh
ReplyDeleteMario, it markets itself.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention she's the only Diva besides Lita to MAIN EVENT an episode of Raw. Not the last match on the card before the main event interview, the actual main event, the last thing viewers saw that Monday.
ReplyDeleteNot one Diva can honestly say that.
How?
ReplyDeleteTroll Fuj: Activate.
ReplyDeleteUm Sunny is a wayyyy better performer than Trish was. Sunny wasnt a wrestler she was a worker and was a great one. Trish was part of the machine.
ReplyDeletedamn cult... this got put in the wrong spot.
ReplyDeleteJumpy much? Or just waiting to be a bitch?
Ehh...depends on the gimmick. If I was a generic NXT guy...Lee Daniels sounds cool enough if I had to keep the rest of my career.
ReplyDeleteNot a very good Raw. Was surprised to see 3 instances of the phrase "Punk ass bitch" though. I'm not as excited as I would have been 2 nights ago about a Rock/Punk rematch, but still could be decent. Good ending but I think it's proof that Lesnar needs to be around more often than twice a year. His heat is suffering and jobbing him to Triple H won't fix that.
ReplyDeleteI'm just that quick witted.
ReplyDeletetakes two to tango. Mickie was given nothing after that and she became generic diva 9045905
ReplyDeleteWhy do they use real sounding names now? Why not have a ring name like Rock or Edge? Not every guy needs a first and last name. Give it some diversity.
ReplyDeleteBecause all the cool ones like Rock or Edge have been taken.
ReplyDeleteOr quick to be a bitch?
ReplyDeleteButt Hurt Fuj: Activate.
ReplyDeleteWrestlemania XXIX: Forgone Contusion.
ReplyDeleteSeriously though, fuck this company.
I thought it would have worked better had it not dragged on so damn long. There's a difference between a giant taking his time, and lumbering around in quick sand.
ReplyDeleteAnd why didn't ADR just unravel the duct tape with his free hand?
Go duct tape your hand to something and see how fast you can unravel it.
ReplyDeleteWell yeah those have been taken but can't they come up with some new ones? I can't off the top of my head..but I'm not paid to do so lol. That damn Brock Lesnar lucked into one of the best names ever.
ReplyDeletecultstatus: defender of the duct
ReplyDeleteI thought his real name was Bork Laser.
ReplyDeleteI was glad to at least see some resolution in the Brad Maddox/Shield working with Punk and Heyman though. So I take it we get Maddox going rogue and The Shield moving into a feud with Orton, Sheamus, Ryback to transition them into somewhat of more consistent performers.
ReplyDeleteAdorable. Now who is the troll really?
ReplyDeleteHow about you try and get comment of the day, and let the serious commenters talk about wrestling?
Ok champ?
I guessing the Mad Ox sticks around as their lackey and they use him to feed to the babyfaces.
ReplyDeletehuh huh...you said, "cooter."
ReplyDeleteThis feud over who the better wrestler is just turned into a blood feud!
ReplyDeleteCalling you out on your shit isn't trolling. If you can't handle the jokes, 411 might be more your speed.
ReplyDeletebecause cussing is cool.
ReplyDeleteSo do you think they'll do Shield vs. Orton, Sheamus, Ryback inside Elimination Chamber or save that match for WrestleMania?
ReplyDeleteboy, this 1990 Rumble is horrible.
ReplyDeleteThis wont get you comment of the day champ.
ReplyDeleteTroll harder.
Daniel Bryan!?
ReplyDeleteMy guess is Shield vs Cena/Sheamus/Ryback at EC. Maybe add Brock and HHH to each team and tweak the Elimination Chamber match to make it a little more WarGames.
ReplyDeletethat requires way too much effort from the WWE Braintrust.
ReplyDeleteYES!
ReplyDeleteHe posted seconds after me... lol... after a mistaken post....
ReplyDeleteIts so cute though. He should be in bed.
I'm meh about COTD.
ReplyDeleteTroll hard with a vengeance.
ah yes, the sequel to Troll Hard starring Justin Long
ReplyDeleteI'm sure they could just add two more pods to the chamber and make it 4 on 4 wargames. 2 starts then stagger the entrances. It could get a little too crammed in there though.
ReplyDeletelogistically, i don't see where they could feasibly add the pods. mount them to the ceiling?
ReplyDeleteWhat was the mistake? Because you trolled about Trish in another post above. And posted seconds after you because it popped up on my screen and I come up with a joke that fast.
ReplyDeleteWOULD YOU PLEASE...
ReplyDeletequiet down? Some of us are trying to post here!
Way better worker if we are talking about work on their knees. Sunny had no staying power at all, she has zero on Trish.
ReplyDeleteIts either comment of the day, or top post count... Something to satisfy that ego.
ReplyDeleteIts all yours champ. lol
You forgot most upvotes.
ReplyDeleteNo just on either side between the corner pods.
ReplyDeleteNO!
ReplyDeleteIf only the AWA was still around, you could be booking Team Challenge Series 2013.
ReplyDeleteYES! YES!!
ReplyDeleteWrong but you must be right? right?
ReplyDeletemost posts
most upvotes
you are the authority round here.
You got it champ, Im sorry. lol
You right though, I was trying to talk wrestling, i got trolled.
ReplyDeletetooooo crowded, methinks. already pretty damn crowded in there as it is. but why not just do a wargames-style match in the OLD version Hell in a Cell...uh--cell? that could work. we don't need 2 rings. I say us the old version of the cell because the new one is too freakin' tall.
ReplyDeleteI tried that last night, it didn't work.
ReplyDeletedoesn't work for shows you expect to be good, like Royal Rumble.
ReplyDeleteGet this man a trophy!
ReplyDeletemaybe.
ReplyDeleteWabbit season.
ReplyDeleteSunny self-destructed on drugs, when she was on, way bigger heat machine than Trish.
ReplyDeleteDont get me wrong Trish is/was fine... Do horrible things to be with her. (not kiss a dude but close) but she is Jeff Hardy... Kennedy... all WWE machine.
If she would have went somewhere else, she would have been exposed.
Totally! Am I wrong or wasn't it supposed to be No name calling week?
ReplyDeleteA medal will do fine. Trophies tend to get smashed over the head of the recipient.
ReplyDeleteWell said. After seeing the abomination of the divas match tonight, Trish should be glad she came up when she did, she'd had no shot of success in today's WWE.
ReplyDelete2edgy4me
ReplyDeletemedals get taken by child murderers.
ReplyDeleteMy memory is hazy, but what came about that besides the fact they were talented, I mean pimping a Divas match for a RAW is one thing but straight up main eventing is another.
ReplyDeleteThat's just as odd as Lita and Victoria having a Steel Cage match.
And by lazy wrestling writers.
ReplyDeleteDUCK SEASON, FIRE!
ReplyDeleteI agree that Sunny was phenomenal in terms of charisma and her talent as a manager, but Trish had her beat in terms of wrestling skill. Also, and this may or may not be Sunny's fault but Trish had more memorable feuds with Lita and Mickie James. One of which main evented Raw and one of which featured a match at WrestleMania.
ReplyDeleteI think Trish deserves to go into a WWE Hall of Fame before Sunny.
As for her being exposed elsewhere I agree that's highly likely, but it's strictly conjecture.
and retar... idiot savants....
ReplyDeletethat was a fun quiz show on MTV with Greg Fitzimmons as the host.
ReplyDeleteMurph is drunk in a ditch somewhere right now. You can say it.
ReplyDeleteSunny did wrestle. So hands down Trish has her beat.
ReplyDeleteAnd memorable feuds is POV... subjective. To me Trish had one. Mickie.
Sunny had none, but Sunny was imo the originator to all the Diva shit they pull out nowadays and plus the little ive seen her in SMW was enough for me to say, yes she had talent and charisma from a young age. whereas Trish had to learn it, Sunny just was a natural.
But her biggest detriment to me is that Trish was brought up through the WWF machine whereas Sunny was one of the last of the "territories" if you can accept SMW as a territory, not as a feeder system. She honed her craft on the small stage so when she got the bigs... there was no tweaking, whereas Trish went through a couple of character tweaks before she became TRISH STRATUS.
but ur right, its conjecture. Im a sunny fan
Comparing the two is like comparing Hogan to Flair. It's pointless because they're so different. They're both Hall of Famers but when you compare the resumes, Trish wins in a landslide. Sunny's only years of relevance were 95 and 96.
ReplyDeleteShe brought more to the table though, she could actually do stuff in the ring. At her best point she probably wasnt as over as Sunny was at hers but Trish strikes me as the type of person that would rise to the top in whatever she does.
ReplyDeleteI'd say the Lita feud is highly memorable too. Plus she had the run with Christian as a heel.
ReplyDeleteAnd I think part of what makes Trish so interesting is that we saw her go from just another big titted woman, to someone who slowly became more charismatic, to someone who could actually go in the ring. We saw her improve and improve and improve. Whereas with Sunny as you said it was always there. She always had the charisma. It came naturally. She never improved as a wrestler like Trish did. Granted she never had the talent around her like Trish did. Sunny had Marlena and Sable.
Just gotta give the nod to Trish even though I am a big Sunny fan as well.
That could work too. With WWE not wanting 2 rings it really affects the possibility of having that style of match.
ReplyDeleteCouldnt agree more with that last statement.
ReplyDeleteI meant to put a NOT in there. She was never considered an in ring performer.
ReplyDeleteYou talk like Trish had a Ric Flair-esque career... Her years of revelance were like 04-06
ReplyDeleteContusion?
ReplyDeleteConclusion. FIFY.
But Wrestlemania XXIX already has a subtitle: UNWANTED REMATCHES
Her peak may be 04-06 but her relevance was way longer than that.
ReplyDeleteBrian Knobbs doesn't do it for you?
ReplyDeleteI'm confused why everyone is so excited about the Heyman/Vince/Lesnar angle. It's just going to lead to HHH/Lesnar, which everyone was groaning about yesterday.
ReplyDeleteIf you're being served a steaming pile of crap as your main course, it really doesn't taste any better being delivered by (insert your favorite hot fantasy girl). Delivering HHH/Lesnar with a hot kick off angle is no different.
I tried that during the rumble and just ended up stopping half way because the PPV wasnt cutting in. Plus the host I had was crap.........so my rumble experienced really sucked this year.
ReplyDeleteI'm a Saggs guy.
ReplyDeletemy Rumble host was actually my boss. His wife cooked up some red beans & rice, corn & cornbread and we ate the hell out of it. great time!
ReplyDeleteI would probably go with "Lazer Wolf", probably the most badass name to come out of a musical ever!
ReplyDeleteThat was 1991
ReplyDeleteTeach me how to Dougie.
ReplyDeleteSo wait. I'm not supposed to enjoy great TV because of where it might lead? Sounds like a shitty way to watch wrestling.
ReplyDeleteWho isn't?
ReplyDeleteI don't even count her as a female.
ReplyDeleteI like the idea and how they've worked it too, but it's useless to me when the result isn't in doubt at all.
ReplyDeleteThis is what WWE's programming is like:
Crap ---------> mind rape
Awesome ----------> mind rape
And after mind rape is the steps "???" and "profit" I guess.
fuck that murdering sack of shit, Oh I forgot that he entertained us, which ranks higher rthan double murder so we should remember all the good he's done, Or whatever mental gymnastics is necessary to celebrate a child murderer these days.
ReplyDeletelol... nice.
ReplyDeleteOf course you can enjoy it, it was a great closing angle. But my excitement was held in check knowing where it's headed. I prefer something where we don't know where it's going.
ReplyDeleteIt might not go there though. Be disappointed when it happens.
ReplyDeleteBut if the build is great, then it won't matter.
ReplyDeleteSome crowds are still chanting "Goldberg" at him which I personally don't get because the booking of his character is 180 degrees different from the way Goldberg was booked.
ReplyDeleteFor one thing, Goldberg never lost 5 big matches in a row whereas Ryback has.
If the crowds want to compare Ryback to a past wrestler, then they should be chanting "Luger! Luger!" or "Malice! Malice!" at him because his current push is far more comparable to those two choke artists.
They can even take it one step further by comparing him to choke artists in real sports by chanting "Romo! Romo!" or "Danica! Danica!" at him.
Just Christ dude, do you just sit there and wait for the first mention of Benoit and fly off the handle?
ReplyDeleteDanica can be my "choke artist" any day of the week, and yes, I am implying oral sex.
ReplyDeleteHe made ADR watch as he beat Ricardo's ass. That more than justified the length to me.
ReplyDeleteOk, I'll LIPOSWIG. The Rumble didn't give me a lot of hope.
ReplyDeleteThe best episode of ST:TNG was a mind rape!
ReplyDeleteVickie Guerrero has had a longer period of relevance than Trish!
ReplyDeleteWhy do I get the feeling that they are setting the stage for a Wrestlemania 29 Dolph/AJ vs Jericho/Trish mixed tag match?
ReplyDeletereal talk, you're right.
ReplyDeleteObviously his crimes are disgusting but if I ignored the art or entertainment made by people who disgust me or have done shitty things, there'd be a lot of great stuff I'd never get to enjoy. Lou Reed was fond of punching women - doesn't stop me from listening to Velvet Underground records. Ditto Steve Austin and watching his matches. Nick Olivieri held his girlfriend hostage but I still like some Queens of the Stone Age record. I could go on ad nauseum but the point is that it's pretty easy to seperate entertainment and those who are responsible in it. Granted there's less disconnect with Benoit because his form of entertainment involved violence but making out like people are awful if they can stomach watching his matches is ridiculous. We're all appalled by his crimes - nobody wins an award for being the most outraged.
ReplyDeleteI'm actually going to defend Cena here for a second by saying that he probably mentioned Rock and Punk as possible opponents simply because he's been around so long that he assumed there was a rematch clause. He's used them himself a few times.
ReplyDeleteSo what would you say is more likely for WM? Rock-Cena 2, Brock-HHH, and Punk-Taker? Or does Punk get the belt back at EC due to Lesnar-ference to set up Punk-Cena, Rock-Brock, and Taker-___, assuming there even is a Taker match at all?
"Trish had her beat in terms of wrestling skill" .... what kind of comparism is that? I mean, of course Trish beat her in that category because Sunny did not really wrestle at all (and didn't want to) but a valet (thats like saying "The Undertaker beats Paul Bearer in terms of wrestling skill"). but in terms of charisma, the are both pretty much on the same level.
ReplyDeleteAgree with Fuj, Sunny was the most natural female performer. As Scott said more than once the problem they had was she was so over she over shadowed any wrestler they put her with. When Sable got the Sunny push it just showed how much more talented Sunny was and Sable was the true beneficiary of the WWE machine.
ReplyDeleteTrish-Lita, both as a heel and a face, Trish-Mickie, evil Trish and the forgotten Trish-Steph match were all awesome
Punk/taker is not happening. Just like punk/Austin.
ReplyDeleteBlatant angle ripoff but it's been 13 years, Raw night after EC - Brock/Punk/Shield vs. Cena/Rock/Orton/Sheamus/Ryback....and after the heels win GONG. think the blog would break. Is Raw in Dallas anytime sooN?
ReplyDeleteFeel free to stop watching.
ReplyDeleteScott Hall.
ReplyDeleteMax Greevey on the original Law and order gunned down in cold blood. Blew me away.
ReplyDeleteDo not know why this posted here...
ReplyDeleteThis is an internet wrestling forum. We complain before it happens, while it's happening, and once it's happened, thank you very much.
ReplyDeleteThat was SPECTACULAR that you just jumped in right there. out of nowhere.
ReplyDeleteWay to live the gimmick.
Because disqus sucks.
ReplyDeleteThanks for clearing that up.
ReplyDeleteChallenge accepted!
ReplyDeleteWhy would Vince McMahon be giving Paul Heyman a performance review? As far as I know, Paul Heyman doesn't work for him. He works for Lesnar and CM Punk as their agent.
ReplyDeleteMeh it needed more slut shaming of Troi afterwards...
ReplyDeleteThere is a guy in the indy fed I have been working with (who has apparently been in the business for 100 years) that goes by the name/gimmick of "The Original Super Mario" and despite being a fat old man he is crazy over with everyone there.
ReplyDeleteI think it is something they want to do so they sound more like a legit sport and not a carney act or some shit that an advertising agent probably told Vince.
ReplyDeleteI don't think I have enough upvotes
ReplyDeleteI assume that you're not talking about "The Inner Light".
ReplyDeleteAJ and Eve main evented episode 999 of RAW.
ReplyDeleteNo. I thought you were talking about the one where the race of aliens that helps people with lost memories came aboard the ship and mind raped Troi... I thought it was odd that you called it the best episode...
ReplyDeleteAs for The Inner Light I know it is sacrilege to some Trek fans but I think it is highly over rated. Good but not great...
dont agree with me, you get ostracized. gotta go with the hivemind.
ReplyDeletePlease God, not HHH/Brock again. If you don't book this match I promise I will order the PPV instead of stream it online. I'm not paying to watch 2 rematches with 4 characters who have undergone ZERO character development since the last time they all thought.
ReplyDeleteBoom! Headshot!
ReplyDeleteIs there someone else on the roster than you would rather job out to Brock?
ReplyDeleteTrish is deserving. I agree that in addition to the Tag renaissance, there was a Female awakening, as it were. Trish, Lita, Molly Holly, Ivory, Chyna (if you want though I'd be fine not counting her. That being said she was an over female performer.) Jazz, and if you want, Steph, Micky James. We won't see that like again I don't think.
ReplyDeleteI don't get it.
ReplyDeleteNow who's trolling?
ReplyDeleteThe General contractor can remove lower tier contractors from the work site if it feels that the work being performed isn't up to code and there's complaints from OSHA. Even if said lower tier contractor is below a subcontractor.
ReplyDeleteI think attacking people in a "low light" situation qualifies an OSHA review.
Erm... yes? Why would I want to see HHH job to him again? Worse still, what if HHH goes over? There's no point to this match whatsoever
ReplyDeleteMaking the End of an Era match simply the Dawning of the road to the End of an Era. I like it!
ReplyDeletenot me. my opinions back my stance, keep reading.
ReplyDeleteOh I have, I just keep tabs on things around this time for Mania's sake.
ReplyDeleteKeep trollin' on.
You show up to complain about a show you don't even watch. You're the troll.
ReplyDeleteJack Ezra
ReplyDeleteAm I the only one having issues with my phone (Droid) and disqus? It won't load the comments...
ReplyDeleteTrollin' on to higher ground!
ReplyDeleteWell the 4vs4 WarGames booking is pure fantasy... but with 6 "pods" you wouldn't need extra. 6 guys start in the pods... two start in the ring.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure the Jumping Bomb Angels and Glamour Girls broke that barrier a number of times.
ReplyDeleteAnd that's the last we hear of Mr_E_Mahn, until his untimely and confusing passing is reported on Fark
ReplyDeleteTrue enough, I suppose. However, the Glamour Girls were dragged past that barrier by the Jumping Bomb Angels despite their ability.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Ryback being over.. but if you recall, Las Vegas was the town that cheered the most for him when he was on the rise. He is billed from Sin City after all, so that reaction he got last night was more of a hometown pop.
ReplyDeleteThere's no such thing as logic in the WWE..
ReplyDeleteDid you know: the WWE has been depending on stars from 10 years ago to carry Wrestlemania for the past 3 years?
ReplyDeleteAs much as I love Trish.. I hope not... but that totally makes sense if they don't give Ziggler the belt any time soon.
ReplyDeleteThe JBA's were clearly better and the GG's weren't flashy but they were solid workers. They broke out some offense that wasn't seen much at the time. I think I remember Judy Martin giving one of the JBA's a Dominator.
ReplyDeleteI agree in terms of booking and some minor details, but after not watching in forever and then seeing Ryback for the first time, all I could think was how much of a Goldberg gimmick he had, or at least the WWEs concept of his gimmick. He's certainly got a very Goldberg-esque catchphrase too.
ReplyDeleteDespite workrate, neither team drew money for the company (merchandise, tickets, ppvs). They were filler for a few months in 1987--it's not a knock on them, it's just how they were presented at the time. Trish was in multiple main event programs that actually drew money (with Vince, HHH, Jericho, Lita, etc), learned to work, and carried herself very well (in and outside the ring). She is very deserving of being in a hall of fame that has Koko B. Ware and a limo driver, lol. Seriously though, she deserves kudos.
ReplyDeleteI'm not knocking Trish at all. She's the best female draw they ever had. I was responding to the statement, "She may be the only female wrestler that broke the 3-star barrier multiple times in WWE."
ReplyDeleteBy God the man is a senior citizen!
ReplyDeleteI love the Fuj, but Sunny was overrated, never drew, and needed to be babysat constantly. At least Sable was worth the trouble--Yeah Sunny was hot and sold a few calendars in 96, but she was able to hang out with the right people (Clique), and once her demons took over, she was done.
ReplyDeleteI actually think it's more gay to *not* be willing to kiss a dude to be with Trish. We're not talking about getting it from a dude.
ReplyDeleteThey seem to get stuck in these ruts, where they try to transition to a new era that doesn't quite work and then abandon it abruptly to play the nostalgia card. They've kind of been doing it on and off for the last 10 years, but I think in the modern era that WrestleMania 9 set the precedent for it. The pressure to do it is probably worse now since they are a public company and the day WrestleMania does a 2003 like number is going to cause some serious panic.
ReplyDeleteOK, so now that Brock just signed a two year deal and this will NOT be his last match, anyone think we get something other than Lesnar jobbing to HHH at Mania? Lesnar jobbing twice in his first 3 matches makes no sense if they want to make big money off him in the future, but at the same time I don't see the point in HHH losing a rematch. So what if Mania is where they do the big "War Games" (or whatever they change it to— "Hell Games" or something) with Lesnar/Shield vs HHH/Sheamus/Ryback/Orton? Plus they could do the finish of Orton turning heel on his team and costing them the match.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, my proposed Mania card. (Assuming Ziggler cashes in, and Rhodes Scholars FINALLY beat a breaking-up Hell No before then)
WWE Title: The Rock (c) vs John Cena
WHC: Ziggler (c) vs Jericho
Hell Games: Lesnar/Shield vs HHH/Sheamus/Ryback/Orton
Undertaker vs Punk
Daniel Bryan vs Kane
Tag Titles: Rhodes Scholars (c) vs Rey/Cara
MITB Ladder Match (why not?): Cesaro vs Barrett vs Big Show vs Del Rio vs Kofi vs The Miz vs Evan Bourne vs Christian
you putting the pussy on a .pedestal... i mean do what you do, but theres a line im not crossing to fuck a bitch. ive fucked enough bitches in my day without kissin a guy, whats one bitch?
ReplyDeleteyou mixin backstage and on camera. yes the bitch was a trainwreck, but when the camera was on her, she was on (before she got too chemically dependant)
ReplyDeleteagain im not shitting on trish, im saying dont say sunny wasnt in trish's league, cuz she was.... imo...