" Hulk Hogan discussed trying to get Vince McMahon to sign Sting after WrestleMania III during an interview with Fighting Spirit Magazine.
“I have unbelievable respect for Sting – he doesn’t realize how good he really is,” Hogan told FSM. “Sting should have already had his New York (WWE) run. I’ll tell you something; when I got red-hot after WrestleMania III, I was begging Vince to get Sting in the WWF so I could turn heel at some point. He had the blonde hair, he was 10 times more athletic than me, and I believed this guy could have the same run as Hulkamania, but take it 10 times bigger. I was telling Vince (McMahon), ‘Let me get this guy over’, because after beating Andre, if they’d brought Sting in and had him beat me, it would have made him this tall (gestures with his hand above his head).
But Sting wouldn’t come; we tried and tried, but he just would not jump. Vince even talked to him last year, but still Sting wouldn’t go.”"
I'd very much like to know your opinion on the most recent interview Hulk Hogan gave regarding Sting and the WWF/WWE. Thank you!
Sting was little more than a prelim guy in the UWF at that point. Hogan wouldn't even have heard of him until he cut into Wrestlemania IV's buyrate , brother.
I don't believe Hogan here either but isn't it possible WWF could have been interested in Sting around 1987? They signed Warrior after all and weren't the two tagging together at the time? And I love Sting to death but no way could have have been "10 times bigger" than Hogan. Sure he would have had a big or even huge run but his mic skills were far inferior to Hulk.
ReplyDeleteHogan's old, some of those years probably blend together especially with the drugs & wrestling lifestyle taking its toll. I doubt his mind is clear.
ReplyDeleteI think he means around WM6-8 somewhere in there Hogan vs Sting.
Hogan is such a lying sack o'shit. If a sack o'shit could lie, it would look like Hogan. Get Vince on the phone and try to corroborate this. Vince would probably say that Hogan is a lying sack o'shit. Or maybe it's true, and Hogan and Vince discussed it between snorts o'cocaine.
ReplyDeleteIt's just going to get worse, sadder, and--more importantly--funnier as he gets older.
ReplyDelete"Brother, Vince wanted me as the 1st string quarterback for the Orlando Rage! Said it was essential to the XFL's surival!"
There is genuinely no difference between this and Scott's pseudo-Hogan rant a few days ago
ReplyDeleteThreadjack: Chris Masters saved his mom from her burning home by uprooting a goddamn tree with his hands to bust in.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.upi.com/blog/2013/03/21/WWE-star-Chris-The-Masterpiece-Masters-saves-mom-from-burning-house/8021363873430/
Speaking of Hogan lies, Jason Newsted was on the Jason Ellis show not long ago and was talking about the group auditions for Metallica after Cliff died, and Tully from the show asked if Hulk was there. Newsted said that he actually was there. He might have been being sarcastic, but it is possible that Hogan was at the audition and just never got in to play for James and Lars. Still, the time frame makes me doubt it: Cliff died in Sept. Of 86. I forget exactly when they finally geared up to replace him but I think it was after a while in 87. So basically Hogan would've ditched being on top of the wrestling world coming off WM3 to join a metal band with a cult following but, at that point, limited mainstream success.
ReplyDeleteand these guy are good friends, right?
ReplyDeleteI don't even know how to respond properly to this. That's just so fucking awesome.
ReplyDeleteSting & Rock (Ultimate Warrior) weren't together at the time that the WWF signed UW. UW was wrestling in World Class by then under the Dingo Warrior name, and they retooled him slightly. WWF may well have know about them being a tag team since they were in Mid South together as well, but WCCW was where Hellwig had his biggest push.
ReplyDeleteAwesome!
ReplyDeleteThey hired Newsted in late November. His first show with them was 11/8/86, so the auditions were probably sometime in October. They decided to just keep on touring rather than take time off and mourn Cliff's death.
ReplyDeleteSo roughly two months after wrestling Mr. Wonderful in Toronto at The Big Event and five months before slamming the 700 pound nearly dead Andre The Giant at WrestleMania III, WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan was ready to throw it all away for a chance to be the bassist in Metallica, brother.
Vince is a lying sack o'shit too, though.
ReplyDeleteI'm confused by the title of this post. Hogan has lied in the past?
ReplyDeleteIf you weren't aware, Newsted started his own Motorhead-esque three man metal group, and it kicks ass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kRWwxCPyjw
ReplyDeleteIn fairness, that would have barely lowered the XFL's quality of play.
ReplyDeleteI think it's at least possible that if Sting came into the WWF as a big-time face in that time he could've developed similar promo skills. It's not like Hulk was CM Punk or Mick Foley with a mic in his hands, cutting promos that had any real depth. He was an unbelievably charismatic huckster. Maybe Sting never had the same gift of gab, but he was similar to Hulk in that he had a natural charisma that just exuded from him. So it would've been interesting, but I think Stinger could've been similarly huge to what Hulk was in the 80's WWF.
ReplyDeleteleave it to Hogan to make me a daily chuckle
ReplyDeletethat's amazing
ReplyDeleteWe're talking about a business that directly descends from carnies. Let me know when we find the honest guy.
ReplyDeleteYou know Hogan would've told the newspaper it was a 1,000-year-old Redwood, and he felt so bad about ripping it from the ground he used it to rebuild the house.
ReplyDeleteI agree Sting had and has unbelievable natural charisma, but you're underselling Hogan's promo skills. His coked-up promos sold many a show.
ReplyDeleteJust one other time: when he committed to love Linda forever.
ReplyDeleteWhat about Bischoff and Heyman?
ReplyDeleteEWWWWWWWWWWWW BURN!!!
ReplyDeleteGood to see Masters branching out since leaving WWE.
ReplyDeleteI won't lie, I would've paid to see that.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone ever seen the Comedy Central Roast of David Hasselhoff? Hulk Hogan was one of the roasters. But there were a few comedians on there that sent some shots Hogan's way, using such non-politically correct terms as "queer" and "homo". (I used them just now because I'm generally non-politically correct by trade). Anyway...is Hogan lying about his sexuality, and these people know something the common person doesn't? Does Hogan suck dick?? Other than as an in-ring performer, I mean.
ReplyDeleteJim Cornette's the closest example we're ever going to get to finding the truly honest at all times person.
ReplyDeleteWell, if you believe what the Warrior said during his YouTube rants, Hogan had an ongoing homosexual relationship with Brutish Beefcake and a few others.
ReplyDeleteFlair says that the biggest mistake Sting ever made was not going to the WWF. Yet, I wonder how Vince would of used him. Hogan wasn't putting Sting over in 1988. Come on, he wouldn't even put Andre over with a FUCKING 2 count. He just had to put his shoulder up at one. Would Vince have let Sting be Sting? According to JJ Dillion they had to teach Sting how to be Sting in 1988 as it didn't come natural to him.
ReplyDeleteLook how Hogan treated Sting when he arrived in WCW. When Hogan arrived in 1994, Sting was the International Champ or whatever, by the summer of the next year he's facing Meng for the US belt.
Especially Survivor Series '87 and Wrestlemania IV. Those two promos were fucking GOLD.
ReplyDeleteSomeone needs to get John Cena a bag of coke so he can cut the same kind of promo, A.S.A.P.
I totally agree, but I don't think I'm underselling him. You said it yourself: his promos sold many a show. Like I said: an unbelievably charismatic huckster. He was as good as anyone ever at doing what promos are supposed to do: get people in the building. And that's a skill that, if you have the corresponding natural charisma, I think can be learned easier than the verbal stylings of a truly gifted speaker like Punk, Foley, Rock (even though a lot of his schtick is largely a modernized version of Hulk's coked-up hucksterism, he's still undeniably one of the greatest all-around talkers ever beyond any reasonable argument), etc.
ReplyDeleteI see what you did there.
ReplyDeleteCena's still great when he drops the smiley bullshit, puts the bass back in his voice and puts his serious pants on.
ReplyDeleteSuper cool story. Great that he was able to save his mom. But...why did he need to uproot a tree to break a window? Wouldn't a rock and/or fist have been a lot simpler?
ReplyDeleteYou're kidding, right? I guest honest in the sense that he doesn't believe he's lying. But he's just as delusional as the rest of them.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, that super intense and insane style is really missing today. Those guys sounded like they CARED if nothing else. Can't say the same about guys like Miz or Cena today.
ReplyDeleteWait, that was a rant?
ReplyDelete"Speaking of worthless Americans... Hulk Hogan is here."
ReplyDelete"I'm thrilled Hulk Hogan is here, because every roast needs a dumb blonde with huge tits."
"Jeff Ross, I wouldn’t fuck you if I was Hulk Hogan and you were Brooke Hogan."
"Hulk, your daughter, Brooke Hogan, has blossomed into a very, VERY beautiful
young man."
"David Hasselhoff, George Hamilton, Hulk Hogan...I think if we've learned anything tonight, it's that self-tanner causes you to fail in the entertainment business."
"Look at what we got up here, huh? Jerry Springer, Hulk Hogan, George Hamilton and Gilbert Gottfried. I mean, if a bomb were to hit the stage tonight, the world would lose a bomb."
"I can't imagine why your wife left you...you're an old man who dresses like a Hooters waitress."
"Hulk, later on when these jokes are explained to you, you're gonna be so pissed."
Apparently Hulk has pretty much stated he'll never do another roast because he felt they roasted him worse than Hasselhoff.
*Fry squint*
ReplyDeleteI was trying to think of a good Hogan joke, but that one would probably top anything I could come up with.
ReplyDelete"Jeff Ross, I wouldn’t fuck you if I was Hulk Hogan and you were Brooke Hogan."
ReplyDeleteThat's amazing.
The only lie that Heyman has over told was, "Nah, don't worry about it. That check isn't going to bounce."
ReplyDeletethat's why Chris Masters is a superhero. This is some straight outta The Avengers stuff
ReplyDeleteI'm not so sure about that. I'm going to go review the 33 full length games that are uploaded on youtube to test your hypothesis:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/user/XFL101?feature=watch
Let me repeat that...33 FULL LENGTH XFL GAMES ARE ON YOUTUBE. You really can find anything on the Internet. I really hope XFL101 is a poster on rspwfaq.
"Nah, ECW's going to be fine."
ReplyDelete*shows up on Raw as color commentator the next day
OH TAG
ReplyDelete"And then Bret came to me, with tears in his eyes, and told me it was the greatest exaggeration he had ever heard".
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't surprise me if Hogan was bi for a bit.
ReplyDeleteI mean wasn't the 80s free love and all that jazz.
Almost had it. Needed more "brother" and "dude".
ReplyDeleteHogan is so incredible, he makes honest, senile mistakes even when he's lying.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure that what Hogan meant to lie about pimping Sting heading into Wrestlemania VI or V, but he's made up so many stories that his brain went to the story about putting over Terry Funk.
I knew Booty Man had to be an inside joke.
ReplyDeleteIf you had to build the perfect WWE wrestler, it would look like Sting. Put Sting in Warrior's place in 1990, and he becomes a mega star.
ReplyDelete"Paulie *never* lied to the fans. He lied to the wrestlers, but he never lied to the fans" - Tommy Dreamer
ReplyDeletelol... tell that to stan lane.
ReplyDeleteand jacked brah!
ReplyDeleteDisagree with you regarding the WCW bit. Hogan was smart enough to see Hogan vs Sting whether red & yellow vs colorful surfer Sting or Hollywood vs Crow was a money match, which is why they never actually fought till the end of 1997. They teamed up a bit the whole Luger/Sting vs Hogan/Macho was teased but never followed up on.
ReplyDeleteSting may have been shunted down the card but he was always protected in WCW after Hogan arrived. He wasn't jobbing, and had his own stories pretty much the whole time there.
Also the US title back then had value, it was equivalent of a money in the bank today.
Riiiiight...you wouldn't put him over clean ten years later when he was the hottest thing in the business, but you would've in 1987? Come on brother.
ReplyDelete"Look jack, Bret came up to me, with a HUGE scowl on his face, and told me to fuck myself because what I said was the greatest exaggeration he had ever heard, brother!"
ReplyDeleteI am sure that The Rock would be capable to do promos in a complete different way. but he chose what worked best at that time.
ReplyDeleteTime to take your meds, Hulkster...
ReplyDeleteNot enough pot in the world.*
ReplyDelete*The hypothesis I'M gonna test
Hogan knows he is full of shit. I cant believe ppl still get this mad at what he says. Same thing with nash. They just say shit to rile up the marks and it works every time.
ReplyDeleteAccurate chronological order is rarely high priority for wrestlers.
ReplyDeleteWasn't the Hogan/Metallica "story" that Hogan auditioned *before* they hit it big?
ReplyDeleteOne of my favorite Hogan lies has to be when he claims he was partying with John Belushi after Wrestlemania 2. Wrestlemania 2 = 1986. John Belushi's death = 1982.
ReplyDeleteJesus, someone actually liked the XFL enough to record those games? That crap made Arena Football look like the 2006 Patriots/Colts AFC title game.
ReplyDeleteAnd if I'm not mistaken, wasn't Brian Bosworth one of the commentators for the XFL? Even his godawful movies were better than those games (Lance Henriksen's great performance in "Stone Cold" notwithstanding).
Indulge me, please... Every time I read things like this, I make a wish. That wish is for Kayfabe Commentaries to do a YouShoot with Hogan. Right at the beginning a doctor administers an appropriate dose of sodium pentothal before Sean Oliver starts the interview. Then we just let the magic happen. Do we find out that Andre really weighed 390 and was only 6'9? Do were find out that he is totally guilt ridden and ashamed by everything his son ever did? I always wonder what the "unfiltered" truth from Hogan would be. Although I imagine the only truth that would not surprise anyone is the real "relationship" between Hulk and his daughter. I know Its a sick fascination to want to know what's "truth" to a person like him.
ReplyDeleteAssuming it could be done, what Hogan-truths/Hogan Stories the BoD would want to know about?
Agree for the most part but there's absolutely no justifying Hogan refusing to sell for Sting in late '97-early '98 yet being perfectly willing to sell for Jay Leno even though Leno brought zilch, nada, zero, nothing to the table.
ReplyDeleteIf Hulk isn't just making all this up, it's probably not a LIE so much as just his drug-daughter-chairshot-steroid-addled brain is confusing years and he's referring to 1988 or 89. Clash I def. cut into Wrestlemania IV and you know they were paying attention to it back in the day so it's not THAT far of a stretch. Hogan's lies are easy to spot...stuff like this is just microwave cookery...
ReplyDeleteNo wait...coping with impending senility.
Yeeeeaaaah but honestly, knowing Vince, there's just as much evidence to believe he would have called him THE SCORPION and gave him rubber claw pincers and tail, b/c let's face it...the man loves the smell of his own farts.
ReplyDeleteWell...him turning heel is probably a lie. You know he would have forced Sting to do it.
ReplyDeleteEither that's typical Hogan bullshit or he confused Jim with John, which would actually be understandable since Jim is basically John without John's charisma and comedic talent.
ReplyDeleteYou know what would be a brilliant idea? An RF Video Face-Off with Hulk Hogan and Verne Gagne sharing delusional, senile stories for three hours straight. Those two could come up with enough whoppers to put Burger King out of business.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I was being a little sarcastic. But come on, finding a truly honest person in the wrestling business is like trying to find a honest politician or an honest lawyer. Ain't gonna happen.
ReplyDeleteThe tree weighed more than Andre The Giant, King Kong Bundy and Big John Studd combined and when Hogan picked up that tree and slammed it to the ground en route to saving that woman from a burning house, the the bodyslam to the tree was so devastating that the nearby dam immediately exploded and the water from the dam flooded the streets, which resulted in Hogan swimming the woman, as well as Donald Trump, his wife and kids to safety.
ReplyDeleteAnd Hogan had to undergo his 57th back operation as a result of all this.
If Hogan meant after Wrestlemania VI, then I could believe this.
ReplyDeleteUh, excuse me, what about Chris Jericho, the LAST HONEST MAN?!
ReplyDelete"It's not a lie if YOU believe it." -- George Costanza
ReplyDeleteA stinky, rotten, wart-infested, no-good Giant exaggeration at that!
ReplyDeleteJust one correction -- they did Sting vs Hogan (a "dark-sided" HH) on an early episode of Nitro in 1995, I believe emanating from Chicago.
ReplyDeleteIs that like his lunch pants?
ReplyDeleteI still say that fateful night in December of 97 was the beginning of the end for WCW.
ReplyDelete... Paul E didn't lie to the fans because their PPVs and shows consisted of randopm matches booked on the fly. You can't lie to your fans about matches coming up if you don't announce them in advance.
ReplyDeleteHogan was better than Foley and Punk put together - he had ONE promo, and he managed to make millions with it... AND fend off Randy Savage, Piper and Dibiase at their peaks.
ReplyDeleteSadly. I am waiting for the following.
ReplyDelete- Hogan on Andre: Well he was you know 700, 800, 900 pounds at the times, brother. And I had no idea on what was going to happen in the match. The match wasn't planned, because Andre wouldn't work with me. He kept telling me not to worry. I remember it being like a third world country out there, with all the armed security. I was really afraid he'd kill me out there, brother. He almost did when he farted on me. Then he screamed and told me to SLAM. I tore out my back, ripped two of my tricep muscles. I blew out both knees, and lost all my hair.
- Hogan on Sting: I knew back in 1984 that he was going to be a big name. Shortly after Andre died at Wrestlemania III - I asked Vince to bring him in.
- Hogan on Shawn Michaels: Yeah, although I knew he was going to over sell to the point I started overselling - he upset me even though we agreed he could dog me after the match.
That's possible, since Jim Belushi was a "star" (in the loosest sense). This is the article that has that and plenty of other Hogan BS culled from other print and radio interviews:
ReplyDeletehttp://franticplanet.wordpress.com/2012/03/09/the-mad-lies-of-hulk-hogan/
The simplest thing to say... "oh for fuck's sake, Hulk."
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