So as noted, I got some cheap DVDs in the recent WWEShop sale, and I'm leaving it up to you, the reader, as to which one I should tackle first. They all look pretty good, actually. As usual, this is a non-binding poll and I reserve the right to ignore you like your name was Fuj.
I'd go Tag matches for Scott to review decent bouts, but I will vote Hogan matches to make him miserable. I'm expecting a horrible TNA review this week after the traumatizing experience as well!
I want the Hogan and tag team sets. Really, I'm interested in your thoughts on Hogan v Backlund. An underrated classic. The Piper one? Not much to work with.
The list of people who tapped out at WM: Backlund at 11, HHH at 20, HBK at 21, HHH at 22, HBK at 23, Edge at 24, Vince at 26, Batista at 26, HHH at 27, Jericho at 28, and Swagger at 29.
I was shocked when I went back and looked that it took me to 11 to find one. And if you want to get technical about it, Backlund was a verbal submission. The first tap out didn't happen until 20.
Roll up on Piper, lost to Yokozuna, lost to Owen and beat Yoko with another roll up, beat Backlund with a chicken wing, lost to HBK, beat Austin via ref stoppage and the only guy he ever beat with his finish is Vince at 26.
no. and shipping is usually about $6. which usually negates any discount in my book. one can find the same DVDs for (usually a bit cheaper) on eBay with free shipping.
What you're saying is that tap outs and submissions are different. But that's like saying a regular pinfall is different to one where the ref stomps his feet instead of using his hands, much like a cowboy referee would do.
I don't think it's semantics. Tapping out is a subset of all the possible forms of submission.
Winning a match with a Boston Crab is to say that that person won by submission. Winning a match by submissions is not to say that that person won by a Boston Crab.
Your argument would be that Tito Santana beat the Executioner via Boston Crab.
that was a Dusty finish. Rock used knucks on Shamrock then planted them in Shamrock's trunks. Ken got the pin, Rock motioned to the ref to check Ken's trunks, found the knucks, DQ
I think you guys don't understand what makes Scott Keith's reviews so good:
ReplyDeleteNegativity.
I'm shocked this one is $5.99, but the older Anthology one is still $10.99.
ReplyDeleteI'd go Tag matches for Scott to review decent bouts, but I will vote Hogan matches to make him miserable. I'm expecting a horrible TNA review this week after the traumatizing experience as well!
ReplyDeleteThe tag teams DVD is worth it just for the MX/Fantastics match.
ReplyDeleteI want the Hogan and tag team sets. Really, I'm interested in your thoughts on Hogan v Backlund. An underrated classic. The Piper one? Not much to work with.
ReplyDeleteThe whole thing is awesome. Also features a rare Duke Doherty appearance on commentary during the Demos v Bees match
ReplyDeletePiper if you're going to review the doc too.
ReplyDeleteIs this sale still going on? And how much is shipping?
ReplyDelete2/3 falls.. 3xDuke~!
ReplyDeleteLooking at the match listings I'm most interested in the Hogan set, lots of interesting stuff IMO. Backlund/Hogan sounds great as well.
ReplyDeleteTRIVIAJACK!~
ReplyDeleteWho hold the record for most times tapping out at Wrestlemania?
HHH?
ReplyDeleteCan't think of anyone with more.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that's quite brutal.
ReplyDeleteThe list of people who tapped out at WM: Backlund at 11, HHH at 20, HBK at 21, HHH at 22, HBK at 23, Edge at 24, Vince at 26, Batista at 26, HHH at 27, Jericho at 28, and Swagger at 29.
ReplyDeleteConsidering Bret's finish and the time he had in the company, you'd figure there'd be more.
ReplyDeleteI was shocked when I went back and looked that it took me to 11 to find one. And if you want to get technical about it, Backlund was a verbal submission. The first tap out didn't happen until 20.
ReplyDeleteWhen did tap outs even start? Isn't Taz in ECW kinda credited as starting tap outs in wrestling?
ReplyDeleteDoes Cena have the most submission victories?
ReplyDeleteYep with 3. Bret and Taker are tied with 2.
ReplyDelete2000 when Benoit, Angle, Taz, and Jericho all got started.
ReplyDeleteRoll up on Piper, lost to Yokozuna, lost to Owen and beat Yoko with another roll up, beat Backlund with a chicken wing, lost to HBK, beat Austin via ref stoppage and the only guy he ever beat with his finish is Vince at 26.
ReplyDeleteBret, Angle, and Benoit. You'd figure at least 4 or 5 between them.
ReplyDeleteDidn't Shamrock make Rock tap out? Or was that the match where the decision was reversed?
ReplyDeleteShamrock made him tap out but it was reversed because he is a crazy person.
ReplyDeleteAh ok I thought that was Royal Rumble.
ReplyDelete98. shamrock.
ReplyDeleteIn wrestling in general though wasn't Taz the first?
ReplyDeleteno. and shipping is usually about $6. which usually negates any discount in my book. one can find the same DVDs for (usually a bit cheaper) on eBay with free shipping.
ReplyDeleteid say so. 97.
ReplyDeleteForgot about him.
ReplyDeleteWCW guys were also using the tap outs a lot but they didn't promote like ECW did with Taz at that time.
ReplyDeletewe are both wrong.
ReplyDeletetaz 97 ecw
I know about Taz, I was talking just WWE.
ReplyDeleteCo-sign. Anarchy Rulz 2000 just popped up on Classics and it's a surprisingly great show.
ReplyDeleteTito Santana vs. Executioner, WrestleMania I.
ReplyDeleteAnd Rick Martel vs. Koko B. Ware at 6.
ReplyDeleteNot a tap out.
ReplyDeleteAlso not a tap out.
ReplyDeleteWikipedia fails me again! This is like the 37th time!
ReplyDeleteDidn't fail nothing. A tap out is a submission victory, but a submission victory is not necessarily a tap out!
ReplyDeleteI know but when I looked back at all the cards, I was counting both. Usually on wiki it says so and so defeated so and so via submission.
ReplyDeleteI didn't know this was a game of semantics.
ReplyDeleteI think you don't understand what a tap out is.
ReplyDeleteWhy do they have to air that shit 2 or 3 times a year though?
ReplyDeleteEven if the Allied Powers DVD was just matches with lex and bulldog, I would still select it over anything with Hogan or Piper.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean?
ReplyDeleteNo, it's a matter of semantics.
ReplyDeleteWhat you're saying is that tap outs and submissions are different. But that's like saying a regular pinfall is different to one where the ref stomps his feet instead of using his hands, much like a cowboy referee would do.
Maybe I just have cabin fever today.
RE-THREAD JACK!
ReplyDeleteBuy this DVD of the Brooklyn Brawler Domination: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQW37uJu3FI
Scott, how about a smark review of a youtube video? Have you ever done that?
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's semantics. Tapping out is a subset of all the possible forms of submission.
ReplyDeleteWinning a match with a Boston Crab is to say that that person won by submission. Winning a match by submissions is not to say that that person won by a Boston Crab.
Your argument would be that Tito Santana beat the Executioner via Boston Crab.
that was a Dusty finish. Rock used knucks on Shamrock then planted them in Shamrock's trunks. Ken got the pin, Rock motioned to the ref to check Ken's trunks, found the knucks, DQ
ReplyDeletePlus if we are playing semantics, you can win by submission and not tap out. Passing out and referee stoppage work with something like a sleeper hold.
ReplyDeleteMan, so Cena must be a better technical wrestler than Bret, I mean, Bret only won twice. And one of those times wasn't exactly clean. #BretLogic.
ReplyDeleteCORPORATE PROMOTIONJACK!~
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2013-04-08/10-greatest-crowd-chants/page-1
Can't really argue with #1.
Fuck yes. Scott hating on ECW is always perversely enjoyable for me, despite having been an ECW mark.
ReplyDeleteThe Piper doc is fun, but there's more to say with the Allied Powers one so i'd go with that.
ReplyDelete"You Suck!" should've been quite higher, but it's not a disaster at least.
ReplyDeleteTo paraphrase Warren Ellis: Holy shit, no!
ReplyDeleteMy God I would love a review of that!
ReplyDeleteScott I'm begging you, just this once listen to the fuj
ReplyDeleteI wanna see Scott's comments on some of the claims on Piper's set. He really seemed to being doing the interviews 80% kayfabe.
ReplyDeleteRemember when everyone was bugging Papa Smark to review the Hulkamania Collisium tapes? Yeah, that's where I voted, brother.
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